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Is Sony Going Down an Old Road?

"This announcement begs the question—will Sony be supporting this technology with its next console? They’d be fools not to, since it’s a technology that they’re investing in. However, if they do opt to support it, they might be in for another difficult generation with their next console. They’d be going down the same road as the PS3 traveled." | Explosion.com

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strigoi8144113d ago

getting old..omg! run for your lives..sony is doomed

Cam9774113d ago

"Getting old" - what do you mean? Sony IS old, it was formed after WWII.

Minato-Namikaze4113d ago

Doom articles already? Guess they have to get they ball rolling sometime, lol.

millzy1024113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

read the article its about wether or not ps4 will have 4k and should they push it. its not a doom article, if people read they will know it isn't even close to a doom article. they said if they push 4k it will be like what they did with ps3 by releasing the most powerful console at the top end of the market. the author thinks ps4 should push 4k

Ult iMate4113d ago

Before we start to properly read articles, writers should learn to properly title their articles and not to rely on such sensationalism in naming their articles. I guess the story between Kotaku and Hideki Kamiya didn't teach them nothing.

specsmatter4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

The thing that sets Sony apart from its competitors at least in my eyes is the fact they always aim to push console tech and have power behind it and first party devs have tapped into alot of that power. If it wasn't for the way Sony handles business and pushed tech in consoles i wouldn't even be that invested in it and would probably just settle for the competition. I own several Ps3's, Vita, move, almost all of their exclusives for a reason

On that note i bought a 1080p 50 inch when it was still thousands just to be able to play games unscaled on my ps3 (dont mention 1080p games because those are far and few)and even went out and bought a Samsung 3d tv to play kz3 in 3d. My point being there are adults that work that can and will go out and buy the next big thing. We all know 4k wont be in games because 1080p native console games are a rare breed but in a few years time i would buy a 4k tv for 3,000 (but that's just me).

I hope the new ps4 has 4k capability so that i can watch movies in the future in 4k doesn't matter if i have to wait three years or so.

If Sony didnt push boundaries tech wise it wouldn't distinguish them from the competition. I mean 1st party games would but part of the magic of those first party dev games come from the tech housed in the ps3 and their products.

millzy1024113d ago

almost everything you said only applies to this gen, ps1 and ps2 where weaker consoles than the competition but ps1 came with audio cd playback and ps2 with dvd (xbox did but you needed an add on) which where huge selling points at the time, they also had alot of third party exclusives mainly silent hill, resident evil (on ps1) and final fantasy, but over the years they lost all of there third party exclusives because there now multi plat. because of this sony brought alot of independent and second party devs to make exclusives for ps3. im not a sony hater infact i love them and owned all there console home and portable, but it annoys me that for the first time that they release the most powerful console everybody re writes history and says they always have when its not the case.

specsmatter4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Who said always has had the stronger console? I never said that lol Im 34 years old and have been playing games longer than most so sorry bud you have the wronf person. Not once did i say they have always had the stronger console. I said that is what is setting them apart now. Vita is also a testament to this.

Thats what sets them apart now and thats what matters, not them now!!!!! because there is way more competition now on all fronts. And is the part of the reason I go with Sony over others.

Ppl that have been gaming for years dont need a history lesson in consoles ive owned most of them from colecovision, turbografx, neo geo, 3do, saturn, ps, nin 64, etc......

I said push console tech and tht includes dvd, blue ray, etccc and that is something they always do. Psp was also stronger than ds and had better tech behind it.

cee7734113d ago

ps1 and ps2 were like the first of there gen so of course they would be weaker. But ps1 was has more power than saturn its direct comp thats what you dont realize microsoft and sony are in direct comp this gen and next for specs

zebramocha4113d ago

Both playstation systems came out before both of nintendo's so couldn't do anything on the hardware side to make any deficit.

profgerbik4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Yes but in my opinion the depth in PS1 games compared to N64 were beyond what Nintendo was even doing at the time. Some of these games were even developed by Sony.

That is what he means by pushing boundaries even though the PS1 was only 32bit and the N64, 64 bit they still managed to produce games that had more depth and much larger scale than most Nintendo games.

What good did it really do when Nintendo wasn't utilizing either of those systems well at the time. They really weren't.

As for the PS2, I don't remember really any Gamecube games other than animal crossing, harvest moon and probably a few others that I played often. I owned it and I had a bunch of games I never played,the Ps2 I was always on there, was always something amazing on it to play.. A lot of games Nintendo just didn't have.. even though the PS2 may not have been more powerful their games and the system showed it didn't need that to beat Nintendo in the same sense of the PS1.

Not to say N64 didn't have some great games but I remember far more from Playstation and like I said what good does it do when you aren't utilizing your hardware to the fullest potential?

Call me hater all you want but just how I feel.

Not to mention you could play imported games on Playstation consoles which added even more variety from games that never even came over seas. It's nice never having your console tied to region like Nintendo's.

Playstation to me has always had the best variety of games to choose from. I would say Nintendo isn't trailing far behind these days and Microsoft to me lacks the most as far as games are concerned but I am sure as they are around more their games will grow.

Luckily for me the company I stick with now is known for putting out the best hardware and software to go with it. It may take them time but it never lets me down.

I prefer a strong finish over a fast start. In my opinion Playstation always finishes the strongest. Maybe not in terms of sales but in terms of what they bring to the table every time.

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joeorc4113d ago

"Sony recently announced a new line of 4K displays, each with far more resolution than anything on the market using a single screen. "

Did these media folks go to CES 2013?

Because i doubt they did, because if they did, this 4K claim is not only wrong, but that Sony is not the only freaking company doing such move's

example:

Nvidia's 'Project Shield' - First portable device to output 4K video

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1...

just because your Hardware has the capability does not mean you "Have to" OR WILL DO! it just means you CAN support it.

porkChop4113d ago

Project Shield can only output via HDMI to a 4K TV. That's completely different. These Sony TVs can actually *display* 4K. Understand? Also, last time I checked, things like Project Shield aren't "on the market" as they haven't been released yet.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6414d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long14d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197214d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer14d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218314d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii20d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit22d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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