PlayStation's Future Dictated by Killzone 3 Experiment? - Nick's Gaming View Episode #65

"PlayStation experiments with Killzone 3 multiplayer utilizing the à la carte business model, Mass Effect 3 harnesses downloadable content fiasco, PlayStation attempts to defend PlayStation Vita’s backwards compatibility support with PSP’s UMD titles, and more."

-TheGamerAccess.com

[tmanmushroom]

Ahh!! I can't wait for Mass Effect 3!

[-Mika-]

Ahh!! I can't wait for KZ3

[Colwyn]

bring back the hiphopgamer.

i like the gamer access

[TheHater]

What happen to the hiphopgamer?
Did N4G finally banned that site or what?

[SwiffEpics]

That Day 1 DLC is BS either way...but im still very much looking forward to ME3.

[Nick212004]

I agree to a certain extent. While it may be true that Bioware did not begin working on the "From Ashes" DLC until after they completed Mass Effect 3, if they finished it in time for Mass Effect 3's release they should release the DLC as a complimentary download at least for those who pick the game up the first week!

[Godmars290]

Meh, say or believe what you want, but all I know is that its now effectively a $70 game.

People wont have to buy the DLC, those w/o online can't, but if the game manages to hook a newcomer to the series then chances are they'll pay the $10 more because the DLC will have in-game advertising in the form of a non-interactive character they'll want to play.

Nevermind the choice to make it DLC likely effected the game's general planning.

[NewMonday]

i will just delay buying ME3 for a year, same thing for Skyrim.

[jwk94]

How do you not finish something you announced 7-8 months before release?

[cervantes99]

Most games are only 8 - 10 hours and ME3 is around 40+ hours and somehow Bioware is milking the consumer with their DLC?

Whiney little babies!

[Intentions]

Well... If you think about it.

"Day 1 DLC" is basically just a cheap way to get fast and easy cash out of the consumer. A certain number of people will say that this content was originally in the game to begin with, but the publisher/developer pulled it out to earn more cash and/or it didn't fit into the "main" story of the game.

That is probably why a lot of people are "Whiney little babies"

[Abdou23]

If i remember correctly this happened with Assassin's Creed 2,they removed chapters(or whatever it's called)11-12 and made them DLC.
also happened with Deus Ex:Human Revolution but didn't have that much effect on the story.I don't like it either but i think people are going crazy because it's just EA.

[Mikhail]

Games from both PS1 and PS2 era are longer with no dlc.

[EmperorDalek]

Not really a fair comparison though is it as production costs for PS1, PS2 and PC games from that era were far less than they are now.

[cervantes99]

If you don't like it then don't buy it - pretty simple really.

You can finish the game and trilogy quite easily with no DLC. If you really feel strong against the DLC then don't even buy the game - that'll show em!

DLC is planned well in advance and if people think developers can't start on it until the main game is complete then your delusional. Business is not run that way in most any industry.

[Hicken]

That excuse is shitty.

It doesn't stop bad trends from continuing, because there will almost ALWAYS be more people who don't care one way or the other than people who care enough to like or dislike it.

Also, no other industry is as dependent upon its consumers. That is to say: the gaming industry thrives more off its consumers than especially any other media.

As Mikhail said, games from previous generations were longer than 40 hours, and didn't have the luxury of expansion packs or DLC; the content we're getting these days for what we pay up front is substantially less than previous generations. DLC allows SOME games to increase their length and add content, but that comes as a price.

The fact that there are practices like on-disc and day-one DLC leave a bad taste in the mouths of people who want the most value for the money they spent on a game.

Edit: Not that I don't have others, but I'm not about to find a new hobby because you're being an ignorant ass. In my fifteen years of more than casual gaming, I've never known it to be okay to accept less for more money. If Mass Effect- or any game, for that matter- was offering me the 80+ hours I spent on FF and the like and THEN had DLC on top of that, I'd be all for it.

As it stands, it's a shame that companies make as much money as they do, produce things like DLC to make more money, then turn around and implement online passes to make money off copies they've already been paid for. And it's an even BIGGER shame that gamers are defending them for it.

[DlCK_DANGEROUSLY]

Um.... no.

[SilentNegotiator]

Thanks for that ENTHRALLING analysis. We're all quite impressed to find out that we aren't forced to purchase DLC and that developers are capable, within the realm of our universe's physics, of creating DLC WHILE they're making the main game.

But when gamers are paying $60+ for games, not all of them are going to be happy to find out that a character and plot was purposefully excluded so that they could charge an additional $10 separately for it.

[cervantes99]

Sign of the times - deal with it or pick a new hobby. It sounds to me like a few of you feel entitled to everything for free. The game's story was not cut to make you pay extra quit being such drama queens.

Gamers these days...

[theeg]

never bought ANY dlc, never will

expansion packs are different, if it adds a truely significant amount of content then i may buy it. Shivering Isles, totally worth $20....

charachters, guns, skins......

"F" That!

[archemides518]

then the future is a failure, because killzone 3 multiplayer is HORRIBLE. and it has the WORST menu UI and visual design i've ever seen. and this is coming from someone who has hundreds of hours in kz2.

[gijsbrecht]

like you I've clocked countless hours in KZ2's mp (still playing it), but KZ3's mp is one of the most beautiful and engaging multiplayers I know of. And I've played my share, including the latest CoD, BF and UC.
I respect your opinion, but I had to disagree.

[trenso1]

Yea I didn't like the blood shot red UI menu

[hudsoniscool]

instead of complaining that me3 has day one dlc and its esentially a 70 dollar game, why dont you wait till the games been out for 2 weeks and pick it up new for $45.

[coryok]

or a year and get it for $20

[Mikhail]

I might wait for a GOTY edition just like I did with Fallout and Batman. I miss the days where I unlock every skin/ extra missions in the game by completing the whole game or a quest/objective. Now those are replace by achievement and trophies.
Well, times have really change, I'm feeling old even though I am 21 and have been gaming ever since I was 8.

[GraveLord]

Playstations future? No.
Killzone's future? Yes.

If people won't download and play a FREE GAME, then there will be no need to make a Killzone 4.