Why Assassin's Creed 3 Xbox 360 Is Shipping On Two Discs

NowGamer: Assassin's Creed 3's developers explain that the game is too big for one disc on Xbox 360.

[realiks]

The main reason I sold my xbox and kept only ps3. It has great graphics (xbox) but I dislike the option to buy a game with more than one disc.

[Blankman85]

Wait, so you already had both console and you sold the 360 because some games come in 2 discs? He's an idea for you, how bout buy all those games for PS3 instead and keep the 360 for the games that aren't available on ps3?
Selling it for that reason alone was very short sighted of you.
I have so far gotten all my assassin's creed on 360 except for Revelation which I didn't buy at all. Looks like assassin's creed 3 is going to be a PS3 buy for me. It's a small nuisance but why get up and change the disc if I have the option not to?

[Hatsune-Miku]

Playstation is the future and ps3 is the best console to have until ps4 is out.

The thing about having a PlayStation is that you know its always more future proof than the competitions and it has cutting edge technology.

Look at the Wii u, its basically trying to emulate what Sony started with PlayStation pocket on ps1, then remote play on ps2 and using a handheld device as an input device with a touch screen to be the controller for a console. The blu ray tech in ps3 supports 50gb blu rays and the Wii u a new system which is 7years newer supports on 25gb disc capacity. Some people are ok with that which is telling mostly because they are sheep and sup-standard devices from their Company of choice is fine.

The history of PlayStation illustrates that they don't abandon the core or pretend they are core. With Nintendo they are posers and with Microsoft they are confused and has abandoned the core but I guess they are useto abandoning gamers. PlayStation is the best, they offer everything from all genres and has created their own and you know they are all quality and not shovelware like on other consoles.

With a nintendo console the majority of people have low expectations in its power and features but when its a Sony device or PlayStation device peoples expectations are high and sometimes our of this world. NES fanatics will shout all day about how graphics and game tech improvements aren't needed but they are constantly upgrading their Nintendo devices showing how idiotic they are. You'll hear them say how the Wii u is barely more powerful than a 7year old device because power and graphics now matters to them because it suits them completely ignoring the fact that the Wii u is a weak device that should have been way more powerful .

I don't want unproven devices that poses as something so ill wait for the ps4. The ps3 has some amazing exclusives that not even the newest console the Wii u can outshine with its gaming tech. I can't wait for the rest of the amazing exclusive titles for The ps3 and pick up the ps4 when its here

PlayStation is the future

[beerkeg]

Yeah, well while you're waiting for the future, I'll be playing new games on the Wii U as well as all the upcoming games on my other consoles.

And then when the future does turn up I'll buy the other upcoming consoles and play new games on those as well.

So many games to play, so many games...

[DiRtY]

WOW @ Hatsune

how fanboyish can you get?

The Wii U copies Sony?! That is a first.
Oh yeah, Wii copied Sony as well, because something that was on a drawing board years before that (PS MOVE).

And MS copied Sony with Kinect, because of Eyetoy.

Somehow, Sony seems to be doing worse out of the three. Strange, isn't it?

[Neonridr]

Hatsune - the only poser here is you.

"The thing about having a PlayStation is that you know its always more future proof than the competitions and it has cutting edge technology." In the case of the PS2, it was the weakest of the three systems (Xbox, Gamecube), so cutting edge technology it wasn't. It sold very well yes, much like the Wii did this past generation.

Lol at remote play on the ps2. Please tell me what remote play was supported with the PS2?

And as for the Wii U discs, we know that they are 25 gb currently, but we don't know yet if the Wii U discs support double layer. Why don't you wait before you jump the gun and look like an idiot. All PS3 games originally started on 25 GB discs as double layered blu-rays were not used in mainstream.

So that is your reasoning that the PS3 is better than the Wii U? Because it's discs hold more? Go ahead, play your PS3 then in your native 580p upscaled to pretend like it's a true HD console. And you can wait until 2015 when your PS4 finally limps out to the market. Sony doesn't understand its customers, hence the reason why the Vita is such a failure. They just don't get it. They think that just because something is more powerful makes it automatically better - actually that is kind of like how you think too Hatsune, so I guess I understand why you are such a Sony drone.

[realiks]

I am a student and couldn't keep em both. So I decided for ps3 instead.

[pablo-b]

after reading the article, i get the idea that you will install one disc and play with the other.. not bad imo

[DragonPrince]

Why didn't MS use their HD-DVD for games at least? Maybe would've lead to more game content and less DLC overall.

[Neonridr]

@DragonPrince - had Microsoft used the HD-DVD drive in the machine instead of a stupid addon, Bluray wouldn't have become the format of choice so easily.

[ajax17]

Yes, great 360 exclusive games like Halo, Gears, Forza, and uh....

[YoungPlex]

Hatsune-Miku+DivineASSault=PS Poser! Nice propaganda, too bad that its mostly opinion-based gibberish regardless of which account you pose as!

The Wii U is confirmed 25gig Optical discs which is based off of the same technology as Blu-ray and indeed being developed with Panasonic look it up! Not only that, Panasonic confirmed that it will be able to expand with 50gig duel-layered, 75gig tri-layered, and even 100gig quad-layered. On top of that it the optical dics read 4-5X faster than Blu-ray discs which will eliminate the need to have any type of mandatory install and load much faster. Leading edge technology huh? Too bad we never seen this leading edge technology you speak of. I remember when Sony boasted that they would be the only company to support true native 1080p gaming! What happened there?

Huh, seems to me like Nintendo made a far better move than having to pay Sony for Blu-ray technology! What makes you think that Microsoft won't go a similar rout. I like Sony but despise people like you, that haven't the slightest clue about specs, and trying to spread bogus propaganda on here! Maybe if you had your facts straight you would be okay! However, I do enjoy your enthusiasm for games, just get your facts together.

(edit) I have both 360/PS3 but will have a Wii U in a month or so and won't be having neither problem, as the Wii U version will need neither to install, or swap discs. Sounds about right don't you think...

[hkgamer]

Some people just prefer to sell consoles they don't use and get as much money out of it as possible. I personally jsut keep them because I feel that I am getting ripped off for selling it.

@hatsune
its not really about who started or who came up with the idea first, its more on the line of who pulls it out better.
Microsoft wasn't first to go online but they were able to profit and keep a stable online service where people didn't mind to pay.
Nintendo was able to release a pathetic machine with gimmicky controls that tricked people into thinking it was better than what it was and sell a bucket load.
Sony were not the first to come out with CD gaming console butt ended up being the best CD based console.

@beerkeg
good for you, I however have fallen into the gamertag trick and for some reason care about stupid trophies. I own most consoles but for some reason I feel the need to play everything on my PS3.

@dragonprince & neonridr
If MS used HD-DVD then the 360 would cost more, the disks would cost more, therefore games would cost more or make less on the game sold.
DLC profits cut ouut retailers so more money can be made on that.
Reason why Sony can support the BR drive is because they invested money on that format and using BR disks are more expensive but that money goes towards Sony anyway because they print the disks.
Anyway, 360 having HD-DVD would have been a very bad and risky move which wouldn't have benefited them at all, they have not invested in the format war and has no point in taking any risks at all.

[Ritsujun]

hah! thanks for the internet circus, clowns :D

[RGB]

@YoungPlex

First, let’s correct your own errors. The WiiU disc drive does not "read 4-5X faster than Blu-ray discs" and it won't "eliminate the need to have any type of mandatory install" and load times will be only slightly faster*.

1st, Speed;
WiiU is a 5 speed modified Blu-ray Drive. PS3 only has a 2 speed standard Blu-ray Drive.

The Numbers;
WiiU 5 speed drive is 22.5 MB/s.
PS3 2 speed drive is 9MB/s.

Conclusion;
The WiiU's 5 speed drive is only 2.5x faster than the PS3's 2 speed drive, not "4 or 5 times".

2nd, Installs.
Gaming has changed massively in the last 7 years. Microsoft and Sony thought 20GB-60GB HDDs would cover games and entertainment in 2005/06. Yet in 2012 we have both selling systems with 5x that now, if not more. This is down to 2 mean reasons, HD games and downloads. HD games required HDD space, they need space for HD texture packages for example. The WiiU's 1GB RAM isn't going to cut it when PC devs needed 2GB minimum back in 2008. That's just one aspect; we could look much further into game installations and their data content. Downloads, 32GB isn't going to cut it either. In today's industry, that's about 2-4 games on the system tops. Nintendo have completely overlooked this, this gives me concerns about their online package and what they'll offer games wise.

3rd, Loading Times.
The WiiU's 5 speed drive will have to offload data, 100% guarantee that. 22.5MB/s isn't that fast, trust me. When a system that promises full 1080p games, it'll need to read data with mega data sizes. Example, Killzone 2 maps were between 2-5GB in size at 720p. That's going to take a fair few seconds longer in 1080p even with a 5 speed drive. No HDD to offload so External it is as Nintendo have confirmed. They don't have a HDD because Nintendo thought it was a good idea... Oh dear. :/

Theory;
Do you know how it works? The WiiU doesn't support USB3 so it's USB2 which is slow. Now, if you have a SATA (Motherboard) to SATA HDD which is internal like PS3 and 360, you have no issues with Read and Write speeds as the system is running the task straight from system to memory. Running through USB2 external, you are giving the system and software more holes to jump through.

PS3/360, Game Disc > Internal HDD.
WiiU, Game Disc > USB2 > External HDD.

PS3 uses the HDD (or Hybrid or SSD) to offload data so loading times are quicker. USB2 and 5 speed drive won't ever be faster than a Hybrid or SSD. Fast as or slightly faster than the HDD granted but only just.

The Numbers;
WiiU 5 speed drive is only 22.5 MB/s. USB2 is 60MB/s.

PS3 2 speed drive is only 9MB/s. PS3 (160GB slim HDD) runs at 77.3 MB/s average and a burst read speed of 242.6 MB/s.

WiiU
22.5 (Disc) + 60 (External USB2) is 88.5MB/s.

PS3 - Standard (160GB slim HDD)(Not Hybrid or SSD)
9 (Disc) + 77.3 (SATA average) is 86.3MB/s.
9 (Disc) + 242.6 (SATA Burst) is *only* 251.6MB/s.

Seems like I've just killed all 3 parts of that particular argument. "That haven't the slightest clue about specs", I think that could be attributed to you also.

Finally, it won't need discs swaps but you'll be clinging on to every last KB on the flash and when you're out you'll need to plug in a useless USB2 external. HD Games will require installs, no two ways about it and the ignorance with downloads just shows how far Nintendo is from reality in where this industry is going.

[YoungPlex]

It’s not the capacity of the discs we’re interested in, though. It’s the read speed – quoted at 22.5MB/s. This is fast enough to ensure we’re not hobbled with slow, mandatory installs that ruin Nintendo’s ethos of ‘immediate gaming. To compare, PS3′s Blu Ray drive reads at 9MB/s. Fast loading times and no installs on Wii U, then.

Yea, we'll see if I need a "mandatory install", with AC or "multiple discs" as well! Whatever's cleaver friend!

[Jazz4108]

Because I feel partial game installs on a nusiance.

[fuzion17c]

Multiple discs is bad for disc drives. They could wear them out in the long run.

[pixelsword]

"Why Assassin's Creed 3 Xbox 360 Is Shipping On Two Discs

NowGamer: Assassin's Creed 3's developers explain that the game is too big for one disc on Xbox 360."

Well that's...

...that's pretty much the article.

[cashrell1171]

Yup honestly gotta give sony credit, they planned for this so they implimented bluray which can hold a ton of data

[nukeitall]

Yup, so instead of a 10 second disc swap you gotta sit through a mandatory install of at least 20 minutes!

Point being, none of the solution are ideal on either platform at the time of the console release. So lets move on. We are at the end of the console cycle now and they are all aging technology.

Wii U is where things are heading right now until the other two reveal their consoles.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah come on, I'd much rather take 10 seconds to change a disc than sit through a 20 minute mandatory install. How people argue against this boggles my mind.

Lets not get into the point regarding how long updates take to install comparatively.

Honestly, is anyone really that bothered about disc swapping a couple of times?

[JasonXS12]

I dont understand why people cry about installs and disc swap. Disc swap takes up 10 seconds of your time and whilst installing, why not use your computer or get some food, no one forces you to sit and wait for the game to install. Pc players install all the time, and i've never heard them conplain.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

@Nukeitail,Septic
One time event of a 10-20 minute install> Constantly swapping disc when switching from story mode to multiplayer.
But they are both insignificant inconveniences.

[JasonKCK]

Pick your poison

[insomnium2]

Not all games can be split onto 2 discs. How about GTA?

[JellyJelly]

@insomnium2 - Grand Theft Auto IV was better on the 360 than on the PS3 (higher res, better framerates) so I don't see the problem. Same with Red Dead Redemption.

If games as big as Skyrim or Just Cause 2 can fit on one disc I would worry more about the PS3's bottlenecked memory to be a problem for devs when making large scale games.

[Hanif-876]

Its a one time mandatory install. Also, just to give you an idea of what i'm saying.. if i won the lottery i'd rather take the 20 million in whole option rather than in small increments over a period of time.. its kinda the same idea or point that i'm trying to portray here..

[srcBFMVBMTH]

@cashrell1171

True, I'm also appreciative of the fact that Blu ray has a protective film layer over the disc unlike standard DVDs.

Some people actually see having two discs for 360 a good thing though. lol

With the problem of disc scratching on the 360 by just nudging it ever so slightly, you could mess up your ENTIRE game if it was just on one disc.

But if you have two and just mess up the singleplayer portion. At least you got the multi LMAO!!!

@Jellyjelly

While that may have been the case BACK THEN. That was only because the 360 was used as lead console platform and ported over to PS3 because it was a lot easier to develop for. (Which Skyrim is unfortunately a part of).

But considering more and more devs being more familiar with the PS3 these days (Unlike Bethesda) such as EA, Konami, Ubisoft, and Rock*. I highly doubt that will be the case again for GTAV, Assassin's Creed 3, Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, and Battlefield 4. I would probably bet that the PS3 versions would be superior if you take into account their most recent games released (Or was developed at the time) and if you followed which platform was used as lead.

LA Noire (Openworld unlike Max Payne 3) - PS3 used as lead console platform and is superior on it.

Assassin's Creed: Revelations - PS3 used as lead console platform and is superior on it. Best looking of all AC.

Metal Gear Solid Rising - PS3 used as lead console platform before it was handed to PG.

Battlefield 3 - Developed simultaneously I believe but on PS3, graphics look sharper and it runs a lot smoother. It's also only on one disc.

I'm pretty damn sure if Bethesda actually KNEW HOW to develop for PS3 and used it as lead console platform. It would be the closest version to the PC as you could get on consoles. The 360 version would run like crap, and to top it all off, it would be on like 10 discs. lmao.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

@ srcBFMVBMTH

I agree with you about the protective coating for bluray disc and I also prefer just having one disc to worry about, however, swapping discs and mandatory installs have not and will not ever be a big deal to me. Like JasonKCK posted, pick your poison.

As for the rest of your comment, I guess you can pick your poison there too; the devs seem to. Which console is easier to program for? Which console gives you more disc space to work with? Unless you have been smoking too much of my product, it should not be too hard to figure out that the lead platform for any game will (with a few exceptions) and should run better. Either way it is up to the devs to make sure neither version suffers.

[pixelsword]

Yeah, I rather have it on one disc than a scratched disc, which the 360 isn't a mandatory install, it's a VITAL install unless you want to ruin your game.

@ Jelly Jelly,

Multiple reviews said the PS3 version of GTA IV looked better.

[Nate-Dog]

I know man, getting up about 12 hours into a game, pressing a button, changing discs, pressing a button again and then sitting down is so much effort. Honestly one of these days I'm going to just stop gaming if this sort of stuff continues, IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

[aviator189]

I'm sorry, but I think that's a pretty foolish reason to sell your xbox 360.

[cruxito]

Playstation is the future and ps3 is the best console to have until ps4 is out.

The thing about having a PlayStation is that you know its always more future proof than the competitions and it has cutting edge technology.

Look at the Wii u, its basically trying to emulate what Sony started with PlayStation pocket on ps1, then remote play on ps2 and using a handheld device as an input device with a touch screen to be the controller for a console. The blu ray tech in ps3 supports 50gb blu rays and the Wii u a new system which is 7years newer supports on 25gb disc capacity. Some people are ok with that which is telling mostly because they are sheep and sup-standard devices from their Company of choice is fine.

The history of PlayStation illustrates that they don't abandon the core or pretend they are core. With Nintendo they are posers and with Microsoft they are confused and has abandoned the core but I guess they are useto abandoning gamers. PlayStation is the best, they offer everything from all genres and has created their own and you know they are all quality and not shovelware like on other consoles.

With a nintendo console the majority of people have low expectations in its power and features but when its a Sony device or PlayStation device peoples expectations are high and sometimes our of this world. NES fanatics will shout all day about how graphics and game tech improvements aren't needed but they are constantly upgrading their Nintendo devices showing how idiotic they are. You'll hear them say how the Wii u is barely more powerful than a 7year old device because power and graphics now matters to them because it suits them completely ignoring the fact that the Wii u is a weak device that should have been way more powerful .

[TekoIie]

Complaining about changing discs is just petty. You may as well complain about the mandatory install because that actually takes longer than swapping the disc...

Only childish fanboys complain about either of these.

[Campy da Camper]

It really depends on how many times you have to change the disc. If its just once no biggie but if you have to swap every time you go to certain areas then in open world games it can be numerous . That is when one install at beg is better

[TekoIie]

@Campy da Camper

.... And I quote "Only childish fanboys complain about either of these"....

"It really depends on how many times you have to change the disc. If its just once no biggie but if you have to swap every time you go to certain areas then in open world games it can be numerous . That is when one install at beg is better"

I really dont care. I can see im getting disagree's for talking about the mandatory install in a "bad light" by comparison to disc swapping when I was merely making a point.

This is even more pathetic than the netflix on ps3 vs 360 articles.

[Shadonic]

thats kind of stupid

[AlphaJunk]

lame

[attilayavuzer]

I don't see people complaining about Final Fantasy VII...

But really, this is a hilarious non-issue...like complaining about the rear passenger ash tray while your engine's stalling.

[GenericNameHere]

"I don't see people complaining about Final Fantasy VII..."
That was 15 years ago. Technology has advanced a lot since then... The game had all sorts of contents, that the PS1 discs weren't able to fit in all on 1 disc. With the DVD, you can fit all of FFVII on one disc, and maybe even include FFVIII and IX. With Bluray, you can fit ALL FF games in one disc.

That's how technology works. One day, you need 3 discs just to hold one game, then it becomes only 1 disc, then you are allowed to fit the entirety of something in just one disc.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

@realiks
idiotic move..

[spicelicka]

Xbox 360 has halo, and i care more about that than any other piece of entertainment on the planet, hate it or love it. Ps3 has amazing exclusives but i've finished them all at my friend's house.

So all this bullshit here doesn't matter, people buy things with sentimental value, you idiots stop wasting your life posting stats.

[otherZinc]

Again:
I'm sure Skyrim is bigger than Assassins Creed 3, its on 1 disc for 360. I'm tired of all these damn movies in games, sick of it.

Also, I'd much rather buy it for the 360, due to a massive game like Skyrim not working properly on the PS3.

And we all know how that went...

@spicelicka,
I agree.
Also, Halo:Reach & Halo 3 are massive games, equipped with a massive multiplayer, Forge Mode, Saved Films...And Massive Sandbox Campaign Co-op! And...Firefight Mode! Great thing is, it doesnt have all those damn "fmv movies" that you dont play!

[NeXXXuS]

@OP - He swings he misses.

[chriski333]

Cause Xbox is outdated so just get over it and face the facts!

[Awesome_Gamer]

I'm buying it for PS3, not because of this but because it's the only console i have right now, i sold my 360 last year.

[skyward]

Two discs are clumsy, considering it's not an issue on PS3. Too late for Blu-ray to be a console seller as far as games are concerned though - that said, if you get twice as much game, can't complain.

[Neonridr]

you're not getting twice as much game, you're getting the same amount of game on both systems. The difference is you have to change the disc at some point on the 360 where you don't have to on the PS3.

The epitomy of lazy right there..

[Kurt Russell]

Surely you get twice as much game on the xbox as it's on 2 disks! :P

[Dailynch]

I don't know if this really matters that much. There are lenty of games that ship on two discs these days and I'd much rather have that than have Ubisoft crunch everything down to fit on one tiny DVD. It's not a big deal. Just swap the discs over when it asks, done. I never minded going through the ten Amiga discs trying to get Monkey Island to work!

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Yeah it's nice to have things on one disc but like you say it's no big deal getting up to swap them.

[mcstorm]

Lol i was just thinking that. I had bump n burn on my amiga 1200 and it was something daft like 12 floppy disks and super skidmarks 2 was 6 i think. Its really not an issue taking all of 10 seconds to swap a disk. Infact people have to do this to play a different game.

People really do go on about the most pointless things on here get the version you want and let other people get the version they want and then everyone can be happy.

People need to see that the 360 ps3 wii wiiu 3ds and psv all have + and - points and none of them stand out as being the best as some are better at doing some things than others and they all own must own games and just because you think your game is better than another dose not make you right or the other person wrong as we all like differemt things in life and this is the reason we have choice.

[aPerson]

"Don't worry, there's not going to be like, disc-swapping if you get to the end of chapter 3 and having to swap over - that's not going to happen. We've separated it."

Disc 1: Single Player
Disc 2: Multi-player

[skyward]

wouldn't they just have confirmed that?

[aPerson]

True.

Unless it's a story related reason, I'm not sure why they don't want to talk about what's on each of the discs.

[KonaBro]

>2012
>still using more than one disc for a game

I don't even.

[blumatt]

It does suck, but it's not gonna change until the Xbox 720 comes out with Blu Ray probably next year.

[TemplarDante]

Reads title "Why Assassin's Creed 3 Xbox 360 Is
Shipping On Two Discs"
Answer: Microsoft said DVD would suffice this gen, despite the original Xbox having more capacity for devs to use than the 360 now?

EDIT: Im sure Kim Dotcom and Gabe Newell might have a problem with this.

For everyone else, hey, unless you're a mile away from the t.v, two steps to walk isnt that hard.Really.
Outside, where the sun is and people and stuff, its alot further than the space between your couch and your console.

Trust me.
Ive been out there... once or twice.

[Blankman85]

I played ME 2 on 360, disc swapping and all. Did it suffice? Yup, pretty much.

[MetalProxy]

Gotta love all the defensive moves the xbox crew is pulling with this issue.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

@ MetalProxy

Gotta love all this chest thumpin' the playstation crew is up to with this issue too.

You clearly have smoked too much of my product if you think any of this matters.

[KMCROC54]

Are we still making disc swaping an issue,for the love of everything that is not
holy get over it. who gives a rats ahoe about having to get up to change a
a disc bunch of
lazy ahoes. by god man its takes a total of maybe two minutes to do.
how lazy have we become as indivuials.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ah yes... Haven't seen one of these articles in a while.

1 disc... 2... Even 3. I don't care as long as the game is good.

[Bathyj]

Well I'd rather they did that than make the game smaller.

[josephayal]

I would prefer multiple disks over a developer trying to stuff everything into 1 disk.

[nihonlight]

Seriously DVD is dead. Next gen will be digital download and or bluray.

[OneAboveAll]

What is the point of being able to install the games to our 360 hard drives if we have to change discs?

If you install both discs you shouldn't have to swap discs. This is retarded.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Installing games saves you wear and tear on the disc reader plus it makes the 360 infinitely more quiet.

If you don't want to have to load discs...that is what Games on Demand is for. Games on Demand still has a ways to go in my eyes. They need better price structure. Digital downloads should be $15 - $20 cheaper on more current releases but yet they still price at the retail price point.

[OneAboveAll]

I'm aware of the wear and tear issue but if they are installed you still shouldn't have to swap discs. Second of all Games on Demand is terrible due to the simple fact if you get bored with a game you CAN'T trade it in.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@OneAboveAll... Games on Demand nor digital download isn't terrible. I do get though that you prefer physical copies for trade in purposes.

I think the swap disc thing may also be some kind of loose anti piracy tool. With needing both actual discs it makes it tougher to pirate for the layman. Those who know how, will get around it but this way you can't just rip a file off a torrent site and put it all on one disc and try to install off it...then just have one boot disc.

BUT that all said... I would prefer if they also just allowed for one install and insert 1 disc to run the whole game.

[Bloodraid]

You do realize that the stuff that you're installing is read from the disc, right? It doesn't just poof out of nowhere because you threw the disc in.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

20 minutes for install I have never gone thru that long of a period since I got my ps3 back in 06, also last time I swap cd was on sega cd era,who remember tom cat alley and the boxing game and everything was fmv

[Bloodraid]

Heavy Rain? Metal Gear Solid 4? Gran Turismo 5? DMC4?

I remember all of these games having rather long mandatory install times.

I also seem to remember MAG having a long install time as well, though that may have been the beta installer.

[JAMurida]

Ugh... Please don't remind me about the long MAG updates/install times.....

[FunkMacNasty]

Once again, people who are not affected by this are the ones complaining the loudest, and those who only own an Xbox are content to play the game regardless.

[SandwichHammock]

They don't go into details how it will work. If its a install disc and a play disc, how does that work on boxes without a HDD or with that 4gb stick?

Multiple Discs? No problem! ...but a 5-7 min one time install on a competing system... well, that's just ridiculous. Imma write another "Mandatory Install Size REVEALED For <input your choice of game>...Mandatory! Nazis!" I'll take another bowl of apologist hypocrite soup please. Delicious.

[medziarz]

Oh man!

Assassin's Creed 3 will follow Resident Evil 6, Battlefield 3, Rage and Mass Effect 3 when arrives via two discs for Xbox 360

[NastyLeftHook0]

its sad...its 2012!!

[M1chl]

Right games should be on more DVDs. I would say its nice, they don't sacrifice quality of content due to limited space.

[srcBFMVBMTH]

Agreed, having multiple discs combined with the possibility of scratching them by just nudging the 360 ever so slightly. lol

*Gets up to swap singleplayer with multi.

*Accidently nudges 360.

*Watch helplessly as the sound 1000 garbage
disposals commence.

*"I CAN'T PLAY SINGLEPLAYER ANYMORE!!!!! FUUUUUUUU!!!!!"

Happened to many of my friends actually. lmao.

[_Aarix_]

Whats sad is that its 2012 and people like you are bitching about it. Ive been happily gone, sold my ps3 and been enjoying the hell out of my xbox for months and there still is delusion on here.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Its a 2005 console. Theyre keeping the quality and quanity. If it doesnt affect you then you dont have bitching merits

[stage88]

@_Aarix_

"sold my ps3 and been enjoying the hell out of my xbox"

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Stop trying so hard. It's just embarrassing.

[WetN00dle69]

@srcBFMVBMTH

Then that would be your fck up and not the systems. OHH and i dont know if you know but you can always install the game to the hard drive. That helps by faster loading and the game stops spinning after 10 or so minutes so you can nudge all you want. LOL seriously man some of you need to come up with better stuff to bitch about.

[WetN00dle69]

LMFAO!!!! The second disk in RE6 has NOTHING and i do mean NOTHING to do with the game itself. That disk contains extra languages. Nothing more and nothing less.....man some of you people should do research before typing stupid comments.

[Captain Tuttle]

Ugh, the era of two disc games needs to go. Hurry up next-gen

[NastyLeftHook0]

yes its not good

[d3nworth1]

Why is the game on to disc? Cuz it obviously couldnt fit on onw. duh!

[DivineAssault]

Its not a HUGE deal to swap discs but it does piss u off if your in the middle of something good & that screen pops up.. Or if your playing a campaign one day, shut it of, & want to fire up multiplayer but forgot the 1st disc was in.. Thats annoying too.. Its not hard to swap but inconvenient.. Plus installing 2 discs of a game instead of partially installing one eats up HDD space.. If the game requires repeated disc swapping, that is something thats unacceptable.. One time is all it should take...Nope, never buying xbox games ever again.. Plus i dont like paying for gold either.. PS3 all the way.. & liberation for vita

[XHeavygunX]

I buy open world games on Xbox from now on except assassins creed 3. I will pick it up on the wiiu. I have a ps3 but I refuse to get open world games on it unless it is exclusives because of the skyrim incident.

[wastedcells]

Time flies, sometimes forget xbox still uses DVDs.

[ForRealz17]

Fail!

[Cam977]

Change the title to "why Ps3 is better" 😄

[NastyLeftHook0]

wow, i know what version im getting.

[sdplisken]

ps3 and the HD standard format FTW
if you dont agree then have fun swapping discs lol

[Dorwrath]

Oh my god, someone has actually got to get off their ass and change a disk.

[Omnislash]

Hey no joke, my friend threw out his back doing that LOL!!!

[JustInTlME]

How lazy must one be to complain about having to get up off your ass ONCE to change a disc?!?

[YodaCracker]

I can honestly say that out of the small fraction of 360 games that ship on more than one disc, only once has disc swapping affected my experience. And that was with Dead Space 2 where having 2 discs actually ended up improving my experience! I was going for the achievement where you must complete the game on hard with only 3 saves. The disc swap counted as a free checkpoint!

As usual, the only people upset about having to swap discs are the people who don't even own an Xbox 360! How ironic... No, how sad.

[clevernickname]

Not really an issue. The real question for me is whether the AnvilNext engine will mean graphical parity, or closer graphical parity, to the 360 than previous Assassin's Creed games.

[SSKILLZ]

haha enjoy swapping discs maybe you will get an achievement

[NotSoSilentBob]

This has happened before with other games. RAGE for example. DVD is past its prime and this only liens more strength to that argument.

[cliffyboy21]

most people feel that they have to have both systems just to play that one game thats not on that other system which i can do without, i see no point in having 2 systems especially when im not that much of a gamer. playstation was my first system cus thats when i started playing games, then i got ps2 because it had better exclusives and more games, i like 360 but i picked ps3 cuz i was impressed with ps 1 and 2 and playstiaon hasnt dissapointed me yet so why switch you know the old saying if it aint broke dont fix it. plus i liked the features ps3 had better

[ChunkyLover53]

I remember in previous gaming generations when a game had more than one disk people were excited, it meant you were getting a lot of content. Only is it now a bad thing, and the reason its supposedly bad is because you'll have to switch a disk and take 5 seconds out of your game to do so.

I own over 200 Xbox 360 games, AC3 will be the 10th game with multiple disks, its not a huge problem. I wont have to mandatory install anything, no long updates, I can go home, pop the game in the Xbox 360 and play it.

Why do people still act like this is such a huge deal? Yet real annoying things like mandatory installs and updates and then installs are nothing? I guess it just goes to show the nature of this site.

[CernaML]

I don't know where you got that information from but I've hated multi disc games since the PS1 days.

But to defend it and take a shot at installations just shows how biased you are. Neither are any good and neither should make anyone so defensive.

[ChunkyLover53]

Are you joking? We actually felt like we were getting our money's worth with games like Metal Gear Solid and Shenmue.

I'm not biased, I'm using it as a comparison, I find it funny that people poke fun at the Xbox 360 when you have to swap a disk, but nobody says a thing about mandatory installs or constant updates and installs.

More content is good, I'd rather swap a disk then have a game be gimped.

[NeotheGamer]

2 Verbatim DVD+R DL it is then

[IQUITN4G]

I'm seriously thinking of committing suicide over this as it practically forces me to sell my xbox in favour of getting a PS3. I'm not sure if it's actually even possible to cope with act of swapping a dvd over and I predict some gamers will seek counselling

[BitbyDeath]

Youtube or it didn't happen

[Neko_Mega]

Reason why I like using PS3 for other games, I use 360 for their main games. Gears and Halo ^-^ can't go wrong with that.

[BitbyDeath]

Thread sure seems to be bringing the ugly side of N4G out.

Disc swapping won't be fixed until MS moves onto blu-ray nextgen, no amount of whinging or complaining will fix this. And who cares is it really that hard to do?

Now for all the defensive people, mandatory installs are still in almost every PC game, why is it an issue for one and not the other?

Seriously a lot of you need to grow-up, there are far bigger issues in this world to get worked up on.

[Psychotica]

Though I am going to buy it on the PC, I do own both consoles and would definitely get it on the PS3 assuming the game looked as good as the 360.

[baodeus]

No wonder people has an image that gamers are all fat a$%, Dorritos junky, and play game on their filthy couch all day.

[PAYNEinc85]

Bring on multiple discs. The quicker microsoft realizes their console is outdated the quicker they'll get off their asses and do something about it. Maybe. I'm an xbox player btw. Just not a blind fanboy.

[SlavisH2]

So Ps3>pc &360 because they use DVD? Lol wow whatever it takes to make u feel better about your purchase. There will probably be a digital version so no disc at all.

[urwifeminder]

So all the past consoles that made you change disks sucked ?ok ill have to remember that about ps1 and 2. How many pc games have released on bluray? its really taken off .

[AlucardFury]

No wonder obesity is high in the world, people bitch
about standing up and switching a disk.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I can't help but to think how 360's games could benefit if MS would've made the HD-DVD drive standard in the console!

I mean the disc was destined to fail regardless, but the games most likely could've benefited pretty damn good from its inclusion!

[NeotheGamer]

and it would be pretty damn hard to pirate games too (if they used HD-DVD)

[boribori311]

omg stop complaining, you can burn ay least some calories gettingg up, i remember doom two having a buncha floppy disks lol

[jaixvx]

My friends xbox scratched the hell out of his 2nd disc for max payne rendering it useless. Third time this has happened to him. haha

[Psycho_Mantis]

Now, is it just me...or am i the only one who got a real hard on when reading this? lol

[PersonMan]

Well, I'm satisfied with single discs for games.

Like it or not... it's STILL a perk to have the entire game on one disc.

Just because it takes 10 seconds to swap a disc out, I don't even have to think about swapping discs on my PS3.

[Xenomorph]

More storage=more game, simple as that

[OooHJohnny]

I'm a PS3 fanboy and I say : swapping discs is not a big deal...

[devilhunterx]

It must be tough being a member of the XDF.

[Man-E-Faces]

I don't know how anyone can defend this, it's always been proof in my mind that Microsoft shitted out their console with only 1 thing in mind not to progress the gaming experience but to quickly muscle market share from Sony/Nintendo at the expense of gamers. In my eyes the 360 is nothing more than a mildly better graphically Xbox it added nothing as PS3 did from PS2 in fact in many areas it took steps back. Topple this with the horrid broken off the assembly line launch hardware, dated disc capacity, AA batteries for a controller yeah don't bring up the rechargeable pack that needs to be bought separate and bulges out, if anything that should have been integrated internally not externally, propriety hard drives, yet look at them now they try to now push the 360 as an all entertainment hub, well if your going to push this your going to need lots of GB's at affordable prices idiot's otherwise it's PS3/PC where this stuff wins out on. Sony took a lot of heat for their hard to program and expensive console this gen but got damn did Ken Kutaragi take the right steps in crafting in my opinion an "EXQUISITE" console that will be remembered as 1 of my favorites all time, the launch fat model I am referring to.

[memphis2]

another reason why the ps3 is superior lol. hd dvd has been of the market since it came out.

not all games will allow you install on the hard drive for 360.

[MaximusPrime]

HDDVD? Or just DVD? Which are you referring?

[memphis2]

HD DVD

[kingPoS]

Rock Paper Scissors
Each one has strengths & weaknesses.

Take your pick. I've already made my choice with a rock solid ps3 (excuse the pun)lol

[MaximusPrime]

Thank you for stating the obvious.

[-IronMan-]

PS3 da best. I have a PC and PS3 is all i need. Sold my old tech 360.

[RedSoakedSponge]

hopefully this just means single player and multiplayer are on separate disks and thats all.

[Animal Mutha 76]

I really don't understand the fuss and the lazy attitude of some people on here regarding the need to change a disc or why this should even be news worthy.

2 discs. So what? LA Noire was on 3. Did it ruin my game? No. Xbox allows installs anyway so just install both discs quickly and then you might just need disc 2 in for certain missions.

Yeah sure a larger capacity drive in 360 would be nice but it doesn't matter now. The expanded profile DVD is fine for most current gen titles. The next Xbox is rumoured to have a 50g BR and that might not be enough by the end of the next gen but hey it's only a disc swap. Wearing out drives - crap.

Some of my games on Amiga years ago came on 4-6 disks with constant swaps for level loading.

Some of you lot don't know how good you have it.

Let's just look forward to the game on our respective systems and cut back on these stupid non event 'news' items.