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Wii U 'profitable after one game purchase'

Nintendo has said its loss-making Wii U swings to profit with just a single game purchase along with the console.

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TheLyonKing4167d ago

Very strange margin but if true then it can't be much but a profit is still a profit I guess no matter how small.

victoryscreeeeeech4167d ago

because a profit's a profit, no matter how small.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I hope ps4 takes a year to be profitable. I want more power and a good price.

Ninty just used cheap hardware obviously. But still good business strategy.

Deku-Johnny4167d ago

As Tesco would say "Every little helps".

AWBrawler4167d ago

And we all know a new 2D Mario is gauranteed to sell big. They pretty much made their money back already lol

eagle214167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

Exactly, NSMBW sold 26 million copies...multiply that by around $40 to $49 and you can see that this game alone makes Nintendo so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

FinalomegaS4167d ago

does that include nintendoland bundled?

if so then that would be smart.

TruthbeTold4167d ago

Why not? The Basic is $300, the Deluxe is $350, and comes with a game, a larger SD card, a bunch of extra plastic, the color most people want, and a deal on downloadable games. If you were to buy the basic and Nintendo Land, you're already at Deluxe cost. It's probably the Basic that they lose money on.

Hicken4167d ago

Why wouldn't they have said this earlier? I mean, we've known for quite a while that they were taking a loss on each system; wouldn't that have been a good time to add in, "Oh, but we make that loss back if they buy just ONE game?"

I'm confused as to why they would wait so long to announce this.

beerkeg4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

Why do they NEED to announce this? Does it really matter to you?

EDIT:'I want to know how much of a profit do they make off a game and is it any game of just their first party titles? '

Why, are you going to make some pie charts?

SilentNegotiator4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

They're called investors. Ever heard of them?

Nintendo is publicly traded. Investors would have liked to have known that there's a profit after ONE game.

beerkeg4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I didn't know Hicken was an investor.

EDIT:@Godchild1020

Fair enough.

SilentNegotiator4167d ago

You wouldn't need to.

Nintendo should be keeping their investors informed regardless of whether Hicken is an investor or not.

rainslacker4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

Not sure of the exact numbers for how much they make off a game, but logic would dictate that they would make more off a 1st party title since they do not have to pay licensing cost and since they are also the publisher they get the entire profit from the game. If the game were published by 3rd party all they would receive is the licensing cost. Those costs vary depending on the game and publisher and what kinds of deals they may have with them, among many other factors.

It's good for them though, since it's likely that everyone will buy at least one game with their new system. This console isn't really an alternative for media uses IMO, so people wouldn't be buying it just to use as a blu-ray player the way some were for the PS3 at launch.

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Godchild10204167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I want to know how much of a profit do they make off a game and is it any game of just their first party titles?

How much was the lost on the Wii U, not much I guess? Anyway congratulations Nintendo.

@above, no pie chart. Just a general question. The question is not only towards Nintendo, but to Sony and Microsoft. Also Nintendo profit loss on each Wii U sold couldn't be that big unless their selling their games at a higher profit margin. That's why I ask, because all I have is speculations.

I'm a business/Psychology major, so I ask these questions often.

badz1494167d ago

they announced this quite awhile back but I'm not so sure it was officially from Nintendo or some other websites were reporting it but this is not really "new"! but I can't find the source though

Syntax-Error4167d ago

Any under-powered system can be sold for a profit at $300. Current gen is more powerful than this next gen product, so why shouldn't they make a profit. You're the fool if you feel you need this backward technological mistake. Either that or you're just as bad as Apple whores

lilbroRx4167d ago

Unlike fanboys of the HD twins, Nintendo fans don't care who has the biggest numbers. Mario Galaxy 2 had great graphics and it didn't need HD to achieve them. Same with The Last Story and Xenoblade.

Nintendo makes its system to meet its requirements. The only way the system would be "underpowered" is if it couldn't do the things Nintendo wanted it to.

Nintendo is actually taking its customers finacial situations into account. That is why they try to make it consume little power and cost less. Also, I don't need 3 of the same damn system.

If all I wanted was power I would stick to the PC. Nintendo is the only company offering me something I can't get anywhere else.

ThePsychoGamer4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

"Unlike fanboys of the HD twins, Nintendo fans don't care who has the biggest numbers."

Oh, that must be why Nintendo fans on this site where constsitly talking about how powerful the system would be over the last year, cause they didn't care. /s

Nintendo fanboys play the number game just as much as any other fanboy, be it with specs or sales.

"Nintendo is the only company offering me something I can't get anywhere else."

If you honestly believe that Nintendo is the only company that offer unique experiences, then you yourself are a blind fanboy. Yakuza, LittleBigPlanet, Neptunia, Region Free gaming, and Uncharted, Journy, Heavy Rain all deliver great experiences unlike anything else offered by the PS3, And at the same time, Gears of War, Halo, Deadly Premintion, Infinite Undiscovery, and Blue Dragon are all experiences that unique to the 360

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.