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Calm down. Mobile isn't going to kill consoles.

Michael Futter writes: No gamer, pundit or casual observer can deny that mobile platforms have become serious contenders in the realm of interactive entertainment. My own children have driven that point home for me, with my three-year-old able to deftly manipulate touchscreen devices as if he were born with one in hand.

This is a stark contrast to my own childhood, when only a single weekly encounter with my assigned Apple IIe in the computer lab, glowing a dim monochrome green, meant I would have the chance to chase down Carmen Sandiego one more time.

bfenty4383d ago

Great article! This is something I've been concerned about for a while.

Burning_Finger4383d ago

Mobile games will just kill itself. lol

Skywalker1234383d ago

the 3ds is the number 1 system in the world. That shows you how little impact mobile has

LOGICWINS4383d ago

????

U being serious with that comment? Mobile phones are the most popular electronic devices in the world...hence also making them the most popular gaming devices in the world by default.

Skywalker1234383d ago

Are you being serious with your comment? Mobile phones are not the most popular electronic devices in the world. The computer beats it easily..........

And even if they did technically sell the most there primary function is not gaming so no way in hell would that make it the most popular gmaing device by default.

LOGICWINS4383d ago

"And even if they did technically sell the most there primary function is not gaming so no way in hell would that make it the most popular gmaing device by default."

You said nothing about gaming in your comment.

"Are you being serious with your comment? Mobile phones are not the most popular electronic devices in the world. The computer beats it easily.........."

Nope, there are more mobile phones in the wild than desktops, laptops, and tablets combined. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

Skywalker1234383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

1) When I saw system = game system.

2) Its statistical fact. I dont need you to prove you wrong. I am right

The point is doom and gloom, sensationalism, generalizations are fun on the internet, but real gaming and real life is different

Fylus4383d ago

@Skywalker... wow, just wow... Go ahead and check Android's or Iphone's appstores. The top few games in each of them have been downloaded and played hundreds of millions of times by unique users, and thanks to this, the amount of casual gamers using mobile devices is growing rapidly. At this day and age, mobile gaming is by far the most popular way to game world wide. That is a fact. YOU are wrong.

I'm not saying mobile gaming is the best way to game (it isn't even close); it's just the easiest, most accessible way to game, thus the huge user-base of mobile gaming.

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LOGICWINS4383d ago

Hylus, u say that the most popular way to game are dedicated devices? Sir, u and reality don't coincide with each other do they?

Btw, u disproved ur own argument. By the very fact that a lot of these games are free(your words, not mine) is what makes them more popular than the games on dedicated handhelds.

Vahn894383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

LOGIC, uh, who are you talking to? Fylus or Hiten? Cuz you kinda blended both of their names together lol.

Outside_ofthe_Box4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

He meant dedicated game system.

What he was trying to say is that a dedicated PORTABLE gaming system(3DS) is the number one selling dedicated gaming system in the world so if mobile phones were impacting the dedicated gaming market(especially the portable one) it wouldn't be the number one selling dedicated gaming system in the world.

That is what I gathered from his comment.

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Haduken4383d ago

@LOGICWINS

"By the very fact that a lot of these games are free is what makes them more popular than the games on dedicated handhelds."

I think gamers enjoy quality more than free shovelware. just my take

LOGICWINS4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

That depends on the gamer. For me, console gaming is the way to go because I demand that high level of gaming as a hardcore gamer. Would most people want Uncharted like games on their phone? Of course...but here's the problem, most people are not willing to pay $250 + a memory card+the cost of a game to do it.

Everyone and their mother want "quality"..the question is how much people are willing to spend to experience this "quality". Download statistics have shown that most people gravitate to free crap as opposed to springing $40 on 3DS/Vita games with better production values and deeper gameplay. I enjoy gaming on my PS3, but as far as what most people want, the answers pretty clear.

In the end, ur right. Gamers want quality...its just that most of them aren't willing to pay for it. They are more concerned with being frugal than having the best gaming experience they can.

Fylus4383d ago

I have to agree with Logic again here.

Just because a game is free doesn't mean it lacks quality. I mean, Angry Birds is free and look at ITS popularity. There are also plenty of other examples, for instance; games that I personally enjoy that I've picked up for free on Google Play's appstore would be Zenonia 4, Demon Hunter, and Immortal Dusk.

Also, look at DUST 514; a completely free AAA MMOFPS on PS3. From just the looks of it, I can tell that game will be revolutionary.

Skywalker12344382d ago

@fylus, he was agreeing with haduken

Usually when its free thats exactly what it means

angry birds is an example of a flash game thats been around forever selling well.

_Aarix_4383d ago

Feel sorry for the idiots who Reacted by trashing ios and android games. Smartphones have good games and is as convient as can be but they are in no relation to consoles.

lastdual4383d ago

Look, I understand that most mobile gaming devices aren't killers who ascribe to a radical ideology, but a disturbing number of them are, and they receive little in the way of ridicule from supposedly mainstream mobile gaming devices.

Innocent consoles are dying! This senseless violence needs to stop.

vortis4383d ago

mobile is a completely different market, it's the fleeting casual market.

A lot of people keep thinking the core audience are abandoning consoles/PCs for mobile crap but it's just the fickle casuals. Those sheep would follow a wolf into it's den if it was a wearing a shirt with an Apple logo on it.

joeorc4382d ago

"mobile is a completely different market, it's the fleeting casual market."

you an many others are just not getting it..look while i respect your opinion this perception about the mobile smartphone an tablet devices not being "hardcore" gaming and just casual market are overlooking one very important fact.

developers make the games right?
so developers use APi's and SDK tool chains to make those games right?

so if you and others have not noticed where is the main 3rd party game development tool chains an game engines being released now?

that's right the mobile market. This is not the mobile market of the Ngage, these devices today are more than viable to run more than just casual gaming experiences. The mobile market has changed quite alot since than.

epic's unreal game engine with advanced shader model's an lighting, physic's etc..and that game engine is now running on mobile chipsets that are in tablets and smartphones. Now its not just Epic, Unity 3D, Havok, idSoft's, Hell even Square's Game engine is now running on mobile chipset's.

the Mobile market just like it did to the Dedicated PDA market is absorbing the largest share, that does not mean the dedicated mobile game devices are less viable, it just means their no longer the largest chunk of the market.

why do you think both Microsoft an Sony are investing heavy into the smartphone market by making a unified game development platform's for game development on smartphones,Tablets an new low power chip laptops.

the reason is very simple the hardware these new smartdevices has is more than viable to run much higher quality game's than what mobile development platforms 7 years ago could not do. The change happened to be when your SOC..IE: system on a chip has a GPU core or multiple GPU cores that enable it to run such directX 11.4 , AND ADVANCED SHADER MODELS the exact kind that run on the PC.It was bound to Happen.

this is not the mobile gaming of 7 years ago!

vortis4382d ago

@joeorc,

Really, Sherlock?

Of course more engines support mobile devices, it's a viable platform. But remember what the Rovio guys said, they had failed with like what, 50 something games before they hit gold with Angry Birds? It's a pot-shot in a big canyon for success.

A lot of people are jumping in but it doesn't guarantee anything because as I mentioned, it's the fleeting casual market.

How many other games like Infinity Blade made it past the 1 million mark? How many core games running on the Unity, like Shadowgun have even gone mainstream?

There's a lot of upcoming support for HTML5 as well but it doesn't mean Flash is just gonna die or people are gonna stop using Unity, etc., etc.

The API/SDKs are simply being used for multiple/cross-platform support, it's to help make development easier across a broad range of gaming devices and for easy port (something that just wasn't doable five years ago).

You can pop an iOS game onto PC or vice versa with a lot of engines. It's got nothing to do with "moving an entire market" into a different market space, it's just that they're expanding. But if you look at the sales, overall sales, MMOs is really where it's at.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

XiNatsuDragnel27m ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg3h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos2h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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