WiiU Hacked By fail0verflow

hacker and mod-chip developer Marcan42 of fail0verflow has shared a Wii U teaser video via 0xf0f on YouTube demonstrating The Homebrew Channel below.

Keep in mind that this is purely a demonstration at this stage. Depending on how things progress and what direction development takes, we may or may not release something like this in this form. Please don't ask for release dates. We'd rather spend time investigating the new system than putting together a release that may or may not end up being the Right Way to do things in the future.

[Jadedz]

Hopefully it won't extend to software piracy for the Wii U.

[majiebeast]

Where there is homebrew there is piracy its just a matter of time before it happens sad as that is.

[3GenGames]

Unlesss Nintendo would have gave them easier access to Homebrewing programs on it. It's not their fault they have to crack it wide open to get what they want. PS3 was only hacked because they removed the tools they were using to program the PS3 without pirating. Sony removed them, and they did what they were forced. Crack the system wide open. Not any bodies fault but their own.

http://youtu.be/4loZGYqaZ7I...

The guys who hacked the system also agree.

Is it the provoker or the provoked who is to blame? Exactly.

[mandf]

@3gengames

First off the Ps3 wasn't hacked. The keys were stolen and given out on the internet. To this day you can't hack a Ps3 that is over firmware 3.55. Having a key is not a hack.

[HammadTheBeast]

@3gengames

Honestly, it wasn't ever about the OtherOS. If people wanted that, it's basically free on PC's and any PC can run it.

[rainslacker]

@3Gen

If it was about homebrew...which I believe it is with actual homebrew people, how do you explain why people are trying to hack the Vita. They offer the tools required to run homebrew software on the system, yet just last month we got a report that someone has started to open up the system.

I believe the homebrewers in general actually do it for the reasons you state, unfortunately their methods lead to others with less desirable intentions to break open the system and allow piracy. Because of that, if they weren't just in it for themselves, they would be more responsible with how they present these things to the market. I'd like to think this guy saying "Is it the right way to release it to the market" means that they are looking at a way to prevent their methods from allowing someone to open the system up to piracy, but that isn't likely the case.

Also, wasn't it not too long ago that the courts saw a strong correlation between homebrew leading to piracy, thus jail breaking a PS3 is not legal? Your arguments are nothing new, and restating them doesn't change how these things happen.

[guitarded77]

Well, maybe it will lead to Nintendo taking the Nintendo Network more seriously, and patching Wii U to play Wii, Wii Ware and Virtual Console games directly from the Wii U interface instead of having to switch to Wii mode. It's a major pain for the user, so I hope this is a major pain for Nintendo so they will make the necessary changes to make playing older titles less cumbersome. Oh, and I still want trophies/achievements damn't, so if Nintendo refuses to implement a system, maybe home developers will.

[blackbeld]

WiiU will sell millions again just like the Wii cause its been hacked.

[profgerbik]

Nope, the Vita has all the homebrew it wants but it has not be pirated yet because the only damn leak in the system was actually shared with Sony by the hackers that figured it out.

Almost all the people who have homebrewed the Vita all say it's impossible to pirate games on it anymore because of that leaking info, plus the way the Vita was made, they made sure to make it extremely hard in almost every aspect.

Maybe the Wii U could end up in the same position but it seems like Nintendo system have always been the easiest to pirate on or emulate..

Obviously.. I mean god damn this was fast they hacked the Wii U, I don't even think they did the Vita that fast to be dead serious. Just goes to show how easy it must be to hack Nintendo systems.

As much as I love piracy simply because I wouldn't even be who I am today if it didn't exist or at least know half of what I do, I do hate to see systems like this abused by it.

I also hope like the Vita, someone if they do figure out how to pirate games on the Wii U is willing to hand it over to Nintendo, thing is the Vita only had one hole to pirate games which Sony is now aware thanks to a rogue hacker who wasn't happy with it and has fixed it, I am not sure how many options are available with the Wii U, if there is more that isn't good.

Best of luck Nintendo, even though I don't really care for you all anymore or your devices, I still hate to see anyone have their business compromised like this.

I guess it's not official yet though so no need to worry right now but honestly at this rate, it really isn't looking good, if it has been this easy for them so far.

[mushroomwig]

You know it will, since when did homebrew not lead to software piracy?

[3GenGames]

When the PS3 was running Ubuntu an they were programming games for it that way. Once they started to access more of the GPU, Sony shut them out because they didn't want that. So they hacked it and did it anyway and everyone lost.

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Sony and Nintendo are games companies. They lose money on consoles. If Linux developers want to make games they can use the Ouya.

[Crazay]

Ya clearly it won't ever extend to piracy.

***facepalm***

[SilentNegotiator]

Oh look, overflow hacked something without stolen keys! Good for them!

fffffffrrrrt.

[showtimefolks]

This could be bad news or good depending on which side are you with. If this wads to piracy than bad but hopefully Nintendo has leaned something from ms and Sony and can mve fast on some the issues and patch the system on time

[LOL_WUT]

Already? Damn that was quick! I wonder what Nintendo has to say about this.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Well it was bound to happen but this was earlier than I expected.

[Venoxn4g]

thats for Wii mode only I think so, but still :)

[Qrphe]

Nope, the homebrew channel is ran from the Wii U menu.

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Nintendo only really would lose money with the hacked Basic models since they don't come with a game for them to profit from.

If you hack a Wii U for free games the real loser would be you (why not buy a cheaper Wii and hack it instead), else enjoy backing up your Wii games, imported games, and DVDs on the Wii U.

[ZeroX9876]

nope, it IS run on wii menu

http://gbatemp.net/threads/...

Doesn't have access to wii U nand yet. BUT it could be a door to another exploit. but seriously, it could have an impact on third party support if the console gets hacked right away.

[Godmars290]

How long has this thing been out again?

[Crazay]

These guys that crack protections on consoles, DVD etc etc are sharp dudes. Can't help but wonder what they do for work in real life using their obviously incredible talents for the greater good somewhere.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

They work for nintendo america....

[cleft5]

Should be fun to watch Nintendo go after these people. They are going to make the Geohot situation with Sony feel like child's play.

[cee773]

just like they did with the wii right? which is hacked in its entirety this is nintendo's fault for using dated architecture that has the same vulnerabilities as its predecessor they basically used the same exploit from the wii. piracy could run rampant and scare devs away.

this is not good news for nintendo

[cleft5]

You aren't wrong about the Wii, but it looks like Nintendo is really trying to up the stakes with this new console. I don't think we will see a docile Nintendo that just sits back and let there console get hacked without fighting it. Instead we are going to see mandatory console updates online and included with the games. I definitely see Nintendo going after this guy or anyone like him. But only time will tell.

[rainslacker]

It's hard to say, since we don't know how much they would lose to piracy. With the PSP, piracy helped sell systems, but software attach rate was very low, so there was a definite correlation to software sales and piracy which ultimately affected us, the end consumer, with a utter lack of development interest in the system.

However with the PS2, piracy was also an issue. I used to install mod chips before I had a change of heart and realized it was wrong. However attach rate on the PS2 was still high, so it's hard to determine if piracy really affected software sales that much. I would assume that it did to some degree because Sony did go after one mod chip maker, don't know what became of the case though.

I also don't know how much piracy affected the Wii attach rate, since their target audience wasn't prone to playing lots of games, which means they weren't likely technically up to par with how to do such things anyways (even being an easy thing to do). On top of that they may have been people with more morals than people who call themselves gamers, yet don't see the need to actually support the industry they love so much.

I think if developers begin to shy away from the system because of piracy concerns, it may force Nintendo's hand into legal action. However by then it may be too late, and honest consumers will end up getting the shaft.

[turgore]

Nothing too interesting. It only works for outdated wii games.

[coolasj]

Nintendo REALLY didn't try to stop them did they? I mean that took... what? 2 weeks?

[Drainage]

so....wii u hacked, lets start up a wii game and test it out. yea who cares.

[MegaLagann]

So when a Wii U game doesn't come to my region I don't have to buy a European/Japanese Wii U just to play it? Well good.

[Qrphe]

Sorry if many of you lose sleep over this, it must be hard being a corporatist supporter.

Who cares if they hack the Wii U!
1) You and many will still support Nintendo by buying games regardless
2) Hackers would have never bought the games they pirate (usually end up acting as publicity even)
3) They're ALWAYS a small minority

[rainslacker]

PSP says Hi. To say piracy doesn't hurt a system or the honest game buyer is closing your eyes to the fact that developers won't make games for a system if they think they will lose too much to piracy.

While you and many others may turn a blind eye to pirates, they do effect the development cycle. Whether or not publishers actually lose money or not isn't the issue, the fact is that the publisher believes they won't make money, possibly due to piracy, which in turns affects us.

[Qrphe]

Oh please let us not blame the death in the West of the PSP on piracy. Did the easy-to-hack DS die due to piracy? Did the Wii? Did the PS1?
Is piracy really to blame for the death of the DreamCast?

The average consumer has no idea how to hack. You won't see the soccer moms who buy Wii Us for their kids buy them with that purpose in mind.

Most important of them all, the undoubtedly most piracy-ridden system out of them all, PC, still has the most developer-support out there (Steam has sure tanked due to piracy hasn't it?).

[j4re]

I think proprietary memory cards hurt handhelds. Give it a break already Sony.

[rainslacker]

Umm, well when both Sony and developers say it's a problem and won't release their games on it because of the extremely high piracy rates of the system, then yes, I do blame piracy.

Your second paragraph is the reason the DS and the Wii do not suffer from piracy.

The PS1 didn't suffer as much as the PSP because during it's time, while easy to hack (99% just needed disc swapping), easy access to the tools and ISO's required to pirate(burn) games was just not there for all but the most technically minded, and even then download rates weren't up to speed for large discs. Piracy was a big enough problem on the PS2, but because of it's massive install base there was still money to be made, and developers weren't given much choice if they wanted to sell games.

The Dreamcast? Not sure where you got that being a cause of the DC death. Sega did a lot of things wrong before it came out, did things wrong with it's launch, and did things wrong during it's lifetime. Not sure that piracy had any effect that wasn't already in the cards for that system, and this is the first time I've heard of it being a cause of it's demise.

As far as the PC. There are a lot of people willing to pay for the products they use. PC's install base is massive. It dwarves all the other systems combined. Even if not all of them are gaming PC's, the install base is basically the same principal as what Sony had with the PS2.

I'm not a corporate loyalist. But it irritates me to know that so many people turn a blind eye to piracy and completely ignore what it does to the industry, all while saying "people still buy games, it's no big deal".

[Hicken]

And what good will this serve again?

Oh, yeah: none.

I really don't get why they keep doing this crap. More importantly, why publicize it? For all the claims of "doing it fir the people," it really just makes things worse.

fail overflow, indeed. I hope Nintendo goes after them and puts a stop to this.

[Unlimax]

The Wii U get hacked so early while Nintendo fellas having fun with their own life's xD !

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photo...

:3

[Shnazzyone]

Uh oh, someone got smashstack to run on wii U. It seems to get just homebrew on. No confirmation of full functionality. However 1080p upscaled emulation is quite the tempting option.

However this isn't hacking wii U just yet. This is simply showing the wii emulation is so exact that homebrew install methods seem to still work. Unless this is shown on the wii U part and not the wii part of the system. I consider this not exactly confirmation of a fully successful hack yet.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Hacking is so lame. If you enjoy video games why hurt the industry? These people make me sick.

[ajax17]

What took you so long!? Just kidding... I couldn't hack something to save my life.

[ajax17]

WiiU Hacked By fail0verflow -- source: ps3news.com lol

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

at least I know Ill be able to play brawl minus and project M on wiiU soon.

[Silly gameAr]

Failoverflow. Still f' ing game experiences for everyone. We already know what this will lead to.

[killatia]

What I'm seeing its just hacking the Wii menus as if it was a Wii system judging by how they are installing the homebrew channel. Its not actually hacking the Wii U itself.

[Gigglefist]

Can't hackers come up with good names? You know, like without "1337 Speak"?
It's not clever and makes them seem childish.

[FantasyStar]

says the guy with an MLP avatar and username.

[WheatBread]

Time to buy a Wii U

[Orionsangel]

Already? Hahaha! Nintendo's security is a joke!

[ziggurcat]

*sigh*

this is precisely why we can't have nice things...

piracy... sorry, i mean "homebrew"... will only run amok and ruin it for everyone else when nintendo starts cracking down on that nonsense.

[nintendoland]

People just don't get it that this is just like old wii hack. Doesn't mean anything

[AllroundGamer]

well lastgen hardware will be hacked more quickly...

[JohnDread]

Geez...everyone knows the Wii Mode is a really basic Wii emulator app on the WiiU. It's literally the same thing as the Wii OS, so of course the same exploits work there. Don't jizz your pants just yet...

[bozebo]

I wonder if it will be easy to emulate the Wii-U like Nintendo's previous consoles. Probably not with the eDRAM setup, but maybe.

[lfclee]

There bunch of cheapskates hacking consoles and ruining it for good people who like paying and looking forward to release dates on there consoles, they got nothing better to do, they have hacked the ps3 and the xbox 360 and lost the industry we love millions of dollars.

[Tdmd]

Already?? That was fast...

[BertlSenix]

The only system ever that did hold out long is the PS3
360,WiiU,PS2,PS1 all got hacked in a few weeks - For the PS3 it took years and still isn't a common thing like it is with every other system.
Probably one of the weak points of the PS3 cause its no secret the PS2 had such big success or rather lets say had so much advantages cause of piracy.

[illidari]

The vita is homebrew friendly but you guys didn't develop crap for it. Oh wait, I forgot, thats an excuse to steal shit.

[-Gespenst-]

But they've managed to make the 3ds virtually inpenetrable, why couldn't they use similar methods for the Wii U?

[taquito]

sweet, hopefully dolphin like emulators get out soon, i hate playing in sub-hd 720p with jaggies

thats what ps3/360 are for, i expected more from wii u, at least on pc i will be able to play the games in 1080p with 8x aa

and i buy or already own all the games i emulate and own the system, a stupid game is not worth a virus on my freaking awesome pc, or some huge fine for piracy imo, lol...or waiting days for some huge file to download only to find out its just a bunch of crap.....piracy is for turds!

when there are a few more great titles for the wii u i will buy one to support nintendo and i will buy the games to support the devs, but you can bet your ass if i can play them on pc in 1080p, AT 60 frames with great anti aliasing, that sure as heck is going to be the way i play it!

this could be good think

tech savy people like having devices they can personalize and control

consoles are hardcore drm, plain and simple, they lock you in to their draconian rules and standards

homebrew and hacks open the platform up to people who want more possibilities

yes, this will also lead to piracy, but, you can pirate 360 games and wii games super easy, 95% of people don't bother risking viruses and court fines, its easier to just buy the damn game, heck, wait for a sale, thats what i do, i hate paying $65 for something unless its going to be amzazing.

[DiGiTaL]

Yes apparently a lot of people on these forums and that video have not actually watched the video.... The HBC was installed to WII MODE not WiiU so no WIIU is not hacked please downvote this crap cause it is misleading news. Anyone here could install HBC on their WII side of the WiiU. But still funny to see people getting excited over nothing....

[Pillsbury1]

Hackers gonna hack.

[deletingthis34675334]

Stupid hackers like this need to get out of the basement and get a life.

[LordHiggens]

Sharing is caring...my best wishes for your work ladies and/or gentlemen.

[DarkZane]

It's not hacked, they just used the Wii emulator to run Wii software. No need to wait for them to release it, it litterally use the same exploits as the Wii to get it working.

Using the brawl exploit, it's easy to install this.

[WrongC]

Oh come on what Marcan42 said it's totaly wrong, stop listen him... check at this http://translate.google.com... http://shownab.wordpress.co... http://shownab.wordpress.co...

So please stop bring false information, even it claim to be a hacker and all... doesn't mean that he know everything so stop with false information like that...

[tommygunzII]

We cant have anything nice. Once hackers are caught their details should be made public, names and addresses.

[hAck3r7]

I love piracy its good for the industry !!