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New PlayStation Move Design Discovered In Latest Sony Patent

A recent patent filed by the conglomerate reveals a sharp new design for the peripheral that could provide gamers with a better handle on the Move wands.

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wishingW3L4120d ago

indeed... Sony should update the camera in a way that can read a much more smaller orb instead of making it bigger and uglier.

TheGamerDood4119d ago

Why are so many concerned with the way it looks? Isn't it more important to be concerned with how it improves gameplay. lulz

kneon4119d ago

A smaller ball will be less accurate and makes it more likely that some other object in the scene could be confused for the ball.

rainslacker4119d ago

Technically the orb could be as small as a pinhead and still work, although dpi of the camera may require something bigger.

In order to determine the distance the ball moves towards the camera, it calculates the size of the ball in relation to the camera...if it's bigger it's closer. It then calculates the difference in size to determine how far it's moved. Using the time it takes to move between those two points gives you the displacement variable associated with motion. It also calculates rotation and other fun mathematical stuff.

However they have to take into account the size of the handle itself, and make sure that the ball doesn't ever get obscured. Something that could happen if say you turn the controller sideways and the handle hides the actual globe.

IAMERROR4119d ago

No gamer is going to strap on some controller to his legs and get on the ground just to kick a virtual Soccer ball. lol

ChrisW4119d ago

At least it looks less like something you'd find in a single woman's bed stand...

G20WLY4119d ago

^^ At least you'd know she's 'game' :P

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SilentNegotiator4119d ago (Edited 4119d ago )

Article from 2008: http://arstechnica.com/gami...

Not new at all.

GribbleGrunger4119d ago

It doesn't matter what it looks like, it's all about comfort and ergonomics.

GribbleGrunger4119d ago (Edited 4119d ago )

I'd also like to point out that this is a really old patent that was revealed BEFORE the Move was released.

Check out the date of this same patent:

http://gizmodo.com/5070985/...

Oct 30, 2008

This is NOT news. If anyone disagrees then I'd suggest they have some kind of problem and should seek help

Lord_Sloth4119d ago

I'm a little worried about the location of the Analog sticks but as long as I can still use a Dual Shock then I don't really care.

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guitarded774120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

My initial thought was more perverse.

Oh, and I'm not buying Move all over again... Sony just needs to make the Move we have now work with the PS4.

EDIT: I guess I have nothing to worry about since koehler83 took the time to Google it. :D

Quadrostacker4119d ago

I'm still waiting on my star wars first person lightsaber game. They need to make it happen with the move.

zerocrossing4120d ago

It may be best to make steps away from the motion sensor gaming for this coming gen... It hasn't bode well for either Sony or MS respectively.

zerocrossing4120d ago

Ok apparently Im getting some disagrees here, so allow me to elaborate a little.

Motion sensor gaming since being implemented by Sonys Move and MS Kinect hasn't really made many waves in the industry, Im not saying motion sensor gaming is a dead end gimmick but its pretty evident that no games or franchises from either company has really given us much of an excuse to think it's the way forward for how we play games and heck even Nintendo who pioneered motion sensor gaming is moving past it into tablet territory, the controller is still very much king.

zebramocha4120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

The reason why they haven't made a impact is ,some dev do not know how to use either tech,move tech is established but not to many care to us it,kinect tech is not mature enough to be implemented in any game where it makes sense other than casual stuff.

UnholyLight4119d ago

I can't help but always do a Facepalm when I read things like this. Without trying to be rude I just think that saying something like that is silly really. The whole point of motion this gen was almost like the start of a looooong term project. It's highly unlikely anyone will come up with the "perfect motion gaming solution" any time soon but in the mean time we can strive to find ways to make this tech work and in great ways. We can only do this through learning and experimentation.

It's like North Korea with their rocket launches LOL...It make take failure and error but we can take that failure or that experience from learning and eventually someday we will find new ways to reach success.

Nobody ever succeeds when they believe they truly will fail or that everyone that says "Dead On Arrival! or "you will always fail!".

That's just my take on it, progress for the sake of progress, I'm glad Microsoft at least went out on a limb to try and make pure motion work, and that Sony tried to perfect the motion controller.

zerocrossing4119d ago

@UnholyLight

So you're happy paying full retail price for prototype tech that's barely gotten any support this gen?

Like I said motion sensor gaming isn't a dead end, it may well add something useful eventually but let the R&D do the testing.

In reality the move and Kinect are just cashing in on the Wii's success, the Move isn't improving on the Wii-mote and the Kinect hasn't added anything interesting to the harcore demographic except maybe voice commands.

Yeah, they have some mildly entertaining gimmicks and interesting party games, but they aren't justifying their existence, I don't feel the defence that they are "experimental" holds much weight, motion sensor gaming currently offers little to the medium but fleeting novelty and it damages the experience in certain circumstances.

koehler834120d ago

A very quick google search of "Sony Motion Controller Patent" shows these same images from as far back as 2008.

Qrphe4120d ago

Yet someone out there is actually writing these type of articles. It's a blog though.

thaking1554120d ago (Edited 4120d ago )

I am a Everything Sony Playstation fan but Sony doesn't get it, The move was not successful. Just Stop! I don't understand why they never really utilized the motion controls in the six axis. Give it up just like 3D gaming! Please!

thaking1554120d ago

I enjoy seeing the disagree's but tell me why there are disagrees? What games has the PS Move produced?

BitbyDeath4119d ago (Edited 4119d ago )

'What games has the PS Move produced?'

4 Elements
adidas micoach
The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn
The Amazing Spider-Man
Ape Escape Fury! Fury!
Auditorium
Beat Sketcher!
Beyond: Two Souls
BioShock Infinite
Blue Toad Murder Files
Book of Spells
Brave
Brunswick Pro Bowling
Buzz!: The Ultimate Music Quiz
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2011
Carnival Island
Champion Jockey: G1 Jockey & Gallop Racer
Child of Eden
Counter Strike: Global Offensive
Create
DanceDanceRevolution
Dance on Broadway
de Blob 2
Dead Space Extraction HD
Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos
Disaster Report 4
Disney Channel All Star House Party
Dungeon Hunter: Alliance
Dungeon Defenders
Dust 514
Echochrome II
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Everybody Dance
EyePet
EyePet and Friends
Fast Draw Showdown
The Fight: Lights Out
Flight Control HD
Funky Lab Rat
Gal*Gun
Get Fit With Mel B
GoldenEye 007:Reloaded
Grand Slam Tennis 2
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2
Hasbro Family Game Night 4: The Game Show
Heavy Fire: Afghanistan
Heavy Rain
High Velocity Bowling
The House of the Dead III
The House of the Dead 4
The House of the Dead: Overkill
Hustle Kings1
Infamous 2
Infamous: Festival of Blood
John Daly's ProStroke Golf
Just Dance 3
Just Dance Kids
Killzone 3
Kung Fu Rider
Lemmings
Little League World Series 20101
LittleBigPlanet 2
London 2012
MAG
Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest
Michael Jackson: The Experience
MLB 11: The Show
MLB 12: The Show
Modern Combat: Domination
Motionsports Adrenaline
NBA 2K11
NBA 2K12
NCIS
Ninja Gaiden 3
No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
Order Up!!
Pain1
PixelJunk 4am
Phineas and Ferb: Across the 2nd Dimension
Planet Minigolf1
PlayStation Move Heroes
Portal 2
Racket Sports
Rapala Pro Bass Fishing 2010
Resistance 3
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny
R.U.S.E.
Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves
Sesame Street
SingStar Dance
The Sly Collection
SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs
Sorcery
Sports Champions
Sports Champions 2
Start the Party!
Start the Party! Save The World
Swords & Soldiers
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest
The Shoot
The Unfinished Swan
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13
Time Crisis: Razing Storm
Top Spin 4
Toy Story 3: The Video Game
Tron: Evolution
Tumble
TV Superstars
Under Siege
UFC Personal Trainer
Until Dawn
Virtua Tennis 4
Wanted Corp
We Dare
Yoostar2
Zumba Fitness

Just them so far...

Hicken4120d ago

It was successful enough for them, obviously.

thaking1554119d ago

Yeah I guess so. Still sucks

akaakaaka4119d ago

do you even have a 3dtv?
3d is a whole new experience while you play the game everything look cool and more beautiful and immersive..

Move is more like a gimmick but some people like it and it helps Sony to win some market shear(casuals) and cash in some extra $
Sony should stop forcing it on hardcore games and focus it on casual only games, thats their mistake with it so far.

next gen you will see 3d how was meant to be with the new 4k tvs
and it will become somehow irrelevant by 2020 once the 8k tvs comes out sine the quality is so good that it looks like 3d already .

akaakaaka4119d ago

Lol i can give you 100 article that say PS3 is death and your point is?

4k tvs I believe they all have 3d (Sony ones, toshiba, lg does)
and most 1080p have 3d, how is that death? many games and movies are in 3d today (most konami, sony games do) it's just not boost any more because its out there already and they don't need to hype it any more..
so how is 3d death?

3d will become irrelevant one 8k the new toy to have, by 2020 8k will be relevant and make 3d irrelevant, sine the picture quality like been there alive coming out of the tv.

maniacmayhem4116d ago (Edited 4116d ago )

3D is hardly out there the way it was promoted heavily last year as the next big thing at CES.

It's not hyped anymore because it failed to catch on, not because it's already out there.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar953d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal953d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein953d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS954d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721954d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever954d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar953d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics954d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos954d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils954d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein953d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr954d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721954d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard954d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever954d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal954d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal953d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH954d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin953d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290954d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo953d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC953d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy954d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa954d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins954d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos954d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever954d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC954d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever954d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen956d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad956d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007956d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia956d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992956d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992956d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad956d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex956d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992956d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic956d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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