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Unreal Engine 4 games could be ported to Wii U - Epic

Epic Games doesn't intend "to bring Unreal Engine 4 to Wii U," the firm's vice-president Mark Rein has stated, but the engine could run on Nintendo's upcoming console "if a customer decides they want to port an Unreal Engine 4 game" to the hardware.

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VanillaBear4298d ago

If you made a game for the PC, Nextbox and PS4 which was praised for the use of the UE4 engine and it's graphics why would people then want a dumbed down port for the Wii U when they could get a PC, PS4, Nextbox and play the game to it's full potential.

I'd very confident the Nextbox and PS4 will support the UE4 because theres no way after how much the UE3 is used this gen by developers Epic would miss out next gen all together.

PopRocks3594298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

So first it was that you insisted Wii U didn't support the engine at all and now the issue is "dumbed down ports."

You thrive off of bottom feeding, don't you. You can't even be bothered to admit that you were wrong about whether or not Wii U could even run the engine.

WeskerChildReborned4298d ago

Right now, no one even knows if it can or if it will run the engine. It's like what is being said about the Wii U how some devs praise it and how others say otherwise.

Sono4214298d ago

@VanillaBear
Wait whats wrong with UE3 in the first place?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also Epic themselves said:

"Rein added that the firm's GDC 2011 Samaritan demo, which showed a cyberpunk peacekeeper battling thugs in a gritty city street, "was a demo to show what we think the consoles should... what we would like the next gen consoles to be able to do."

So.... they expect next gen consoles to do what the UE3 does.. what makes you bring up UE4 in the first place? Especially on unannounced consoles? Seems like epic is expecting all next gen consoles to run UE3 that includes your "Nextbox and PS4". Also just read this:

"Epic Games' vice-president Mark Rein has confirmed that the company has been in talks with Sony and Microsoft to help "shape" the next-generation of consoles"

hm.. and they expect them to use UE3.. maybe they know what they're talking about?

mike1up4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Do you read the articles, skim through them, or just make things up?

--- Epic Games' senior PR manager Dana Cowley added that, "beyond the PC, we haven't confirmed any other platforms for Unreal Engine 4."

PS4 and Nextbox aren't confirmed to run UE4 either! UE4 wasn't made "supremely scalable" just because of Nintendo. Smart phones, and you're precious PS4/Nextbox will probably be using the same downscaled versions.

Machioto4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

@mr mike this does not confirm any thing about the ps4 or nextbox because if epic is not making a game for those systems I doubt they would know the specs.

@wesker the rumored gpu of the wiiu is a custom radeon e6760 whick is a under clocked radeon 6670.

@sider I assuming with all devs but one of guys developing resistance ps vista was given a reference sample of the vita before it came out to make the game if the retail vita is either weaker or stronger than the sample then they can't optimize for it.

@mike as tech advances you get better performance and efficiency for what ever purchase prior the hardware being released.

ChickeyCantor4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

"if epic is not making a game for those systems I doubt they would know the specs. "

Completely irrelevant.

It's hardware, they take the specs and optimize their engine to it. It's scalable for a reason. You don't need to make a game for it in order to build a SDK for it. They have every right to buy a Nintendo license. And it's only good business sense for both of them.

mike1up4298d ago

@Machioto

True, and fair enough, I have no idea what the specs are. I do, however, think that a downscaled UE4 is the most logical course of action... unless you want to spend $800 -$1,000 on a console?

Machioto4298d ago

@ sidar I mean they can't properly optimize for it because they don't know the exact specs.

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Jadedz4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Both the Xbox 360 and PS3, got "dumb downed ports", compared to its PC brethren.

You're being extremely bias.

Axonometri4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

It's funny though isn't it. I'm sitting behind a core 2 duo 8800gtx 2 GB PC terms "dinosaur," and I still prefer to play titles on it because it simply does things way beyond what all 3 consoles in the other room can do...visually and more.

It is no wonder that Epic is calling for massive leap in hardware from platform manufactures.

joab7774298d ago

Absolutely. To be honest, I am more worried everyday that consoles will b frightened to go to big because of the pricepoint. It has to have the capability to use luminous and UE4...mandatory.No one ever writes about the fact that there is a way to release a console for a good price but guarantee that it is able to keep up and even push technology. Make it upgradeable. Microsoft's memo mentions scalable but I am not sure if it means hardware. Wouldn't Microsoft love to new able to sell memory or graphics cards. It would new finite but it could compare to low, medium and high settings on a pc. Or sell different models. People buy Xbox or ps for different reasons hence the size of the harddrive. It seems simple and it won't make the generation love forever but will make it much better and more lucrative.

metroid324298d ago

Now he didnt say dubbed down ports he said the wiiu can handle it in other words i'll tell you something a Ubisoft employee has already ported the UE4 to the WiiU ?? your a bit behind on the news arnt you.

JBSleek4298d ago

Why would someone port a game to another console to try to increase their sales. I know what is everyone thinking right. How dare they send a popular game to more gamers. /s

taquito4298d ago

@vanillabear

epic does it on the port from pc to 360/ps3 all the time, gears of war 1 on pc looks a full generation beyond gears 3, they had to "dumb down" the ue3 engine like crazy to get it to run on consoles.

batman ac on pc, dude, it looks amazing, on consoles it looks good, but it was certainly "dumbed down"

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Axonometri4298d ago

Epic's UDK is scalable. They have built in tools to scale back for other devices right within their engine. I think they are just choosing not to add those tools for the Wii U and leaving that possibility to a client who wishes to do so.

Epic are smart and Wii U, like it or not, is Gap-Gen in terms of hardware. Nintendo, by self proclamation, are not interested in pushing hardware boundaries but prefer to push unique game play ideas. Epic on the other hand has always been pushing the tech to the edge. That is what they are and do.

metroid324298d ago

Look its a true next gen console

Compute shader 11
Shader model 5.0
OpenGl 4.1
32MB Edram
HD3D
Eyefinity
2 gig of ram

this is next gen compared to ps3/360 and if you wait 5 years obviously you can get a more powerful console as you just skipped an entire generation the next WiiU will be out a few years later HOW STUPID.

And there is a CE3 game being made now as we speak for WiiU cryteks words and its looking very special ? Goolgle it.

Axonometri4298d ago

Show me the official statement from Nintendo with those specs in the document

bobshi4298d ago

I'm surprised this has a lot of disagrees compared to agrees.

This is one of the few true comments on here.

As you say the UDK is fully scalable - it supports mobile devices for example.

There is no reason why the Wii U could not therefore be able to run UE4 in terms of the technical limitations it provides, but weather or not Epic provide the in-built tools to do it is another matter.

metroid324296d ago

Well UE4 is now confirmed to run on WiiU Mark reins words and they havnt got anything for yhe wiiu from epic but other partners can use UE4 on wiiu if they want sothere UE4 can run on wiiu maybe just in 720p/60fps so thats cleared up then ?

I would much prefer a True HD console this year that supports CE3 to the MAX and can handle UE4 to a good level than wait 3 years just so i can play the same wiiu games at 1080p ?? who cares,Microsoft/Sony are almost skipping a generation for more power means they have neen beaten by Nintendo from the OFF no one speaks about that way of looking at it do they ????

Skateboard4298d ago

I don't mean to be negative, but i hate the Unreal Engine. It looks so bulky and fake. Of course Wii U is next gen it's coming out 2012 am i right ? don't listen to the trolls Nintendo fans.

Shok4298d ago

^A wielder of common sense?

corrus4298d ago

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mike1up4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Wow... awesome spec rumors! Do you read them in the bathroom? I guess you win the argument because those rumors are so awesome!

While you're at it, what are the WiiU spec rumors? Let me guess, bad right?

... lame troll. That has nothing to do with this article at all!

yabhero4298d ago

If there is any mainstream consumer electronics that have a 16 core processor in them i will sell 3 of my favorties game sof all time...

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

This article explains some of the cold-nature that Crytech and EPIC share toward NINTENDO.

It's just Business, you know, "Love your money/ hate your politics."

I am sure, Square/Enix will support Wii U with their new Engine too.

But like I said... LoZ:SS Gameplay, would EASILY make me not care about any of them.

This Article too:
http://n4g.com/news/1035794...

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.