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New Sony Chief Executive Reveals Fast-Forward Plans

The next chief executive of Sony Corp. promises to forge a new path for a company that once dominated the business of filling free time with the creation of wildly popular consumer products, from Trinitron TVs to Walkman music players and PlayStation game consoles.

The selection of 51-year-old Kazuo Hirai by Sony's board Wednesday ends the reign of Howard Stringer, the boisterous and charismatic Brit who in 2005 became the company's first non-Japanese chief executive and over seven years as boss couldn't turn around Sony's electronics business.

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MGRogue20174456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

I don't think so.. Not if I can help it, How much you need?? *opens wallet*

... Take it easy though, plz.. don't go too overboard.. limit is $50 ;)

MariaHelFutura4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Sony will be fine, if anything they need to seriously restructure the PS marketing division.

Parapraxis4456d ago

The PS division is one of main reasons they are still afloat.

MariaHelFutura4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Let's be real about something....

MS can make something average seem great and Sony has problems having great things recognized the way they should be this generation. Example... I haven't seen ONE PSVita commercial yet and it comes out in 2 weeks!! Kinect one the other hand (which I dislike BTW), I saw countless commercials before it launched. If Sony doesn't make people aware of the platform, don't expect it to sell aswell as it could. Just being amazing in this day and age doesn't do it, the world moves too fast..you have to inform people as much as possible because the average person has the attention span of a puppy.

@gamingdroid

No. I stopped clicking N4G articals a long time ago. Oh well... Sony still needs to advertise the PS platforms better!!!

gamingdroid4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

@MariaHelFutura

Did you not read the article?

They clearly spell out some of the troubles Sony is having, including 7 straight year of losses for the TV division, 4 straight years of losses for the company (soon to be five), a $2 billion loss in last quarter and 17% sales drop.

Sony is just figuring out that "experience" is what drives sales these days, not hardware that will be replaced shortly:

"Mr. Hirai described his strategic goal as teaching the company's 168,000 employees that past successes in manufacturing must be replaced by selling the harder-to-quantify "user experience." The world has moved on, he said, "We can't just continue to be a great purveyor of hardware products, even though some people expect us to do that.""

The good news, Hirai turned a $2 billion loss on the PS3 business around so he has some merit to potential turn-around. Then again, Stringer did too.

It is far easier to start a new business than fix an ailing one....

Army_of_Darkness4456d ago

I would totally buy one!! they just too expensive compared to the other brands.

baodeus4456d ago

I think charging premium prices in this economy is what kills them (especially their TV vs many others TV that are cheaper and probably better too).

Sony really have to realize that they aren't the only one in the market anymore (from TV to gaming console to even smaller devices like music player etc...).

Legion4456d ago

It's more their TV business and other areas that are needing the attention, as the PS side has seen a turn around already.

Sony has the same issue that Apple does of making a product and pricing themselves out of the market with it. (talking Apple computers here) Sony TVs are too expensive for the market to handle... especially with the economy the way it is today.

And they need to be aware that their marketing plan is not working. Market wisely and use the resources that you already have. They seem to be relying too much on their name versus actually advertising properly. Can't rest on old laurels.

princejb1344456d ago

competition is to fierce now adays
i used to love sony products from mp3s to tvs cell phones
than apple came along and is dominating every business its profits with a phone and a laptop

and we still in a recession so that may also be the blame for losing money
i havent bought a game since mw3(which i regret)

there tvs are to expensive at times
i ended up buying a from a tv brand i never heard of (dynex) just because it was cheap

SwampCroc4455d ago

yeah the PS division is why Hirai is getting promoted in the first place..

he is the one that turned PS back around.

BattleAxe4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

Its their TV division that is really getting hit hard.

If i were CEO:

- drop the TV division
- focus on their core services such as PSN
- focus on devices that support their services (Sony's Mobile Phones Division, PS3, VITA and VAIO)
- offer better pricing on Sony's own collection of Movie and Music products
- heavily promote Sony Music, Sony Television and Sony Movie Productions through the PSN
- bring full connectivity and interactivity of the PSN to the PC
- come up with creative exclusive deals to sell Sony exclusive games on a platform like Steam
- buy out companies that provide services like NETFLIX (Sony has been rumored to be interested in buying NETFLIX)
- continue to produce video cameras, photo cameras and MP3 players, and ensure that they are open source and that they do not use proprietary connectors and power chords.
- release Official PSN Apps on Android devices, iPhone, Google Chrome, Facebook and televisions made by Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp ect... ect....

Soldierone4455d ago

Why did people take that comment so negatively? I mean come on, Sony has amazing products they just suck at marketing things. They spend their money on products and that is great, but it still needs to get known.

The Kevin Butler ads were great, then they disapear and PlayStation isn't in the media anymore. Yet you see Xbox all over Disney, kids stuff, products, advertised on sports games, it's every where. Vita is hardly known, and the Taco Bell thing seems to be as far as that is going to go.

Let's put it this way. PlayStation is selling extremely well with limited marketing, imagine if Sony put a force behind it? Sales would sky rocket.

Also at the person above, TV sales are actually a high point for Sony. It was only a low point when they put their money into Plasma, thats over and done with now.

Dee_914455d ago

@maria
the got that taco bell vita commercial.But I havent seen a commercial only about the vita.
Marketing isnt only commercials .Commercials play a big part.however they could still really improve on marketing.

zag4455d ago

marketing is only 1 thing.

To make people want to buy something you also need content.

Sony have plenty of content but their products don't access it fully, everything is moving to a digital copy/download only type service and I think Sony is going to end up only releasing via downloads at some point 2-3 years time maybe sooner.

MS market heaps but that's all they do really, they don't make games anymore, they have dropped flightsim the only thing they made that was a game for about 20 years this has now turned into a kids kinect type flight sim game thing now, it's probably going to be an utter waste of time.

MS don't make any content what so ever they rely 100% for content from other companies, if those companies go bust there less or no content on the 360 etc.

I think Sony will end up coming around probably with the next gen because they'll have all their music/tv shows/movies/games and what ever else that comes be all linked up together in the one hub that you can access very easy.

The PS3 and PSN works well but when you try to link in online stuff it's a bit flaky at best, you can really tell they kinda had an idea but the idea wasn't exactly right for what has ended up happening.

I don't know if the next xbox will be a big seller as I think Sony is really hoping the content side will pull them through.

tokugawa4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

most of the people on here are not living on the same planet!

not so long ago, sony equalled quality..at a premium price, and people were prepared to pay for it.

fast forward to now, and for every over priced sony product, you can probably find a better quality product, made by someone else (like samsung) at a better price.

in 2011, like an idiot, and against my better judgement. i bought a 46" LED 3D bravia...and it is shit! all the reviews (which came after i bought it coz it was a 2011 model ) stated the exact problems that i have with it.

i wasted over $1400 - £1200 -1400 euros on it. i shouldve got a samsung or a cinema 3D LG. i just bought a camcorder. and after researching my purchase, i got a samsung, which outperforms sony products, but was around $100 cheaper than them.

sony need to pull their heads out of their arses! now the only sony product i will buy is their consoles! the rest are just overpriced, because it has sony wrote on it.

dont flame or bubble me down kids. i am just speaking from experience. the days of guarantedd sony quality are long gone. most people know it.. except sony themselves! oh and top-ten/blogs4fanboys army

tokugawa4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

mods delete please double post

tokugawa4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

mods delete please triple post

sikbeta4455d ago

@MariaHelFutura

Nop, it's the whole Sony Corp, not just PlayStation, duh, SCE is actually one of the few divisions working well...

O-T

Fix This S*** Kaz! :D

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Ranma14456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Hirai, what you should do is merge with an OIL company.

Then you will have a bottomless war chest to fund the PS4

...this is based off my experience of business

LaChance4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Even more exclusives is the solution Sony ! That will help you beat the 360 and Wii worldwide just like you''re doing right now !

MariaHelFutura4456d ago

From a gamers perspective nothing is wrong w/ more exclusives... AT ALL. They just need to market themselves better..like MS.

Godchild10204456d ago

I think I'll take less exclusives with better market or more marketing for their AAA games.

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cjflora4455d ago

I love how everyone always assumes articles like this are specifically referring to Playstation. Sony is much bigger than their gaming console.

gigreen4455d ago

I don't think exclusives are the solution.

As some people said, they need to focus on better marketing. The first step would be getting rid of the name Playstation.

sikbeta4455d ago

I'll take more exclusives than anything, you know, gaming is my thing, don't give a f*** about financial s*** and all that :P

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metsgaming4456d ago

just look at all the great things Hirai has done, if anyone can fix their problems its him. Plus with him as CEO you would think more money would go towards playstation. Which it will he even said that he will focus on the core business which gaming is apart of.

I found out yesterday from an article that Stringer cant even speak Japanese !!!!! He was CEO of a japanese company but cant speak the language at all i mean come on.

salinidus4455d ago

sony will be fine especially with such an enthusiastic and goal driven person (kaz hirai) now taking the helm

Jamaicangmr4455d ago

who would disagreethis was comedy God lol!
+ bubble man.

Consoldtobots4455d ago

"I would totally buy one!! they just too expensive compared to the other brands."

IMO this has been sony's whole problem, way overpriced products(tv's) when people can buy a similiar "experience" for sometimes half the price. Add to that the most incompetent advertising campaign I've ever seen for any products in the states and you have this...

seriously when was the last time you anything Sony advertised on TV on any consistent basis?

TOSgamer4455d ago

@BattleAxe

How does buying netflix fix anything? If anything netflix has their own problems which include about 3 billion plus of debt in contract obligations for content. Their dvd business is evaporating and they make squat on their stream business.

morkendo234452d ago

what they need to do is bring back VARIETY!! of ps2 era. gamers CANT live on hardcore only games.we need platformers an sidescrolling games too.

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-Mezzo-4456d ago

I enjoy Sony's Console & Televisions, i really hope they bounce back & keep on going.

dragon824456d ago

Besides my PS3, I really enjoy my Sony tv and camera. I hope they are around for a very long time.

Nathaniel_Drake4456d ago

Yeah Sony has great products, hope they bounce back

Bowzabub4456d ago

Sony leaves gaming, I leave gaming.

SuperLupe4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Sony leaves gaming I'll carry on gaming.

When I had a 360 100% of my gaming had nothing to do with Sony.

And trust me I was having as much of a blast as I'm having now on my PS3.

Im 22 years old and some of the best experiences I've had in gaming were courtesy of Nintendo, MS or Sega (Skies of Arcadia, Shemnue and Jet Set Radio).

There is life outside of Sony guys. Why do you do this to yourselves ?

UnSelf4456d ago

if it aint Sony, its phony

rhcpfan4456d ago

@SuperLupe

Exactly. The best games of this gen were always multi-platform IMO.

dredgewalker4456d ago

If Sony leaves gaming and there's only multiplatform games available then I'm sticking to my pc.

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Rush4456d ago

Why not leave anyway... few less loyalty blind gamers can only be a good thing.

gtxgamer24456d ago

yall are just a bunch of haters.

Ethereal4455d ago

@Rush Just because some of us have a preference in console choice does not mean we are "loyalty blind gamers" Don't assume shit....I am a gamer before anything else, although I feel Sony is instrumental in industry innovation and risk taking. Which is why I take this position.

Aloren4455d ago

Having a preference is different from giving up something you enjoy for that kind of reason. I must say I'm even surprised someone would say such a thing, it doesn't make any more sense to me than giving up phones if apple stops making them.
I sure hope you "just say that" and don't really mean it... I know I didn't leave gaming when Atari, Amiga, or Sega left, and I won't leave gaming either when or if Nintendo, Sony, or MS stop making consoles.

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thebudgetgamer4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

No, as much as I like Sony I have seen too many companies come and go to deter my favorite hobby.

Atari, Sega, Colleco, SNK ect.

Simon_Brezhnev4456d ago

I wont leave gaming just be strictly PC gaming.

nnotdead4455d ago

i could see myself going the same way, but there is no way i could commit to such a statement. sure i haven't been excited for a Nintendo console since the Ultra 64 was first talked about, and i refuses to pay for a Live Gold membership to play online, but to say either(or another company) couldn't make something in the future that i would be interested in seems like s stretch.

orange-skittle4455d ago

Sorry, there's nothing great about PC gaming to me. I don't do keyboard and mouse. I also don't do upgrades. It would cost more to upgrade a rig than buy one already spec'ed-out.

Simon_Brezhnev4455d ago

@orange
Good for you but you do realize you can use ps3/360 controller for PC. It's actually cheaper to build a rig than have a ps3/360 for 6 years. PC games are already cheaper. Online is more tolerant way quicker to ignore people.

_Aarix_4456d ago (Edited 4456d ago )

Dont let the door hit all yall asses on the way out!

Seriously, gaming is gaming, no matter who provides it. If you think otherwise then I WANT you guys to quit gaming.

VINNIEPAZ4456d ago

"There is life outside of Sony guys. Why do you do this to yourselves ?"

Please, let them go man. Sony fanboys are the worst

undisputed4455d ago

Because 360 fanboys are any better. Please, all fanboys are annoying.

Bastion174456d ago

Cause that makes so much sense right?

dark-hollow4456d ago

I played before nintendo with the atari and i played with nes/snes before sony and i played ps1/ps2/ps3.

As long as there creative minds and great developers out there then i wont quit gaming.

Nobody ever gives credit the all the hard working men and women who develop the games themselves.

As long as the industry is moving on and still pumbing games then am very happy.
That doesn't mean that i want sony/nintendo or ms to disappeare.

Gazondaily4455d ago

A lot of the SDF scourge are most likely little kids on here so they probably won't even know what an Atari is.

Love that stupid mob mentality; 'if Sony leaves gaming, I leave gaming.' Lol one of the biggest fanboy statements on N4G but it has more agrees than disagrees.

NEXT WEEK on N4G: Man divorces wife when he discovers her playing on Xbox 360. Top comment: "Damn right, I would do the same!"

Legion4456d ago

If I had played that card when I started gaming then I would have been missing out on a lot after Atari, Intellivision, Sega and so many others dropped out of the console business.

What if they stay in gaming but go the Sega route and just do games on other systems? What will you do then???

Consoldtobots4455d ago

I think there is something to this....

wether 360 fanboys like it or not alot of people simply can't stomach MS and their approach to this industry. That being said, if Sony were to ever leave gaming it WOULD create a huge downswing in the gaming market which added to microsoft's lack of commitment to hardcore gamers will create another gaming crash like back in the 80's.

there is no upside to this scenario no matter how much MS fanboys keep telling you the grass is green in their lawn.

orange-skittle4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

What in the hell are you talking about? First off, how old are you? I ask because no intelligent man would make a retarded statement like that. What approach to the industry did MS make that makes your stomach turn? What did they do so differently that Sony didn't do? Last time I checked, Sony wanted in by means of Nintendo(Dolphin) and when they felt like they weren't going to make enough money w/ the Nintendo deal, they came in the industry on their own spiting Nintendo. SO WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! Microsoft said from day one that their goal was to create a MULTIMEDIA home entertainment console and that's exactly what they are putting together. Who said it was gonna be free? They have always had a subscription based format unlike Sony that decided to do it last year with PSN PLUS. That's the FUCKED UP APPROACH you should be talking about. If Sony left gaming, there would be no love lost. Many companies have come and gone. They would do what SEGA did and focus on software since they own so many studios. They don't need to make consoles. If they were smart, they would partner up w/ MS instead of trying to compete with them.

There's no question about Sony's superior hardware, but at this stage in the game...it's more profitable to make software and chips for the next Xbox than make another console. Every new console is sold at a loss for at least 2 years and they can't afford that. Either make the PS3 stretch longer or think about making a new machine with MS since clearly both companies have their strengths and weaknesses.

@HiredHelp-Seriously, Sony is talking about HUGE LOSSES and you're still talking about them giving free online. Jesus Christ! Why do you think they came out w/ PSN Plus? They can't afford it, dummy. That's why all the good stuff is on PSN Plus and free players don't get shit, but free online. No access to full game demos, free games, free themes, free avatars, reduced prices, early BETA's, ect. All I hear from Sony ONLY followers is FREE FREE FREE! No one wants to buy shit anymore, but yet they get up in arms when a company files Chapter 11 or decides to make people pay for content.

PimpDaddy4455d ago

A lot of people jumped OFF the Sony bandwagon this generation because of Sony's approach to this industry. Sony delayed the launch of the PS3. The PS3 cost $599.00 at launch. They overhyped the power of the console. They forced Blu-Ray down our throats and made us pay for it when it WASN'T needed. It opened the door for the 360 to get an advantage in marketshare and establish XBL.

I owned a PS1 and PS2. I bought both at launch because they were priced competitively. I couldn't wait for a PS3 and wasn't going to pay 600 dollars for one at launch. So I ended up buying a 360 at launch and haven't regretted it.

Just like every generation of videogames since my original Atari 2600 I am a multiple console owner this generation. I bought a PS3 when the Slim came out and it was $299.00 Though I mostly used it for Blu-Ray I do buy a few exclusives every year too.

What I find laughable is this "lack" of commitment you talk about. The 360 may not have as many exclusives as the PS3 but the ones they do have are good quality and marketed well. Even with the list of exclusives Sony faithful brag about the highest selling games for either console are always multiplatform. Then when you look at the higher game attach ratio for the 360 vs the PS3 it just makes your statement more humorous.

If Sony left there wouldn't be a crash like in the early 80's. Sony isn't the end all, be all that you guys claim them to be. None of these companies are perfect. It's up to each of us as an individual to decide what games and experiences we want for ourselves.

Gazondaily4455d ago

and Consoldtobots has five bubbles.....

People can't stomach MS' approach to the industry? What a load of sensationalist bull. Do you work for the gamingbolt?

Honestly, aside from proving your complete ignorance and lack of integrity, you've also shown your desperate fanboyism, your specific allegiance of which, has netted you those bubbles. Read PIMPdaddy's comment for an informed one that was a result of at least some cerebral effort.

Le sigh. Idiocy so rife on these comment pages.

Biggest4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

I have to address this:

"I owned a PS1 and PS2. I bought both at launch because they were priced competitively."

Why start your fake rant with a lie? The PS and PS2 were at least $100 more expensive than their competition. I don't care why you bought them or if you even did. They were priced then the way they are priced now. A similar Xbox360 was -$100 compared to a PS3.

They may have hyped up the "power" of the system, but it has shown itself to be less hype and more truth. The developers that care to get the most from the hardware show how powerful it can be. You had a problem with BluRay? That's strange. You bought the PS with its unnecessary CD playback. You bought the PS2 with its unnecessary DVD drive. Hmmm. . . Is it just coincidence that DVD became the norm for games and video? Is it a coincidence that BluRay is the new norm for video and may end up as the new norm for games?

Consoldtobots is correct about a lack of commitment to hardcore gamers. You pointed out "The 360 may not have as many exclusives as the PS3 but the ones they do have are good quality and marketed well" and followed that with "the highest selling games for either console are always multiplatform." That's the thing about commitment. It's doing a thing regardless the outcome. Microsoft may have noticed that making their own games doesn't work as often as they would like, so they allow someone else to make them. Sony allows others to make games for them, but will do what they can to offer even more content. So unless you're going to make the argument that people playing Sesame Street Kinect are hardcore gamers, your own comments have proven your point wrong.

I don't agree that Sony leaving gaming would kill gaming. I do know that there is no reason for them to leave and they won't leave. People didn't jump off the Sony bandwagon because of anything. They jumped on the 360 bandwagon because it was the only wagon there. They didn't want to get off because the media said the PS3 wasn't good enough. Fast forward many years and you see the same people refusing to change their view and using XBL, marketing, and sales to show their allegiance to the bandwagon.

Also. . . Sony is talking about HUGE LOSSES. In none of their talking have they mentioned PSN or Playstation. As mentioned many, MANY times before this: The gaming division is one of the few divisions posting gains instead of losses.

Edit: And seriously. . . Stop trying to make PS+ look like XBL. "...had a subscription based format unlike Sony that decided to do it last year with PSN PLUS. That's the F***** UP APPROACH you should be talking about." Sony gave you the option to buy a GameFly membership (granted you can't pick the games). Stop paying for XBL and PS+ and see who enjoys their copy of Battlefield 3 the most.

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tiffac0084455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

Sony isn't going to leave the only market their consumer electronic division profits on. So I think you shouldn't worry about that.

They'll probably have a higher chance of leaving the TV market which is bleeding money more than any other division they have.

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hiredhelp4456d ago

I hoped next playstation will be free online but if its gonna help rebuild sony's pockets that will inturn benifit us with better products then im up fr paying some kind of subscription per year.
On a personal note to Mr Hirai respect sir respect.

OcularVision4456d ago

I think you forget PS+ exists :S
The free content + discounts aren't really worth it though imo. The free games are ancient from the PSOne era, and the discounts are often on mediocre games.

nnotdead4455d ago

not for me. this would be the quickest way for me to go into PC only mode. unless the Wii U surprises me with its games and features, but i doubt that.

milohighclub4456d ago

Wanna improve sony?

Tvs- cheaper

Vita- add audio/video outputs so you can plug into the head mounted display

HMD- change the design back to the prototype

3d- get rid of crosstalk, release ps4

Playstation - release ps4

dredgewalker4455d ago (Edited 4455d ago )

I'm sure you're just as capable as any CEO of any corporation /s

milohighclub4455d ago

Not saying I am, I just purchased a new tv and would of bought a Sony but I ain't paying 2000 for a tv with crosstalk hell I wouldn't pay 1000 for a Sony tv in there current state.

Would love a head mounted display, unfortunately there is no point as I have a wicked tv and am fortunate enough to live with my gf who doesn't mind the playstation been on even though she can't even watch it as I play in 3d the majority of the time. Now if I could plug in a vita to it I would buy one.

Sony are so focused and have spent a lot of money investing in 3d which even though I love it, let's face it, current consoles are not powerful enough and whilst there is still jaggys in games it will always ruin 3d. Take uncharted, by far one of the best 3d games out but is ruined by jaggys which make the game look a mess.

Also one missed opportunity with 3d, the cheapest way to get consumers into 3d would be vita. Just sayin.

dredgewalker4455d ago

I apologize if I sounded a bit rude. But we have to understand that there are decisions that companies make that may or may not make sense to us, but in truth lots of considerations were made into making them. Companies need to able to satisfy their customers while making a profit and that is very difficult to do. There are 3 types of customers today and you can classify them as A, B and C. You can either have A and B or B and C as customers but you will find it impossible to have all types. Some companies even target a single type of customer so that it will be far easier to give them a product that suites their needs. Cheaper doesn't always mean getting more customers if it means that you are selling at a loss. You only sell at a loss if there is some trojan strategy with that product you are selling. Case in point with the PS3 which sold at a loss, because part of its strategy was to make bluray's adoption rate climb at a faster pace. Also Sony has tons of developers that make their games and are the real moneymakers for them. It's a similar strategy to selling a printer for cheap because the real earning is in the ink they have to replace.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies12d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken12d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga12d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken12d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6412d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12512d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91312d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer12d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher12d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher12d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken12d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2312d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder12d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts12d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades18d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken18d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades18d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii18d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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