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The Wii U Is the Worst Gaming Console Ever Created

The Wii U is the worst gaming console ever to have disgraced the shores of the gaming market, and it will be the downfall of Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer.

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Bumpmapping4143d ago

I agree 100% only hardcore casuals will defend this flaming turd.

-Mika-4143d ago

lol "hardcore casuals". I do agree with you and im glad to see the comments in the article agree.

decrypt4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics.

Wii U will do fine.

@theBAWSE

Historically Weak consoles have always done well, check history:

PS1 weakest console of its time, yet was the best selling.

PS2 Weakest console of its time same story,

Wii Weakest console of its time history repeats itself.

This isnt the PC industry where people actually check up specs and benchmarks to see how a certain hardware performs. This is the conso.. casual gamers they dont care about graphcis or performance.

theBAWSE4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

Personally with the neXTBOX and ps4 round the corner Nintendo was stupid to bring out such a weak console ...lemme explain before Nintendo fanboys start a riot..I was rooting for Nintendo I have owned every Nintendo console apart from the wii,I had high hopes for the wii u but Nintendo have given themselves a mountain to climb...this gen they missed out on all the third party games due to their hardware being much inferior to the 360 and ps3 and now history WILL repeat themselves...

what do you think is going to happen when third party developers want to bring out their games simultaneously on the nextbox and ps4? They are not going to waste resources making an inferior version for the wii u...the only third party game I CAN see that will have a dumbed down version for wii u owners is COD...you certainly won't see a dumbed down gta 6 etc

the wii u is a quick fix for now but in the long run will be a costly mistake for Nintendo maybe not in consoles sold but in how its treated by third party devs just like it was with the original wii.

reynod4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

"the wii u is a quick fix for now but in the long run will be a costly mistake for Nintendo"

Not really, Wii was by far the most profitable console this gen. Both MS and Sony struggled. MS might have come out of the red barely, Sony is still probably in the red in this gen. Hence if the Wii U is a repeat for Nintendo just like the Wii, its no way going to be a "Costly Mistake".

theBAWSE4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

@decrypt if that's the case why did third party devs skip the wii? especially with developers complaining th is gen is too long do you really think when they get to go wild on the new hardware of ps4 and nextbox that they will then dumb down their game for the wii u? It didn't happen this gen and won't happen next gen

your point is seriously flawed ps1 and ps2 had third party support the wii didn't.

@reynod if your going to quote me quote me PROPERLY did I say costly in profits? NO

millzy1024142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

first off how many disagrees you haters got, second off all the Wii u is not the worst console ever made and I have owned every single console on the market since 1988. the worst one to me at least is 360, these are the reasons why.

1 I have had 5 red ring on me all the rest I've only needed to own 1 hell my GameCube and ps1 still work. how many out of the 70 million Xbox 360 are replacements?

2. you have to pay for online which is covered in advertisments all over dash board, usually when you pay for something its add free also they block free to use apps to gold membership, imagine if you had to pay extra money to watch you tube on your phone you would flip out but on Xbox its ok. microsoft have no excuse for this.

3. lack of real exclusives that are not on pc. halo got shit after 2 and I've played them all, 4 doesn't have as good graphics as everyone says, you only need to
look st uncharted and crysis 2 on pc to figure that one out.

4. the Kinect does almost exactly what the eye done on ps2 minus voice recognition its nothing new and hardly works. that alone is the worst thing to happen to gaming.

5. its only good for 3rd party ports that you can get superior versions on pc and they are on ps3 anyway (which has loads of quality first party games, killzone, uncharted, gran turismo, ratchet and clank, infamous, littlebigplannet, soon to be the last of us which is the best looking console game ever made, wipeout, journey and god of war) to name a few.

6. a lot of people only buy one to play cod with there friends which is not a reason to buy a console, my mates keep on trying to get me to buy another Xbox and I refuse to give Microsoft any more money for what I can do on my ps3 and now Wii u for free.

I've tried so hard not to bash Xbox but this Nintendo bashing is getting out of hand you need to grow up and play the system before you can say its shit, why do MULTIPLATFORN PLAYERS SAY THEY PREFER WII U VERSIONS OF XBOX AND PS3 PORTS IF IT IS THE WORST CONSOLE EVER MADE.

Wii u hardware lesoson 101, everything I mention here is fact not rumour I do t talk rumours,

the Wii u has 2 CPUs one on the mcm (multi chip modular) one seprate for os.

it has 4 sticks of 512mb of ram 2 wired to mcm to be shared between CPU and Gpu and 2 wired to os chip and the ram is not as slow as people want to believe it is, show me one article on someone programing for Wii u that has complaints about ram speed.

it has a seprate sound proccessor (unlike Xbox which takes up about a third of the proccessors power for dolby digital) so that "weak proccesor is just to run The core program for games everything else is split up into different processors.

it has a disc read speed of 27mb/s 3 times that of the ps3 (which require mandatory installs because buffer speed is to slow to render textures off disc)

the gamepad doesn't add extra burden on processes its just like splitting an image onto 2 screens on a pc. simple

the Gpu has 32mb of edram which is a significant amount (360 has 9mb edram) do some research if you actually understand what computer components are and how they work before saying something is shit, if you dont understand what are you hitching about as its obvious you don't have a clue.

the Wii u cpu is not a supped up Wii processor it is similar but not the same, the Wii CPU is in/out execution the Wii u is out/in and you can't swap the execution on the same architecture, its the architecture itself that does the execution so it os indeed different.

Gazondaily4142d ago

^^^ What a load of nonsense.

jeseth4142d ago

I don't know anyone that has a Wii U and/or is even talking about it. A lot of the people I know have a PS3 or 360 (One or the other) AND a Wii. Nobody is talking about buying the Wii U ... even for their kids.

The Wii U has nowhere near the buzz the Wii had, the only place I hear anyone talking about the Wii U is on gaming sites like N4G etc.

mcstorm4142d ago

@millzy102 You say you have owned every single console on the market sine 88 and the 360 is the worst.

Did you really think about that before you said it or are you just making up story's?

Your saying Atari Jaguar, 3DO, Apple Bandai Pippin and the Sega Saturn were better consoles than the 360?

As for the WiiU I think it will be fine once MS and Sony bring out there next consoles as I don't think they are going to be that much more powerful than the WiiU as making expensive console is what really hurt Sony at the beginning of this gen and if you look at the sales of the PSV or even the 3DS before it got it price drop they were not doing that well.

People are hard up at the moment and consoles over £350 when the 1st come out now are not going to sell that well until they get a price drop.

Also Sony and MS will be going after the none core as well as the core market as there is a lot of money to be made in both.

I cant wait to see what Microsoft and Sony have to show us with there next consoles but I don't think the talk will be about how much more power they have over the WiiU.

As for the WiiU its self I think it will be fine when Sony and MS release there next console as it has more than enough going for it.

I was unsure of what to expect from the WiiU when I got it and I have to say I am very impressed with it.

The controller works very well with FPS games as COD (Even though im not a big fan of the game) Works well on the WiiU controller and then I also have ZombieU, MarioU, Seage all stars and Nintendo Land and they all offer different types of Gaming and the WiiU controller works well with them all and offers something different to what the 360 and PS3 offers.

But Add the extra screen on the joypad it adds to the options in the game.

The Wii U will not be for everyone just like the PS3 Xbox ect are not for them but I think the WiiU will be fine for when Sony and MS bring out there consoles.

guitarded774141d ago

Some of you appear threatened by the Wii U's existence. It's easy to generalize Wii U owners as "hardcore casuals", but just about everyone I've talked to on Miiverse is a multi-console/PC owner. They are gamers who aren't insecure about which platform they game on, and choose to experience everything they want to experience from games.

Does the Wii U have limitations? Of course. Will it be able to run the top AAA processor hungry titles the PS4 and NeXBOX will? No. But it will be able to do something else... it will play Zelda, Metroid, Mario and other Nintendo exclusives in HD with a completely new input device. That's what Wii U is. It is a console built around a controller. If you don't like it, STFU and stop being a jerk. If you actually had a constructive criticism about Wii U, I would listen, but all some of you do is troll.

Shnazzyone4141d ago

Today I learned that I too can write any old terrible fucking article and as long as I make the article title as negative against nintendo as possible... Not only will it get a free pass through the site's approval process, it will also get to the front of N4G.

Any moron knows the worst gaming console ever created was the jaguar. Funny since it was so much more powerful than the competition when it was made available too. Interesting to think about when focusing on the system capabilities = consoles value viewpoint.

SilentNegotiator4141d ago

"Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics"

You REALLY are convinced that if you say that enough times it will be true, aren't you?

dantesparda4141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

@guitarded77

Nobody is threatened by Wii U. Alot of people just think it genuinely sucks because the specs and games are not impressive in the least. And costs to much for what it is and what it can do (its basically a current gen system masquerading as next gen). Plus its Nintendo, and they are cheap! they give you by far the least, they only give you what they have to and nothing more. Plus they are a kids company, and im to old for all the kid/cute sh!t

@Shnazzyone

No the Jaguar was not the most powerful machine for its time, are you crazy, its was weak, very weak. Why do you think it looked bad. It had a 16bit grahics chip and was a very unbalanced architecture. You just think that it was more powerful cuz it claimed to be 64bit compare to the others being 32bit. Its obvious you know nothing about technology other than what they advertise to you. even the 3DO was technically better than the Jaguar.

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darthv724142d ago

"The Wii U’s three core processor is rumored to run at 1.243125 GHz per core, while the GPU runs at 549 MHz. On the face of it, this is actually slower than its 360 and PS3 competitors. Newer chipsets and architecture probably means that the Wii U is a bit faster in practice than its seven year old competitors. But the next generation of consoles will likely be released within a year, and their specs are almost sure to completely blast the Wii U to smithereens."

It is really sad to say that we are in the year 2012 (almost 2013) and there are people who still think that raw speed equates to performance. Take a page from the kings of speed AMD/Intel as it relates to CPU horsepower. "SPEED" is not what it once was.

Efficiency has shown that things can be processed quicker on newer chips that actually run at a lower clock speed than their older siblings. simply put...the clock doesnt mean what you think.

As to the other systems coming out. People will be very surprised when they wont be the huge leap in technology people have become accustomed to. There will be improvements in performance but the biggest changes will be in the features the newer systems will have.

consoles have been trying to replace many devices in the home entertainment center and this gen they came very close. With TV's have web browsing and netflix abilities, the new consoles will have those plus a plethora of other PC related functions but now be even more convenient than before.

the trend is "convenience" and we are on a convergence of many different devices into a single unit. Many have already moved on from the big bulky PC world to something more mobile with similar performance but most of all convenience.

The specs of the next gen are purely speculation. I would doubt the "smithereens" wont be happening in the sense of computational power but more in the sense of memory to process the workload. Keep in mind, a console (or set-top-box) has nowhere near the overhead of a dedicated PC so the amount of horsepower will not be anywhere close either.

On a side note. the deliberate negativity in this article is evidence that it was written specifically to be negative. It would not surprise me in the least if the author really does like the wii-u but chose to write this for the purpose of seeing the reaction from others.

bicfitness4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

Um, the CPU is a souped up triple-core Broadway chip. The PPU architecture it is using, is over 10 years old; same stuff from the Gamecube, just retooled. Its really sad that people spew off tech jargon without a full understanding of facts. And the RAM bandwidth is still awful, so that's your next biggest no-no, in terms of performance.

Its fine to like the Wii U and to look forward to playing Nintendo franchises in HD (720p - there are no 1080p native games on the system), but you're not going to get massive performance out of it. After the tradeoffs and advantages are all added up and subtracted from each other, you have a machine about as powerful as a PS360. Period. Better in some respects, weaker in others. An iPad has better juice than this, and that is a FACT.

Edit: I will admit though that this article is pretty misinformed too. And clearly made to incite.

Gamer19824142d ago

So what if its triple core? My mobile phones a quad core and its only 1ghz.. Sure it has three cores but if it has a low clock speed its gonna struggle.

millzy1024141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

@mcstorm yes I did think about what I said and although the consoles you mentioned where pretty bad (exception Sega Saturn) I bet they all still work, and It was a different story in the late 80s 90s than today, if you spend 300 dollars on a system at launch you except it to last longer than 2 months (that's how long my first 360 lasted until I sent it to Microsoft that alone makes it the worst console in my eyes) if your paying a premium for online I expect no advertisments even psn and Nintendo network don't have adverts and I would except adverts on these because there free, like free android games have adds but the paid or pro versions don't as advertisment pays for the free game.i have never been so disserpointed in a system before in my life and I expected so much more from the 360 as I loved the old Xbox that is why in my opinion the 360 is the worst, if you have to have 5 of the same system because playing oblivion on it killed it you know its bad.

Shnazzyone4141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

@bicfitness
"the CPU is a souped up triple-core Broadway chip. The PPU architecture it is using, is over 10 years old"

So it's a tripled in power version of a chip design that is enhanced by newer technology? I think that's the DEFINITION of a new processor architecture design. Is it really going to be so bad to admit WiiU is a reasonably powerful machine? Do you folks really find it easier to do mental gymnastics other than accept that new tech is new tech and likely better then 5 year old options? I mean it seems unhealthy.

Ihaa4141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

Being 1.24Ghz isn't slow at all. For comparison, the person who created the emulator for the Wii on PC stated that core for core, xbox 360 is only 20 percent faster than the 729Mhz wii cpu. For refrence, the xbox 360 core has 2 threads each running at 1.6Ghz. The difference is the architecture, the Wii/Wii U cpu's have a extremely low CPU pipeline(4 or so stages) compared to PS3,360 which have roughly 20. So to do lets say a float multiplication on the Wii U cpu is actually much faster than it is on the Ps3 and 360. Plus, the metro developers clarified they were talking about the very early dev kits and if your recall, the devkits got a lot stronger after that.

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Knight_Crawler4142d ago

Well its confirmed people, Nintendo will leave the consol market and focus only on the handheld market - Valve Steam Box will replace Nintendo.

N4G is about to become a war zone with the PS4 Clan vs the 720 tribe vs the Steam Box aluminaties :)

Oschino19074142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

I think you meant "illuminati" and not "aluminaties".

I am pretty sure many of them would refer to themselves as the enlightened ones and not an aluminium/oxygen compound.

hivycox4141d ago

if steam box arrives the one who will be replaced is most likely Microsoft...
Do some research why Microsoft is the only one wo will be hurt...

Its funny how a company like Nintendo survives soooo many console gens and no one can't even touch the glory of Big N...

Live with it!

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zerocrossing4142d ago

@Bumpmappin
@-Mika-

You two are trolling morons, get a life.

neogeo4142d ago

Worst console ever?

Let me educate this kid. I spent over $300 for a Atari Jaguar, stayed up all night just to open it up xmas morning to load up cybermorph!

keabrown794142d ago

but damn if AvP didn't make that system every bit worth while!

badz1494142d ago

the Wii U is basically turd? oook

ATi_Elite4142d ago

.......Um that title belongs to Onlive or Action Max!!!!

Also when Zelda WiiU or Metroid WiiU comes out or a Nintendo Game that pushes the WiiU innovative abilities to the Max you Clowns will be foaming at the mouth!

Nintendo is not all about GRAPHICS but more about friendly fun family Gaming and the WiiU will provide that just fine for those who don't need all their games to be Rated M

ALLWRONG4142d ago

Why hasn't this been removed for trolling?

If anyone said "I agree 100% only hardcore casuals will defend this flaming turd." in anything PS3/PS4 it would have been removed in minutes.

Hicken4142d ago

Or anything Xbox, for that matter.

Nice try, though.

RuperttheBear4141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

This article wouldn't last 5 minutes on here if it had ps3 or 360 in the title. Happy now Hicken?

This is complete flamebait. The site seems to have been made just to make this article and get hits. And yet it was approved.

A serious lack of quality control is in place here.

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Pozzle (4) | 7h ago
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GynGa (2) | 1d ago
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Why -Mika- is allowed to approve anything is beyond me.

ALLWRONG4141d ago

"Nice try, though." You like that? I'll let you use it since you follow me around so much. As for this "Or anything Xbox, for that matter." Wrong! this is N4G.

neogeo4141d ago

He is just mad because his mother likes it hardcore casual:)

MariaHelFutura4141d ago

If it`s any consolation, I approved it by mistake. I was looking who approved it, my son was climbing on me and hit enter accidentally. I was the 10th approval. Sorry. I couldn't take it back being the 10th. I would if I could and yes this story should be removed, just based off of it`s the only story on the entire site.

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avengers19784141d ago

I know one thing for sure..... it's not a good thing for Nintendo that a few weeks after they launched the Wii u I can go to just about any store and find one, target, best buy, GameStop, and Walmart all have both versions in stock... might just be in nwohio, but it's not a good sign for Nintendo. IMO not selling out of all there stock is a very bad thing.

RuperttheBear4141d ago

The ps3 and 360 were widely available after launch, there was always plenty in stock. How are they doing now?

avengers19784141d ago

It took me a lot of trips to multiple stores to find a 360, a PS3, and a Wii. And in the case of the Wii, and PS3, I waited at best buy for hours because, they "might be on the truck" the 360 I just happened to stumble on

CalvinKlein4141d ago (Edited 4141d ago )

^^^^^^ Says the crybaby ps3 fanboys.

dont you ps3 crybabies ever get tired of writing and submitting your own blogs to complain about nintendo or microsoft?

StarCSR4141d ago

Yeah right... I'm glad I got my WiiU. And I have been gaming for 25 years now. I've got all Nintendo consoles, all Sony consoles and a 360. I play all kinds of single player games from RPG's to adventures to platformers. My collection consist of about 400 boxed games (that's not world devestating, but it show that I'm not one who only plays Mario for example)... But hey. Bumpmapping says I'm 100% hardcore casual, just because I don't shit on the WiiU.

3-4-54141d ago

I'm not giving this trash hits.

There are random consoles that sold like 800 units...

And this is somehow worse ?

What a trash human being this person is.

MrKingofVideoGames4141d ago

@mcstorm whoa whoa whoa... I get your point but don't throw the Sega Saturn under the bus with the likes of the 3DO and Jaguar. The Saturn had excellent games, is durable as heck (mine still works just fine), and took online gaming to the next level- going well beyond what the XBAND did for the Genesis and SNES. Sure, it got trounced by the N64 and PS1 in sales but that does not make it a "worst console" candidate.

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chadboban4143d ago

Wow, this article was just made to start flame wars between narrow minded fanboys.

Also, is it just me or is this Wii U article the only thing on the ENTIRE linked website. Something smells fishy here?

MikeMyers4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

And people think it's just Sony who gets attacked. Can you imagine how many responses this topic would get if the headline was PS3 instead of the Wii U?

This article mainly deals with the technical side of the Wii U hardware. Specs aren't going to be the issue for Nintendo, it will be in software support. Just like its always been. You have a device like the 3DS that on a technical front isn't very impressive but sales would indicate otherwise.

However I don't see the Wii U repeating the success of the Wii. I think Nintendo rode the wave of motion controls and the Wii U kind of complicates that. Casual gamers supported the Wii because it offered something new while being very easy to use. Nintendo has now run the risk of coming across a system with new gameplay features but also marketing itself as a more serious platform for hardcore gamers. I don't know if they will be able to pull it off. Not when you still have major publishers treating it as a secondary product. Some of the big games coming in 2013 have no plans for the Wii U. Meanwhile the casual gamer might be put off with having to deal with multiple screens.

TheFirstClassic4142d ago

Just look at the comments section of that article, arguments between a bunch of dumb fanboys. We might joke about how n4g is bad, but the community here is really alright compared to a lot of websites.

RFornillos44142d ago

"fishy" would be an understatement.

that site was created just to spew hate over Wii U...

1upgamer994143d ago (Edited 4143d ago )

LOL, I am so sick of people who have not even sat and spent HOURS with the console bashing something they know NOTHING about accept perhaps a demo at the local Gamstop. I have PS3 and Wii U also a great PC. Wii U, is a GREAT system, and some games I wish I had bought on it rather than my PS3, such as BOPS2, Madden13, Assassins Creed3. I don't care what this or any other person thinks about it. I like it, own it, and can compare it FAIRLY, to my other options to play. The internet is seamless something my PS3 is not, even Youtube (not the app) on Wii U is better. If you are a "Gamer" Please if you have not used the Wii U in depth, don't bad mouth it, as you have not even tried it. I forgot to say, the screen on the gamepad looks great! You can see that anywhere!

MsmackyM4142d ago

All the people bad mouthing the Wii U, are people who don't own it and have never experienced it first hand outside of a kiosk, and have no life of any substance. Trying to compare the $350 Wii U to a $800 iPad is just silly and immature, and clearly is a comparison from someone who has never experianced the Wiiu. Nintendo dares to different something different, and offer experiences that can only be had with Nintendo.

Consoldtobots4142d ago

IM actually interested in picking up a Wii U, just want to see what the game lineup is for the holidays. Anybody who thinks Nintendo is competing with the other two spec for spec doesn't understand their business model. In fact they have the same philosophy as Sony. FIRST PARTY EXCLUSIVES.

Zodiac4143d ago (Edited 4143d ago )

Is the battery life on the controller really a problem?

You can plug it in while playing. You can use it at about 30 feet away? You cannot walk back 30 feet after 3 or 4 hours of only playing on the gamepad to plug it in?

It's just a controller with a screen on it. What were honestly planning to do with it?

Edit: This loser created a website to bash a console? It's the only thing on the site.

Jadedz4143d ago

Nintendo is hated on the most, confirmed.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 23h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 20h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 19h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 12h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 11h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 23h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 22h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 23h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 18h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 11h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 20h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 6h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

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XiNatsuDragnel8d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing7d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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