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Kotaku: We Know All About The Next Xbox, From Someone Who Says They’ve Got One

The next-generation Xbox—the one that will follow the still-popular Xbox 360—will run multiple games at once, require game installations, and will only work when a much-improved version of the popular but divisive Kinect sensor array is plugged in, according to a source who says he has access to development hardware.

PtRoLLFacE4089d ago

mandatory installs i saw that coming! but kinect always watching me, um no ty!

blackmamba7074089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

I always wanted to be a star in big brother show, thanks MS t_t

aCasualGamer4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Player trying to play the new xbox 720:

Press on: "Please connect the Kinect camera. We need to verify you are the owner."

Player then tries to play game: "Please connect to internet so we know where you are... and verify you are the owner."

Player then tries to play online: "Please pay 50$ for a Live subscription."

Player then tries to play online: "Please pay 50$ for you have a second hand copy of this game."

So, how are Microsoft going to market this again?

delboy4089d ago

WTF, paranoid Americans

Ashlen4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

The good news, the next Xbox requires a dna scan to make sure your not playing used games. The bad news, it needs a sample of the tissue inside your anus.

patterson4089d ago

"1984" is already here, it's called Facebook... and how everything is integrated with it ;)

zeee4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

To be honest, these rumors are getting wayyyy out of control. I am getting sick and tired of these rumors about both PS4 or Orbis and Xbox 720, Next, 8, 3 or whatever the heck they'll call it.

I can't wait for Feb 20. I am dead sure that SONY won't disclose all the technical details regarding the ram, processor. Maybe some but not all but that'll at least put PS4 rumors to rest for a while.

And I wish that M$ would come out and announce something too.

Some of these rumors are just too crazy. I don't even want to think about any console manufacturer asking us to "stay online" to play games and to keep certain accessories plugged in for a game to work. These types of decisions are going to destroy PS4/720 and even the whole console gaming experience. And I think people at SONY and Microsoft are smart enough to know this and probably laugh their asses off when they read all these rumors circulating online.

SilentNegotiator4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

@delboy

On what grounds are you assuming that he is American? Their profile doesn't say it and Big Brother plays in more than one region.

Do you just assume that everyone with a different view than you is a 'dirty American'?

dcbronco4089d ago

Orwell thought the government would watch everything you do. Zuckerberg realized if you gave people a space on-line they would tell you everything on their own.

1 point Zuckerberg.

DragonKnight4089d ago

Kraptaku voted down. They know nothing about anything.

morganfell4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Seriously Kotaku? Your source is SuperDae?

And to note, SuperDae is from Korea.

As someone remarked below, "He had a Durango for sale on Ebay"

...and that is precisely the issue. It wasn't a Durango.

If you know anything about game development for any of the big three then you would understand the tightly controlled nature of a dev kit. You would understand the restrictive and illegal nature of allowing unauthorized access to a kit not to mention selling one. He still has his account on Ebay.

Do you actually believe MS would allow a real Durango dev kit to be sold to the public? His account would have been suspended and he would have been prosecuted 100 different ways to Tuesday. All Kotaku has accomplished is making themselves more of a butt in journalism than they were yesterday. The people at Gaf are having a field day.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

konnerbllb4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

@morganfell Not that I believe it but it's possible he just rebuilt a dev kit. The dev kits are in fact pc components that anyone can purchase right now sans the kinect, which I don't believe was included.

The part where it gets tricky is how he said development software was included. He claimed his first auction never went through do to copyright claims by MS.

Anyway a developer or someone who knows a developer could be quite sneaky by listing a durango kit that was built off parts from newegg and then including a C++ app.

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NewMonday4088d ago

"We Know All About The Next Xbox, From Someone Who Says They’ve Got One"

what a joke

reminds me of the"second hand news" sketch with Seth Meyers on SNL

subtenko4088d ago

Makes me happy to see people with common sense in the comments, everyone except @delboy. It's a known fact M$ makes you pay to play online, how is that paranoid? It's be speculated that M$ wont allow second hand copys of gaming on your console. It's not paranoid, its possibility. Look of the definition of the word possibility...

Anarki4088d ago

A source who has one? cool, me too... I have one also, the specs are quite shit. Now, who wants an interview?!

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user39158004089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Kinnect me please... He did have the dev kit on ebay, but that was the 1st version, as stated per EA they have the third veriosn of it and most likely receive another for final dev and tool adding for easier compatability.

Dissapointed over rumour, article did not describe any new tricks ie. your dog will be kinect connected to your nipples, just pull tail for continues bite.

The rumour failed.

sobekflakmonkey4088d ago

I didn't really understand most of your comment, but I did get "The rumour failed" I agree.

Saigon4089d ago

Took me a while to realize the impact of that. I initially thought it was cool, but then again, it could be a nuance after a while. Other than that, the material posted is almost what we have heard from other rumor reports. Now I want to see this device in action!!!

SilentNegotiator4089d ago

Oh look, another "insider sources" article.

yawn

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4089d ago

Just saying silentnegotiator, but the real yawn is a person that comes into said article, just to write that they're bored of seeing/reading said article.

Next Gen is upon us, and people are excited for any kind of info about the new consoles. Even rumor news. It's just fun rumors. And I see that you've already used 2 of your bubbles in an article you don't care for.

Yawn. ;) :P

SilentNegotiator4088d ago

Nope, the real yawn is the hottest stories column filling up with made up crap.

deno4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Last thing I need is janet reno or janet napaletano or whatever watching me.

delboy4088d ago

@SilentNegotiator

Last time I checked MS was a American company.
My reply was about the company and I'm right when I say that America is paranoid, according to America everyone is a terrorist.
Now go and disagree with me, and maybe I'll go BOOM.

Psn8004088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

This is so wrong watching you on camera are they involved in a goverment conspiracy .
Who knows nowadays , there coming to take you away lol ?

Gamer19824088d ago

Nothing positive really coming out with these xbox rumours unlike playstation rumours where it seems all positive minus the trade in rumour which people are only guessing because of the patent. No rumour leak has actually said they are going to block them.

If Xbox comes with mandatory Kinect I think it could spell the end for MS consoles.. Kinect sold well at launch as poeple thought it could be used for hardcore gaming. This I think in turn has give MS the wrong idea and gamers wont be fooled again.

nirwanda4088d ago

20 odd million bought a kinect including me, MS has shot themselves in the foot by downgrading it at the last minute when they took the processors out of it which i bet made a difference to the accuracy.
I don't like the sound of alot of MS's multi tasking either, if i want to play a game i want to focus on that and all this stuff sounds like they will end up with another windows vista

IAmLee4088d ago

Kotaku: We make up bullshit so our site gets hits.

j4re4088d ago

And isn't the PS4 supposed to ship with an updated PlayStation Eye? What exactly do you think that will be doing? Asshats...

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bunt-custardly4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

"We know all about the next Xbox".

Umm no you don't you think you do, but you don't.

Ok let's test you, what's the final name of it then?

How will it output 1080p 3D content beyond 24hz via HDMI 1.4a?

Will Xbox Live become a free integrated service?

Munky4089d ago

Your last questions is probably the most important one. If would a huge benefit to MS if they were to make this happen.

HammadTheBeast4089d ago

I don't know, they make most of their profit from XBL Gold memberships.

Ju4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Rhetorical question or sarcasm, huh? This will never happen. It would even be more likely you'll get the console free on "contract".

NegativeCreepWA4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

Never going to happen as long as MS is handling all the match making servers(with the exception of EA games). They may not be dedicated, but it still cost a lot of money to handle hundreds of online games, without the Live fee MS would have to shut games down and indie devs wouldn't be able to afford online play in their titles. A lot of people don't seem to realize this, but on other consoles or steam, devs and publishers are renting servers out of their own pocket. It's the only reason I don't complain about paying. And they make too much profit from it of course.

kneon4089d ago

HDMI 1.4 supports 1080p at 60fps, which is enough for 1080p 3D at 30FPS.

Besides the new consoles will likely have the latest HDMI spec which is supposedly coming this year.

bunt-custardly4089d ago

erm yeh at 24hz. Have you tried playing a 3D game at 1080p 60fps @ 24hz. Unplayable. This is a limitation of HDMI 1.4

FriedGoat4089d ago

You can have 1080p @60hz per eye in checkerboard format over HDMI, I know because I use it.

kneon4089d ago

@bunt-custardly

60fps @ 24hz makes no sense whatsoever. Besides that is not the limit of HDMI 1.4. HDMI 1.4 can support 4K at 24fps, but at 1080p it's up to 60fps.

If you need proof just go buy yourself a PS3 or 3D bluray player and some 3D movies.

zebramocha4089d ago

@prcko I'm confused by your comment,are you saying that kinect being mandatory is a good thing for Sony?

TheGamerDood4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

he's saying it's going to put off a lot of people and as a result they'll jump ship over to Sony's camp.

F'd up if true.

"Perhaps most importantly, this isn't an optional accessory. It's mandatory. Not only does a Kinect ship with every console, but it must be plugged in and calibrated for the console to even function."

MS where do you get the balls to do this kind of thing, just imagine if Sony made Move mandatory in order to be able to use the PS4. GTFO

ApolloTheBoss4089d ago

People who are disagreeing don't get the joke.

gunnerforlife4089d ago

i didnt understand the comment at first :')

Cocozero4089d ago

Wow Kinect 2 seems like a massive upgrade, from VGA to 1080p and it can track 6 people at once.

Multitasking games sounds awesome too, the 720 will be a beast.

Wikkid6664089d ago

Kinect 1 was never really the issue. The problem was the USB inputs on the original 360s. The ports couldn't support enough throughput.

Ripsta7th4089d ago

By looking at the dissagress Sony fanboys arent happy about this Version of kinect being beefd up, they dont even know how it will function!! Im pretty sure it will be beast tho, and we know sony will offer something similar

AngelicIceDiamond4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

I dunno I'm 50/50. Kinect is a must to play Durango games yeah that's not good. Mandatory installs I saw that coming I don't care as long as its super fast and it doens't make me wait this time around.

Being able to switch between multiple games at once while already in a current game session sounds cool.

Its Kotaku anyway I don't go by their sources usually. I don't know, feel like I need a coffee break these rumors. I'll stand by my word. I'll only go by what MS announces and nobody else at this time.

People need to understand its just too many rumors flying around allll over the web its hard to even speculate on one.

knifefight4089d ago

Kotaku, take a look at how real investigative journalism (or rumor mongering) is done!
http://n4g.com/news/1171651...

Qrphe4089d ago

Agreed!
1080p camera sounds awesome (specially if the 720p EyeToy3 rumor is true). The Kinect 360 is really disappointing as a gaming device, but this new Kinect 2 sounds like a pretty good tool to finally be exploited the right way.

Ju4089d ago (Edited 4089d ago )

It sounds intriguing. Nice specs, I must admit. But I am with AngelicIceDiamond. It seems a little bit forced. I know why they do it: to gain major support. You can only do that if you can guarantee everyone has one.

I didn't like Kinect in the first place. As an add-on, yes, but mandatory? Full Kinect games are not my thing, and where it "adds" features, again, those seem to be forced, or gimmicky. This will now force every developer to come up with at least some feature to justify Kinect is "supported" by the game, no matter how stupid it will be.

The installing is transparent, so I wouldn't be worried about that...but if I'd want to "waste" HDD space, I rather buy the game online anyway. If I'm gonna go buy a disk I'd rather not fill up my HDD. I have a 500GB in my PS3, and guess what, it's full...did never imagine that would happen so fast. But like I said, the only reason I like that is because of the convenience that I don't have to get up and find the game disk...at the same time, one MassEffect DL is 12GB...takes a night.

I am curious how this thing runs. It looks like a nice box. But I fear MS is overloading this thing a little. Consoles were supposed to be lean and mean. Not bloated. I can build me a media center for that.

But specs wise it will be a tight race. We'll see. I'm more a PS guy, and if Sony will be up to the task I'd still go with that. Both will be freaking fast, so it'll be a tougher decision this time.

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BanBrother4089d ago

Sounds like an awful slogan for a Kinect Gears of War lol. I'd copyright that ASAP btw, if Microsoft haven't already lol.

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Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke1927m ago(Edited 24m ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf1h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave2h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor22m ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke1926m ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai2h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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