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Developer: Wii U controller felt like a toy, now it's 'better suited for long game sessions'

Two Tribes, makers of Wii U launch game Toki Tori 2, said that the original Wii U Game Pad was "small and toy-like" in comparison to the new Wii U controller.

They're saying that the change from circle pads to traditional analog sticks on the Wii U Game Pad has improved it from this "toy-like" feeling and made it better for "long game sessions".

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LX-General-Kaos4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

This is great news because there are many long gaming sessions to be had with future releases for the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. From the looks of things, the new innovative game pad looks to properly address all concerns of past complaining and negative speculation. Perfectly suited for current trends, and future gaming.

The complete standard button layout is present with the new game pad, with the addition of a new era of home console gaming control. A built in lag free touch screen to compliment the already spectacular universal setup. Much like the revolutionary industry leading Nintendo 3DS entertainment system. Which has already proven that dual screen action is completely necessary for the forward progress of gaming, and battlefield control.

Now everything from Nintendos awarding exclusive offerings, to future AAA jrpg titles, down to COD like shooters will be possible with this all in one device. While complimented with new and improved next generation ways to experience each title. Opening up a whole new universe of ways for developers to innovate their product. Especially since each game pad comes as standard with each Nintendo Wii U entertainment system sold. Not a single Nintendo Elite future supporter will be alienated from the unique gaming experiences to come.

Rated E For Everyone

camel_toad4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Yep I'm looking forward to it. Graphics aside what really killed the wii for me was the wiimotes being part of the main controller setup.

They just don't suit long gaming sessions as mentioned.

New pad looks comfy.

Gr814215d ago

I beg to differ on the idea it wasn't suited for long play sessions. I fell in love with the set up for FPS' and Metroid Prime 3 solidified it for me.

Some devs implementation was lame no doubt, but when it was implemented well, it was revolutionary. Just playing Wii Sports Resort Table Tennis the other day and that game is just amazing still.

neogeo4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

I strongly disagree. The Wii mote is far better for long gaming sessions for not motion based games. It's so relaxing to play games like mario kart with my hands resting apart now having to protract my shoulders and tense my hands together with a standard controller.

camel_toad4214d ago (Edited 4214d ago )

@neogeo

Yeh I definitely agree that it's good for non-motion controlled games when you hold it like an old nes controller - just meant when you have it and the nunchuk and you're waving them around for hours on end.

I'm lazy though so that could be my issue =)

Cam9774215d ago

I can imagine! Nintendo aim towards the casual-market.

PopRocks3594215d ago

Actually they're aiming harder at the core crowd with some casual support thrown in. There's a reason why the only casual game by Nintendo for launch is Wii Fit U.

A large amount of the launch games are core games. Inb4 "they're just ports" complaints. They're still third party games, many of which have been showcased at Wii U conferences since 2011.

Shok4215d ago

"FELT like a toy."

Can you read?

Gr814215d ago

In the dark as to what a casual or harcore market is.

Those terms are the most ridiculous attempt of marginalizing Wii's success. What happened to just being a gamer?

There are those who play Tetris like maniacs, are they casual gamers?

Unreal

PopRocks3594215d ago

I guess you can categorize them like this.

Quarky, cute and very simple games are more casual (Wii Fit, Carnival Games or perhaps a game show tie-in like Jeapordy or Buzz).

Meanwhile hardcore games are generally the mature, darker and more complex games (Darksiders, Gears of War, Resident Evil, etc.) Both markets meet different audiences, so I guess that's how the terms "hardcore" and "casual" came to be.

Then of course you have those harder to categorize games (Tetris is a great example). And I'll be damned before I ever start calling Mario, Zelda or Kirby casual. Yeah, they're easy to get into, but in my opinion they're also more complex in gameplay and design than people give them credit for.

Gr814215d ago

Appreciate your attempt to clarify, but again, the way I see it is you can't classify a game as being "casual or hardcore" but rather the gamer him/herself.

I can play Resident Evil casually or I can play Pacman or Mario maniacally.

Back in the day Metroid for NES was classified as a game for "elite gamers" meaning is was meant to be difficult and challenging.

This notion of 'casual games, casual markets etc' is all just a bunch of classic viral marketing tactics.

I liken it to a woman being half pregnant lol. You either are or your not. You either play games or you don't..That's my perspective.

BitbyDeath4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Here's how i see it -

Casual - People who generally buy a system for 1 or 2 games/genres of games. eg. COD gamers who only play COD or even only play FPS/Fitness

Core - would be the other market who actually enjoy playing different types of games no matter what the genre is be it - SingStar, Mario, Uncharted, Borderlands, Halo etc etc.

Hardcore - those who complete games in under a week or just play continuously for hours on end and likely also have multiple systems.

I'd see myself as a core gamer.

FinalomegaS4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Arius you're right, I feel the same way about the whole Casual and Hardcore.

Pop you did make it sound alright, but the little detail missing for both (after using my woman as a testing ground).The gamer him/her self can be starting out as casual but after a while, they can see their hunger for more OR they might know their limits and limit their self to couple of round in Mario, few level in pac man or a few game overs ( which ever comes first too often).

She ( wife) will play any game she can try to beat my a$$ at ( never going to happen but let's humor her lol) Soul Calibur, Mario Kart, Pac Man Champion Edition,Street Fighter 4,Tetris Attack,NSMB (easy to grab her and toss her in a hole.

She generally likes to play as long as I am there but wont do it alone. but she can't go to long as she only sees the point of "fun" for so long and not the point of core/ hardcore to F'ing root the game and destroy some mofo that was bothering you. Go for achievements or just finish the dam thing to start over.

Ok so casual gamers are the ones upgrade to core gamer and eventually hardcore. think there is one more level, insane ( drinks energy drinks to sustain gaming life and dies after 48 hour lol)

So basically you can't just pick up gaming and be totally hardcore, you need to start off as casual.

Casual > Core >> Hardcore >>> Insane nolifer(warning this is beyond playing for fun)

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wiiulee4215d ago

ok...why even post this articles...except to give sony and microsoft fanboys something to get a hard on about ....until wiiu win next generation and they start crying again....obviously a hater sat asking developers about early wiiu kits because they can't say nothing about the wiiu

DivineAssault 4214d ago

im sorry but all nintendo products feel like toys to me.. I enjoy my 1st party games from em tho

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel18d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8817d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing17d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS16d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder16d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218316d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.