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Backwards Compatibility Is A Must For Next-gen

With the next generation of consoles now in our glimmering horizon, we turn to examine the future of gaming as we know it. But while future software and hardware sounds enticing, support of the past will be of equal importance. Backwards compatibility will be essential for the next line of game hardware, and here’s why.

Knight_Crawler4098d ago

TBH this just a bunch of bolony...how many of you still play your Xbox 1 games or PS2 games?

This is just gamers nip picking and moaning about something.

Dark_Overlord4098d ago

I do, hell I even get the Atari out on occasion. I paid for a BC PS3 when they launched, when it YLOD (Then eventually died) Sony wouldn't replace it with another BC one, despite wanting £130.

Myself, I'd love BC to be included :) If its not, oh well I'll still get one.

Conzul4098d ago

I wish there was a Playstation that BC'd all the way back. I'd get it if it were $1000 even.

So worth it to a zealot like me <3

MikeMyers4098d ago

As long as the content I buy through my online accounts are accessible on the new hardware without having to pay a premium, I'm fine with that. It would be nice to play my old disc games too but it's not a must have imo.

Muerte24944098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

backwards compatibility is needed in the early stages until the platform's library can stand on it's own feet. Once people have more, good, next-gen genres to play then I don't think "most" people would really think mind if it fazed out. For early adopters, I say to find someone who does re-balling and get that done to your launch system. People complained about the original model's price but it paid off in this case. They keep BC because emotion engine was built in. They don't have to buy "select" ps2 remasters and they are getting that money back in the long term.

ProjectVulcan4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

I'll say it time and again, if it really is that big a deal for you, you should keep the original machine you played them on- because it is the best machine for the job....What if it breaks later you might say? It'll be easy to get another even in 10 years. How easy is it to buy a SNES or Megadrive over 15 years since they died? Very, and they didn't even sell nearly as well as PS3/X360.

It just isn't a critical feature of a new console.

Fact is, the vast majority of PS3s sold ARE NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH PS2 games.

Thats right, 80+ percent of you who bought a PS3 knew full well it couldn't play your original boxed PS2 games. Did that fact hurt the machine's sales crushingly?

No it didn't. So if backwards compatibility costs so much to execute that it takes something away from the new consoles or increases their cost significantly, it shouldn't happen.

In Sony's case, it is likely to push up the cost of their new machine significantly. They chose to go with an unconventional CPU, which cannot be emulated in software well. Which means it would have to be included as hardware and add complexity and expense.

If you can find a way to add BC without increasing the cost of the machine, then go nuts. But if it pushes up the cost for everyone, then you should just remember that your PS3 probably doesn't play boxed PS2 games either.

trenso14098d ago

@conzul you know backwards compatible playstations play all playstation games ps2 and ps1 I was able to play dragon all gt final bout on the ps3 which is a ps1 game and KH2 which is a ps2 game

nukeitall4098d ago

There are a few games I love to play from the previous generation.

For instance, I still fire up Ninja Gaiden Black every now and then for some Itagaki classic!

I also love the BC on the Wii, so for me BC is important. that is the one thing I'm envyous of PC gamers.

guitarded774098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

BC HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED::

Backward compatibility is more important now than EVER...

This gen has taken competitive MP to the forefront of gaming, and people will still want to play these games.

Some say "Just keep your PS3/360"... and I say "NO". I have HDMI splitters already hooked up so I can have all my machines run. I can't keep plugging things into MORE power strips making it a fire hazard.

BC is most important at the beginning of a generation when new-gen titles are fewer, and people are still playing games from the huge catalog of the previous generation.

I don't know if BC would be hardware based or software based, but Sony and MS know the importance of BC.

knowyourstuff4098d ago

Hey, if we're all willing to shell out more money for HD PS2 and Xbox collections, Sony will more than likely continue that business model for PS4, anything to pay off the mountain of debt they're incurring paying off the PS3 AND PS4 R&D and manufacturing costs.

BC is still a good thing though, but whiney gamers will cry that the cost will go up at launch, like they always do.

Every other console that plays PC games that's going to come out, like Razor, and the one Valve is behind, they're going to be $1000 and $1100, and not a single PC gamer whined about it. Grow up you little kids.

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cemelc4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Id like to play my uncharted/infamous/killzone games again without having to pay again for a game i own.

It is a big deal for me.

Jackobinen4098d ago

Then play them on the Playstation 3 that you already own FFS...! You don't have to sell your previous console just because you buy the successor.

Pillsbury14098d ago

What Jacko said. I still have my ps2 and ps1, I still have my psp along my ps vita. I have a retro duo for when I want to play snes/ NES games. You already have backwards compatibility capabilities, it's called your current system.

the worst4098d ago

Knight_Crawler i agree 70% with you
i dont care Backwards Compatibility retail games
but i would like to play some of my psn games on my ps4

solid_warlord4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

If u spent £200 last 12months or more on games, you'd want to be able to play them againe.

BC is an advantage as it will give you back catalogue of many great games this gen. Sure, in 3 years down the road of next gen. BC will slowly become irrlevant. However, theres always great games you wanna be able to play from previous gen. This Gen we had some great games. Hell, i still play Timesplitters 2 on my 60gb PS3. That game is awesome, better than most multiplayer shooters this gen by a long shot.

One thing i do not want is have a last gen console sitting along side next gen console. Dont have the room & space to fill my entertainment hub. All HDMI's in my TV is being used up. Space is cramped. So it would have to get replaced. I would like it to be BC on launch.

Next gen, i rekon XBOX Next will have an advantage in this option. For 3 years the next Xbox will be BC until a price cut and a revision of hardware without BC is released.

Tzuno4098d ago

Well i just throw my old games then? they are not for sale because there are really good games that's worth having. And i don't need 100 consoles to play the same games that were released on the same brand.

Derekvinyard134098d ago

are you serious dude? what is wrong with people? backwards compatibility was pretty much mandatory on all systems prior to the new ps3 slim but what happened??? they found a way to make money off it and exploited it. u can thank this gen for destroying something that use to be standard. its only gonna get worse...... i only own a ps3 so i don't know what Xbox 360 has in terms of bc but im pretty sure some Xbox games can be played on it.

ShaunCameron4098d ago

Backwards compatibility became too expensive for Sony to keep around. That's why they got rid of it upon making the Slim models and dropping the price.

NastyLeftHook04098d ago

I know what is going on, the ps3 classics are on psn because of backwards compatibility. I expect ps3 games to be on the ps4 psn. Its a smart thing sony is doing making revenue.

But at the same time, people don't buy chevy corvettes to go 60mph max. There intentions are going faster, the same theology applies to consoles.

dorron4098d ago

If noone cared for Backward Compatibility why would Sony release HD Collections?

Obviously people still want to play PS2 games...and Sony is trying to take advantage of it.

BC should be in PS4, but most probably won't.

LinLeigh4098d ago

The fact that PSN sells PS1 and PS2 games kinda disproves your argument. Because it clearly shows there is a market for it.

MelonSaurus4098d ago

As i iterated in the article, the market is not wholesome enough to be a suitable substitute for BC support. It lacks so many games from the PS2 and PS1.

ALLWRONG4098d ago

I still play Xbox games because I can and the 360 supports it. Also there are a few games you can't play anywhere else. Nintendo and MS have a pretty good track record for supporting BC. Sony doesn't, they like to drop BC so they can re-sell you games you already own, with little or no improvements.

Tdmd4098d ago

If you take a look at how popular the hd remastered trend is, you will find out that a lot of people still care for the old gen games.

And considering that this gen games won't be needing an hd makeover for the next gen, backwards compatibility will be more important than ever. Not a deal breaker for sure, but it wouldn't be just a gimmick either.

user39158004098d ago

I revisit some good old gaming, nothing wrong with it. Backwards comparability with pS4? I doubt it, unless they can come up with a chip that can emulate the cell for the new 8 core cpu it wont happened, as a matter of fact cell structure its too diferent to the CPU they are getting from AMD. Too much money will be for compatability with PS4, money Sony dont have, integreted with PR and distribution its something they cant do at the moment. I think Sony realised what a mess the cell was from a developers point and want to satisfy them with the change on CPU. 720 its on a better position to have compatibility a breeze cause all their procesing has been on par with PC technology, the reason why has always been better to develop for them. I hope Sony could do backwards, but it wont happened, MS I believe they will support BC right out of the gates, if not for those 2 chips scalables that they are planning to integrate, it wont matter with me, I will have both, but MS its in a better position.

I_am_Batman4098d ago

"I hope Sony could do backwards, but it wont happen"

I'm confident that it will happen. Probably not with integrated hardware though. Sony bought Gaikai so that would be an option for BC.

aquamala4098d ago

It's true I barely play ps2 games anymore, it's hard to go back to play games with long load times and sd graphics. But the jump next gen won't be so big, a lot of people would still want to play current gen games

I_am_Batman4098d ago

I'm glad I don't have a problem with retro graphics. I just started playing System Shock (1994) again and it's still amazing.

animegamingnerd4098d ago

i still play PS2 games and in my opinion about half the library of the PS2 is better then most games this gen

3-4-54098d ago

I still play xbox games.

Nintendo has been backwards compatible for a while now on both console and hand held.

This gen was BC not sure why next wouldn't be.

* People are going to want to play GTA 5 on their xbox 720 because it's going to be 3-4 years before we get another one.

Other games as well.

I_am_Batman4098d ago

A lot of people (me included) still play older games. I even still play Sega Genesis, SNES and Dos games.

joab7774098d ago

Its even less necessary than ever before. Why? Because i am not selling either. They dont simply play games anymore. They are enetertainment boxes like apple tv. I will put 1 in my bedroom or my kids room so i dont have to move them to the tv i wanna use.they also stream pc content to my tv. Use the time and money on something else.

KnightRobby4098d ago

I actually had to go out and purchase a used Xbox to play some very memorable games. There will be games that you will still be attached to, even though next-gen graphics will shine. A lot of games, even on the Xbox and PS2, are works of art.

It's all about living nostalgia - especially with friends or family.

Oh_Yeah4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

I have my ps3, don't really plan on getting rid of it. For what, like 50$ at gamestop in trade in? No thanks. Ps3 doubles as a bluray player and media streamer so I see no point in getting rid of it when I can place it somewhere else to be used when I get the ps4. So backwards compatibility isn't really a problem. If it's incorporated.. fine, but if it raises the cost 100+ then offer a model without it.

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NYC_Gamer4098d ago

I'm not worried about the new consoles being able to play 360&PS3 software

LOGICWINS4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

It's more of a money thing in my case. If I can sell my 500 GB BC PS3 towards a PS4, then I'm saving a lot of money out of pocket AND I can still play PS3 games.

I think PS4 will be backwards compatible though. Sony received way too many complaints about it this gen to ignore it for PS4. I see them charging $50 more for a BC version.

Belking4098d ago

I'm not worried. If they do they do. if they don't I still have the older ones to play on.

BrianG4098d ago

Exactly. I still got a NES, PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, N64 all put away for when I want to go back and play a game.

To me a new generation of consoles means it's time to move on. Sure it's great to play your older games, but I'm sure you didn't buy the latest hardware to stay stuck in the past.

kickerz4098d ago

My dreamcast keeps resetting itself dang it. Got so many mad games on it too :(

IQUITN4G4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

It would be suicide if either Sony or MS if they don't allow at least this gen of software downloadable and disc, available for use on the next hardware. They really don't have a choice anyway and hardware will remain 100% compatible. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see different models available. It wasn't a given at the beginning of this gen but with so much arcade now available on 360 at least, it's a no brainer for MS certainly. I do expect multiple models though and even a non disc based system for people that are happy not to play any 360. One model being with a drive that plays both 360 and new disc offerings is a possibility for example

People should stop worrying however about not being able to run their library of games because the whole thing is tied into the gamertag now and would be quite ridiculous if you couldn't play this software any more. It would be very short sighted quite honestly. I personally wouldn't bother investing quite as much enthusiasm if things didn't carry over and MS especially will be very aware of this factor

hellvaguy4098d ago

Suicide? Tell that to Nintendo where each system has never been BC (except for recently with the Wii). They never suffered any sales problem.

IMO, xbox shouldn't have a problem to doing disc BC, but doesn't seem likely at all the ps4 will be BC. I mean the current ps3 isn't BC, and now speculation is pointing to the ps4 not using the cell processor.

Who knows for sure? Just a fun hobby, trying to guess at this point. Either way, I'm totally all in for next gen regardless of BC or not.

Ezz20134098d ago

suicide ?!
hyperball much ?!

linkenski4098d ago

With gaming becoming more purely business-minded i can totally imagine Sony and MS cutting the backwards compatibility because they want to resell PS3 and XBOX 360 titles for the new consoles because it simply makes more money.

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GoodGuy091d 20h ago

Odd this and the xillia games still haven't gotten remasters yet.

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