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Saints Row Would Be Better Without Dildos, Says Cliff Bleszinski

This afternoon Cliff Bleszinski–industry giant perhaps best known for his role as designer in the Unreal and Gears of War franchises–has been sounding off on what he thinks makes the Saints Row franchise great, and not so great.

Like dildos.

Gathered from a string of tweets on his Twitter profile, Bleszinski seems to think the franchise has great game mechanics–enough to “give GTA a run for their money”–but finds that their presentation is a little too “immature”, saying “[Battlefield] didn’t go after [Call of Duty] by putting dicks on their guns.”

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BALLARD324100d ago

I'd have to agree with Cliffy B on this one. Saints Row's whacky environment is what sets it apart from GTA but Saints Row 3 was just too over the top. Hopefully SR4 will be more like SR2.

LOGICWINS4100d ago

I played the timed trial and it was too over the top for me. Saints Row 2 was MUCH better since I could actually take the story and characters seriously, thus giving me an incentive to want to keep playing.

knowyourstuff4100d ago

Instead of giant dildos, Cliffy endorses enormous, hulking men with small heads and giant armour suits, who instead will bash people to death with their OWN penises.

BigStef714100d ago

I dont understand why people are disagreeing with you. Its a known fact that the majority of the Saints Row fanbase thought the third was garbage compared to SR2.
For the people saying the third was awesome, have you guys played the other games?

Wenis4100d ago

SR3 just seemed like it was designed by a bunch of middle school kids who think sex jokes are the funniest thing on this planet

ShinMaster4100d ago

Cars didn't fly like in SR2. And it would be silly to take their stories seriously in the first place.
SR2 was a bit too ghetto.

First of all, if you're quitting the gaming business or taking a break, then take a break and stfu. Cliffy's always running his mouth. And BF didn't go after COD.

Wenis4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

^Uh, BF totally went after COD. Look at how dumbed down and "mainstream" (aka CODified) BF3 is compared to BF2 and BF 1942.

hellvaguy4100d ago

"Cliffy endorses enormous, hulking men with small heads and giant armour suits, who instead will bash people to death with their OWN penises."

Half the men weren't actually hulking, they just had on armor and None had small heads. Also, you totally lost me on they beat people to death with penises.

I'm going to go with you've never actually played the game, knowyourstuff and your actually a stealth fanboy which didn't get the game on either the pc or ps3, so your just raging now.

Amplitude4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

Im just gonna go ahead and sacrifice my agrees and say that i had a ton of fun freeroaming in Saints 3 and overall liked it a lot. I had more fun playing co-op in Saints 2 but other than that i had way more fun with 3. The single player missions were just so over-the-top and epic. The opening mission says it all. Jumping out of a plane, freefalling, catching Shaundi, dropping her, shooting out the window of another plane and smashing through its window, catching another parachute, catching Shaundi again and then parachuting. lmao

Sure there was some immature stuff like dildos and whatnot that didnt really need to be there but the campaign was really good and for the most part didn't have that stuff.
And honestly, other than Dildos, there wasnt really any sex jokes. Just over-the-top stuff like that batmobile car and jets and the shark gun and stuff xD

But honestly all that just made freeroaming timeless.

Army_of_Darkness4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

Yes, I finished SR2. But I just loved SR3! I personally find it better in every way! good graphics, game play, okay story and so over top but just pure fun overall!!!

MaxXAttaxX4099d ago

Bulletstorm was one huge dick joke.
Thematically, BF2 did modern combat before COD4.

Cliffy, please shut up.

Gamer19824099d ago

I liked 3 personally but the DLC SUCKED. 2 was better but it wasnt to do with the dildo bat. Nobody forced you to use it throughout the game (I think you had to use in 1 mission). The great thing about Saints Row is you play most missions how you want to play them.

No Way4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

My favorite Saints Row game was still the first game..
And, then the second game comes second, and the third.. third.

I did, in no way, care for the 'over the top' parts of the games.
Some of the wackiness was okay, but I still preferred it to be serious.

ChickeyCantor4099d ago

I loved Saint rows the third. Everyone complains about the purple dildo. I in fact never equipped it once. I actually bought SR2 on steam but still have to play it. Either way I like SR the third. Playing it co-up makes it even better.

Mounce4099d ago

@BigStef71

Strange....for I thought I remember seeing that SR3 was the most successful....and all I heard from all my friends who had bought it before me kept on saying how awesome it was and how you can just buy it and just get right in and don't need to play the other games. All positive things of it....

'Its a Known Fact' - . . . You should be a reporter and start using that line on a lot of things.

BigStef714099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

@Mounce
Actually Saints Row 2 and the third were both very similar in sales and reception so neither one was more successful. Yea it was easy for newcomers to get in the game because volition completely neglected the story from the two previous games which to be honest was a slap to the face to the series hardcore fanbase. The third was way too over the top and got stale fast. SR2 had way better missions, activities, a better city by a long shot which had so many things to explore with a bunch of easter eggs, better characters, and the story if I would even call it one was garbage compared to previous games. All I am saying is SR2 had a good balance of being serious and crazy which is the reason the series got popular in the first place. The third lacked the charm that the first two had. If you go to the Saints Row online forums it will be very clear that the majority of the community doesn't like the third. Maybe for newcomers the game was fun but for the fans of the series previous installments the game was a huge disappointment. This Angry Joe review of the game will prove why my statement is valid:
http://youtu.be/XHB0CQ3uPj4

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guitarded774100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

"Saints Row Would Be Better Without Dildos, Says Cliff Bleszinski"

Says the guy that endorsed Bulletstorm... geez.

da_2pacalypse4100d ago

No no... Says the guy who endorsed Sawed off Shotgun in Gears3.

Theyellowflash304099d ago

What does him endorsing BulletStorm, which was his job.... have to do with voices his opinion on Saints Row as a gamer?

guitarded774099d ago

@ Theyellowflash30

Have you not played Bulletstorm? It has just as many d!@k jokes as Saint's 3. The dildo in SR3 is nothing more than a visual d!@k joke... my comment was just saying it's the pot calling the kettle black, but I was also joking at the same time. You seem like a very serious person though.

Kurt Russell4099d ago

Bulletstorm was meant to be all dicks and whips... it was a blast to play through, albiet non replayable.

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Riderz13374100d ago

That's the whole point. It's not trying to be GTA, it's trying to be Saints Row. Get it?

BALLARD324100d ago

That's pretty much what I said but they took a great formula in SR2 and just did stupid things with it. Get it?

f7897904100d ago

There's no point in trying to be serious. They know what they're competing against and serve up something different.

Being serious is pointless because if people want that, they'll go with GTA. I loved Saints Row 3 because they intentionally made sure every mission was over the top ridiculous. It's for FUN! Not an engaging story.

Baylex4099d ago

Extactly!! f789790 says it all!
This is not a GTA, it's a Saints Row it always had the sense of humor that GTA never had and it never will. So what it has dildos? if you don't want to use then you won't use it.. if you want, then go ahead.
It can be a serious game or it can be a funny game, do what you like. It has those 2 options.
That's why I love Saints Row and prefer it over GTA a thousand times.

sobekflakmonkey4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

I've played all the saints games, and 3 was my favorite, me and my brother played through on co-op and it was fuckn amazzinnggg, like one of my favorite games, I thought it was genius.

PS, we're both adults.

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J86blum4100d ago

SR3 was great. SR4 needs to keep uping the anti. If you want down play go play Grand Theft Auto. Saints Row knows what it is, GTA keeps jumping around trying to find a solid grounding. it went from wacky in San' Andreas to WAY to boring in GTA4 (graphics and engine physics don't mean nothing if it bores your sensless) And Cliffy B.. No he can talk and talk till the cows come home with his space trashcan men. and all the gears games were nothing special (when fans flip out in a game series when the double barrel shotgun gets introduce and its game breaking. then you did something wrong.)

Tonester9254100d ago

Grand Theft Auto had a purple dildo that you could slap people with lol

Baylex4099d ago

Yes this means Cliffy is just showing off...
I love Gears but he thinks is the best just because he made this games...

lategamer4099d ago

All the gears games were nothing special? Please. There some of the highest rated games this gen. Not only that, Gears 1 basically made TPS popular again on consoles, and its cover mechanics were a step up from previous games like Kill.Switch.

As for Saints Row. I love the franchise. Saints 3 was straight awesome. I LOVED the over the top action. Oh, an airplane is coming right at you? Shoot the windows, fly through it while shooting the fuck out of everyone, and jump out the back. Oh, your in a wrestling ring? Grab a chainsaw and cut people in half. The game constantly tossed crazy situations, and was plain fun. GTA IV was a boring, slow game. IMO, Saints > GTA/Crackdown/etc.

But I think Cliff has a point. Adding Dildo's to the game just seemed crude. It wasn't necessary and didn't really add anything to the game.

J86blum4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

Another Gears Fanboy. (made TPS popular again..) Its called Resident Evil 4, Cold Fear, Killswitch, Windback,MAX Payne,Ratchet & Clank, Jax and Daxter, Tomb Raider, Syphon Filter. I swear Gears fans have blinders when it comes to third person shooters. All these games came before gears. And Gears brought nothing new, maybe annoying shake cam' which everyone hates. And as for cover system You can run through Gears on the hardest setting and not use cover. Go play Killswitch (the king of cover shooting.) and get back to gaming community.

And Cliffy B. is just talking to talk, he makes a comment about Saints Row 3 dildo, however none of the wild and zany stuff in Saints Row 1-2, or early Grand Theft Autos.

by the way, Bulletstorm, was Cliffy Bs' coming out of the closet game, and he has the nerve to judge anyone lol. Go mack another subpar game, and stop talking.

And the reason GEARS sold so well is cause Microsoft has crap for exclusives. they buy rights to DLC and first releases but cannot lock down a studio to save their lives. And what magic Cliffy had is gone. Gears 3 was a joke (and before anyone says well it sold well.) Well of course it did, you have Forza, Halo, and Gears. not tons of options in the way for exclusive fanboys to choose from.

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Pushagree4100d ago

He's one to talk. His games are the same base, barbaric, brainless drivel that give gaming a bad reputation.

BigStef714100d ago

100% agree with you. They need to go back to what made the first two games so great

palaeomerus4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

Cliffy B isn't really known as a beacon of good taste in video game marketing himself. He's not the right person to lead this fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

" HEY DICK-TITS, THIS GAME AINT GONNA ORDER IT SELF HAHA!!!! "

Marcus Fenix : " More like TEN shit loads!"

SilentNegotiator4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

SR3 lacked tact in general. They killed Johnny in 5 minutes, for crap's sake. The story was great up until they killed Julius...it was like they took recognition of the irony and killed it in place of goofiness. It was a tad disappointing that Saints Row 2's excellent story telling didn't go anywhere with the ironic stuff, and neither did SR3.

garibubuprincess4100d ago

I don't think it was the over-the-topness that made SR3 a lesser game. For me, it was the lack of content. I don't think it would've been so disappointing if there was a build-up into the wackiness. Instead, it was ridiculous bullshit from the get-go, which just gets boring.

SilentNegotiator4099d ago

"it was ridiculous bullsh** from the get-go"

Whaaaat??? It's not like you blow up a building, jump out of a plane, and launch missile strikes in the first 2 hours.

lol

showtimefolks4099d ago

I had a blast with SR2 but Sr3 was just all over the place and just too crazy.

Look I love the fact we can act crazy in SR series but a little bit of a mature tone would do wonders for it. Give us all the craziness but than also provide a proper story that makes sense and is fun to play

Hopefully now with a different publishers that will happen

koehler834099d ago

So you don't want anything to set it apart from GTA?

You just want it to BE GTA?

That makes sense.

Syntax-Error4099d ago

I loved SR3 and thought it was the best out of the series. I do also believe they have the power to rival GTA because the engine and mechanics are on point. The shooting and controls are top notch. The hand to hand combat destroys GTA in all areas. if they did do a game like Heat, Traffic, or Michael Mann production I think they would blow the roof off. Everyone's fav mission in GTA was the bank robbery if you do a story that's believable and engrossing, you have a hit. I love the customization as well. Playing as myself was such a blast.

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-Mika-4100d ago

Wow,that was really homophobic.

IAMERROR4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

It's Mika
...
That is all

though I gotta admit this statement was really dumb "“[Battlefield] didn’t go after [Call of Duty] by putting dicks on their guns.”"

TekoIie4100d ago

Really -_-

Nah your not being genuine, your a troll. No way can someone have such a horrible opinion/attitude towards as much as you do.

JoelT4100d ago

I still don't understand how you can go wrong with dildos.

On topic: Saints Row is a game that doesn't take itself too seriously and that's why its formula works.

RuperttheBear4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

Sometimes they go in the wrong place, but usually it's a mistake ON PURPOSE. Sorry, I meant it's usually a mistake.

garibubuprincess4100d ago

I still don't agree with people who think that the tone itself is what made SR3 a disappointment. There was just clearly less thought put into it than SR2.

NovusTerminus4100d ago

I think SR3 over did it. But SR2 had a nice balance going on, and I really liked it allot more.

ape0074099d ago

100% agree but it's still a very nice and fun game, it's like gta's younger crazy brother

Enemy4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

Gears of War would be better without boring gameplay, pointless stories, forgettable multiplayer and characters, and bro-parties.

Edit: It's now clear Cliff tries to put his traumatizing past which involves dildos behind him by making the most generic, laughably bad "masculine" bro game he could possibly make.

CaptainPunch4100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

Edit: never mind I got what you said, I feel like an idiot lmao

Also making an article on someone's tweets is sad.

omi25p4100d ago

Boring gameplay and forgettable multiplayer.

ok sure, what ever you say.

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New Shark Tank Inspired Wolves’ Den Game Contest With Spatial, Youtube, and Gaming Legends

Rapper/Actor Ice-T, and YouTube, Gaming Legends, Cliff Bleszinski, Welyn, And Barji To Judge First ‘Wolves Den’ Game Jam Series On Spatial Platform

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N4GTG37d ago

This could be great for some indie developers

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Gears of War Creator CliffyB Offers His Thoughts on Xbox Exclusives Going Multiplatform

During a recent Game Rant interview, Gears of War creator CliffyB comments on Xbox-exclusive games possibly adopting multiplatform models.

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S2Killinit38d ago

Im sure he would love it. More money for him.

OtterX38d ago

Yea, I remember seeing him and his Lamborghini at one point in history. Lol, I think that kind of gives it away.

rippermcrip38d ago

Doubtful he gets any residuals from anything Gears related.

rippermcrip37d ago

Bunch of clowns down voting without any explanation of how exactly he is getting money off Gears. You think Notch still gets Minecraft money too?

jznrpg37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Depends on the contract. Some contracts have residuals some don’t

Whitey2k38d ago

Sometimes I don't get what he says half the times. He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way

Notellin38d ago

I imagine this is exactly how fanboys feel how this went down. Microsoft paid for all the development and took all the risk off Epic games for a new IP.

It has nothing to do with anyone being a fanboy. Well other than yourself who oversimplified this entire franchises history.

LoveSpuds38d ago

I agree Notellin, however, once he was in bed with MS he did become pretty 'anti Sony' ans was such a shill for MS.

Hofstaderman38d ago

This. And Sony also does this with titles these days.

shinoff218338d ago

I thought it was said cliffs shopped it around hence rumors of a ps3 demo being out there. If ms took on all the cost, why is there a ps3 demo?

Rude-ro37d ago

Not true at all.
Microsoft had to buy the ip because the contract ran out on keeping it exclusive.
Microsoft took no risk, they just marketed the game and payed for a contract.
Not hard to find out.

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Ironmike38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Your the the fanboy

Sciurus_vulgaris38d ago

No, Epic signed a development and publishing contract with Xbox for Gears of War. After Judgement Microsoft still had the Gears of War publishing rights. Epic then sold the Gears of War IP to Microsoft in 2014. Cliffy B never owned Gears of War, he was just a lead designer of the series.

rippermcrip38d ago

Ya I don't know what people are saying about CliffyB making money of Gears sales nowadays. He was never the owner and Epic no longer owns it either.

ChasterMies38d ago

“He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way”

It has nothing to do with fondness for the Xbox platform. Microsoft paid for exclusivity.

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Travesty38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Well when you look at the sales perspective of ps5. It has a big audience selling over a 2 to 1 ratio. It makes money sense.
Fanboy era was at its prime during the ps3-360 generation. It’s not as toxic as it once was, thankfully. People grow out of it eventually. I have my preference just as the next person. That being said it’s coming to be more about expanding availability instead of standing behind a brand. Much more Microsoft than Sony. But Sony will probably move up its time of PC release for increase revenue.
We will see, it’s just speculation.

Psychonaut8538d ago

CliffyB is like David Jaffe at this point, always quick with the opinions but haven’t made a successful game in over a decade at this point. Do any of us really care what they think about anything? I certainly don’t.

shinoff218338d ago

I never liked the guy tbh but he's got more relevance in gaming then we do.

Skuletor38d ago

CliffyB, I haven't heard that name since Lawbreakers flopped.

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Sorry, CliffyB, But "Gears of War" Doesn’t Need A "God of War"- Style Reboot

Shaz from GL writes: “In an interview, Cliff Bleszinski says that he’d be interested in helping develop a Gears of War reboot akin to God of War. Unnecessary? I think so.”

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Jin_Sakai164d ago

Regardless, Gears of War gameplay feels outdated this day and age.

spicelicka162d ago

I completely disagree. Outdated in what way? There is literally no other cover based TPS multiplayer game like it and the core gameplay is so good that people still play Gears 1 today. I can't think of any games that has shotgun battles like Gears. The real issue is that there is simply no new audience for it, because the learning curve is so steep. It just needs to market itself better and the work needs to be done on the campaign side. Better to just split up the single player and multiplayer as two different projects and releases.

Also, this who "reboot" discussion isn't considering the fact that God of war doesn't have multiplayer as a significant portion of the game. Single player only games have a lot more freedom to change. With Gears you have to consider that there's an entire community still playing every day, so you can't just change the core gameplay balance. On top of that they can't dedicate as many resources to single player as God of war, because the budget has to be split with multiplayer.

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Gamingsince1981161d ago

There is no other one like it because there is no demand for that style of game, kinda obvious really. If there was an interest in gears style games the market would be flooded with them.

lucian229161d ago

Gears of War 1 and 2 were bad combat wise.... Story wise too. I beat both of them because of the hype and gave up after that.

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GamerRN161d ago

I agree. It needs done kind of overhaul, but I don't think a God of War style would suit this game.

I gotta be honest I don't know what it needs, but it needs something ... And 5 wasn't it

terrorofdeath161d ago

Maybe it's a reboot more in the sense of a more emotional storyline or something like God of War, and some small tweaks in terms of gameplay.

anast162d ago

They don't have the talent to do a GoW style reboot.

DOMination-162d ago

Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?

The Coalition probably have the best and most knowledge team on Unreal Engine 5 outside of Epic. I'd have thought if anyone "had the talent", it would be them.

Rude-ro162d ago

Because they did not do a fantastic job when they took over the ip.

In fact, the majority of ips under Microsoft shows complete signs of cheap development with bigger marketing budgets.

More make up on dated engines can work… but can not be mistaken for innovative.
No innovation equals no ability to push a franchise into anything new.
Take the “open world” introduction in the last gears…
Empty vast traveling areas to get to pre determined “random” encounter areas is a cheap developing approach.. not innovation to build any trust into.

kneon161d ago

Even if they were the best in the world at UE5 that would only mean that they might make a great looking game. It takes a lot more than that to make a great game.

anast161d ago

"Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?"

History and current output.

jznrpg97d ago

Look at the last 10 years and you have plenty of evidence

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rgraf77161d ago

God of War is overrated. Those boring boat rides talking and backtracking.

GamingManiac161d ago

Bruh, that made me laugh lol

anast161d ago

I'm not big on the game, but it isn't overrated.

Inverno162d ago

A reimagining that continues the lore, and story of established characters is absolutely a great way to continue a series that needs a refresh. I agree that any long standing franchise that has run it's course definitely needs a "God of War" style reboot, because GOW did it right. I might have my issues with the last two games but they did right by the series regardless.

Ra3030162d ago

There's no helping Gears of Woke. Microsoft killed this franchise when they forced the woke culture into the story.

itBourne162d ago

God of War did the same, just in a more subtle sly way.... They could of probably made a few cuts and bam, PG rated movie right there. God of Rainbows and Daisies.

itBourne162d ago

Dang, so many dislikes lol, willing to elaborate, just didnt want to throw out a bunch of spoilers. If anyone wants to discuss as to why, im always open to discussions. Just shoot me a DM.

343_Guilty_Spark162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

How is it woke? Because the lead is a female?

Is Horizon woke also?

CantThinkOfAUsername161d ago

It is, but not due to the gender of its protagonist.

zeuanimals162d ago

There's no helping you. Anti-woke culture killed your brain when they force fed you the idea that diversity is the worst thing ever.

Ra3030162d ago

Lol....good to see that you agree as do I with the fact Microsoft went woke as Disney with the Gear franchise. Microsoft tried to save the franchise by taking the formula that was working with the strong Bro leads and going to the woke weakass female formula that no one cared about.

Binarycode162d ago

Diversity isn't a strength. Look at the world. That's the reason it's in the state it is.

Gamingsince1981161d ago

Forced diversity is the reason people don't like diversity, you should just hire who is best for what, not have to tick boxes first then worry about talent next.

zeuanimals161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

@ra3030

Every company has gone woke, even successful ones. Those don't fit your narrative though. Yeah no, the only two things Microsoft and Disney have in common is that they're woke /s

Totally not that they're risk averse companies that don't wanna innovate in fear of it being a waste of time. They've got bottomless pockets and limited time. So they spend their time trying to crack codes, find patterns, create money making templates out of whatever property they're working on. It needs to be as mass produceable as possible. Disney and Microsoft, bringing sweat shop factory made quality to gaming storefronts and theaters near you.

zeuanimals161d ago

@binary

Right because the world was so much better segregated... and there's a million other reasons I'd put ahead of diversity as to why the world is the way it is, but way to show how much diversity is on your brain by how dangerous you think it is. It's literally the cause of everything to you.

@gaming

Actually forced diversity is the only reason people like diversity. If you don't force people to do it, they won't do it. The only people who end up liking it due to having met new people with different perspectives only ever got to because they were kind of forced to. That's literally part of the reason diversity is being advocated for, because it promotes innovation. Having dozens of people with too similar of viewpoints can lead them to being too likeminded and unable to think of different solutions, or even different problems that weren't even recognized. There's more than one way to be a useful hire, and having a genuinely unique perspective is one of them.

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Crows90162d ago

I thought they were doing a soft reboot with gears4 but then it turned out to be the exact same as all the others.

A more horror oriented and tight corridor renewal would work for that franchise....also...why they got guns? They're alien like...they should have other types of weapons entirely.

OMNlPOTENT162d ago

dang why do most of the different species in god of war use swords, axes, and bows? They should have other types of weapons entirely.

Crows90162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

They don't... Okay you obviously haven't played god of war. What a way of owning yourself man! Lol

The draugr are pretty much the only ones...and besides we're comparing established mythology with made up bug aliens

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