The Fall of Halo 4: Addressing Halo 4's Declining Popularity

Gameranx: "How Halo 4 has fallen through the ranks as the Xbox Live's most played game."

[kamper]

Halo will have it's rebound when it comes as an MMORPG

[NeverEnding1989]

Err...can't take the article seriously.

"Halo 4 is the best and fastest selling Halo in franchise history" From the developer: http://www.examiner.com/art...

Online gameplay wise, it is the best yet. Congrats 343!

[FriedGoat]

It's the laggiest halo to date, Don't get me wrong, really enjoying it but the lag is terrible. And no it's not my connection, my NAT is open and my connection is awesome.

[JANF]

@FriedGoat

i have not experience any major lag issues with the game. It usually runs smooth.

[killalot100]

@FriedGoat

Man a Halo game with servers will be so badass. Cant really play anything if servers are not supported. P2P should be outlawed.

[JANF]

There are a few problems 343 need to address soon.

1) More maps competitive and casual
2) Competitive playlist (Bring back MLG settings)
3) A Real Ranking System
4) Need to tweak some weapons (The boltshot for example is way overpowered)

fix that and H4 will be an excellent game

[krautgamer]

they are not bungie. just hope they fix that in halo 5

[HaMM4R]

Also let the flood have weapons rather than just the claw on flood!!!

[Mainsqueeze]

Completely agree with everything JANF said. The reason why i stopped playing was because the lack of competitive maps and no competitive ranking system. I bet if 343 did a study and looked at how many times Haven was picked when it was a choice it would be above 95%. In my opinion Haven is the only truly good and solid competitive map 343 put into the game but it still gets boring playing the same map 90% of the time. Plus i'm also tired of getting level 130 .5 KD ratio ppl on my team in slayer...in h2 and h3 those guys would be a fraction of my level and i wouldn't get matched up with them. As you said when 343 fixes these things H4 will be a top notch halo title for me.

[Anon1974]

While Halo 4 may have fallen in the online ranks, I think that's less of a problem with Halo popularity and more a indication that there's just a tonne of great games out there vying for player's attention.

Personally, I don't know how you can sit there and with a straight, honest face write an article about the waning popularity of game that's sold something like 7 million copies. Close to 80% of released console titles will never see a million in lifetime sales, so in my opinion this article could use a little perspective.

Halo's not going anywhere, but hey...if you need to resort to those articles that trash whatever's popular to generate hits, you do what you gotta do.

[morkendo23]

what'd!!!! HALO is FINALLY fallen from online grace??
so that mean GEARS and FORZA is left while PS3 has boo-kool of games.
THIS IS NOT TROLLING but rather observation over the years.
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not a 360 owner but what else Microsoft have left besides gears,forza, banjo kazooie if halo 4 fell from grace???

no offence to anyone. after 7 years with only 4 games that i know of majority of them rehashes (sequal) ON 360. personally i would Have left the darkside of the force to (PS3)

[Gazondaily]

The lack of maps is the biggest issue in my opinion. Whilst the game is great and doesn't suffer from many matchmaking issues, the same maps get picked over and over.

[hennessey86]

I was on halo 4 last night and as far as I could see there were a lot of players online.

[Mocat]

"Declining Popularity"

You do understand English don't you.

[Belking]

Even if Halo declines( which isn't happening) it's still more popular than 99% of games out there. Don't believe me watch how much the next one sells. Over 50 million sold and made billions of dollars.

[truewittness]

Hit piece...that's all. Approved by people that never played Halo or by the ones that hate it's existence. Haters gonna hate.

[grayfoxx881]

I don't think it's a hit piece at all. The article brought up legitimate concerns that are within the Halo community, concerns I share as well. Take a look at the Halo forums, and the obvious silence from 343i.

[grayfoxx881]

You can't simply write off the forums because some people whine too much. Yes some complain, others though remain civil while critically looking at the problems with Halo 4.

Hey, I like 4, way better than Reach imo. Just because I like playing it doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the problems with multiplayer, the wash that is Spartan Ops, and the population decline.

[truewittness]

yeah, probably not a total hit piece but just writing an article just because it'.s about halo. he's pointing out a problem that's not really a problem but just to get read. more people playing more games that rate up with halo isn't a bad thing but that people play more games.

[Gazondaily]

I approved the article and I'm probably a bigger Halo fan than you.

[truewittness]

Doubt it...and how would someone be a bigger Halo fan? were you there for halo:ce? do you know what xboxconnect or gamespy have to do with halo without goggling it?

[00001]

as a long time, die hard fan. just like film and comics, my nerd interest switches and becomes interested in new ideas and genres. halo is a bit played out, halo 4 should have came out instead of halo reach imo. halo 4 was a great game, i enjoyed it a lot, but im just finding other games and gaming genres more interesting at this point. halo 4 was just a good game at the time, not sure how often i jump in and play multiplayer in the next year.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

i freaking love halo 4, play it every single minute of my life if im not sleeping, or working, or taking care of / playing with the kids

[vickers500]

Halo 4 is by far my favorite Halo game multiplayer wise. Though I never played Halo 2 mp past a few split screen matches a really long time ago at some community center thing, so I can't really speak for that game.

I've always thought Halo games were 'good', but to me they were never amazing. I've been having SOOO much fun with Halo 4s multiplayer mode. It's kind of similar to when I first played Call of Duty 4.

But I will say it is in dire need of some new maps, at least for the Team Slayer modes. Tired of playing Adrift/Haven/Complex/Solace (I think there's one more) over and over again. I mean Haven and Complex are really great maps, but the other two are kind of meh, and I'm just tired of playing them all.

[InTheLab]

Just speaking on the single player. The first hour was epic but the 7 hours were dull. The main reason is how boring the new enemies are. A dog and the equivalent of a brute. The weapons are boring. Same s*** we've been using for a decade.

This is the first Halo aside from ODST I didn't bother doing a Legendary run.

As for Spartan ops, it's locked behind a pay wall so I sold it off once the 2 free weeks of Live ran out.

[Dms2012]

The Didact was well done though.

[Mithan]

I enjoyed Halo 4.

Don't give two shits about multiplayer.

[mochachino]

The only reason I stopped playing Halo 4 MP is I stopped paying for Live Gold. It's just not worth it, as I also have a PS3.

[xursz]

I can sympathize. Live has seemed pointless for a long while now.

[killalot100]

I really enjoy Halo 4 and it is a great game. It does have many issues that I am currently waiting to be fixed. One major one is matchmaking and the insane tiny number of maps to choice from. Lag is another be issue. I port forwarded, I opened nat ports and my ISP is more than fast enough. Its just a hit and miss when it comes to connecting to people that don't lag across the damn map. Cant really complain about the weapons, nothing to bad about it. Most of this can be fixed its just when that I want to know. For now Gears of War 3 is where Im at.

[StreetsofRage]

Halo 4 is by far the best Halo when it comes to shooting mechanics and skill level. Almost all the hardcore MLG players agree. But the hardcore, myself included, only play custom games. Now I do think the matchmaking needs a big upgrade because it's pretty boring. They should just remove the veto system especially in BTB because everybody just picks Exile. So in short...

1. More Maps
2. Remove the veto system.

[killalot100]

I consider my self Ok at Halo 4 at best. All the previous Halo games I was a lot better. I truly think all the top tier Halo players embrace Halo 4 but I cant see how any pro mlg type players can stand P2P type MP.

[grayfoxx881]

Hasn't MLG officially dropped Halo 4? I think I remember reading that not too long ago.

[Mainsqueeze]

Yes but not because it was unpopular with pros but because of a contract Microsoft has with Virgin gaming.

[ShaunCameron]

I didn't know that selling 7.5 million copies in a mere two months out on the market is now considered a flop.

[aviator189]

343i just needs to bring back some laid-back gametypes (action sack, grifball, etc.) as permanent gametypes that won't go away.

Oh yeah, and forge maps need to enter matchmaking.

[Landshark]

I find it kind of odd that Black Ops 2 is the best selling game of all time, yet people think that Halo 4 is failing.

Let's look at some interesting facts. First we should remember that both Black Ops 2 and Halo 4 released six days apart.

Call of Duty Black Ops 2 was released on the Playstation 3, Xbox 360, and the PC. 3 gaming platforms. It sold $500 million the first 24 hours and 7.5 million copies the first month.

Halo 4 was only released on the Xbox 360 (ironically, at the time when PS3 and Xbox 360 console sales were almost dead-even). It sold $220 million the first 24 hours and 4 million copies the first month, roughly 50% compared to Black Ops 2.

Yet, did we forget that Halo 4 only released on 1 platform? Those are some pretty damned impressive numbers for Halo 4. Also, let's remember that Halo 4 on the Xbox 360 was in competition with Black Ops 2 release on the same Xbox 360 console. Yet, it still managed to sell extremely well (and by extremely I mean EXTREMELY).

I'd argue that by comparison, Halo 4 actually sold BETTER than Black Ops 2.

[ironmonkey]

The only thing that bugs me about the game is when people are joining or leaving the game and you have to wait so long for it to start again. And yes that lag is annoying also. Amazing game? Yes.

[SITH]

Personally, I just got tired of halo 4. And that happened faster than past halo games in the series, including spin offs.

[headblackman]

personally i like halo 4 as well as the maps. and there are some really good maps and well designed maps on halo 4 but in order to play a different veriety of the maps you have to play the different modes the the game offers. the only 2 issues ive got with halo 4 is the lag in spartan ops and the campaign ending. other than that the game is very good. in fact i would go as far as saying that they're doing a better job with the evolution of the halo franchise than bungie did.

[mikemadden]

I may be wrong, but isn't all the DLC for Halo 4 coming out in the next 2 or 3 months? Could this mean Halo 5 is coming this fall? I wouldn't doubt it.

[SuperHorse]

I will have to disagree the "The Fall of Halo 4",If anything they have gained a new fan base!

[SuperHorse]

Hello anyone out there?

[oakshin]

wow learn 2 read b4 u post this isnt about sells its about xbl halo 4 is falling off the map online get it? less people r playing online understand? jeez

[whoyouwit04]

Halo has always falling off the XBL map fast and yet it still sales millions, so what does that say? That people never really bought halo for the multiplayer but the campaign. beside what Sony game last long with online not even the ones made for online do a dam thing. and how are you going to say this has nothing to do with sales when the first paragraph is,

Prior to its release, Halo 4 was the most highly anticipated game on the Xbox 360. As a 360-exclusive title, it was considered a system seller—or "killer app"—for Microsoft's aging console. Like the previous games in the series, developed by Bungie, were subject to long lines during the game's midnight release on November 6 last year.

You can tell this article was written by some one who doesn't like the xbox, how the hell are you going to write about a game saying its popularity is on the decline when on a singe console it sales 7.52 million in 2 months? What sony exclusive ever came close to doing that? Don't hand me that BS about well there are just to many games to pick from when games like COD, and AC, always sell millions with a whole sea of competition in a few weeks.

There was really no need for this article because what they wrote about has been going on since halo 3 which is halo falling from grace off of XBL a little after its launched.

[oakshin]

for the second time.....the article is about less people r playing online not about how many people r buying the game

u r uzzing xbot right now what made u bring the playstation into ur post? sonys had playstation exclusives since 1994 the brands built on em

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