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Opinions?: Xbox founder says he could kill “Xbox, Playstation, and Wii U” with Apple TV

Was forwarded an article by a long time reader about how one of the original Xbox founder stated that Apple TV gaming could just right out kill Xbox, Playstation, and Wii U.

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Gimmemorebubblez4081d ago

Stop talking b.s no one knows what the Ps4 or 720 have up their sleave.

LackTrue4K4081d ago

lol....with what?! Apple TV?! haha....
i have an iphone 5 and everything...but i have yet to buy anything off the istore.

TheGamerDood4081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

I love how people think 250 million active users all with credit cards is something to laugh at.

What did Gabe say recently, the real threat to their Steam box isn't Sony or MS, but Apple. And MS is so uneasy about a possible Apple console that they're shifting focus from the core to the casual market starting next gen. That what got them through the last decade won't be what gets them through the next. lol

joab7774080d ago

I dont laught at apple at all. But, it wont be as easy as he thinks. First off, appl tv has been out while and it isnt very popular because of sevices like ps3 and 360. Second, with the ps4, 720, steam box in varying forms, the ouya and many, many mobile devices, it will be hard to even get started. And dont laugh at the impact google and samsung have had on apple. It wouldnt be smart for them to go this route. It isnt a huge money maker and would be quite risky.

This may be the end if traditional consoles anyway so when are they gonna get started? U need exclusives etc. Yes, apple is powerful, but also smart enough to know that it wouldnt be worth it. Unless they were gonna make an extension of the apple market for TV. But that wouldnt hurt consoles anymore than moblie games already do. The proof will be in Sony's success. They are committed to big games and ppl still wanna play those at home.

rainslacker4080d ago

I think apple could certainly make a dent in the market, I just wonder at their long term viability in this regard. Apple, IMO, isn't the greatest of software developers, and their glory days are long over with Windows and Linux far surpassing OSX in both usability and customization. People who say otherwise still think Windows runs like it did in 3.1, which just isn't the case anymore.

Apple however could make a push to be what they are now, and that's a media focused machine that also offers games, perhaps through an app store, which could be beneficial for the indie market.

However, Apple isn't know, and has never been known, to push powerful hardware, and the home console market does do that, at least respective to it's own market.

However, given the features of Smart TV's and integrated media devices, it makes much more sense for them to just offer a store front and app(similar to PS Mobile) and not worry about the massive amounts of R&D and marketing required for a console to even get to market.

They have a good thing going with their smart phones and tablets, but that success doesn't necessarily equate to success in the console or TV market, as is shown with Apple TV.

I think if Apple truly wanted to breach that market, which is small compared to their current worth, they would be showing signs of interest already. We probably won't see them enter the market this upcoming gen, but maybe next gen when the entire landscape may change into something they are more comfortable with.

AngelicIceDiamond4080d ago

Well think of it this way, Apple can sell a whopping 700$ I pad and that thing will fly off store shelves. Just think if they get into the console buissness?

Apple's brand recognition is absolutely ridiculous. MS is struggling against Apple, Windows 8 and Surface are both struggling right now MS is losing money from it.

Part of the reason is because MS Surface is INSANELY overpriced, we're talking 1000$ overpriced, its freakin ridiculous. So people instead buy an Ipad that does virtually the same things the surface does just at a cheaper price.

If Apple gets in the gaming buissness and releases the Apple I console. They'll do great imo.

Psn8004080d ago

Why have an iPhone then ? Apple iPads are good for what it says on the tin but gaming NO !
I have a ipad 4 but gaming no way the consoles beat it hands down but for browsing and listening to music , watching movies and reading excellent ,
For gaming it is not good enough the console is head and shoulders way better .

T3MPL3TON 4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

TheGamerDood:250 million active users all with credit cards is something to laugh at.

Looks like they fooled another one. Don't believe any stats a company puts out unless they are putting out the full data. If they don't show the full data then it's a lie. Sony said they had 100 million users. They forgot to talk about all those single use accounts.

I'll give Apple their due, they have lots of mindless drones who buy up their trash. Thing is. Apple doesn't make video games. When they start then video game companies can start worrying, but the truth is even if they did they wont exist on a competitive market. The Apple console will cost hundreds more than what ever Sony, MicroSoft or Nintendo have out.

MikeMyers4080d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft are apparently also trying to make things seem similar across various platforms. So if your in Sony's world that operating system may be familiar on a smartphone, Vita or PS4 and perhaps even the computer and tablets. Microsoft is doing the same with the Surface, Windows X and the upcoming Xbox.

That is one key area Apple has over Android, a universal operating system that is familiar with all of their customers. It's something Sony and Microsoft will also strive for. Valve and Steam are doing the same.

xursz4080d ago

Lmao everyone already forgot about the Pippin.

Mounce4079d ago

This Xbox founder guy speaks with confidence and arrogance...

He's allowed to, because he knows Apples market base are at majority, nothing but Sheep that will buy their overpriced products no matter what. They remind me of what Sony was like in 2005-2006 where they thought everyone would go "SHUTUP AND TAKE MY $599 US DOLLARS!" Only to find out that when customers hit the fine line? Their loyalty goes out the window due to the slap to the face that a company thinks they'll always 'Do' something, and expect exaggerated profits.

Apple needs to learn a lesson in god-complexity, or more or less this one guy for the time being.

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showtimefolks4080d ago

yeh and if its anything like a app store kind of a deal than we would jail break the device and use it for free

apple execs: i would love to see you get involved in gaming business, this isn't apple fanboys where you can release a minor updated device and still charge $599

and no we don't want the .99 cents game to replace our actual games like zelda,halo,uncharted,half life etc,

jmc88884080d ago

Don't forget that the guy that created, then rebuilt the company is dead, and the people that have control now are breaking the rules he set.

People may not remember but Apple II computers were the bomb, I was born into a house with one, and learned to use it myself at 4.

Less then a decade later Apple was near dead. Overpriced, underspec'ed, and living off it's name. Sound familiar?

Apple spends more time trading it's cash in the stock markets then creating new products worthy of purchase and competitively pricing it. They're entire stock price is based off charging a perma-premium and forever being the 'in product'.

This is where Gabe is wrong. He expects Apple to continue screwing over it's customers by putting out expensive crap and getting away with it.

Just like in the past people will get tired of it and put their money with companies that do provide value, and next time Apple has no Steve Jobs to go back to.

Status is fleeting. One minute you're hot, the next, yesterday news.

Gabe fears Apple's money, but that too could evaporate overnight with a stock market crash..and no, nothing has been fixed since the greatest depression mankind has ever experienced started five years ago (and we're still in the beginning stages).

While Gabe is no doubt a smart man, he too can be wrong, just like Steve Jobs was with the Macintosh.

Thatguy-3104079d ago

Is apple TV even relevant? Consoles aren't going no where until the manufacturers say so. Nothing can replace the same experience that console games provide.

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animegamingnerd4081d ago

i seriously doubt the apple tv will even make a dent on either of them

BanBrother4080d ago

He really doesn't like Xbox. From what I heard he was screwed over pretty bad by the now current CEO.

OT: Who knows. Casuals are pretty retarded and will eat that $hit up, so long as it has that cute little fu**ing apple symbol that they can show everyone.

RuleofOne343 4080d ago (Edited 4080d ago )

So 12 years later is when he starts to bitch or on the verge of new console . becoming obvious someone feels left out or has no life.

Either way he needs to STHU.

BanBrother4080d ago

@wiwwicky343

Oh I agree, he just wants the attention. I was just teying to point out that this is another disgruntled former employee of MS lol. He mad, and he starts siding with Apple? Lol.

The sooner Apple dies, the better. The only thing their tablets are good at is high resolution photos and videos lol. But, they can charge what they want, as that little apple symbol makes male and female alike blush for some reason. Like a sexual stimulant. Who knows?

NastyLeftHook04081d ago (Edited 4081d ago )

so he is basically saying microsoft cannot kill the playstation with the xbox. he needs apple. lol

classic2004081d ago

Apple pippin already died from the original playstation, since then apple stayed away from console.

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Top 3 Things Xbox Needs to Regain Lost Ground

The biggest complaint most gamers have had with Xbox, also including times before the Xbox One, was its lack of exclusives in comparison to Nintendo and Sony. This is something that has become more and more of a problem over the continued lifespan of the Xbox One.

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Razzer2531d ago (Edited 2531d ago )

2017 is the year of new IP on Xbox One? Sea of thieves and what else?

Xbox One is cheaper than PS4? Depends on the region, I guess. Still same $299 base price in the US for both.

Either way, the lost ground is just lost. MS would have to do some extreme stuff to top PS4. None of the stuff mentioned in the piece is enough.

Neonridr2530d ago

pretty sure the article talks about regaining lost ground (ie closing the gap), not surpassing the PS4.

Razzer2530d ago (Edited 2530d ago )

Equally daunting task that would require Xbox domination for months and months. As I said, it would require extreme measures and nothing mentioned in the article would suffice.

Neonridr2530d ago

pretty sure more exclusives would definitely help. I mean it wouldn't hurt.

Razzer2530d ago

Yeah...definitely would help.

Kingthrash3602530d ago

No way will it ever catch ps4. It's far too late. Gotta wait until next gen, and if they don't start pumping out new ips the next gen is a loss as well

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SegaGamer2530d ago

What is the point of articles like this ? i see them everyday on here. Microsoft can't realistically do anything now to gain ground on Sony, it's just not going to happen no matter how much they try. The Playstation brand is just too big, it's been this way since the PS1.

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Do Gamers Really Care About Achievements

The majority of gamers adjust their playstyle with unlocking achievements in mind, however there were some gamers who purely played for the fun of the game and were not too worried about adding to their gamerscore. To some though it is a matter of course, playing a new game involves firstly checking what achievements are available to unlock and then setting the difficulty to the hardest setting

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ElementX3332d ago (Edited 3332d ago )

Yet another article? These were old years ago. I like achievements and now that Steam has achievements I find myself avoiding games without them. They are so common that I think games without them have corners being cut. Do I unlock every one? No, not even close. I've also never gotten a platinum on PS3 or PS4. Achievements/trophies are just satisfying to unlock. I don't go hunting for every one. Things I won't do for achievements: find every item, clear out every area, go off every ramp/jump, MP achievements, or anything involving completing every challenge. I am not going to play a game past it's finish just to get achievements however getting them while going through a campaign is a nice bonus.

LonDonE3332d ago

Agreed and dude seriously play through the walking dead season 1 by telltale games and u r garunteed a host of trophies and ur first ever platinum!

Seriously all u gotta do is finish it, no special conditions etc its gotta be the easiest platinum.
That way u will have atleast one lol, i know like me u dont care, but may aswell grab it!

StrayaKNT3332d ago

lol ofcorse people care about achievements who even writes this stuff.

Stiffler3332d ago

Many do care (myself included) but there are always the casual gamers and the regular gamers that only care about playing with their mates online. I think more people do care about them than not but I base that on no facts at all, just assumptions :P

TheNinjaTurkle3332d ago

Not everyone cares. As you will read.
Good to see peoples views on this.

rainslacker3332d ago (Edited 3332d ago )

I take issue with the description where it says "most gamers". I think that's a bit of hyperbole and exagerration. It's impossible to quantify, but I'd wager that the vast majority of gamer's don't care one iota about getting trophies or achievements, and it's usually just for those that want to be able to compete against others in some way...or use it as some sort of status card.

I personally don't really care about them...but my OCD makes me try to get 100% completion for games I enjoy...or am very close to getting 100% on. For initial play through though, I usually just play normally. In the past, once the game was done, I'd move on without doing all that extra stuff. now i'll go through and try and clean up...so to speak. I remember getting a plat for Murdered:Soul Suspects on my first play through without even trying....did it in about 7 hours in one sitting as I recall.:)

i think the only thing that it changed in my playing habits is I now do try to do all that extra stuff in my initial play through, but that's because it just is something that the devs put an effort into to put into their game, so I've come to appreciate them by going through clean up while getting plats.

I will admit I did play The Walking Dead on three different PS platforms for three easy plats...but probably would have played it twice anyways to see how the different decisions played out(mostly inconsequential as it turns out). Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered, and since I didn't have to pay for 1 of the versions, it worked out good.

jambola3332d ago

You clearly do care about trophies, i think anyone can see that

Metallox3332d ago

"I take issue with the description where it says "most gamers". I think that's a bit of hyperbole and exagerration."

No, that's a mistake. As you say, it's hard to quantify, it's not impossible though. So much opinion for zero references to sustain the whole article.

OT though... I don't care about achievements, Nintendo consoles don't have them, never bothered to get them on 360 and neither now that they are available on Steam.

rainslacker3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

@jam

I like going for them in games I enjoy, but if I don't, then no biggie. Maybe saying I don't care was the wrong terminology. More like they don't consume my game playing habits.

@Metallox

It's not impossible no. One could go and do surveys or poll user's trophies or whatever. I based my assumption on the fact that in most games I've seen the trophy percentages for trophies that lie outside the main game(all that side stuff that people do to get achievements) all tend to be in the teens percentages unless it's something that just comes naturally with the main game.

I do agree though, I have just as much fun with some Nintendo games on the Wii U or 3DS without thinking about them. also play plenty of retro games without giving them a thought.

EvilWay3332d ago

I love achievements. It adds replay ability to some games because I can go back get the achievements I try to get as many as I can in a game as long as they aren't insanely difficult than I won't even bother

Joda3332d ago

Xbl, and psn yes, steam,origin, or uplay .....no.

Fro_xoxo3332d ago

I don't care about it. It feels like a chore..

"go here, do this" .. nawh Why don't you leave it to my imagination? I turned off achievement notification. Best decision I ever made.

Have to keep games in check for what it is, fun.

jambola3332d ago

"go here, do this"
isn't that what games do in general?

Fro_xoxo3332d ago

I could have used a better example ehehe.~

"kill three mutants whilst hanging off tree"..

"complete the intro"

lol

Joda3332d ago

Xbl is better if u don't like hunting because it's numeric, beat the game and that's it whatever points u get is what u get, but on psn on the other hand it's not numeric, if u want that coveted platinum you have to get every single damn bronze, silver, and gold trophy, imagine being at 99% completion of a game and having one stupid impossible bronze trophy standing in your way,

compare trophies with other players and you'll see a lot of them in that situation. Funny, probably why so many of them sony fanboys are so bitter, forced to play a game you're sick go to get a little blue cyber trophy. A flawed system, although infamous 1, mafia 2, and crysis1,2,3 were fun as hell platinuming.

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Xbox One: Is a Price Cut Really Happening?

Xbox One sales aren’t struggling, but one retailer decided to cut the system’s price. Could this cut signal the beginning of more price cuts globally?

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Excalibur3740d ago (Edited 3740d ago )

My understanding is that retailer is going out of business, dunno if it is true or not as I live in the U.S.

Mikelarry3740d ago

they have been " going out of business" for a while now, but down here in the UK only zavvi is offering that deal

donnieboy3740d ago

Id be seriously pissed, I spent $500 straight for this thing...

Mikelarry3740d ago

lol you do know that price cut happen with every product or service, you chose to buy it at that price a gamble you took just enjoy your console.

donnieboy3740d ago

Not a couples months after release tho...

Gekko363739d ago

@donnieboy -

Use the word "Piss't" as in "Piss't Off" or "Pretty Piss't" (as Americans say) because "Pissed" means Drunk! lol

On Topic: I agree with you completely, this reminds me of when the original Xbox came out and I bought it the same day, then a few months later Sony dropped the price of the PS2 by £100 and so Microsoft had to drop the price of the Xbox by the same.

Though I fount out through OXM that If I posted proof that I bought my Xbox before the price drop, then I'd get £150 worth of games and an extra controller, which I did.

If something similar happened with X1, which I seriously doubt mind, then I would expect Microsoft would do the same.

Thought I'm sure the f@ck W!ts on here would spin this into a negative though

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vgcgames3739d ago

Judging by their new marketing plan I'd say one is coming down the pipes.

Jdoki3739d ago

Could be a number of reasons.

Maybe they just want to try and capture sales as we come up to the 1st payday of the new year.

Maybe it's because we are coming up to the end of the financial year. If Zavvi overstocked on the XB1 expecting higher demand, they may be looking to offload some of them to help improve the balance sheet. If I recall Zavvi were in a bit of trouble a few years back when they took over Virgin megastores and had to sell them off. I think Zavvi were then bought by The Hut group, so maybe they need to improve liquidity.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a sign MS are dropping the price any time soon.

deepio3739d ago

Why would they need a price cut? It's selling better than the 360 did and how long did it take for that price of that to drop! Zavvi is dying, it needs sales, that is all this is.

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