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What if the Vita had an Apple logo instead of Sony's?

Call me crazy. Call me misguided. But I preordered a Sony PS Vita the other day. That's right, I plunked down a $50 deposit at a GameStop near work, thereby earning the right to own Sony's new handheld game console the day it comes out here in the U.S. on February 22.

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LOGICWINS4457d ago

"So despite being more optimistic about the Vita's fortunes than some my fellow editors, I can't help but think that Sony will most likely have to drop the price of the system to $199 or $179 to really start moving units after the early adopters have their fill (in Japan, Vita launch sales were initially strong but have dropped off precipitously in ensuing weeks)."

Yeah, the price will drop, but Sony should wait till the holiday season to do it. A lot of people are willing to pay $250 for it right NOW. Sony might as well get an extra $50-$70 from the hardcore nerds in the first couple of months...then announce the price drop at Gamescom.

Nitrowolf24457d ago

Yea I expect a drop to. Wish I could buy it now but i'm short on the cash for it.

Also if this had an Apple logo it would be $500+

LOGICWINS4457d ago

"Also if this had an Apple logo it would be $500+"

Thats the unfortunate truth of the matter. Even worse, a $500 Vita with an Apple logo behind it would actually sell more units than a $250 Vita with the PS logo behind it.

FriedGoat4457d ago (Edited 4457d ago )

Do any of you know Sony at all? The price will not drop, even if it does sell badly (which I don't think will happen in the west) the ps3 initially sold badly, how long till a price drop? Consumers are wishing for a pricedrop but it's not gonna happen. The 3DS dropped its price due to a poor launch and no good games for 6 months, vita is a different story. And yes I've had a 3DS from launch an I have a vita preordered.
All these people speculating a price drop in months? Are you mad? This is SONY they hardly do pricedrops and when they do it's years after not months. So those of you not buying are gonna be paying the same price but months later, maybe more because these early deals are good!

Dasteru4457d ago

assuming every other aspect of the system was the same, only difference being an apple logo instead of sony, $500+ AND 10x as many sold with lineups 5 miles long on launch day. Oh yeah and people beating each others faces in and smashing windows to be the first ones into the store.

kneon4457d ago

Also if it had an Apple logo it would be hailed as "revolutionary" and "magical".

Elimin84457d ago

Vita will sell like hot cakes.. As for selling boat loads with Apple logo? Yeah ,it would sell like HOTTER CAKES! Just saying...

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farhad2k84456d ago

If it had Apple written all over it, it would have sold more than actual home consoles! People would be buying 2 for 1 person!

And the Memory Card woes wouldn't even exist, people would just look past the price!

CynicalVision4457d ago

'Call me misguided. But I preordered a Sony PS Vita the other day.'

Why would anybody call that misguided? The Vita is a fantastic product with a wide range of launch titles.

LOGICWINS4457d ago

"Why would anybody call that misguided? The Vita is a fantastic product with a wide range of launch titles."

Maybe because despite the fact that its a fantastic product, theres a strong possibility that the price will drop in the summer. Don't know about anyone else, but I have a friend who buys every new console Day 1 and he felt like a retard when the 3DSs price dropped so quickly.

I'm inclined to agree with him. Paying a $50-$70 premium just to have a console a couple months before everyone else is kinda dumb...at least in my opinion.

GamersRulz4457d ago (Edited 4457d ago )

what a f#$ed up logic you have. by your logic, you don't have to buy anything unless its handed for you for free !

just look at the specs of the device, if you think it worth the said price then buy it, if not then leave it and stop labeling people "dumb" just because they bought it early.

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Its really sad for me, seeing you (Logicwins) blinded by such fanboyish ideas. I used to enjoy your comments in the past because you were LOGICAL back then. Its just sad.

LOGICWINS4457d ago

^^Ummm...wow. Well, I hope you feel better now.

PamPoovey4457d ago

The thing is though even if it did get a price cut BUT it manages to hold out longer then the 3DS did, people will still find a way to nit pick it.

cervantes994457d ago

Everything drops in price. If everyone waited for a price drop then nothing would sell and we would'nt have any inovative products in the marketplace.

You know, not everyone is strapped for cash and $250 is hardly anything to lose sleep over if the price drops.

Quit labeling people based on your own biased beliefs.

jthamind4457d ago

"what a f#$ed up logic you have. by your logic, you don't have to buy anything unless its handed for you for free !"

that makes absolutely no sense. how did you get that idea from him wanting to save some money?

Pushagree4457d ago (Edited 4457d ago )

Just because the 3DS got a price drop prematurely does not mean that NGP will.

The difference between the two is NGP gives gamers what they want so they will buy it. 3DS did not so they had to cut the price.

GodHandDee4457d ago

Considering recent Sony financials, unless the vita is a super bomb (which is unlikely) they will not reduce price any time soon. They don't have to either. Once the games start pouring in gamers will buy the device in Japan as well.

RockmanII74457d ago

You should know by now never to talk bad about anything Sony, you'll get thumbed down into oblivion here.

360ICE4457d ago (Edited 4457d ago )

Agree with Logicwins! Don't know on which planet people on this site live, but if the price is considered a little too high, a lot of people will wait for a drop which again will make the drop come faster.

GamersRulz and cervantes99's comments are comments that make me worried about the educational system. Whether Logicwins likes one console better than another or not has nothing to do with anything at this moment, because he is completely right and I can assure that ANY market researcher (or in an ideal world any kindergardner) would agree. Even thought I don't agree with the timing of the price drop.

rezzah4457d ago (Edited 4457d ago )

My 1st comment was wrong.

In the case of waiting to see if sales will lower, it makes sense if you wish to save money.

However, expectation that a lowered price will come as quickly and resemble that of the 3DS is questionable.

The only thing that a person could lose out on by following this set of mind is losing the possibility of a 1st edition bundle.

So basically it is up to that person if they wish to sacrifice possibility of a quickly lowered price to getting a 1st edition.

Overall LogicWins is right in his speculation.

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mayberry4456d ago

because CynicalVision, cnet has a preconcived negative attitude toward Sony products. jus sayin!

Majin-vegeta4457d ago

*What if the Vita had an Apple logo instead of Sony's?

It would cost $500+ and we would see a new ones every year with minor upgrades e.g.psvita4s or something along those lines :D.

Queefy_B4457d ago

Exactly, and why should the price be dropped? 250 is fine, heck if people wanna be cheapskates let them, look at the 3ds that was 300 at launch and i wouldnt even buy one if it was 49.99.

supremacy4456d ago

Agreed, I just think as long as the ecosystem remains the same across all apple products then many wouldnt mind upgrading their devices every so often.

I strongly feel Sony should offer all those mobile games found on cellphones for the same prices they are on the cellphones.

For example instead of jacking up the price for something like angry birds to say $5.00 from 99cents. They should just sell it for its original 99cent price off the ps store.

You know, fill the store with thousands of 99cent games. Doesnt matter if they are ports or not, the vita is already build to play like a smartphone with its touchscreen controls. The transition I am sure will be a rather painless one.

Imagine the ps store full of 99cent games, along with psone classics which retail for $5, then add $9.99 psp games for download as well as regular psn titles and vita games. And simply give the vita owners access to all of these.

This is something that would change things and potentially add a whole new audience as well.

Also Sony should consider making new skues which should include a decent size memory card, headphones and a 10dollar psn card.

Reduce the price on each model by $50.00 and you got yourself a winner.

user39039994456d ago

"Imagine the ps store full of 99cent games, along with psone classics which retail for $5, then add $9.99 psp games for download as well as regular psn titles and vita games. And simply give the vita owners access to all of these. "

But then you'll probably have a bunch of idiots saying it's useless because they already have it on their phones.

And those 99 cent apps are almost never 99 cents. In app cost on some app are up to $99.
And some developers make their games to where you have to buy in app crap to advance.

Pikajew4457d ago

It would cost 2000$ more and sell a lot more

Akiba964457d ago

Then mindless apple fans would eat it up... and it would probably get a ad push as well..

Even if you don't like apple, you have to admit, they are very good at pushing product.

On the other hand I have only seen crappy taco bell Vita ads...

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Apple officially allows retro game emulators on the App Store

Retro gaming console emulator apps are now welcome on the Apple App Store and can even offer downloadable games.

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-Foxtrot13d ago

Nintendo is probably preparing their battle stations as we speak.

purple10113d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Yep most probably
Definitely infact

It’s just since apple got official dualsense support a while ago, (ios 14.5, it was 2 years ago now) I thought it useful to post here

fsfsxii12d ago

Lmao imagine thinking nintendo has a chance against Apple

Profchaos12d ago

The beaten quite a few prolific companies the past like universal so it's not unwinable

H913d ago

Nintendo be like: we were supposed to bully them together

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10 Weirdest Game Consoles of All Time

From systems that could keep your beer cool, to oddities trying to get in on the popularity of VHS and laserdisc, you’ve got some very, very weird video game consoles out there.

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darthv7215d ago

I had the LaserActive... it was a nice collectors piece but not very practical. Especially when it came to needing recapping. I think i paid all of about $50 for the floor model from an incredible Universe back in the day. I ended up selling it many years later for $300 at the time due to it needing a new laser and the aforementioned recapping.

An honorable mention not on the list would be the VM Labs Nuon. It basically looked like any regular DVD player but it had ports on it for controllers to play specific games. one of which is still exclusive to it with Tempest 3000. It also offered nuon enhanced DVD movies with extra content not accessible by regular players.

_Decadent_Descent15d ago

Wasn't there some KFC console, or am I mistaken?

CoNn3rB14d ago

It was announced but it never actually came out as far as I know

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6415d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long15d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197215d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer15d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197215d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218315d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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