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Metal Gear Solid 4 Best Version Adds Full Install Support

Trophies aren't the only surprise feature Konami is readying for Metal Gear Solid 4. The game's new PS3 the Best budget version will also feature support for full data install.

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Irishguy954298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Gud. Might finally replay it now

Edit--I actually find it shocking people will moan about Multiple disks and let this game away with 5 separate installs for a playthrough. Thank God this is getting done finally, shoulda came with the game.

3dawg4298d ago

i replayed this game to death unlocked every single emblem and collected every weapons. they better not put a trophy asking for all the emblems but im guessing they will. lol. im ready coz it has been a while

Eyesoftheraven4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Damn, that's some hard gaming work! Props to you!

Nitrowolf24298d ago

me 2, but it's been years so I suppose it will be worth it again.

I hope they can patch the install in, otherwise I might go out and buy this version.

morganfell4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

It isn't just there, look at this:

http://www.konami.jp/mgs4/j...

I am laughing at all of the doubters from the earlier story.

Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk.

Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads.

CommonSense4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

why would you be laughing at the "doubters?" isn't their doubt justified? how many times over the years have we heard this before?

sure, this seems more concrete (and, if true, will give me a reason to play through for a 4th time), but why criticize people for learning lessons from recent history?

"Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk. "

he got it just fine, if you ask me. he simply said why criticize disk swapping over loading times. especially since disk swapping takes 5 seconds, and those MGS4 load screens took 3+ minutes.

"Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads."

this is just flat out hypocrisy. AND, nobody was attacking anything. maybe you shouldn't take things that have nothing to do with you so personally.

Diver4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

if people knew anything they would understand that adriansang isn't kotaku. they don't do hit generation for web clicks. but as will rogers said" common sense ain't common"

and morg is dead bang on about people coming into ps3 threads to constantly attack. just sick of it.

2pacalypsenow4298d ago

i was gonna do that but then i thought they might release a trophies patch so i was saving the hardest difficulty for that

ziggurcat4298d ago

i believe if you still have the save files from your current copy, once it's patched to have trophy support it'll check your saved game data, and you'll get all of the trophies you may have accomplished.

knowing kojima, and the trophy list from the HD collection, there's likely going to be a trophy to collect all of the emblems.

tordavis4298d ago

Who in the hell is attacking? One of the biggest flaws of MGS4 was waiting for those damn installs. That was just bad game design. I would have rather installed the whole thing or swapped discs because it would have been faster. Oh and one more thing on swapping discs...you have to do that every time you change a game so really, what's the big deal?

LightofDarkness4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

@tor: it's useless. People like Morganfell can never admit to or perhaps even see faults in anything PS3 related. He is one of the old die-hards, and it is useless trying to have rational conversations with people like him (same goes for powerofgreen and his many aliases, darksniper, zhuk etc). Fanboys will be fanboys.

And you're absolutely right, those installs were far more annoying than a simple disc swap. Plus, they invalidated the whole joke about disc swaps made in the game (I think that was in Act 4).

mewhy324298d ago

Wow. The very title of this article is "trolling". It should've never been approved with that title. The information is good but the the title is clearly trolling. I'm a little disappointed in the clear ps3 slant here on a 'News' website.

Irishguy954298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

**** of all the articles I pick not to read, this one has to be the most misleading. We have to rebuy MGS4 if we want to install it. **** that ****

Edit---also Lol Morganfell...
"he didn't like the 5 installs...Naw can't be true, he must not have played the game"

Hurr. Fanboy Logic at it's finest.

Edit 2---haha holy **** he bubbled up for it. You never cease to amaze me N4G.

@ DA SHREDDER. It's not bad if you want to re buy the game, but what about people who already have it. I suppose I don't really have the right to demand this though, got the game as it was 4 years ago. Don't forget that the Online is gone off now too. It actually had a great online, but the Konami system/id **** was annoying too.

Diver4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

heres the sad part. morg is exactly right. lots of people on this site hate him an i mean really hate him.

 look at the post of guys like irish guy. hes a huge xbox supporter. nothin wrong with that its his bag. but hes also a ps3 an sony hater and like others of his kind he spends a lot of time in sony ps3 threads attacking attacking attacking. some of them like nuke spend an insane amount of time in ps3 threads.

here is a study i did on him recently. http://n4g.com/news/1031384...

why? are people that insecure that they cant sleep at night and have to do things like this? is it because as much as they love their xbox they really feel sony has a better machine and games? are they that afraid of sony? why do they do this? 

sorry dudes but at the end of the day when it all gets broken down people like us that are sick and tired of crap like that are only left with 1 or 2 explanations why people do these things an none of those things has the word objective gamer in them.

an light of darkness get off your high horse. peeps can read a post history. you use the same techniqes that got nuke busted. you make it too easy. its jus insulting you think people won't go look at your past. flying just under the radar short of attacks and doing it constantly is the oldest trick in the book but your lack of in depth knowledge possessed by average ps3 gamers gives you away. if you can't be fair why not do the right thing an stay out of threads about a console you despise. an no one is interested in protestations o ownership

AKS4298d ago

This brings back memories about what it was like to get that Big Boss Emblem. Tough challenge ahead.

LightofDarkness4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

@Diver: please, tell me how I despise my PS3. Because I can tell you that I love my PS3, but I'm not incapable of noticing flaws with it or its exclusive games. The same goes for any machine or game, nothing is perfect. But you go ahead and do your little N4G police routine. I'm sure every body cares about how right you are about other users on a video game website.

Back on topic: it looks like you won't have to re-buy the game, which is good. But I really don't feel like getting that Big Boss Emblem all over again, that was hard :p

InactiveUser4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

Please don't make this "best" budget version an ugly greatest hits label like Heavy Rain's best version (Director's Cut w/ DLC, soundtrack, etc. on disk, but not available in Black Label).

Edit: looks like it's also a patch for the regular version, which should have been obvious, but still, I'd rebuy a slightly better version of the game with everything on the disk.

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MazzingerZ4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

There was never official word about why multiple installa, gaming sites ignored all that as well, I guess that didn't matter considering how damn good the game was

Besides, anyone that played the game must agree that those breaks at the end of each chapter were more than welcomed, there were so intensive

My guessing was always that full install size was too large for those days standard PS3 modell, 10 GB or more!, we'll see what it turns to be, they might have optimized the amount of data required to install, who knows, all those FW updates afterwards might helped

Irishguy954298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

I disagree about breaks, if I want to take a break, I will. I call these 'forced breaks'. It was just an inconvenience, like changing disks is. It's really not that bad, only a few minutes, but still. If you don't complain about these in MGS4 you literally have no logical reason to moan/laugh at multiple disks.

Anyhow you're argument only works when you do a chapter in one sitting.Turning on the game, playing it for 5 minutes and then needing to stop playing for a few mins to install was quite annoying though imo. Again I would have much preferred either changing disks which takes a few seconds, or simply installing the whole game before I play it.

MazzingerZ4298d ago

Please don't pull me into those discussions about swaping discs, never cared nor care today, enjoyed Blue Dragon on the X360 despite of being one of thr first with multiple discs. I Just play games

DA_SHREDDER4298d ago

20 dollar download on the psn and I'll buy it.

WeskerChildReborned4298d ago

I didn't really mind the chapter installs but this does make more sense. Wonder why Kojima is doing all this now. Hmm make's me wonder if their will be a MGS5 reveal soon.

Soldierone4298d ago

Konami probably just needs a boost in sales lol

(In all reality, its the 25th anniversary year of MGS, this is how they are celebrating)

WeskerChildReborned4298d ago

Oh i see now. Still can hope for an MGS5 teaser soon though :P

Larry L4298d ago

With Metal Gear Online being taken down a week or two before all these crazy announcments about MGS4 getting a bit of a revamping with Trophy support and a more modern/traditional style install.............I'm starting to wonder if maybe Metal Gear Online wasn't taken down to ALSO be revamped to match the quality of modern PS3 games. You know.....like using PSN IDs instead of those rediculous Konami IDs. Perhaps it may even get "re-released" on PSN as Free2Play or something.

It just seem SO odd to me that right after it's news that MGO's servers are being taken down, here comes more news of MGS4 getting significantly updated. I think we'll be hearing more about MGO soon as well.

FantasticHood4298d ago

If this is how they're celebrating, someone needs to tach Konami how to party.

Aggesan4298d ago

@Larry L Oh man don't say stuff like that. I become all giggidy!

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andibandit4298d ago

God lord please not a MGS5, rather a whole new series.
The MGS story can't take another convoluted twist or the space time continuum will break.

WeskerChildReborned4298d ago

It has already been confirmed that their will indeed be a MGS5.

raiden-494298d ago

I think that the install is going to be huge so ps3 back in the would lose alot of space even the 80gb mgs4 ps3

MrBeatdown4298d ago

Nice. Hope this is included in the patch. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

-Ghost4298d ago

Agreed. Jumping into the action without waiting is a huge plus so I hope this gets patched for the people who already have the game.

WildArmed4298d ago

Exactly what I was thinking. It'd definitely make all that jumping around between chapters more bearable once that lovely patch hits.

BitbyDeath4298d ago

Sure hope so, same patch as the trophies would be good.

jessupj4298d ago

The only reason it wouldn't be included would be the force us to buy the game again if we don't want to go through a mini install each chapter.

But I don't think Hideo would do that to us.

Aggesan4298d ago

I think itäll be in the patch. Reading Konami's official site (google translated into english) it says "patch will deliver the data that you want to add bulk and installation features trophy feature. Customers with software already can accommodate each new feature if it is possible to apply the patch again even without purchase imperative."

That last sentence makes me a believer!

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roadkillers4298d ago (Edited 4298d ago )

The chapter installs were a break from the constant playing. I went and got the game on release, during one of the worst snow storms of the year, and played it nonstop (between work) until I beat it.

Edit: Actually it might have been school and I'm pretty sure it got cancelled. See, even God love MGS.

Hoje03084298d ago

You speak very good English for a guy that I assume lives in the southern hemisphere.

roadkillers4298d ago

I thought the game came out in winter... the date was June 12th. I googled June 12th 2008 Wisconsin, and there was massive flooding going on that day. So, I have no idea why I remember snow or going to school for that matter. Shit, my story will sound better with floods.

Hoje03084298d ago

Ha! No big deal, I was just giving you a little shit. The number of disagrees I received leads me to believe that a handful of people on this site aren't aware of the difference in season between hemispheres.

Nitrowolf24298d ago

ha yea, assuming you live out of the states, cause there was no Snow here in June/July or school.

crinale4298d ago

At the time MGS4 was released HDD came with consoles were not that big, so Kojima had no choice but make installation chapter-based.
Now over 100GB SKU are common (for 20GB - 60GB models you could replace HDD anytime you want) so finally he decided to patch it.
Wise move I guess.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro40d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7240d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_40d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga40d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2340d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200041d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin41d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole41d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix41d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198941d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198941d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons351d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde351d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden351d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop351d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu351d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop351d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17351d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop350d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136350d ago (Edited 350d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984350d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster350d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989351d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon351d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA351d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon351d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA351d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon351d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden351d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt351d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989350d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90351d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden351d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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