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Michael Pachter Interview -"Next Xbox might cost more than PS4" - Gamertag Radio

This week's episode of Gamertag Radio - Michael Pachter Interview:

*Playstation 4 Reaction
*Next Xbox might cost more than PS4
*Both next gen consoles launching the same day in Nov 2013?
*Nintendo Wii U
*Rumor: Next Xbox announcement in April

Interview starts at 34:25.

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vyralx4075d ago

So that means it will cost less than PS4

zeal0us4075d ago

Next Xbox might cost more than PS4
Next Xbox might less more than PS4

FFS where are the real analyst at? Jeez my 12yr nephew could told me this.

Cupid_Viper_34075d ago

Wait... did he say that they're trying to include a TV tuner in the next xbox?

That's kind of borderline in my opinion.

TopDudeMan4075d ago

Let's go for the unexpected option. Imagine it retailed for EXACTLY THE SAME price? Then everybody would be wrong.

user39158004075d ago

Michael Pachter = The Kardashians of gaming and the ghandi of superstitions.

Apex134075d ago

why does that surprise you?

the business model of making a loss on the box and profit on software is dead!!!

That-Guy4075d ago

Just look at that troll face of his in the video. And the Internet buys into it.

Nafon4075d ago

@Cupid:
A TV Tuner would get a lot more people using media center... i agree though. probably not going to happen. speaking of media center, hopefully they speed it up on the next xbox (if they include it at all). I have my xbox and pc wired with 100 mbps ethernet, and it is so laggy.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi4075d ago

If that's true MS has lost. I doubt it is though. MS isn't dumb enough to enter a battle with a more expensive, less powerful, suckier games line up console.

M_Prime4075d ago

@zeal0us that was hilarious man, and so true.

Oh_Yeah4075d ago

I'd like to see both launch same day and same price... That'd be a first for the industry and it'd allow people to pick based truly on specs and games, that's real competition right there.

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raWfodog4075d ago

I predict that Michael Pachter will soon make another useless prediction/analysis.

r214075d ago

Actually, his predictions are useful. We can predict the opposite of his prediction to be true XD

M_Prime4075d ago

How did he become so popular?

UnholyLight4074d ago

Not all of his predictions are wrong but yeah hahaha. How nuts would it be if both released on the same day? That would be anarchy x100000 especially if I am trying to grab both systems at the same time hahhah

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Link0794075d ago

It's just a games console people will not invest big money in buying one nextgen ?

Well balanced hardware that can keep up with the best is the way forward i think.

nosferatuzodd4074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

indeed and that guy is a silent troll he's fabricating shit to let the ps4 look bad check this out

The x86 CPU, incidentally, is a 64-bit, 8-core Jaguar CPU made by AMD, probably clocked at around 2GHz. Jaguar is the next step up after Bobcat, and is targeted at low-power (and low-cost) laptops. Jaguar is expected to be around 10% faster than Bobcat — and the core count is quite impressive, if developers can make use of them all —

Overall, the PS4′s CPU isn’t spectacular. but at the same time its no slouch its a good mid range CPU yo dig

madjedi4074d ago

@link "It's just a games console people will not invest big money in buying one nextgen ?"

Then why the hell would anyone spend $350 + tax for a wiiu + 2 or 3 games to play. How do you make that statement as a gamer.

"Well balanced hardware that can keep up with the best" If it's well balanced it isn't anywhere near the best, especially if we are talking about nintendo's hardware preferences.

Best is a $900+ dollar gpu or a $1000 cpu ect, not a low or mid range hardware, but this is the same guy expecting port of need for speed to match a high end pc version.

-Superman-4075d ago

He maybe right...
We know Microsoft will make Kinect 2, and it self cost a lot. So... there are 2 way Microsoft will sell console.

1)Xbox720(Kinect 2 built in) and console is weaker than PS4 = Same price as PS4

2)Xbox720(Kinect 2 built in) and console is strong or stronger than PS4 = higher price than PS4

If they built just Xbox720, and same strong as PS4, price could be same, but we know that Kinect 2 will be built in Xbox 720 which means cost alot, this means they put higher price in market, or same price and weaker console.

dcbronco4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

PS4 has a similar camera included. DDR5 is a lot more expensive than DDR3. Kinect 1 was never as expensive as people thought it would be. Next Xbox might be using a cheaper GPU which is a lot less. They may be using two of them but it still would be less than the one in the PS4. No One knows the price until we see the actual parts. But there are plenty of reasons to believe the Xbox will still cost less to manufacture.

Pachter did at least get it right when he said the new consoles wouldn't appear until 2013-14.

zebramocha4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

@dc gddr5 cost more ddr3 but no one knows to what extent and to compensate for ddr3 low bandwidth Ms had to add 32MB of esrsm and those move engines,this could make the cost for both systems similar. The ps4 camera is just two 720p camera duck taped together.

dcbronco4075d ago

@Zebra

True enough, but until we see the final parts we don't know. Overall I don't think Microsoft's goal is to save a ton of money. The 720 might be more expensive to produce. Though probably not by much. I think MSs goal is performance. And the differences in their design are based on things they've figured out.

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt4075d ago

DDR5 = Dance Dance revolution 5?

_-EDMIX-_4074d ago

Please. Sit down. MS can have Kinect built in and it can be the same price as PS4. I'm not sure why any of you are adding the price of Kinect as if MS gave you the "discounted" version and just took a loss on it. Its just a camera....

They priced it like that to get sales, period. Its nothing more then a fancy camera (if that).

Its like saying, the same company that made the iphone screen is making a screen for a GPS, "oh man its going to COST A LOT cause iphone cost a lot"

So....are we forgetting this is Apple? Are we forgetting that the SG3's screen is actually HD! Just cause a company sells something at a certain price, doesn't make it really "worth" that price, just to them. Its like saying PS4 will be 440 (cause I'm adding in the price of the eyetoy LMFAO)

Dasteru4074d ago

@zebramocha:

8GB of DDR3-1333 has a wholesale cost of about $30 right now.

8GB of GDDR5 is around $140.

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Mounce4075d ago

Microsoft basically knows that 360's Upper Hand this generation were 2 things....

1. They were out earlier so they had a year headstart to gain a strong ground.

2. It was cheaper than the PS3 so if anyone tried to decide based on pricetag and not Friendslist of Games, they went 360. Especially the arcade model.

I'd find it, even though I don't have much trust or faith in Microsoft as a company, that they'd be STUPID enough to fuck over their Price-advantage that people may have come to recognize for their console brand in a way..... If the tech isn't greater, than the price should most DEFINITELY be lower.

BOLO4075d ago

Don't forget #3. That RROD 54.2% failure rate boosted sales of the 360 drastically!

BOLO4075d ago

Don't forget #3. That RROD 54.2% failure rate boosted sales of the 360 drastically!

/watch?v=F3xBmENXX0Y&list =LLsOrvCJE8JCOz3XuvxhUC-w

Outside_ofthe_Box4075d ago

@vyralx

LOL! That was my first thought when I read the headline. The opposite of what Pachter says comes true.

showtimefolks4075d ago

both ps4 and next xbox will cost around the same price, i can't wait for E3 so all the hate on ps4 and xbox can die down. people are never happy so ms and sony shouldn't worry about the very small number of people who are impossible to please and cater towards us who actually like gaming

gaming journalist has gone down the gutter in last 2-4 years

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clrlite4075d ago

I might eat breakfast in a little while.... wait I might not eat breakfast in a little while.

Detoxx4075d ago

I FOUND CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT

Reverent4075d ago

Lol, I really wanna give you a bubble for "Helpful" but I'll give you one for "Funny" just because I assume that's what most people will give you also.

CapsLocke4075d ago

Wow,the guy got some skills.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos9d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197210d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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