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Why the Kevin Butler lawsuit dooms Sony

Sony's lawsuit against Jerry Lambert makes them appear incredibly insecure about the quality of their product and reveals them as the unsympathetic, merciless corporation that they are.

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Carl_Shocker4218d ago

Jeez...here comes the gloom and doom Sony articles. Taking something thats happening to them at the moment and exaggerating them to the high heavens.

Other companies and even developers have done worse this gen...just saying

Catoplepas4218d ago

I'm not going to ignite another console war argument by rattling crap off, because frankly, I'm better than you.....

But.

Yeaaaaaaah.

jujubee884218d ago

@Catoplepas:

Nnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh

-Mika-4218d ago

"Jeez...here comes the gloom and doom Sony articles. Taking something thats happening to them at the moment and exaggerating them to the high heavens.

It funny you say that because you do the same exact thing with Capcom.

Carl_Shocker4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

...because Capcom does far worse things then this, things which effect us as gamers. This law suit with Kevin Butler is between him and Sony, it dosent effect us unless you count the fact we'll probably never see KB adverts again.
They deserve the hate because they are a corrupt money, grabbing company.
Nobody exaggerates what they do, it's that bad and there games prove that thus RE6 getting crap reviews.

Notice how I said

"Other companies and even developers have done worse this gen...just saying "

Nice try Mika...

slayorofgods4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

RE is a franchise that started in 1996, making it over 20 years old, and is still going strong spinning off 5 movies and many games. If RE6 suffers at all it is because they are running out of ideas or being to ambitious with such a long running series.

Game companies are supposed to make games and employees are supposed to make money, that's not evil that's just capitalism. Don't hate the players hate the game!

chiefdog114217d ago (Edited 4217d ago )

@slayorofgods.....1996...that would make it 16 years old, not over 20

slayorofgods4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

My initial thought to finding out Sony is suing their mascot was... Wow!

But after reading the comments I'm wondering if it even matters to everyone here. It just makes me think (especially as we reach the end of this generation).....

So will all PS3 owners automatically migrate to PS4 and all 360 owners automatically migrate to the 720? Personally, I'm still undecided but I do notice people are still as defensive about their respective console as they were a year or two ago. That just makes me think that people are going to be very loyal to the same company they have been dealing with as we move into the next generation.

doogiebear4217d ago

This sucks. Remember back a few months ago when everyone hoped Buttler might be a character in PSASBR? Well it wont happen now. And I was hoping he'd use a Playstation Move as a light saber/Sharpshooter :(

j4re4217d ago

It's just the pettiness of it all. It's not as if he was trying to actively advertise the Wii. He just happens to be in a Bridgestone commercial that includes a Wii promotion. He's seen playing Mario Kart for just a second or so. If that's enough to get Sony to sic the lawyers on the poor guy then screw them. I mean come on. The PR at that place is just ridiculous. I personally thought the whole Kevin Butler persona was ridiculous to begin with but geez... Sony does not own him.

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NYC_Gamer4218d ago

The lawsuit doesn't doom Sony..I bet most average gamers outside of gaming forums don't even care about Kevin Butler commercials..Sony has every right to sue if something in the contract was broken.

azazel6654218d ago

Sure they do, LEGALLY speaking. But they should have considered how this is going to make them look. As the article says, "it reveals them as the unsympathetic, merciless corporation that they are."

NYC_Gamer4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

How are they merciless?i'm sure Jerry Lambert read the whole contract before he signed..It would be his own fault if broke some type of agreement in the process of his latest ad..These corporation are here for one purpose and that is profit..Its just business and companies have been suing other persons/companies since forever..I'm very sure Jerry Lambert would be quick to sue Sony or any other company if they broke agreements that went against his contract...Would you call people who sue companies over broken agreements merciless/unsympathetic too?

dubt724217d ago

I hope Jerry Lambert kicks Kevin Butler's ass!

smashcrashbash4218d ago

No one really cares as much as people will try to make it seem. Unlike some people, they play games on Sony's system. This doesn't affect them in the least whether they win or lose. No one really cares so it won't doom anyone. Microsoft has been looking like monsters and greedy bastards for years despite the fact they pretend that they aren't and they aren't doomed. Also most people don't know the situation so as per usual they jump on Sony's back before they know if they are in the right or not. People always sympathize with the victim and don't care if they were in the right or the wrong.They figure Sony is an 'evil company' which automatically makes the victim right.

Mr-Dude4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

O my God, Tha Doom! The Doomzzz is here.. Again... like haven't we seen enough of this apocalypse Sony items? What's next? Sony dooms humanity? The maya prediction is based on Sony? The third world hunger is sony's fault?

It's so lame and energy draining just to read the headline...

Catoplepas4218d ago (Edited 4218d ago )

If anyone is "deeply insecure about the quality of their product" it's the fanboys that write this tripe.

Why else would you feel the need to constantly clutch at straws, and shine a negative light on your console of your choice' competitor?

Rhetorical question of course, we all know the answer. Validation, and as I alluded to above, insecurity.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H93h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

SegaSaturn6692h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg19h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos18h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion18h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola14h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken20d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga20d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken20d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6420d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long20d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197220d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12520d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91320d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer20d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher20d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher20d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken20d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2320d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218320d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder20d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

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