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Has The PS4 Just Been Shown?

MasonicGamer.com: Reports are in from attendees of this evening’s Metal Gear Solid 25th anniversary event in Japan. The highlight was a new MGS game and that game was Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes. Could we have seen the PS4 in action?

Reports state that

“Just saw stuff we can’t tweet about? Will give impressions later.” & “Demo of “Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes”, started w cutscene (all realtime), went into gameplay, open world, night, raining, base. AMAZING”

We reached out to the some of the attendes to find out what was seen.....

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wwm0nkey4250d ago

From what I understand they showed it on a current gen PC and the target platforms are the current gen systems (PS3/360)

MasonicGamer4250d ago

The demo was shown on PC but could this have been a PS4 dev Kit?

TrevorPhillips4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

Could've been and not only that, it was running on "Fox Engine".

jaosobno4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

@wwm0nkey

Actually, demo was running on a high end PC and no platforms were mentioned:

http://www.vg247.com/2012/0...

And if the game looks anything like that first released pic, this gen can't pull that off.

NewMonday4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

Konami will demo the high end version for now, they know by the time of release the new consoles will be out, but they will still have a lower version out for PS3 and 360.

the same strategy Ubi are using with marketing Watch Dogs, i think other publishers will do the same, release games on the new consoles and the old.

thrashermario4250d ago

EWW a freemason, STAHP trying to take over the world and enslaving humanity, STAHP!!!!!!!

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SynGamer4250d ago

Current-gen PCs are WAY better than the PS3 and 360. We're talking almost 7 years in terms of specs evolving. A "current-gen" PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360 and could easily be close to what the new consoles will have.

pompombrum4250d ago

Wow there is one person (who disagreed) living in denial. Wanna see the difference between current gen consoles and PC? Go compare battlefield 3.

THESONYPS34250d ago

@aiBreeze Crysis one looks better than Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 will blow BF3 away.

JAM_brz4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

Rumors suggests that the "PS4/Xbox720" don´t will be as powefull as the current PC we already have today.
But maybe Konami is cheating us and running the new MGS in a PS4. Who knows.

Raf1k14250d ago

I would love for this to come out on PC. Think of how awesome it would look. Since they were using current gen PC instead of a console it could be they have a PC version in the works with PC specific features.

I'm hoping that's the case but if it isn't I'll be more than happy to get it on PS3.

decrypt4250d ago

"A "current-gen" PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360 and could easily be close to what the new consoles will have."

I think current gen PCs would easily destroy next gen consoles. Reasons are simple, i dont think next gen consoles will be a huge leap.

1. Cost constraints- Both the console makers have learnt their lesson, they know console gamers dont care about graphics, hence investing too much into powerful hardware is a waste of resources and only leads to selling hardware at a loss.

2. Even if they want to pack powerful hardware, they cant. Heat and power requirements on new hardware is significantly higher then what it used to be few years back. They would some how need to defy physics if they are to put a high powered GPU into the contrained box of a console. Also people should consider looking at the kind of PSUs that go into PC to powerup the same graphics cards. The plastic PSUs within consoles would never be able to supply enough power power up a beastly GPU of today.

Console makers would have to significantly increase the sizes of their boxes inorder to improve airflow and accomodate much larger PSUs if they are to increase power significantly. Other wise they will just be looking for RRODs and YLOD to happen.

Dms20124250d ago

Why would anyone disagree with that? It's not even your opinion, its simply a fact. It's like saying that a Nokia phone I had back in 2005 is as good as my Galaxy S Blaze.

Brosy4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

@decrypt
Where do you get that console gamers dont care about graphics? Im a console gamer and I care about graphics. What I dont care about is the hassle it takes to be a PC gamer. But I like good graphics just like anyone else. It doesnt take a console as much to have good quality graphics as it does a PC. So the console makers shouldnt have any trouble producing next-gen graphics. You should go watch the Unreal Engine 4 demo, and the newest Star Wars 1313 videos, they look freakin amazing.

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T9004250d ago

@cmonbreal

"I agree brosy. I have a PC that can run most current gen PC games just not at their highest settings, and this pc cost me almost 3,000 when i first purchased it a few years back."

This is simply a lie or you got scammed big time. A 700usd PC from 3-4 years back can still play most games out today in 1080p. You can check tomshardware.com they have 500usd builds that play most games out today in 1080p. So i dont see how you could have spent 3000usd and still not able to play maxed out.

Making claims of having to update every year are simply false. You seem more like the people who try to give PC gaming a bad name in regards to costs and upgrades. A properly made PC can easily last 4-5 years with no upgrades and still out play consoles in every game.

one2thr4250d ago

@T900
Everything on Pc can be done at 1080p but that doesnt necessarily mean that it'll look good.

Like Fallout New Vegas, I can play it at 1080p(or higher rez) an it still looks like rubbish compared to lets say Heavy Rain which is at 720p.

Whats the sense of bragging about resolutions when some games look like crap?

Games worth playing at 1080:
BF3
Blacklight retribution
LA Noir
GTA4
ARMA
Arkham City
And many more, but not all games played at 1080p look good

Kidmyst4250d ago

@T900 he probably bought Alienware, highly overpriced gaming PC's from them can easily cost way more than they should.

But I agree with T900, I build gaming PC's once every 4-5 years and built one for BF3, I go with the best I can afford so all I need to upgrade is the Graphics cards. CPU, Mobo and Ram all at stock setting now but can also be overclocked in case the 4-5 year marks push the PC. But with a Quadcore, 8GB of RAM (can run up to 16GB), Overclockers Mobo,SSD HDD's and a huge power supply. I'm set for a while all for around $1,500 with modding my own case and custom painted it too.
Never buying a PC again, will always build.

hellvaguy4250d ago

"current-gen PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360"

Problem with this statement is that for all the power of pc's, the vast majority of software doesnt maximize its potential because its such a fragmented audience. Adiitionally, windows is a pretty big resource hog too.

Maddens Raiders4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

Who cares? If you want to play crappy 3rd party games, a paltry offering of console exclusives, or PC only games get a PC or MS product. If you want to play 1st party Sony exclusives you get a PlayStation. Simple.

_-EDMIX-_4250d ago

Whats even funnier is a "current gen" PC is technically by now a next gen console in terms of tech.

tee_bag2424249d ago

Decrypt is on the money with his comment.
The PSU is a dead give away as to what sort of GPU its going to have.
If you want to find out more, find out what PSU its going to have.

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DeadlyFire4250d ago (Edited 4250d ago )

I don't see this coming to current gen. Target my ass. Its like Star Wars 1313, and Watch Dogs. I question the game Remember Me as well. They are both Next-gen games, but they have to say they are current gen until the NDA for next gen platforms is gone!

I don't see how PS4 should be the main relevance. It could easily be on Xbox 3 or WiiU hardware as well. Developers can only show their new games on PC hardware because the next gen tech isn't here to show it off.

wwm0nkey4250d ago

Well FOX Engine already runs on PS3 and 360 so if this is running on FOX Engine (which it is) then it can easily come to those platforms.

However I would like for them to hold off until the PS4/720 hit.

DeadlyFire4250d ago

I guess I should rephrase that to I don't see this Just coming to this gen. PS3/X360 will get a port of it from newer hardware down to them.

If it was using High end PC to demo the engine. They likely plan for next gen launch of it as well as even Cloud.

MostJadedGamer4250d ago

I don't think the PS4 will make it out til 2014. I don't see it coming next year. Though its obvious the 720 will be out next year.

_-EDMIX-_4250d ago

? Despite Sony stating they wanted to be first or at least no a year away from MS system?

Buddy, PS4 i can assure you will be announced in 2013 and probably released then too.

RevXM4249d ago

@ _-EDMIX-_

Lately they have said that the ps4 will release when the technology can perform a significant leap so the experience will be significantly different.
"The right time to talk about new advances in hardware is when you can demonstrate a significant leap on the current experience, and something that is going to be attractive."
- Andrew House

“We've never been first. We've never been cheapest. It's about being the best”
- Jack Tretton -

With the ps3 being a beast and the vita being a beast, also with these two recent quotes as a good indication that Ps4 wont dissapoint anyone in terms of power and features Id say that ps4 will possibly be the last one out but we will have to wait and see.

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TrevorPhillips4250d ago

Could be a next gen game, it'll be sweet to see it on the PS4 and 720 though =]

TheLyonKing4250d ago

If its a solid title is that not ps4/3 exclusive or is it confirmed for both ms and Sony platform?

wwm0nkey4250d ago

No Kojima wants the series to be multi-platform which is why the Fox Engine was being developed as a multi-platform engine in the first place.

Also Sony do not own the copyright to Metal Gear Solid or else there is no way we would have gotten the HD collection on the 360.

TheLyonKing4250d ago

@wwm0nkey thanks for the info, didn't know. At least someone gave an answer instead of just disagree.

LOL_WUT4250d ago

@ TheLyonKing Well, since the guy demoed the game on PC with a 360 controller then you can pretty much assume its coming out for the Xbox also.

DeadlyFire4250d ago

Well Fox engine is multiplatform.

yewles14250d ago

They said it was a PC set to current gen spec.

0pie4250d ago

stupid article... dont even click on the link, dont waste your time.

Batzi4250d ago

Fox Engine in its state now is ready for current gen consoles and that was the aim in the first place.

BitbyDeath4250d ago

Is strange they'd make an entire new engine for just one game considering they'd have to do it all over again for their nextgen one

Batzi4250d ago

ah no. Konami confirmed that they are going to modify the engine for next-gen during the development of the game.

lategamer4250d ago

The engine may be scalable like Frostbite 2. We really don't have much information on the engine.

RedDeadLB4250d ago

Metal Gear Solid 4 rings a bell? They built an engine solely for that game and unfortunately abandoned it afterwards.

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel1984337d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus337d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken336d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm337d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake336d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername336d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan337d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen337d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus337d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183336d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies337d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE336d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer337d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga336d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer336d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb337d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot395d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman395d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola395d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad395d ago (Edited 395d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69394d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17395d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger394d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall395d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest566d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade566d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam566d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty566d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot566d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard567d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop567d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop567d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17567d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name567d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver567d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048567d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor567d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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