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Why Valve's 'Steam Box' PC-Console Will Be A Game Changer

forbes.com: When Newell declared Windows 8 a “catastrophe” and Valve announced their adoption of Linux, a Steam-based console seemed all but inevitable. Big Picture mode, Linux, lots of hardware accessories, and a bunch of people at Valve talking up the importance of living room-based gaming…the next logical step is a machine to pull it all together.

Godchild10204151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Every new console is a " Game Changer" but how much will it change the game?

We had PS3/360 from PS2/Xbox that welcomed us to the HD era and Blu-ray. The Wii from the N64, that welcomed us to motion controls. The WiiU/Phones/Tablets that welcomed us to touch screen gaming.

I'm sure big picture mode would be something and do wonders, but if its no different from playing on a Big screen TV, its not much of a game changer. I'm going to look up more info about Big Picture Mode before digging myself in a hole, due to the lack of information.

dedicatedtogamers4151d ago

Two of the biggest hurdles against PC gaming "on the couch" have been addressed here: controller support and big-screen-TV compatibility. Of course, PC gamers have been able to get around these issues for years, but a dedicated box may be the last push console-only gamers need to jump in to Steam and PC gaming.

Two of the biggest hurdles against the console digital download market have been size of hard drives and a workable UI to organize a person's games. Steambox would be a huge upgrade for people accustomed to digital downloads on consoles.

For PC gamers, Steambox won't mean anything. However, to console-only gamers who haven't dipped their toes into the PC gaming waters yet, Steambox could be huge.

darthv724151d ago

somehow reminds me of that APEX system Via tried to market many years ago. it was essentially a PC in a box that looked like any other type of home entertainment equipment.

It was supposed to be able to allow any PC game (at that time) to be played on a tv using a traditional controller (included). If anything MS and the original xbox is a good example of a successful PC/console hybrid as it was pc parts in a console case.

Troble with those would likely be the same trouble for the steam-box. That is, Pc game development would continue to exceed the specs of a closed design and that console version would not be up to par with a real PC that can be adapted to play because of their modular and interchangeable parts.

If the steam box wants to sell, it wont be modular but more like a simple box that would have internal limits. Im sure valve would do their part to try and ensure that the box is capable of playing titles that are currently available to the service but dont expect to play watch dogs on it at the same fidelity of a high end pc. It would play but obviously be at the mercy of the hardware inside.

Valve is like SNK in a way. They made games for years and now want to make a dedicated platform. In fact, there have been many game only companies that tried their hand at hardware. Sega, Namco, Sony...

Nintendo was one of them if you can believe that. Before the NES, they made games for arcade and licensed their games to other platforms but then the idea of making their own system changed things.

MikeMyers4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

What we need is a console like experience without all the politics. Look at the updates on Steam and how quickly they get approved and how they don't cost an arm and a leg like on the Xbox 360. Or how Playstation Network has scheduled maintenance and large patches that take away precious time. I don't know how many times I turn on my PS3 if I haven't used it for awhile and having to wait for some system update or the game to be patched. Things are much quicker on the Xbox 360 but you have to pay to play online or the developers have to pay for fixes to be approved.

How many games support mods on consoles? Valve gets it because they don't have so many divisions and managers to go through. They also get it because the people at Valve all get their hands dirty. If they can take away the complexity of PC gaming and make it like a console experience then the others better watch out. The other big factor, that Steam won't really be able to do much about, are the exclusives. The problem is those companies have to absorb the costs and by only having a limited amount of gamers to sell to will be a hard business model to sustain while costs keep rising.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Only thing I can say is that it's valve..

Who else can make a Goty contender puzzle game? Who else offers free cloud saving, voting for what game you feel should be in the store, encourages user content, will most likely have you donwload mods straight to your console/pc?

HL3 will be amazing like there service & I have faith in them to make a great pc like console.

Just like I assume Naughty Dog games will be good I assume Valve will provide a great service. They have a good track record.

Valve never really does anything unless they bring something fresh. Remember they patented bio feedback controllers?

Also this is how weird they can get.
“I’ve signed an NDA so I can’t reveal much more. I’ll just say that I really saw the future. (it’s not a small deal to see a virtual but highly realistic alien stand beside a real human in the same room with you, walk around the room and wink at you. And all that without a screen, a projector or even a computer near you…)”
http://www.vg247.com/2012/1...
O_o

Their biggest challenge is the lack of brand recognition.

I hope they will have there own e3 conference.
They will most like do some crazy things between console and pc games. And this could also mean no more bad pc ports. since well it's a pc to pc port? or no port just pc version?

Source 2 in development for a while now + steam box = might work .

lol Now will EA bring a origin box?

iamnsuperman4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

"Rather than have complicated specs determine whether a game would run on your machine, games could run on Steam Box 2 and up, or Steam Box 3 and up (similar to iOS games.) This standardization and simplification of PC gaming would be a huge benefit to many consumers and developers alike, while not really impacting more “hardcore” PC gamers."

I don't think value is mainstream enough to be able to release steam box 2,3,4....quite so quickly form each other. They are not apple. In terms of apple their games work across all devices because the jump is pretty much nothing which is why the app side of the thing works (some apps will have loading issues on older devices). I think saying this game works with steam box 1 and this game works with steam box 1,2,3 could get confusing to the average consumer if these releases are in a short time span.

My main concern is it going to be digital only. Obviously steam is digital but what shops are going to stock this device if it is digital only (no extra return for them). Also how easy is it going to be to upgrade? Will it confuse the average consumer? So much more information is needed to judge if it is really going to be a game changer because the market is the non PC crowd and the average consumer is what makes a "game changer"

dirthurts4151d ago

To someone who buys all of their games digital (online), what's buying the hardware online to them?
Anyone who would be initially interested in this (pc gamers, steam fans) is obviously going to be an online shopper anyway.

iamnsuperman4151d ago

why are PC gamers going to get this if they have a rig all ready.

Eldyraen4151d ago

@Iamnsuperman: That's a valid point but think in most ways this is targeting more console/casual PC users than the hardcore PC gamer anyways. Even today not everyone has a PC, and definitely not a gaming rig--even an older one as strong as consoles today.

What we know about steam box is even less than rumors surrounding next gen consoles though. More than likely Valve isn't directly competing for console market anyways and is more for a streamlined, intro to PC gaming sort of plan. In recent years more and more console market base has been turning towards the PC again and something like this could further revive/strengthen PC gaming markets if they market it right.

What they really need is to find a strong distribution/marketing partnership. Valve is a great gaming name but outside of gamers it doesn't have the same recognition as Sony, Microsoft, or even Nintendo (it may be "gaming" but its been a household name for decades).

sorceror1714151d ago

I suspect that there will be a "Steam Box" *standard* that other companies can build to (and pay Valve to get certified for). People will be able to buy a Valve-branded one, or other options (up to a full PC).

ginsunuva4151d ago

Either they redesign the steambox specs every 2 years or it will just become another console. That's the dilemma.

Dno4151d ago

not if every single game can be played on my PC. cause i got a monster PC so i am not gonna get this when ill just get a ps4 instead

dirthurts4151d ago

The "monster pc" gamer isn't the target audience here.

Dno4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

right which is why i added the ps4 part. the people they are targetting are getting a ps4, xbox next, wii u, vita, 3ds.

No room for a system that plays PC games only which can be played on the PC.

aquamala4151d ago

I have a htpc that pretty much like this, connects to my tv just like consoles and use a Xbox controller, and play steam games. But not everyone can/want to build a pc, it's great they can just buy from Valve

Npugz74151d ago

Mehh! I will stick with the Xbox 720

MagneticDeath4151d ago

Launch with half life 3 and instantly sell millions.

Dojan1234151d ago

That is the plan. I will be shocked if it does not release with HL3. I suspect it will come with all their games.

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Team Fortress: Source 2 and Portal 64 Fan Projects Shut Down by Valve Takedowns

Fan projects Team Fortress: Source 2 and Portal 64 have shut down after Valve intervened in their development.

-Foxtrot103d ago

First they open Steam up to more AI, now they are shutting down fan projects when at one time they used to support or even give the fans jobs.

Wonder what's going on with Valve at the minute.

rlow1103d ago

@Foxtrot
It’s called money plain and simple.

JEECE102d ago

I mean, that might explain the Team Fortress 2 thing, because Valve might bring that to Source 2 (though I'm not sure I'd bet on that), but I can't see how Portal 64 hurts them. If anything, it's more attention to the Portal and therefore Valve/Steam.

Giblet_Head102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

There's potential that Valve had already planned to bring Source 2 to TF2 officially after Counter Strike 2. It's been getting some renewed attention lately.

Inverno102d ago

You got Nintendo to thank for Portal64 being taken down. As for TF2, most likely it's due to the probability of Valve working on a source 2 port themselves. It's sucks but Nintendo are the biggest pricks in the business and not letting this drag out into a huge court drama is the best decision.

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Valve Opens the Floodgates to Allow More AI Based Games on Steam

Valve has updated its stance on AI games on the Steam storefront, allowing creators to publish AI-created games.

Droppedez103d ago

AI is just another form of slavery for our computer brethren.

Barlos102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

Hell no. I want games that have been made by creative minds who have a passion for their craft, not a bot with a penchant for plagiarism.

BrainSyphoned102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

So instead of paying for an engine and assets to create a game they are paying for an engine and assets to create a game.

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Valve Tells Players To Stop Inhaling Steam Deck Vent Fumes

Valve has officially warned against inhaling the Steam Deck vent fumes in an official response due to potential health hazards.

gold_drake128d ago

my god, people are so dumb these days.

shinoff2183128d ago

I read the headline to my girl and she even reacted wtf is wrong with people. People wild

Notellin126d ago

I feel bad for her that she can't read and needs you to do it for her. Keep your head up!

shinoff2183126d ago

Notellin, I've been teaching her 😘

Jin_Sakai127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

This generation is about dumb as it gets.

frostypants127d ago

Huffing things isn't new to be fair.

SavageFlamingo127d ago

This has nothing to do with generations. It’s not a stupid challenge or anything. People just happened to smell it while they were playing. The steam deck exhaust is easy to smell without even trying. Just playing it you’ll smell it in the air around you.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro126d ago

"tHiS gEErAtIoN"
It's every generation, today you just see it more clearly thanks to internet.

k2d127d ago

To be fair, I loved the smell of glue, gas and certain plastics as a kid (new disc cartridges/new hardware, anyone?)

Si-Fly126d ago

Instruction manuals for me, best smell ever 😂

crazyCoconuts127d ago

I actually take a whiff of it once in a while, it's funny that it smells so good lol

DarXyde127d ago

Tide pod fiasco all over again

Felix_Argyle_Catbro126d ago

"tHeSe DaYs"
People have been just as dumb in the past, you just see it clearly now thanks to the internet.

gold_drake126d ago

thanks for that .. insight. ha.

rlow1126d ago

Well good thing about dumb people, they play an important part in human history. How else do we know which plants, animals and foods ar dangerous? Dumb people! They pay the price so the rest of us don’t have to. Lol

FinalFantasyFanatic126d ago

Honestly, I'm not even surprised considering some of the people I come across these days, inhaling fumes would explain a lot of things.

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Knightofelemia128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

Wow people will huff anything nowadays some people just have way too much time on their hands.

Abnor_Mal127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Another reason to love the PlayStation Portal, no chance of breathing in noxious vapors.

Get a Steam Deck they said, to which I reply, what are you high?

KwietStorm_BLM127d ago

Were you high when you typed this?

Abnor_Mal127d ago

Sorry bud no Steam Deck here.

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FinalFantasyFanatic126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Even the Steam Deck does streaming better than the Portal (they portal is capped for streaming for some reason, whereas the Steam Deck isn't).

Neonridr126d ago

imagine pretending a glorified streaming device is better than a stand alone unit that can also, stream.

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Eonjay127d ago

Stand by for the 'gaming kills' articles.
Que Halloween movie theme.

Nucleux127d ago

What does it smell/taste like?

Barlos127d ago

Better than the Switch cartridges is my guess.

Just to be clear, I've never licked a Switch cartridge, nor have I inhaled my deck's fumes.

Profchaos127d ago

Same never licked a switch cart I've always been worried more about where it's been than the taste but

Fluke_Skywalker127d ago

It smells good, that's the problem lol. When I first turned mine on I noticed it 😅
Better stop sniffing it then.

Barlos126d ago

I've had my deck for over a year, I've never been compelled to put my nose near the vent for a good lungful 😂

crazyCoconuts127d ago

I can't explain it... It smells...new

SavageFlamingo127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Kind of like cheap bacon cooking. Even cheap bacon smells good.

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