Metal Gear Solid V Possibly A Vita Title (The Phantom Pain)

PushStartSelect: "If you didn’t bother to watch the VGA’s, you probably still saw some of the stunning trailers that came out of it. We got an awesome The Last of Us trailer, and of course a mysterious The Phantom Pain trailer. If you read our previous article we were one of the first to tell you that this game was actually Metal Gear in disguise. Well after watching the hints roll in and constantly watching the trailer over and over, we have an idea. Perhaps this game is for Vita!"

[Snookies12]

I seriously doubt that... Especially if it's MGS5. There's no way they'd have a game like that exclusive to the Vita. Unless it's like a cross play thing with PS3. Although yes, it does have a "V" in the title, which can indicate both Vita and Five. I love the Vita, and would love a major exclusive for it, but I want MGS5 to be console for sure.

[Irishguy95]

It trailer was in game right?

ie: Not a ****ing chance

[Muffins1223]

A ps vita is a hybrid between a ps2 and a ps3 so it would be downgraded but not by allot...

[NoFanboyRequired]

yeah, the trailer looked like a next gen title. highly doubt the Vita could render something looking that amazing. But it'll most likely be a Vita title scaled down to what it can handle.

[CobraUnit]

It definitely did not look next-gen or like CGI and the worse part about it was the fire which looked quite poor to be honest.

The animations and lighting were great but to ACT as if it looked mind blowing is just silly.

[morganfell]

MGS 5 = The story of Liquid and Frank Jaeger.

[Snookies12]

@morganfell - God I hope so! That would be amazing...

[breakpad]

NO there is ***ing chance if you notice the number of polygons that every model uses in game is very low for ps3/x360 game ...maybe is in fox engine but even MGS4 has better quality in all aspects ...it

[sikbeta]

MGS:PW bombed on PSP, why would Kojima put effort on the Vita which is actually doing even worse than PSP, let alone the little base of gamers in that platform, delusional...

[SPARDA_426]

Peace walker was originally called MGS5, and it was for psp at the time of its release, so you never know.

[MariaHelFutura]

Great. But THAT wasn't a handheld game.I'm not saying a Metal Gear Solid won't be on the Vita, a bunch will end up there eventually like the PSP. I'm saying THAT was not a handheld game.

[jony_dols]

Kojima ported over part of MGS4 to show off the graphical capabilities of the PSV at it's unveiling and it looked great. So why are you so adament THAT this isn't a handheld game (especially after Peacewalkers success on the PSP)

[SandWitch]

As much as I would like to believe it's PS VITA game, it's not possible judging from the graphics. It looks like a next gen console game to me.

Though the article is making some interesting points.

[MariaHelFutura]

"So why are you so adament THAT this isn't a handheld game"

Because I have 20/20 vision and I've watched the trailer enough to know it`s not a Vita game. Show me ANYTHING on the Vita that comes close to this trailer in terms of visuals and I'll change my mind. Even something that is only in development. If this is for the PS Vita, It`s for the PS Vita 2 and this is releasing in 2016. But seriously, show me something.....

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Based off the trailer shown, I'm having trouble believing that it is a Vita title... at least not an exclusive one. It might be PS360 with a PSV version done separately/scaled down. I really wish Kojima would just officially confirm/deny everything already.

[jony_dols]

@MariaHelFutura:

'Because I have 20/20 vision and I've watched the trailer enough to know it`s not a Vita game. Show me ANYTHING on the Vita that comes close to this trailer in terms of visuals and I'll change my mind'

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It's not the Vita's fault that 3rd rate developers like Nihilistic have access to dev kits....Sony Bend is one the few quality developers to have worked on the handheld & they got some impressive visuals out of it.

Kojima made Peacewalker look better than the vast majority of PS2 games on the compartively less powerful PSP, so it isn't unthinkable that he could get The Phantom Pain to run on a Vita.

[MariaHelFutura]

@jony_dols

That vid of MGS4 still doesn't make me think this is a Vita game.

So, let's end it at this... I hope this is a Vita game.

[one2thr]

I doubt its a Vita game, but then again after rewatching the trailer I noticed that Snake' belly button wasnt up to the graphical level I would expect as compared to watch has been shown in the Ground Zeroes trailer...

And that some of the round objects, werent as smooth as the Ground Zeroes rounded objects as well...

Then again, it maybe a hallucination/dream from Ground Zeroes...

It sure would take a TON of people by surprise if it is a Vita title...

But then again, I doubt it...

[Bowzabub]

Unless it is not intended to mean 5 at all. Just MGS V. As one other gamer on here said, Kojima has never used Roman numerals before..

[Willywanker]

The game is called Metal gear solid V: the phantom pain. The "V" isn't revering to a number or a console, it's a name. Listen to the end of the trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

lastly the game was running in 720p.
http://beyond3d.com/showpos...
http://beyond3d.com/showpos...

[Bowzabub]

Willy.. That just made you look less intelligent than I'm willing to bet you are.

[Willywanker]

did you even bother to watch the end of the video, and checked 1280x720p shots your self?

that just made YOU look dumb.

[Bowzabub]

You do know that most games are developed on PC right? Much easier to downscale games than upscale.

[Willywanker]

Fully aware of that, but the website doesn't say Vita. http://www.mobydickstudio.s...

Right click any of those shots and open them and they will expand to HD. and if you see the end of the video you will hear "V has come to" and then cuts off.

that's all i'm saying.

[GraveLord]

There's no reason why it can't be multiplatform. The Xbox 360, PS3 and Vita and even the 3DS got Metal Gear Collections. It's safe to say all these platforms will get more Metal Gear love in the future.

Metal Gear games are very technically demanding though, so I don't know how a Vita version would work. That Fox Engine must be a beast if it can be that diverse..

[FanMan]

i agree, but the article doesnt say it will be exclusive to the vita. it just says that it could possibly take advantage of cross play because of the statements kojima has made in the past.

[hot4play]

Perhaps its a PS3/Vita cross-buy/play/controller game with Transfarring. Sounds more plausible, but idk with Hideo Kojima you never really know, hehe.

[Mounce]

MGS Peacewalker was officially, basically considered to be MGS5 until 'More' MGS games came to be. PW was also one of the largest of MGS games and to me, one of the best.

It being considered MGS5 yet being a PSP-exclusive for its time shows plenty enough to me. I have a Vita and I'd love for any Canon-related MGS game D: Especially of such scope as GZ or V. Though I 'DO' want to play any MGS game at Top-graphical level to revel in the Fox Engines' glory....

[MariaHelFutura]

THAT was not a handheld game.

[Soldierone]

Some of it looks really poor for a console game. The only other excuse is this was still really early in development. Look at the lack of textures on everything, the poor models with edges, etc.... look at the pans when he grabs the table and knocks them over. Now compare that to Ground Zeroes, there is a huge difference.

Plus when Uncharted Golden Abyss is one of your launch titles, I don't see why people think this is so impossible. Kojima had MGS4 running on NGP/Vita at one point, and the only cost was slow frame rates. Why would he put all this hype into Vita, then wait over a year to announce anything for it?

Personally think he mixed it. Its Ground Zeroes for Vita and PS3/Xbox.

[LOGICWINS]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Rewatch this footage in HD. The graphics/textures look like something ud see on a suped up PC. I'm guessing its a PS4 launch title.

[MariaHelFutura]

I can't even believe anyone has convinced themselves this is a Vita title.

[Cam977]

I know the traile didn't show a handheld game but if it was for the Vita, the Vita would fly off shelves.

[jay2]

VITA needs it. PS3/Vita differently going on here.

[rpd123]

I think that it would be awesome. It definitely wouldn't be exclusive though. I'd like to see MGS Ground Zeroes on the Vita though.

[josephayal]

Only on PS-VITA in full 1080p

[tubers]

in .mp4 format

[NYC_Gamer]

The footage shown was way too advanced to be on any handheld

[Beastforlifenoob]

Not really phones now have the capabilites of running games like this:

[NoFanboyRequired]

Lol those games looking like dirt compared to Phantom Pain. No handheld as of now could produce the quality that has been shown in this trailer.

[Liquid_Ocelot]

You cant be serious.. comparing those shitty games to Phantom Pain v_v

[Beastforlifenoob]

I'm Not saying they look like phantom pain, but remember this IS ON A MOBILE phone, look how much the technology has advanced from this

[ZoyosJD]

Seriously...NO. The facial features alone give it away, not even mentioning the lighting. As a vita owner id love it, but its not going to happpen unless its scaled down.

[Gamesgbkiller]

Would be great .
But if u fallow jaokomi or whatever he calls himself
he said that he isn't interested in the vita because its not that great .
I hope he's wrong like his name :)

[Godchild1020]

Where did you get that information from?

[Kennytaur]

He's a fake twitter account. Everything he writes is for laughs. Can't belive you missed that....

[SandWitch]

All this Phantom Pain thing is surounded by a lot of lies and trolling. Kojima himself likes PS VITA a lot and his test projects proves that. That tweet was just another trolling joke

[Gamesgbkiller]

OK guys ..
He said that on his twitter ..
I don't know if he is a fake or not.
Just saying .

[2pacalypsenow]

that would be sweet

[0pie]

what a stupid article, it has been announced as a xbox360/ps3 title with no mention of pc and vita...

[DonMingos]

It was also announced as being a new IP called The Phantom Pain, developed by Moby Dick Studios that is runned by Joakim Mogren...

So shall we believe everything they announced?

[shaun mcwayne]

joakim is an anagram of kojima, also i looked up his pic and its a bad photoshop of kojima with a hulk hogan tash.

[DonMingos]

@shaun mcwayne

I know that (by the way, that twitter account is fake, it isn't Kojima neither Joakim Mogren)
That's my point... that by now, we can't assume anything they told us is true

[modesign]

so ground zero, snake has both his arms, phantom pain (MGS5) he loses a arm and ends up in a hospital. and a huge fire whale eats helicopters.

[VonBraunschweigg]

jup

[Kingthrash360]

Nothin new to mgs, I mean vamp himself took a sniper bullet to the head in part two after running on water then takes another shot in the same spot in part 4 and still caught his cell phone before it hit the ground. So what's so bad about a missing hand? he prolly called ocelot's doctor to fix him up.

Note: been replaying mgs4 for the trophies, so vamp is on the mind... ( replaying also shows me how far ahead that game is... It still looks better than most new games.... I can't deny they have the talent to put phantom on the vita just looking at mgs4 is proof of that)

[porkChop]

They actually showed off a tech demo of MGS4 running in its entirety on the Vita, and they said they were able to do it in only a week. Imagine what they could do with a couple years, they could definitely make this work.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Liquid_Ocelot]

"Big Boss" please.. we dont want to confuse the kids now, do we? ;)

EDIT: agreed btw

[patriotZero]

No Ground Zeroes and Phantom PAin are the same game for PS3
But MGS V is vita V means Vita.Rome numbers never used in MGS games since the beginning. Vita needs games especially MGS to sell lots of Vita's.
The End, you'll see

[dafegamer]

i think you are into something. I cant believe that ive never noticed that

[tubers]

Not realistic.

Realistic = Remote Play.

[WeskerChildReborned]

If Vita can support graphics better than PS3 then i would be surprise but i seriously doubt this is a Vita title, what we saw was already confirmed to be on 360 and PS3 i think.

[MattyF]

Why does this site claim the screens released were at Vita native resolution when they are 1,280px × 720px?

[Kennytaur]

There were some images released almost in the Vitas resolution, but with like a 5 vertical pixel difference.

[SandWitch]

Pictures were changed into ones wih higher res later

[SandWitch]

Pictures were changed into ones with higher res later

[Kennytaur]

It isn't a PSV title, but a PSV MGS would be sweet!

[patriotZero]

we didn't see MGS V yet, Kojima will announce it in e3 2013, it's just a letters nothing more.

[meganick]

I could see this maybe being ported to Vita, but they would never make it a Vita exclusive, not with such a small install base of Vita owners, and the fact that all other numbered Metal Gears were console releases.

[Bradicas]

If that's a Vita game then ps3 has a another 6 years to reach full potential. That's a bad ass game running on a sweet pc.

[Slugg3r]

Exlusive MGS for PS Vita should sure do wonders for the Vita's install base. I can barely imagine what KP could do with Vita. Peace Walker was something I though could never be achieved on PSP.

[crackforgangstas]

Has anyone thought about Transfarring when he introduced it for the HD collection?? Kojima did say that he was planning to utilize it more in the future. Plus there are already PS3 games that you can play on Vita. So, Vita "Transfarring"?

[Der_Kommandant]

Playstation Vita is powerful, but not that powerful

[Haha123]

F*ck that!!!, rather play it on my TV!!

[Pillsbury1]

An mgs game on vita would be my wet dream so I hope a part of it is true. If not this game them I hope they are in development of SOME mgs game.

[Omnislash]

We dont even know if its MGS5, we dont know anything. It could very well be a vita spinoff.

[OmniSlashPT]

What if both Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are MGS5? And Kojima is just trolling everyone. Because it's kinda weird having 2 console MGS at the same time...and I would expect MGS5 next gen if Ground Zeroes was released next year.

No matter what the Phantom Pain is, Kojima is laughing his ass off with all this rumours and speculations :P

[Dark-soul]

do you think hideo is that stupid to release game on dying vita? when he can release on concoles and get x10 bigger profit, in the end its all about the money.

[Kingthrash360]

Yeah it about the money, that's precisely why it would come out on the vita... If.... And I do mean IF...this game were on vita every vita owner would buy.
Oh and the vita is very much alive it's the ps360 systems that are about to retire.

[Dark-soul]

even if every vita onwer would buy even x5 copies of a game, it would be much more profitable to release it on consoles.

[Kingthrash360]

@ dark soul
True it would, but he'd make even more if he has a title on vita that cross plays with the ps3 version...Oh wait he already said that's his intention.... I'm not saying THIS title is a vita title but I'm saying it dam well could be and he'd make more money than he did with this than peace walker... And that's saying alot.
All in all ill say this.... When mgs comes out for the vita it will be one of ... If not the best games on the system. HK always pushes things to the max, his team has always impressed and he likes his job. Mix that with the fact that he like the vita and we get a bar setting game for the vita. he has set the bar for all games whenever he puts out a mgs game. so is it possible its a vita game? hell yes, can he pull somethin like that off? Hell yes again, ground zeros is proof, It looks like a next gen game so I won't bet against him and his team of overly talented staff.
Would you?

[extermin8or]

usually i would agree with everyone but with the 1st gen vita games being the likes of uncharted, gravity rush and nfs mw: look what they acomplish and it can only go up as the devs get better at stuff. Pty slus the FOX engine was ssaid to run at about those visuals on all tested devices and that clearly includes the vita, so therefore I'd say it's unlikely but they have a point.

[GamingGuru]

I mean this game COULD be a candy bar.

But I seriously doubt candy technology has advanced this far.

[WitWolfy]

I wanted to say the same thing!

[nyobzoo]

I think it could come out for the Vita, maybe a little bit down graded but Kojima did say that the FOX engine was being used for Consoles and Vita, so a Vita version isn't out of the question

[MattyG]

I think there very well could be a weaker Vita version. And I only say that because of what Kojima said about Transfarring, otherwise I'd say no way.

[SwiftArsonist]

The possibility is there but for now ill go for current consoles.

[LNDCalling]

Ground Zeroes for 360 and Phantom Pain same game but for PS3 which will be interlinked with Metal Gear V for the Vita!

I can see something like this happening given Kojima's excitement at Vita and his comments previously about cross play!

Colour me excited whatever it is, at the end of the day its a game and I'm a gamer.. Result!! :-)

[JonnyBigBoss]

What a tragedy that would be.

[Sigh]

well it could be for PS3/Vita. Konami and Kojima weren't joking about the transfarring feature for some of their future games.

[nevin1]

Just curious.

Why isn't WiiU/3DS not in the MGS diccussion?

[PirateThom]

If you watch the trailer for Ground Zeroes, it doesn't mention Wii U anywhere and the "V" is a possible hint.

[WeskerChildReborned]

I think it was already confirmed to be on 360 and PS3 anyway.

[SPARDA_426]

Its also been confirmed to be a game called Phantom Pain- from Moby Dick Studios. Not everything is factual, like the trailer said, " OPEN YOUR EYES, ALREADY"

[Nodoze]

If so Kojima and co can count on a VERY small fraction of what the game would have sold on the PS3.

This would NOT be a good move for them. To have it on both, sure, but only on Vita would be a big mistake.

[ApexHell]

if it was kojima is a wizard

[ooquis]

The man's got some valid point.

[Protagonist]

PS Vita and PS3 cross-play/transfarring.

[skyrimer]

One point in favor of this game being possible on Vita, other than a full MGS4 demo running on Vita when it wasn't developed for it, is that even though graphics look incredible, all environments are really small, just small empty rooms, hallways with very few details, the kind of low geometry that with good shaders and lighting could look this good on Vita. Ground Zeroes is impossible due to it's expansive environment, but Phantom Heroes, not so much. For example, look what the 3ds was able to do on small environments with Resident Evil, it looked awesome on a a way less powerful device.

Besides, Famitsu is teasing a "surprising" update on MGS on their next issue.

http://gamingeverything.com...

The latest Famitsu is teasing a surprising update on Metal Gear Solid for its next issue. This week’s teaser page says that fans of the series can look forward to “something surprising” regarding Konami and Kojima Production’s IP.

As far as we can tell, the notice doesn’t provide any hints as to what is planned.

The magazine will officially go on sale on December 20. But, as always, news will begin to leak out next Tuesday night.

Could it really happen?

[ziggurcat]

*sigh*

again with the stupid ****ing moronic theories. MGS5 isn clearly not going to be a vita title.

[BLUElightCory]

The Moby Dick "website" has XBox 360 / PS3 logos on it.

[mrbojingles]

Yes because making a big budget game for a console that can barely push 11k units a week in Japan during the friggin' holidays and is doing terrible elsewhere is a good idea.

It's not like there is two HD consoles with a combined user base of 140 million they could make more money off of,... wait a second!

But seriously folks it's not for Vita. iPhone, 3DS, PC would even make more sense. Actually even PSP would make a lot of sense. But that footage looks like PS3/360

[DonMingos]

It's not about the money... it's about Kojima making is magic the way he wants to... if he were all about the money, then MGS4 would have been multiplatform, since the PS3 user base on 2008 was far smaller than the 360...

[MrJonathan]

Definitely not a Vita title.