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Debate: does PS3 need Gran Turismo 6 or should it wait for PS4?

It’s debate time as Phil and Dave argue over whether we want to see Gran Turismo 6 on PS3 now, or wait a bit to see what PS4 brings. How patient are you?

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wishingW3L4271d ago

PS4. GT5 is goldlike. I know they would be able to improve a couple of things here and there but nothing worth a sequel. GT6 should already be in development for PS4.

Abash4271d ago

GT5 is still selling well, GT6 should be released on PS4

darthv724271d ago

you had two GT games on the ps1 and then two more on the ps2. Now the initial release on each platform were the better received versions.

I'd say sony should hold off the next GT for the next PS just to ensure it will have a solid sell through. I mean looking at the sales of the GT series you had GT1 outsell GT2 and then GT3 outsell GT4.

Sony wouldnt want to jeopardize the amount of time and $$ invested in GT6 only to have it come up short in comparison to GT5. That is just from a business POV.

from the gamer POV I would like to see what kind of enhancements the team can do on next gen hardware. Yes they could make improvements like ND did with the uncharted series over time but...do we want improvements or do we want something revolutionary?

Revolutionary can only come from a new platform. If it were to come out on the existing platform it would be considered evolutionary instead. Doesnt mean it wouldnt be good but there would always be that...what if...thought in peoples minds.

sikbeta4271d ago

GT5 is great but could be better, with a more powerful console PD can do even more awesome stuff, so GT6 for PS4 please.

Larry L4271d ago (Edited 4271d ago )

I still play GT5 daily. Personally, I'm fine either way. But if GT6 is going to be a PS4 game, I want more track DLC for GT5.

There are positives either way it ends up going down. For the future of PS4, Sony couldn't POSSIBLY get a better scenario than GT6 being a PS4 launch/window game. GT fans are hardcore, and if that were the case it would guarantee Sony millions of hardware and software sales right out of the gate.

On the other hand GT6 being a late PS3 game also has some major positives. One being PD and Yamauchi-san saving face. Now I'm not saying GT5 was some failure like fanboys on the web like to say it is. but the fact is that GT5 was one of the first ever PS3 games in development. The engine for GT5 was complete long before developers like Guerilla, Naughty Dog, Insolmniac and Santa Monica unlocked the secrets of the PS3's hardware. Their knowledge couldn't help GT5 due to the timeframes not lining up.

If GT6 were on PS3 what you would see is all that Sony 1st party knowledge of PS3's hardware being put to use in GT6, where it couldn't be put to use in GT5. Sure they made graphical adjustments to GT5 through patching in what they could. But you can't just patch into a completed game's engine the kind of software technology that makes games like GoW3, Killzone 2 and 3 and Uncharted 2 and 3 so visually stunning. That stuff can only be added to an engine when you're starting a new game.

Another advantage to GT6 being on PS3 would be sales for the game. Regardless of how many GT fanboys like myself would buy PS4 at launch just for GT6, PS3 now has a huge install base, so no matter what GT6 sales would be much greater on PS3 than PS4.

GT6 being on PS4 would be great for Sony getting PS4 off the ground. GT6 would be like a Saturn V rocket in that sense. And it would be great for PS4 early adopters to have such a high quality game at launch/in the launch window. But it wouldn't be so great for GT fans on PS3 because they never got a GT on PS3 that is IMO up to the potential of a GT on PS3.

GT6 being on PS3 would be great for gamers because you're going to get a GT up to that PS3 standard we all know it could reach. It would be great for Sony and PD in terms of sales and getting Gran Turismo's reputation back on top before next gen. But it would be bad in the sense that if GT6 comes out on PS3, it's going to be a long time into PS4's lifecycle, before a GT comes out for that hardware.

All around, it would be better for everyone as a whole for GT6 to be a PS3 game. But it would be better for PS4 itself and us gamers next gen if it were a PS4 game. I'm not exactly sure which scenario I'm in favor of when I think it through. But what I and sure of is that Sony and PD need to make their decision ASAP and let the public know. ANd if it is going to be a PS4 game.......I want more GT5 tracks in the meantime.

Ares84HU4271d ago (Edited 4271d ago )

I think it'll be on PS5. /sarcasm

Look how long it took them to release a single GT game on the PS3. On PS1 you had two GT games, on PS2 the same..... but the development of GT5 took ages and a lot of the tracks were just HD remakes of PS2 GT tracks. Also, not all cars were made the same way, some looked better than others.

So, I don't know if they will be able to release a GT6 on PS3.

Maybe they need a bigger team or more time....don't know.

IRetrouk4271d ago

The first gt took 5 years the 3rd also took a while, new hardware usually means longer dev times for the first games, I want a gt 6 this gen but it's probs not gonna happen, even though they have said they are working on it

Outside_ofthe_Box4271d ago

Whenever it's ready. If it's ready for the PS3 then release it on the PS3. If not then release it on the PS4.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar423d ago (Edited 423d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk423d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account423d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk423d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood423d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer423d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood423d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk423d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood422d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa422d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit423d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic422d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit422d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic422d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin422d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow633d ago (Edited 633d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989633d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow633d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989633d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled633d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher633d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim633d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow633d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721700d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1700d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1700d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1700d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921700d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1700d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1700d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1699d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821701d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1700d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1700d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1700d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1700d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1700d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1700d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1700d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1699d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1699d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1700d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1700d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1700d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1700d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1700d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1700d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811700d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1700d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1700d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1700d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1700d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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