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PlayStation 4 could capitalize on Wii U's incompetence

PlayStation 4 will most likely be debuting this coming year, and for Nintendo, that could be a bad thing given its limitability.

According to a report from GamesIndustry on Wednesday, Ben There's Dan Marshall said the tech within the Nintendo Wii U is not very good.

"I don't think the tech behind it is good enough either. But I will say that the original Wii controller wasn't great technically, either.

"Everyone was expecting it to be 1:1 and it wasn't. Know everyone is expecting the GamePad to be like an iPad, and it's not," Marshall said.

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Neonridr4123d ago

lol, I was never expecting the gamepad to be an ipad. That's what my Ipad is for. I expected the gamepad to be a touchscreen with new control methods for playing games, and that's exactly what it offers.

Sure I can browse the internet on the gamepad, and it's actually quite responsive and intuitive. But I didn't buy a Wii U so I can update my facebook status or twitter. The fact that I can do them is a bonus, but I'll leave the mindless internet browsing to the ipad or desktop computer.

Abash4123d ago

Anyone else notice that when Examiner's Steve Ruygrok writes an article about people talking about next gen, he specifically makes it all about the PS4? Its the most bizarre thing I have ever seen when 99% of the time the article is actually about BOTH upcoming consoles from Sony and MS.

This is just one example, read the article and he could have easily interchanged the title with PS4 or Xbox 720, nowhere does this solely say anything about the PS4

I bet it's a cheap tactic for hits

VegaShinra4123d ago

He puts Xbox 720/PS4 in every headline he gets a chance to. Cheap hit baiting. Hopefully people will learn to avoid this guy in time.

iamnsuperman4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

"lol, I was never expecting the gamepad to be an ipad. That's what my Ipad is for. I expected the gamepad to be a touchscreen with new control methods for playing games, and that's exactly what it offers. "

Which for me is a miss opportunity for Nintendo. They really needed to make the controller extremely portable. Of course this would make things really expensive which makes me think screen in controllers in gaming is not ready yet. The fact you can play Wii U games on the controller is cool but completely unnecessary. Despite economic down turn more families have more than one TV since TVs are extremely cheap. Families do not sit in one room and watch TV anymore. What the Wii U could have done is play Wii U games on the go.

Combine that with extremely cheap, social, games then the Wii U will be flying off the shelves and into the masses hands. I think a big problem is it looks like the Wii U is competing with Ipads and children these days would rather have an Ipad because they can play their angry birds, sims style games anywhere while browsing the internet. The Wii U is limited to the home

It is interesting to have different input methods in games but that is a half step and Nintendo should have taken the full step forward. Also it is up to developers to really use the feature but if the other two console makers do not have screen controllers developers (except first party) are not going to spend extra time using it. It will be relegated to just menus.

Neonridr4121d ago

I agree with some of your points, but saying that playing the game on the controller is unnecessary is completely untrue in my opinion. Yes I have a TV on every floor in the house, but the TV that is set up in my loft is the primary media TV. It's the 55" 3DTV, and that's where we watch our TV shows and movies because it has all the equipment hooked up to it. So being able to allow my wife to watch her reality TV shows or whatever while I can continue to play Black Ops 2 or Trine 2 on the gamepad is huge in my mind.

Obviously the off play feature isn't for everyone, but having the ability to play the game while I lie down in bed, or just to allow the Mrs. to hog the TV is a godsend for me. I wouldn't be playing the system half the time otherwise.

While the gamepad will undoubtedly be judged against things like the iPad just like the 3DS and Vita have to face competition from smartphones as they increase in power and capabilities, I still think they provide different experiences. A console gamer is expecting a little more depth than the latest angry bird or words with friends. The fact that the gamepad can browse the internet, or update your facebook should be considered bonuses, not requirements.

And with your last point, yes it is definitely up to the developers to utilize the gamepad screen effectively. Ubisoft did a great job using it for ZombiU and here's hoping other studios can offer great experiences with it too. Only time will tell of course.

Jadedz4123d ago

Considering Wii U sales, every bit of negative press stings a bit more.

LOL_WUT4123d ago

Well, if you're going to make a gamepad then at least do it right from the get go. Multitouch anyone? This is where Sony/Microsoft end up 1 upping Nintendo. ;)

yabhero4122d ago

Yes, that's brilliant because the WiiUpad is already expensive and a multitouch screen would easily add 50-75 dollars right there

Tei7774122d ago

"50-75 dollars"...... No

DarkHeroZX4121d ago

Lol the vita screen cost about $50 but not because it's multi-touch but because its OLED. The Wii U uses an LCD screen and that's dirt cheap, atleast $10-15 bucks. Cheaper bought in bulk

EddieNX 4122d ago

Why would you need multitouch idiot ? To pinch and zoom like a girl on her glittery iphone ?

Don't be stupid. The wiiu had dual analogue sticks , it's easier and less gimmiky to zoom in by moving the analog stick forward.

Capacative screens have no use what so ever in real gaming. Most smartphones don't have buttons , so you need to be able to pinch and zoom.

The 3DS and Wiiu are both better off without capacative screens. They are button based consoles with secondary touch screens after all.

herbs4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Sony just patented Blu-ray Discs with RF chips in them meaning if you buy a game it will only work on your console once you play it... Now that's innovation!
Hey bro can I borrow your game, oh wait :[
I'm not so sure I enjoy this game I gonna trade it in, oh wait :[
If Sony follows through with this there finished, wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft does the same. All hail Steambox lol ;)

Muerte24944122d ago

don't think for yourself do you? You let the internet do it for you. There has been so much speculation on this simply because it's been the only real news since quarterly reports. The ps3 was suppose to block used games. Did that end up happening, no. They should do what they're doing now with online passes. Lock content, and force the person to pay to unlock them. $10-$15 is reasonable and you're left with two choices, either buy it new, or Gamestop is going to have to drop the prices of they're used games to compete. Either way developers and you win. You get cheaper used games and your favorite studio wont have to shut their door forever.

BitbyDeath4122d ago

'Well, if you're going to make a gamepad then at least do it right from the get go.'

Better yet, how bout no screen at all?

Neonridr4121d ago

multi-touch is useless when the gamepad has all the buttons.

Name one game for the ipad that uses multi-touch other than for zooming in and out.

ElectricKaibutsu4121d ago

People keep saying "multitouch multitouch multitouch" as if multitouch is good for gaming. Haven't you used a multitouch keyboard before? You never noticed how inaccurate poking things with your finger is? It's why we write with pens and pencils and not finger paint.

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Belking4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Maybe, maybe not. I don't think Nintendo is worried about Sony or MS. They have their audience too.

MsmackyM4122d ago

Microsoft and I hate to say it Sony, could potentially lose big next generation. The situation in Europe is a foreshadow of what's coming to the US. With Europe dealing with it's economic crisis there's not much money families have to spend on non essentials such as gaming. Yeah Nintendo didn't go hogwild with it's specs, but I feel that was a move to remain somewhat still affordable in case the economy doesn't improve. And with having at least a year ahead of Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo has that time to continue to make it's case to gamers and families.

If Sony and Microsoft want to make powerful consoles they could potentially price themselves out of the market depending on the state of the economy. Personally I'm looking forward to what Sony has to offer and more than likely pick it up, but I can't say the same for families trying to cut back.

iamnsuperman4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

"The situation in Europe is a foreshadow of what's coming to the US. With Europe dealing with it's economic crisis there's not much money families have to spend on non essentials such as gaming"

The economic situation in Europe is because a few countries are failing (Spain, Italy and mainly Greece) and if they fail it will devalue the Euro which is why there is a lot of money trying to bail these countries out. Apart form those countries who (of course who's people cannot afford luxury items) the rest of Europe is just suffering similar economic problems the world has been suffering since 2007 and that hasn't stopped people buying in Europe £500 Ipads and phones. You will be surprised how people (despite a recession) buy luxury goods. It is usually holidays and things of that nature that suffer

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.