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Metal Gear Rising demo shows sickening act of violence – Is it a step too far?

TVGB: At the time, the concept of slicing through anything in any way you see fit seemed like a fantastic innovation. But it wasn’t until a demo of the new version of the game (found here) was shown off at this year’s E3 that I realised the much darker and completely unnecessary implications of this system.

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RedDead4336d ago (Edited 4336d ago )

No.

Blackpool, have you seen the new vid? http://www.gametrailers.com...

It's gory enough, specially the beheading at the end, although it's definitely not close to some other games like God of war.

This game looks awesome anyway, the gameplay is somewhat unique. It's not a hack and slash the way ninja Gaiden, DMC etc are. It has other elements.

blitz06234336d ago

this guy probly doesn't know about the original Ninja Gaiden games

firefoxprime4336d ago

If you grew up on Mortal Kombat, then no :P

Andreas-Sword4336d ago

Ninja Gaiden is better than this Metal Gear RISING shit!

Gaming1014336d ago

lol I know right, can someone get this "author" a tampon please? lol I mean with all the slicing of enemies in Rising, that was the one part that harmed your high-estrogen brain? Oh no, he killed someone who was defenseless, they would've done the same to him a hundred times over if they had the chance, so please, get your vagina surgery and get off the internet.

Laxman4336d ago

The original Ninja Gaiden games? 8-bit NES didnt have very graphic violence at all, sorry to say.

Shadow Flare4335d ago

Did nobody in this thread even read the article?

He's not talking about the level of violence in general videogames.

He's talking about the level of violence shown here compared to other metal gear's, and how it doesn't fit into what metal gear is all about.

Whether you agree with the sentiment, whatever. But he isn't talking about general violence in videogames. But of course that's what everybody has jumped on

Shane Kim4335d ago

N4G in a nutshell. Read headline, post comment. He even states that videogame violence don't offend him but it's the comparison of past MG games. To be honest, I completly agree with the author. This game shouldn't be allowed to have MG written on it. It's just another hack and slash game. Greedy fucking corps.

Shadow Flare4335d ago (Edited 4335d ago )

I know. It's incredible how people on the Internet are.

This is what the article is about:

"Videogame violence rarely surprises or offends me, but in the context of one of my favourite gaming franchises, (let alone one that so obviously prides itself on anti-war themes) I couldn’t believe what I had just seen. Past Metal Gear games have allowed you to toy with the enemy so to speak, shooting arms and legs, but that was of strategic importance, allowing you to prevent enemies from running away or using larger weapons. Here the brutal act was met with a cheer and laughter from the audience in a sort of Grand Theft Auto-style of violent joy.

I’ve long defended Rising’s different take on a long-running franchise, but this was a move that made the game feel more distant from its predecessors than ever before. Would the Raiden I know, that I’ve spent two games with, really perform such a horrible and needless action? I know for a fact that he wouldn’t, especially after his peaceful resolution in Guns of the Patriots. Suddenly I got this sickening feeling in my stomach that my confidence in Platinum Games to handle the franchise with respect (despite the exaggerated action) was ill-placed."

So just to recap,

- videogame violence rarely offends him

- his issue with the violence is how it's been used and how it is straying away from what the metal gear franchise is about

But here on n4g he's being admonished for claiming this level of violence is too excessive for the entire videogame genre???

Ok.....makes sense.

The Internet never fails to surprise me

antz11044335d ago

First gameplay I've seen. As a Metal Gear game Im disgusted.....if they'd named it anything else I'd be fine with it.

gaffyh4335d ago

We get it, it's not a Metal Gear game, and I'm disappointed with that, but it still looks good as an action game. At least they got rid of Solid in the title, because now you don't actually expect stealthy gameplay so much.

Dee_914335d ago

hmm in gta vice city i would go on a rampage with aa katana beheading and watching people hop around on one leg...
Maybe its a step too far for raiden but I do remember him having some pretty gory kills on cyborgs and I think killing people is optional so..

Gaming1014335d ago

Ah yes, we have never seen this kind of violence, where a ninja goes around slicing guys up with a sword.... oh wait...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Ever heard of Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes? Nuff said.

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VileAndVicious4336d ago

......I personally think it could use more violence/

But seriously this is no more gory than GOW3,

lastdual4335d ago

But Raiden isn't Kratos.

It makes sense for a raged up Kratos to do hyper-violent acts. That's in character for him. For Raiden, however, it seems out of character.

The game itself looks fun, but the author of this piece does make a decent point.

CarlosX3604335d ago (Edited 4335d ago )

Whoever wrote this article possibly haven't played a GTA, Ninja Gaiden, God of War, or any First Person Shooter title. What a douche.

Obviously trying to troll for hits.

Ah, yes, I also forgot Mortal Kombat.

BISHOP-BRASIL4335d ago

I'm not disagreeing he's trolling for hits, but I can see how some people may actually believe this is too much if they are coming from other Metal Gear games.

There's hardly gory moments in other Metal Gear games and when it's there, it's not glorified violence.

But even so, personaly I like it, it fits well within the superpowered robot ninja design they gave Raiden and the whole revenge theme... In fact, I'd say the gore in needed, the guy defeated multiple Gekkos in MGS4 without breaking a sweat, slicing through humans and cyborgs like butter make a lot of sense considering his power.

And it's not like he's trying to give his enemies a fighting chance, he's a ninja, so of course he mostly try to catch 'em out of guard.

CarlosX3604326d ago (Edited 4326d ago )

@bishop-br There ARE some gory moments in MGS2. Some, not a lot, but some.

And just remember, MGS2 was heavily cut due to 9/11, had that not been the case it would have been a much more gory, controversial title [more than it already was].

BlmThug4335d ago

Ive seen worse, MK, Manhunt, Ninja Gaiden etc.

Snookies124335d ago

Manhunt... Killing someone with a plastic bag. That game was just perverse lol!

soundslike4335d ago

Noob Saibots fatality comes to mind.

*Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*

HammadTheBeast4335d ago

Considering in Sony's E3 I saw Kratos slash the brain out of a giant elephant-man, I'll kindly say no.

MrMister4335d ago

I dont give a damn about this exceedingly lame article. I'm just glad that Rising has some of the hunter-style stealth we were originally promised. I'm also glad the dismemberment is back. This looks like its not going to be some stupid hack and slash game after all. It looks like a bunch of genre's seemingly blended in one game.

pomoluese4335d ago

God this trailer just makes it look terrible, the gore isn't even the worst thing about it.

Who at the studio actually thought that narration was good?

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Haha1234336d ago (Edited 4336d ago )

SO F*CKING AWESOME AND VIOLENT!!! xD

and people didnt want a spinoff MGS game for some odd reason lol

younglj014336d ago

Lol so you never played an old mortal kombat game?

DeFFeR4335d ago

Lol so you never read the article?

Vaud-Villian4335d ago

Most dont like to give hits to rather shotty looking articles... like this one. Needs to learn to actually write properly, throwing "sickening" into the title implies disgust in the violence alone. It's just poor basement reporting.

younglj014335d ago

umm yes I did and the Mortal Kombat franchise wasn't mention so the big question is did you read the article?

IcarusOne4335d ago

umm the guy says right up front that he has no problem with video game violence. He was writing about violence within the metal gear franchise specifically.

so your snarky mk comment is kind of retarded. and your sassy follow up even more so.

DeFFeR4335d ago

"umm yes I did and the Mortal Kombat franchise wasn't mention so the big question is did you read the article?"

So, because you "read" the article, you'd know that it wasn't about comparing the violence of all video games, but only violence within the Metal Gear series, and how RISING is much more violent and gory than previous titles in the series... and how it has nothing to do with other games (like Mortal Kombat...).

I guess if you really did read it, you should work on fine tuning your reading comprehension so you don't come out looking like a dumbass again.

younglj014335d ago (Edited 4335d ago )

umm you made the statement that i didnt read the article and I was making it clear why I mention the mortal kombat franchise.Even though this game have alot more glory then the early Metal Gear games.It still have nothing on the gory for the old days.So even if you factor all of that in it shouldnt matter if MSR have more gory then early titles because RISING is not an "Metal Gear Solid" title.

So maybe you need too comprehension better and understand that MGR and MGS are too different games and can't be judge as the same.Now do you understand or should I break down my logic even more?

If not 1 game is about stealth and the other is about gory.

ddurand14336d ago

was this your first video game ever?

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Metal Gear Solid Can Work Without Hideo Kojima

There are more good non-Kojima Metal Gear games than one would realize. Scientifically, three examples prove a trend, and in this feature are three excellent Metal Gear games that Hideo Kojima did not direct.

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masterfox320d ago

I hope so, still cant forget MGS Survive , the first MGS game without Kojima involvement and it was a complete failure, the thing is Kojima way of thinking is outside the box and that's why their games 99% end up unique, original and a almost instant classic. MGS series are full of intricate things that somehows connects to each other, Lalulilelo, the Patriots, Outher heaven, Foxhound, PMCs , heck even Kojima manage to insert DARPA in there lol, a US government Defense Agency. So is really great MGS3 Remake is reviving the series but without Kojima who knows of the end result, I hope Konami have another or more developers insight their studios who can also think outside the box.

senorfartcushion319d ago

It actually can’t. But it won’t matter.

Kojima is Metal Gear the same way that Christopher Nolan is The Dark Knight, or David Lynch is Twin Peaks: The Return episode 8. Artistry is the creation of a thing from your own thoughts and feelings. Take away the original artist’s thoughts and feelings and you have a new thing entirely.

This isn’t going to stop the mega corporation creating a fake version and spending millions TELLING customers that it’s made with the same thoughts and feelings. The masses will buy the idea the same way the corporation will sell the idea.

just_looken319d ago

I guess everyone forgot metal gear solid rising was tossed to platnium games with a story script and that is it.

Z501318d ago

Kojima was involved in Rising tho

just_looken318d ago

kpjima just did the story everything else was platnium games look it up.

Hence i said script

neutralgamer1992318d ago

i think the bigger issue is whether or not Konami is actually interested in fully funding AAA games development. Even this remake is done by a studio not really known in gaming industry. Quality remake/projets vs cheap cash in quick releases. Which way will Konami head. I am a huge MGS fan and i feel like Kojima did long time MGS fans dirty with how made MGS5 and it's story elements

senorfartcushion318d ago

Remakes and remasters provide a gateway through to producing AAA games faster and cheaper.

RaveTears318d ago (Edited 318d ago )

Actually MGS Portable Ops which was technically the first canon MGS game that Kojima wasn’t mainly involved with it. Kojima was only the producer but not the writer and director.

Konami did other MGS spin off that were successful but that because Konami put effort. Just along Konami is not lazy and cash grab, they can a MGS game without Kojima.

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gold_drake319d ago (Edited 319d ago )

i mean sure, but he made it the thing it is today and why people love it so much.

i think its not easy to replicate.

Flawlessmic319d ago

I doubt it could.

Say what you want about the bloke, but his games are uniquely his.

I don't think anyone makes games like kojima does, for better or worse.

Could mgs continue without him, yea maybe, but it would lacking his genius so wouldn't be the same.

Soulsborne319d ago

Well , he already created it. They just have to recreate it? Not like its a new concept or IP. Trash article.

Terry_B319d ago

Yes. It only needs motivated clever people.

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Demand for a sequel is about to skyrocket, like the good ol' days of 2013!

In case you're living under a suspiciously rock-shaped object, the recent PlayStation Showcase revealed that a remake of Metal Gear Solid 3 will be coming, alongside a Master Collection of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3. While it is a remake of an existing game, there's a great deal of significance to it, considering the last time a game in the series came out was back in 2018 with Metal Gear Survive (and the less said about that, the better). Konami's decision to pull a Konami and feud with series creator Hideo Kojima has long left the fate of Metal Gear uncertain, but this recent announcement has led to all bets being off as to where Metal Gear can go from here.

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chrisx322d ago

This game needs to happen. MGR was amazing

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Venoxn4g321d ago

I really hope, that at least we would get a remaster..