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PlayStation 3: The Final Hack

EG writes "Trouble for Sony as new custom firmware and security keys are released."

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Tired4194d ago

Ah crap...and so it begins...

GribbleGrunger4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

A sensible comment from someone who knows what they're talking about:

'I think Sony are laughing their butts off. The CFW that is out is bricking a lot of 3.55 PS3's - the only people who would benefit from this leak are those who already have CFW installed. Newer PS3's have lv0.2 which can't be cracked (the private keys are with Sony and no where else) so can't go to 3.55 to get the CFW.

So we have pirates who have no real change, they just have an update to their CFW, normal users who can't use the CFW and pirates who have now lost their pride and joy, their 3.55 PS3's so will have to get it repaired or spend a fortune on a used fat with 3.55.

Sony will have learnt a lot about security with the PS3 though so the PS4 should be very secure, I'll be very surprised if it's ever hacked unless Sony make a major mistake with the software or hardware that gives an attack vector.'

It's a hack of a hack people. So only those that have already hacked the PS3 can use it.

shoddy4194d ago

These day hacking any device isn't really beneficial.

They all have fw update wich is a pain in the buttock to keep up.

I still waiting for IOS 6 jailbreak and unlock.

TronEOL4194d ago

See, this sort of works two ways. This whole hacking thing sucks horribly (or at least did) for normal users who just want to play and enjoy video games (you know, the reason Sony makes PlayStation), but, it also allows Sony to beef up their security. To say the PS4 won't be hacked, tho, is kind of unrealistic.

It may last longer than the PS3 did (which was very long, and only hacked because something was stolen, which is illegal), but someone will get it eventually.

kane_13714194d ago

I doubt they will make it easy for PS4 to be hacked at all.
The PS Vita is pretty much impossible, why should PS4 be any less

guitarded774194d ago

@ shoddy

Exactly. If some of these guys have such a passion for running custom software for specific hardware, then build a custom PC and go crazy with Linux. If you buy a console, or phone or whatever, they are designed to perform specific tasks implemented by the designers... So we purchase those consoles, phones, etc because we want access to those services on that design. If these hack/crackers are so brilliant, there is an entire industry in which they can work and bring their constructive ideas to life. I can certainly appreciate pressing the envelope to tear through the abstractions of hardware v software, but if it's just about free games and phone calls then the hack/cracker in that case is nothing more than a thief with too much knowledge.

Autodidactdystopia4194d ago

Man you guys get worked up over the dumbest shit.

sony will fix whatever the problem is and ittle be over with.

people are gonna do what people are gonna do. nothing whining can do to stop it.

andibandit4194d ago

I guess we all knew the PS3 would face this day at some point. Too bad it was a fun ride.

Danbruno13104194d ago

I like you comments gribble. Your crazy but I like u

ZombieNinjaPanda4194d ago

@Guitarded

Who are you to tell someone what they can/can't do with their own device that they purchased?

GribbleGrunger4194d ago

True. If I buy a crowbar, no-one should be able to tell me not to break into your house and take your money.

ZombieNinjaPanda4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

@Gribble

You can straw-man all you like. It doesn't support your argument any better. I can come up with a million different situations that SOUND terrible, but are related in no way whatsoever.

Fact of the matter is, it's your device. You do with it what you please. If you want to hack it, you hack it. If you want to pirate, then do that, but you may have to deal with consequences. But who are you people to actually tell a person what they can or can't do with WHAT THEY PURCHASED WITH THEIR OWN MONEY.

In fact, the people saying that modifying their devices isn't even worth it, the fact that features come about that Sony, Apple, or any other company would have never included way outweighs not jailbreaking/modding it.

I have my ipod jailbroken, and I do not even use it to download apps. The functionality increased by several 100%, but according to you I'm scum and villainy. The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you.

CommonSense4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

right.....cuz we know the hackers will just stop here and not have a new firmware update within a week. those hackers are notorious for being extremely lazy and unmotivated........

@ZombieNinjaPanda: you'd think these people had something to do with the creation of the system or the software...the way they get so bent out of shape over something that has nothing to do with them.

GribbleGrunger4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

ZombieNinjaPanda

I don't recall calling you scum. You're argument is flawed in a fundamental way but I doubt a long drawn out explanation would convince you of that. You need to protect your position in order to justify what you do.

I bought my PS3 to play games. How many of those games is down to developer support. If I play copied games then the developers have less reason to support the PS3. This leads to me having less games to play.

No matter what you use cracks for, others use that same crack for something less benign. If what you are doing allows you to play games for free, then people have the right to complain about you because you are removing the incentive for developers to support the console. Ask any PSP owner

Walk into a store, pick up a CD and walk out without paying. Do you think your argument would stand then? What's the difference? It's a product that someone has made that you should have paid for but you didn't: theft.

yeahokchief4194d ago

Thank you for this comment. I am totally buying a PS4 next gen over whatever Microsoft puts out.

Through their ordeals they will have learned so much since this generation. And they handled the attack like pros giving us free games and stuff.

And they don't spam us with ads like microsoft, they don't give into the lucrative sales to casuals, they have free online and they have been pushing out some great new IPs.

SONY FTW!

TheLeapist4194d ago

@GribbleGrunger
While I agree with most of everything you're saying, what you stated there isn't the definition of theft. On top of that pirating games also isn't theft. It's actually copyright infringement, which of course is just as illegal and admonishable. The more you know.

Outside_ofthe_Box4194d ago

***"The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you."***

Ummm that is the number one reason why a person would modify their device.... well I'm pretty sure it isn't reason number 28....

Don't tell you're one of those people that think that most PC gamers that pirate a game only do so to test the game before buying it.

Please, we all know people want stuff for free.

r1sh124193d ago

@GribbleGrunger...
The only reason the ps3 took 'so long' to hack is because all of the big hackers did not care, but once sony gave them a reason to be angry they opened up the system.
All systems/hardware/software are prone to hacks, its a matter of time.

Back to the article - I dont know how these USBs will be used, I assume most users will have a more up to date FW installed.

Sony really wont even take notice of this, the console has to be already hacked for this to work, and of all the PS3's out there I assume its less than 1% (generous) that are hacked.

AsimLeonheart4193d ago

Hacking has one benefit; it results in more hardware sales. I live in Asia and over here people are poor. An average person who works 10 hours a day only earns around $200 a month out of which he has to pay for rent, bills, food, clothes and transport. A passionate gamer may be able to buy a console after saving bit by bit for a couple of years but he could never afford to buy $60 games when he has a family to feed. He only has one choice either to quit gaming or get a hacked console. Therefore they buy the console brand which has been hacked so that they can play games for a cheap price. For several years XBOX360 was the most popular console over here because you could buy a pirated game for as little as $2. That is why XBOX has higher sales; it is more popular in third world countries like Pakistan, India, Philippines and Malaysia. Nobody bought the PS3 because it was unhackable but after the CFW 3.55 hack we were able to play PS3 games finally. The hacks only result in sales for the console in third world countries and more total sales. Consoles are not officially released over here so the sales appear in sales numbers from their respective regions. I know people hate pirates and hackers but for us guys they are like heroes and saviours who allow us get a taste of the fun and pleasure of gaming. If there were no hackers, we would never be able to experience any of the great games. It is a necessary evil for us...

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monkpunk14193d ago

@ zombie

Ok i paid for it but i also bought my House, where there are clear and spacific rules about what you acn and can't do. i decide however to modify it, i put an extension on, raise the roof 10ft build a garage, even have chickens in the back garden etc etc etc...

Local authorities see this due to either complaints by their other residents or by just checking an area. i am forced to remove everything as i did not have permission, planning etc etc. in other terms you may own the device however you do not own the abilty to mess with everything on that device. Its called control and when it affects others i.e. me getting online for a game it then affects the masses and further stricter measures are taken and enforced. it's a minority of bloody minded people that insist and continue to try to push little boundaries all the time for very little or no benefit to others.

Sony may not give a hoot about me personally, although i am a customer and i think that customers are respected and their needs are looked at very closely, whatever you want to say about any company customer service be it excellent or pants they still invest millions into maintaining a certain image that they and every other company in the world try to do. if you had someone that affected your business and customers you would certainly look at ways to make sure your customers were protected, unless you really did not care about their personal details being leaked and you name being bad mouthed in the press. How much did the downtime cost? i don't have the figures but i'm sure it wasn't pennies...

Go and build something on the side of your house (modification) then watch as you are forced to remove it, or taken to court if you dont!

GribbleGrunger4193d ago

Just read back through this from last night and have to say: 'what an half-baked argument from me that is'. Up late/No sleep/Oh dear.

But in essence, I stand by what I waffled.

d0nni34193d ago

@ZombieNinjaPanda

You're using the same argument everyone does to justify this and i'm the same, it's a nonsense argument you own the hardware and yea you can do what you want with it, the thing you don't own is the software and when it comes to editing software you have no rights at all.

I have a jailbroken phone and i've modded my consoles in the past but i know full well in the eyes of the law i don't have a leg to stand on when i start playing with the software.

violents4192d ago

Anything can be hacked and it's stupid to think it's impossible to hack any device, essentially thier only hope is to make it as difficult as possible for it to be hacked, not to say they havent done that or anything but either way its unlikely but not impossible.

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Pushagree4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

The PS3 has remained an unhackable console for the last 6 years and it will continue to be unhackable until the end of time. Sony will just keep patching any holes they find and arrest anyone who hacks the ps3. If you want to steal games, do it on PC where there is no console war. Sony can't afford to have anyone stealing games or hacking into psn. They have a war to fight and they will win.

yoonakron4194d ago

A war to fight? No, my brother who is stationed in Afghanistan has a war to fight. Sony's just another corporation that wants to make money and is protecting their interests. Ease up on the hyperbole, it's just videogames, here.

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r1sh124193d ago

@yeaokchief..
Sony might be doing great in the gaming division, and having 'core gamers backs'
But lets not forget the other things they have done in the past.
Not having backwards compatibility even though it was possible, or the CD root thing, or how they did not let customers know about the hack for a few days. Thats a few things

You can say the RROD was a catastrophe but MS at least provided a free repair service and an extended warranty.

All large organisations just want to effectively make money, so if thats the primary goal everything else is secondary..Like its customers.

Also if a person does not yet have a console, now is not the time to invest in a ps3 or xbox 360. Wait for next gen or the Wii U.

Chucky20034193d ago

well you're right and wrong,if these LV0 keys are for real,SOny can't do shit anymore,they need a new hardware,so they actually released the new PS3 slim,that one can't be hacked,but the people who still have fat consoles and early slim versions they can jailbreak it,if these LV0 are the real deal,it means ever update Sony will make,they will be able to break it
Sony to arrest anyone who hack a PS3,dude don't be so naive,wake up,Sony again can't really do that,the first time it was easier for them because those guys brag about,it was easy to find them,then there is the problem with the laws,every country has there own law,and not every country is that harsh about piracy,deal with it,piracy was before you were born,and it will remain after you are dead

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Cam9774194d ago

I'VE JUST UPDATED MY PS3 and singstar is ON THE XMB!!! WHY?!

AsimLeonheart4193d ago

This hack wont hurt PS3 sales because it only works on some of the older slim PS3 models that or on FW 3.55 or less. The new super-slim models are still unhackable because they have different LV0 keys and even most of the older models are getting bricked. Rogero who created and uploaded the first CFW 4.21 has pulled it down due to large number of bricks and is testing the CFW again. So to those hoping that this spells the end for PS3 should go back to their caves. If hacking killed a console then XBOX360 should have been dead a long time ago. It is the most easily hacked console and in my country I can buy a pirated XBOX360 game for only $2. As a matter of fact hacking only helped XBOX360 maintain its sales lead because it is is cheap to own and play one

scottd4193d ago

@ AsimLeonheart Your right and hacking did not hurt Wii sales either, it was hacked within the first year.

AsimLeonheart4193d ago

@scottd

Your absolutely right, I completely forgot about the Wii. It is the most selling but the most pirated as well. We even have fully working Wii emulators but still it has sold more than any other console. I think the best strategy for a company is to earn profit on each console sold and let it be pirated just like Wii. It will become hugely popular in the third world countries and there will be a lot more sales and profit as well.

LUKENBACHER4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

@Autodidactdystopia

Really? Sony will just "patch it up"? Are you sure?

The SOCOM franchise has been hacked ruthlessly for over 7 years straight. It started on the PS2, and it has carried over to the PS3 for several years now. It has completely destroyed the competitive community that has played it for over a decade. Some of us have been waiting a long time for Sony to "fix" it to no avail.

You can log on to Confrontation on the PS3 right now and run into people flying through the air with unlimited health, unlimited ammo, fully automatic sniper rifles, can turn invisible, can have a 20' knife reach, can freeze rooms causing hard reboots, can force matches to start prematurely, can have 1 shot kills, no recoil on guns, and see where everyone is at on the map at any given time. The same thing happened on the PS2 and was a major problem all the way up to the point where Sony shut the old SOCOM servers down last August.

Be careful what you claim, because not all "hacking" is just done for pirating software. There are some fanbases out there that have had their favorite franchises completely ruined by extreme hacking in online servers and have begged and protested Sony to fix it since 2005.

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bad naruto4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

F*CK Hackers, they think they're doing the greater good, pushing companies like Sony to further the limitations on legit user with access/online keys to play and shit.

this will backfire i tell you.

SAE4194d ago

Pass codes not because pirates , because they are greedy , 10 dollars for a pass -.- even though hackers cant play online when they hack , so thats not the reason to blame hackers , there are benefits and bad things hackers do , i really dont blame them this generation because of the companies greed ..

Pass code is like dlc's that shouldnt existed in the first place ...

Lord_Sloth4193d ago

If you buy the game new and support the company you don't have to pay for the online pass so that is a horrible attempt at justification.

SAE4193d ago

People buy and sell used things for thousands of years , so why sony wants to change that ?. Its just greed when they dont want people sell the games and it had nothing to do with hackers at all , some hackers pirate and that you can blame , but you cant blame them for the limit stuff that sony do such as pass code , 2 ps3's per account , one account attached to the vita ...etc , digital games cant be sold thats why i know the ps4 will focus on that ...

wishingW3L4193d ago

@Lord_Sloth buying used games is not illegal.

brish4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

@yewles1

That debate is about people suing Sony because Sony was robbed.

Imagine if you had a friends files in your home. Someone breaks in and steals your friends files then your friend sues you because you didn't prevent the thief from stealing their data.

Sony didn't "leave the door open". They had measures to protect peoples data but they were hacked. Sony didn't "give out the data" either. It was stolen.

The case is stupid because Sony (the victim of the theft) was getting charged with the theft.

born2live4194d ago

Not quite...

It's more like if you told your friend he could leave his money in your home in case he wants to buy something from you, and the money gets stolen. I think Sony has a responsibility toward those people, and that dismissal sets a dangerous precedent for other companies (imagine a bank that says it has no responsibility to return the stolen money to its customers)... Sony was not getting charged with the theft, but it was responsible for the data they were holding on to. A bank would have gone out of business after something like that...

calis4194d ago

Except no body lost anything of value with the PSN hack so your example isn't the same.

DragonKnight4194d ago

What responsibility? No CC information was leaked because it was encrypted, and the other information is accessible through a phone book or google. So what exactly do Sony owe people who had nothing taken from them?

born2live4194d ago (Edited 4194d ago )

@calis and @DragonKnight
So you guys think it's ok for a company to sell your private information to anyone willing to pay for it (I know Sony didn't sell it, I'm just projecting your reasoning into a different scenario)? Just because it's already available to everyone? why don't you guys just get your social security number tattooed on your head?

If you think that data has no value, then think again: why would anyone steal it? To prove a point? Which point would be: "Sony can't protect your personal information"? And you don't think that Sony is liable for that?

DragonKnight4194d ago

Your name, address, and telephone number are all public information already. If someone wanted that information they can get it with the click of a mouse or the flick of a finger. Why should Sony be held liable for information that is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANYWAY?

You have no argument. The only way your argument could succeed is if CC data or other, equally sensitive information, was stolen. And guess what, it wasn't. So again, how can Sony be liable for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING happening to anyone's money, or credit rating, or life in general beyond a month without online gaming?

born2live4194d ago

Because it opens the door for something worse?

DragonKnight4194d ago

Like what? The possibility of hackers decrypting CC card data? Not possible. Sony has no liability in being a victim. That's like blaming a rape on the raped instead of the raper.

JD_Shadow4194d ago

The problem actually was that people believed that Sony knew that they had a security hole in their system, and chose to ignore it because since no one found it and no one chose to exploit it, why should they bother using resources to do anything about it. It was not a difficulty security hole to jump through, but it was seemly overlooked for so long.

Then, when the hole was found, they blamed the people for finding it, not themselves for leaving it there and choosing to be lazy because no one knew it was there. Then they took a really extreme measure that many saw as unnecessary given the situation, and using piracy as a scapegoat to remove a feature that they always wanted to get rid of (but couldn't because some early PS3 adopters were using it so religiously).

They had the responsibility, they chose to do nothing, then blame the people for finding something they should've done something about before it was found, and took draconian measures while being snobby about a group of game developers that have really done nothing wrong (unless you ask Sony). How does that NOT make us want at least a truthful explanation?

vega2754193d ago

@ dragonknight

You don't know if people had their CC info stolen or not so please stop assuming they didn't. Most people would not come to a gaming site to report their credit card info has been misused. Second Sony or any other company aren't going to tell you if peoples Credit cards was stolen to minimize lawsuits and uphold peoples faith in the services.

You really think Sony would tell people their CC info was stolen. You think Sony is in financial troubles now, people would have a field day with the lawsuits and Sony would be held liable. Their best move is to convinced you that nothing was taken and offer identity thief protection.

Plus people that have said something about their CC being used after the hack. Was called liars cause Sony said so.

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Cam9774194d ago

Stupid basement-dwellers - LEAVE TRUE CUSTOMERS ALONE AND STOP RUINING OUR FUN!

Bladesfist4194d ago

I did not know that what other people do with the hardware they bought effects you. Sure hacking PSN or some service that effects others sucks but modding your own hardware. I just see that as a buyers right. Piracy on the other hand is also bad.

Majin-vegeta4194d ago

Oh you know this story is gonna get hot asap-_-.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197212d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91312d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos21d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9520d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia20d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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