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OXM - Halo 4 multiplayer: if it ain't broke, do fix it

Of all the forthcoming shooters that are "tapping" proven multiplayer formulae to expand their offerings, Halo 4 seems most convincing.

VanillaBear4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

I hate how they are adding perks to this. Halos online has always had the most balanced online out of a lot games out there but adding perks just seems like they want to change the online into an every other online game...cough cough COD. Same happened with U2 when they added Kickbacks, loadouts, weapon mods...it just dosen't fit into the what the games about.

It was a stretch in Halo reach to add armor abilties but I still didn't like them.

Is there a problem with keeping a games online about skill and not silly gimmicks. I just feel like because 343 have Halo now they are going to try and change it completely over the next trilogy into something which dosen't ressemble what Halos online was known for....it's like they don't want Bungie to be remembered so they are trying to turn it into "their" franchise....problem is Bungle will always be known for Halo so it's pointless.

So no I don't agree with them...if it aint broke, DON'T fix it. Just improve and tweak the stuff already there, add onto the customization and focus on creating bigger and more unique maps.

SeekDev4302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

A possible solution is to have a Halo Original game mode without perks, and then their new game mode. But that wouldn't be needed if they could balance the gameplay with the perks. Which is quite possible. I'll always stand by the fact that you'll never know until you try it.

nukeitall4302d ago

I don't need to try, I think Halo 4 is gonna be amazing!

With the amount of resources MS has put into this and the talent, I can't see how it is going to suck.

I can't wait for November! XD

SeekDev4302d ago

I should probably clarify that I don't think it's going to suck, lol. Just that one should keep an open mind when it comes to gaming.

Gamerpeanuts4302d ago

The perks are just like the power ups in Halo 2, smart one. All it does is send in a new gun, or temporary power up. For the most part they are taking the risks so that Halo 4 changes so that it doesnt end up like CoD...the same exact game over and over! If it aint broke, add features so it aint the same!! If you wanna play the same game over again play CoD. Bungie is known for making Halo, 343 is gonna be known for expanding it. Listen...let 343 make the game and try new things, dont rag on them before you play the game. Look at what modern Warfare did, left WW2...and guess what it worked. Just trust 343 they are Halo fans like you and me, they wont tarnish the name

Irishguy954302d ago (Edited 4302d ago )

Agree with this ^ Just see how it ends up. The 'perks' in this are nothing like Cod's perks and don't affect the game so blatantly.(ie the game isn't built around them) That's the same with the 'killstreaks'. They are minor and don't dominate the game.

I don't want to rebuy the same game over and over VanillaBear. I call it milking. I want the devs to try new stuff, take new risks etc. And this is tweaking whats already their btw. Adding in a few minor additions gets it the lable "Hurr Halo 4 is now Cod! Hurr"

Patriots_Pride4302d ago

GC: Can you give a specific example of where you think the fans have misinterpreted something you're trying to do in Halo 4?

Frank O'Conner: The controversial ones are the ones where they think we're taking ideas from other games. So right now we've added this loadout system so you can customise your Spartan. Which is as much based on our fiction for the Spartan forces as anything else, but the irony is people say, 'that's lifted from Call Of Duty'. But it's really… like even the UI [user interface] looks like the loadout system from Gradius III from the 1989 coin-op.

And so it's strange that people already have a kind of imprint in their mind about where ideas come from or where they're going, and that's a good example of one where we know it's fun and we tested it and we know that it's balanced but we just have to stick to our guns and make sure that when we execute on it, it's as perfect as it can be. And they might be resistant to the idea but so far we've discovered even on the E3 show floor they're embracing the feel and they're embracing the experience and that our call was correct.

We're not always going to be right, but often we know better than they do how these things settle out.

AO1JMM4302d ago

Frank O'Connor is the man.

morventhus4302d ago

frank o'connor hinted at playlists that went back to no perks and only powerups on maps classic halo style man stop complaining

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Halo Infinite Dev 343 Explains Shop Price Hike, ‘This Isn't Necessarily What Everyone Wants to Hear’

Halo Infinite developer 343 Industries has moved to explain a recent microtransactions price hike following a community backlash.

Jin_Sakai167d ago

You can always count on 343i to make bad decisions.

jznrpg166d ago

Replace 343 with MS and I agree

1Victor166d ago

This smell like passing down the cost of acquisitions down to the consumer at all cost in any way shape or form 🤷🏿

Godmars290166d ago

@1Victor:
Given that under best conditions - i.e. no more such spending, it'll take decades, what do you expect?

Hell, they just tried to revoke GP for their employees.

Sonic1881166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

And you can always count on the Xbox fans defending them and the price hike. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Halo Infinite multiplayer

Snookies12164d ago

Yeah, no excuse for this garbage 343i... I haven't played Infinite's multi-player in a long while. Downloaded it again on PC only to find that the PC port is absolutely broken right now with like 3-5 minute load-in times just for the main menu. Now hearing this, I went ahead and uninstalled it lol. Wish they'd stop shooting themselves in the foot with this title.

gold_drake167d ago

so they made several changes how the helmets etc work, however, ive never seen anyone raising prices in a shop due to changes THEY made.

crazyCoconuts167d ago

This is like raising the price on VCR players

XiNatsuDragnel167d ago

343i congratulations yall killing halo mp slowly fr

Gaming4Life1981166d ago

The store price hike is stupid but halo infinite mp is currently at its best. Nobody has to buy the cosmetics as they offer alot of free content.

Crows90166d ago

Fuck that stupid argument. If you pay full price for a game you should get everything the game has to offer.

Last I checked the game released at full price. I know MP is free but then that makes the release highly overpriced.

CobraKai166d ago

@Crows
It totally was. I got suckered by Halo Infinite. All i got was a data disc and a half assed campaign.

Petebloodyonion166d ago

@Crows90
Does the single-player portion of the game (what ppl bought) offer Microtransaction?
As far I recall the answer is no.
So ppl got what they paid for meaning a complete campaign that is comparable to a lot of AAA games like Resident Evil, Wolfenstein, Doom, Mortal Kombat, etc.

Now regarding the FREE multiplayer part, I agree it's a stupid move that will probably do more harm than good since the game is (despite what several N4G members would like you to believe) in good health, and like Gaming4Life pointed out no one is forcing ppl to buy theses items.

rippermcrip166d ago

Any person who thinks that any game content created and released after launch should be free... go ahead a justify that... I'll be waiting.

I can see the argument for them selling shit immediately at launch, but even still that is weak.

You buy a game knowing exactly what is included when you pay it. You should expect nothing else for free.

CobraKai166d ago

@ripper
Insomniac released some free costumes for free for Spiderman
Capcom released free next gen upgrades for their Resident Evil games
No Man’s Sky became a new game from all the free DLC
Minecraft has a good amount of free dlc content.
Witcher 3 had some free cosmetics and a mission.
Overwatch has new characters that were free
Arkham Knight had some free costumes and a Batmobile skin

Some people expect free DLC because some companies actually gave free DLC.

jznrpg166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

@Petebloodyonion they were already charging for items and then they raised the prices on top of that. It wasn’t free to begin with and now they want more $$

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Petebloodyonion165d ago

@JZRNPG
"@Petebloodyonion they were already charging for items and then they raised the prices on top of that. It wasn’t free to begin with and now they want more $$"

And I said that raising the price was a stupid move and even made an earlier post about how it's the best way to antagonize your customers but it still doesn't change the fact that the multiplayer portion of the game is a FREE to Play game.
In this regard, Gaming4life comments stand correct and Crows comments stand wrong since Nobody paid a dime to play the game (the MP part) and no one is forcing you to buy cosmetics.

And again I totally agree with the sentiment and don't defend MS or 343I on this crappy move.

KyRo166d ago

There is absolutely no reason for ever raising the price of cosmetics. They are some of the quickest assets to create but charge silly prices for them. Its greed. There's no other way to spin it no matter what the game is.

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Microsoft says 343 will continue to work on Halo, but other studios may get involved

343 Industries will continue to work on the Halo series going forwards, but other studios may get involved in development, it’s been suggested

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just_looken307d ago (Edited 307d ago )

man what a failure halo wars 2 was the only good thing from this series on xbox one/series

10yr plan new ring that can change over time slipspace engine all gone now halo is another steam game sitting in the background.

Kids/teens today have no clue they halo we grew up with.

If a cod dev gets involved then that will be worse current cod out now is only popular because its the best out of the crap pile. i launched it the other day 4 cash shop popups one unskipable add then 30min trying to find the game through all the mt's.

purple101306d ago (Edited 306d ago )

Your right, i once played Halo Reach, at a LAN party, for 32 hours straight! It was no joke!

(with food breaks, but no sleep) it was so good, I was totally addicted.

Now I'm a PS fan.. ps4 and ps5 have been the best money I ever spent, hands down, in terms of 'fun' & overall 'value'

PhillyDonJawn305d ago

I hated reach couldn't get into it but Halo 3, them all nighters was so much fun. Custom games with a full party was some of the best times I'll remember.

Chevalier305d ago

I remember sitting around and playing hours of Halo 2 daily with my friends just MP match after match for weeks on end. Was an incredible memory to this day.

PhillyDonJawn305d ago

Child please, Halo 5 MP was amazing. Campaign was trash tho.

StitchJones74306d ago

It's good to see that 343 cannot handle the task and are looking to do something. But how many years have gone by where there has not only been nothing to show, but issues. Microsoft is the issue here. And as of just 1mth ago with Refall, it has been proven again. Guess what,,, Phil S is NOT a developer and not does he have any legs to say a damn word about development. Wake up people.

chobit_A5HL3Y306d ago

crazy how indifferent ms is about one of the biggest franchises in gaming. it looks pretty bad when you don't even have a clear plan for your flagship title. ms just has no idea how to make good games anymore.

anast306d ago

They will probably be working on the mobile game.

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Halo Infinite's Hit Registration is Still Completely Broken

Gamers have a bone to pick with 343 Industries, with Halo Infinite's hit registration in online matches remaining completely broken.

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AuraAbjure354d ago

Hit registration broken is one thing. The kill sound, or some people call it a "hit noise" annoying ass bird chirp is what broke the deal for me. They could at least provide an option to turn that squirrel fart noise off in the settings. But no, every single solitary headshot kill *SQUEAK*, *CHIRP*, *BEEP*

anast354d ago

It's time to take it on yonder.

37Anon354d ago

People still playing this lol

BandarHub354d ago

Not having any issues with Dsycn.
This is a connection problem...and the video in question was posted 300 days ago.
Why report on it now?
Gamerant is another one of those BuzzFeed like so called video game publications that hire freelances to create articles in mass without any credible source.
I'm glad buzz feed got shut down because of their slizzle method, can't wait for these types of website to run out of money.

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Christopher353d ago

How are you going to complain about misinformation when your comment is loaded with misinformation? The video is literally 5 days old. The subreddit post is filled with people joking about it not being desync (gaming chair, not enough rgb, etc.) and people saying how crap desync is. People are clearly still having issues.

Your side rant about specific sites doesn't add to or support your anecdotal opinion or deny the opinions of others who provide actual video proof.

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gold_drake354d ago

i find it so weird, that one of the best selling xbox franchises, got this disaster of a game, even the first trailer they showed was nothing more than a complete fail

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