SweClockers received NVIDIA slides that show that six weeks after launch, the GeForce GTX 680's sales are 60 percent higher than those of the GTX 580 were. Interestingly, the site also received a picture that shows how the sales are distributed across the world.
Nvidia DLSS 3.7 is the latest update to the long-running AI upscaling technology, and it further shows native performance doesn't matter.
I think hardware development is at a point where they need to figure out how to draw less power, These beefy high end cards eat wattage, and I'm curious if using DLSS & AI in general will lower the power draw. It would seem like the days of just adding more VRAM & horsepower is over. Law of diminishing returns. Pretty soon DLSS/FSR will be incorporated into everything, and eventually the tech will be good enough to hardly notice a difference if at all. AI is the future and it would be foolish to turn around and not incorporate it at all. Reliance on AI is only going to pick up more & more.
PS4 Pro had dedicated hardware in it for supporting checkerboard rendering that was used significantly in PS4 first party titles, so you don't need to look to PC or even modern PC gaming. The first RTX cards released nearly 6 years ago, so how many nails does this coffin need?
Almost deaf person:
- lightweight portable 5$, speakers of 0,5cm diameter are the final nail in coffin of Hi-Fi audio!
Some people in 2010:
- smartphones are the final nain in the console gaming's coffin!
This is just the same.
AI upscalling is complete dogshit in terms of motion quality. The fact that someone is not aware of it (look at the deaf guy example) doesn't mean the flaws are not there. They are. And all it takes to see them, is to use a display that handles motion well, so either gets true 500fps at 500Hz LCD TN or OLED (or faster tech) or uses low persistence mode (check blurbusters.com if you don't know what it means) also known as Black Frame Insertion or backlight strobing.
Also, image ruined by any type of TAA is just as "native image" as chineese 0,5$ screwdriver is "high quality, heavy duty, for professional use". It's nowhere near it. But if you're an ignorant "journalist", you will publish crap like this article, just to flow with the current.
There's no coffin to native res quality and there never will be. Eventually, we'll have enough performance in rasterization to drive 500fps, which will be a game changer for motion quality while also adding other benefit - lower latency.
And at 500fps, the amount of time required for upscalling makes it completely useless.
This crap is only usable for cinematic stuff, like cutscenes and such. Not for gaming. Beware of ignorants on the internet. The TAA is not "native" and the shitty look of the modern games when you disable any TAA, is not "native" either as it's ruined by the developer's design choice - you can cheat by rendering every 4th pixel when you plan to put a smeary TAA pass on it later on. When you disable it, you will see a ruined image, horrible pixellation and other visual "glitches" but it is NOT what native would've looked like if you'd like to honestly compare the two.
Stay informed.
How much VRAM is standard today? My laptop has a 1080p QLED display but only an Intel Iris Xe with 128MB of VRAM. I currently do all my gaming on it but certain titles do suffer because of it. I plan on getting a Steam Deck OLED soon to play the newer and more demanding titles.
Aleksha writes: "Nvidia has established itself as a dominant force in the world of AI, but I can't shake the worry of what this means for the RTX 50 series."
Echo sentiment here - I think the way GPUs are going, gaming could be secondary to deep learning. Wonder if the 40 series was the last true generation of GPUs?
You also need to consider that NVIDIA are heavily invested in cloud gaming. So they are likely going to make moves to push you into yet another life subscription service.
NVIDIA will never change their price point until AMD or intel makes a GPU that is comparable and cheaper than them .
it happend before in the days of gtx280 which they changed the price from 650$ to 450$ in a matter of 2 weeks because of rx4870 which is being sold at 380$.
Nvidia presented Covert Protocol, a tech demo aiming to showcase the "power" of the Nvidia Ace technology applied to video game characters.
I don’t know why people keep thinking of it as AI vs no AI.
A much more likely scenario is the use of AI alongside human work.
Eg. AI voices used during side quests or banter to boost the lines of dialog.
AI generating additional pre determined branches in dialog tree options for more freedom in conversations with NPCs
The biggest thing to talk about here is that every interaction requires communication to inworld servers so there's three big impacts here
1) games are always online no question about it
2) delays in processing on inworld servers, outages or unexpected load as a result of some astronomically popular game will cause real time game delays ever wait for a chat got response this will be similar as the context must be pulled via the llm.
Now as for the other impact the artistic one no I don't think writers can be replaced I've mentioned before often AI generated writing is word soup I still standby that it's also evident in the video to.
AI can not convery accurately human emotions and I don't think ever will.
I know publishers are looking to cut down on development costs but what happens when inworld decide to charge per interaction or update their pricing a year after your game goes live you have no choice but pay it or shutter it.
Ive felt for a while that we are heading towards this place of games being disposable entertainment and now it's feeling more and more accurate
Yeah, I wish I was loaded too... Can't afford that beast lol, though it's not like it's needed right now. What game can't you play on ultra settings with around a 200 dollar card at the moment? Sure you might not be getting 100+ FPS (Not that anyone actually needs that much as it becomes almost completely irrelevant to the human eye after around 60-70) but it still looks and plays perfectly fine.
This is really not surprising since it's Smaller, quieter and faster than the GTX 580 by a substantial margin, not to mention the power efficiency part.
I mean seriously what more could you want in a new card, the thing is Amazing..
I have a ATI 6970 that I'm more then happy with, but after watching the demo on this I even wanted to buy one, it's just that they are sold out everywhere...
It has to be selling well. People seem really happy with the card too, so yeah no surprise here..
NVIDIA is also doing some amazing things with Cuda.. you should check out there GTC 2012 Keynote - http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The chart is a bit weird... it looks like it's measuring how fast units sold out but that's obviously skewed towards the 680 as there hasn't been as many cards produced relative to when the 580 launched, hence being sold out everywhere.
I don't understand how this is possible seeing as the 680 has basically been out of stock the entire time it has been on the market due to TSMC manufacturing issues.
How much better is this then the 580? I have the 580 (3GB) and it's a dream come true. I can't imagine something being better then that.