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John Carmack crashes PC gamers' hopes for a High-Resolution Texture Pack on RAGE

DSOGaming writes: "You've probably already heard of a high resolution texture pack for RAGE was rumored to get released after its official launch. This rumored texture pack was supposed to be 150GB in size and would update the game's low-res textures with some proper, high-res ones. Well, this is not gonna happen as John Carmack admited that the source textures are almost the same as the ones that are currently used in RAGE PC."

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gravemaker4567d ago

thats one shitty textures, carmack should be ashamed of his company

BattleAxe4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

Boy oh boy, the disappointments keep rolling in for Carmack. I don't think I've ever seen someones reputation get destroyed so fast. His reputation was like the "Housing Bubble" cause by the sub-prime mortgages, it was so worthless that you knew it had to crash.

ApplEaglElephant4567d ago

While his game may not be best looking on consoles, i think he did a great job.

But on PC, he half assed the shit out of it.

kaveti66164567d ago

You've spent way too much time on this website, Battleaxe.

You're out of touch with reality.

The opinions on this site are not a reflection of the real world. Sorry to burst your bubble.

BattleAxe4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

@ Kaveti

You should talk, you joined this site 2 years after I did, and yet you've managed to make 2000 more comments than I have. Being out of touch with reality has more in common with believing that Carmack is a God or a Legend. He's neither, in fact I'd say he's a "has been" that needs to not only shut his mouth, but also to shut the doors to this studio, as they have produced nothing of any significance in the last 10 years.

elshadi4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

@ApplEaglElephant
"I can understand Low rez text for consoles, but why not PC"
he has no excuse

ohh wait ...he just tweet this as we talk:
"ahhhh...ahmmmm bec ..PC has a Tight memory, Poor IO Performance ?!!!"

@evrfighter
Agreed

evrfighter4567d ago

ive been saying for a few years now that carmack was a washed up has been.

Now people are starting to see the truth.

wicko4567d ago

Says a bunch of random people who don't understand technology. Glad your opinions are in the minority

VvKILLAGOOSEvV4567d ago

Carmack is like the stock market right now...No matter how many protests go on around the world, he still says screw you.

Iroquois_Pliskin4567d ago

after games like DOOM and Quake. i considered Carmarck a hero.... but then Rage came out,after all the hype....

NarooN4566d ago

"as they have produced nothing of any significance in the last 10 years. "

I know Carmack and his studio fucked up, but why the fuck does everyone keep saying this? They did Doom 3, which alone was pretty damn significant on Xbox and PC. To deny that is a fucking joke. They also helped with Quake 4, another big PC release.

Just because they didn't have a lot of presence on consoles back then doesn't mean shit.

DeadlyFire4566d ago

Do you guys really think this bothers the PC community? Have you not seen what gamers have given DOOM 3 with their own created High-Res Texture pack. Does a PC gamer need some extra crap like that on a disc? We already have visual lead.

I personally believe PC edition should have only shipped with High-Res textures and no low res ones, but hey can't change that. Just build a Texture pack and throw it in the game. Its moddable anyway since its on the PC platform. Just give it some time. Someone will do it.

Perjoss4566d ago

kaveti6616 is 100% right, a bunch of raving haters does not = all gamers. Just remember that people that love Rage will not seek out a forum to rave about it, they will be playing it!

Carmack's biggest mistake with Rage was putting such a high priority on 5+ year old technology (consoles) instead of focusing on PC. I get the feeling future games from id will be different, they will still be tech 5 but optimised for PC and I can't wait.

I'm not anti-console, there are plenty of amazing developers that focus heavily on consoles so it will make no difference to console gamers if id turns back to its roots.

Darrius Cole4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

I agree with Perjoss. I am a console gamer (PS2, Xbox, PS3, 360, PSP) and have never bought a game on PC, at least not yet.

I think developers get greedy and become dissatisfied 'being what they are'. It looks like Carmack and ID are PC developers who saw the console pasture and thought it was greener but forgot to take care of their real base first. You can tell where their real base is by looking at who care most when they screw up. Clearly PC guys are more offended by Rage. ID should have said to themselves, "We are PC developers first, most of our fans and games are on PC."

Rage should have been made to PC gamers expectations and then ported to consoles as best they could port. The fact is, once Uncharted 3 and Modern Warfare release, in 2 and 3 weeks respectively; console gamers won't give Rage another moments consideration. More importantly they won't sell any more copies on either console. Rage will be totally forgotten.

I suppose ID saw the success of the Elder Scrolls and Battlefield series in moving over from PC and wanted to try doing that themselves. But so far they have fallen short, they have done anything that console gamers would miss. BF and ES took care of the home base first (have you seen the BF3 PC footage?)

Console gamers won't care one bit if ID goes back to their PC roots.

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InNomeDiDio4567d ago

It was the FIRST TEST according to the High Res Textures. Keep it easy people ...

elshadi4567d ago

and yet there is still sad trolls believe any thing poor carmack say
and i'm very happy that he failed
he screwed the pc/ps3 versions
bec he's in love with xbox

stevenhiggster4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

I don't want to sound like a crazy fanboy or anything, but he really just should have made the game a 360 exclusive.
They've well and truly ballsed the PC version and he does nothing but bad mouth the PS3!

Ducky4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

^ I'm playing Rage on PC.

Get a constant 60fps and the game has some of the best visuals-over-performance ratio of any game I've played on my PC so far.
... and this is on an ATI GPU as well.

The launch was a bit rough, but the last patch fixed most of my woes.
Textures also appear fine to me.
I feel like I'm playing in concept art.

Don't see why the game should've been exclusive to 360.

TheDivine4567d ago

How did he screw the ps3 version? I have the ps3 version and its among the best looking titles ive played on ps3 and it has a steady 60fps. Only problem is texture popin that you have to look for. You only notice it if you spin around really fast and look for it. This game on consoles is a technical marvel and its fun as hell.

cjflora4566d ago

Not me, EVERY time I turn the camera I have very slow and distracting texture pop in. I would almost prefer they just stay low texture so that it isn't so distracting. The only time the game looks nice is when I'm not moving, which isn't very often.

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AAWELLS094567d ago

Your comment doesnt make sense. Do you always post nonsense?

qwertyz4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

you can unlock higher res textures for RAGE by editing the config file but you'll need vram but even with 1gb you can still double the texture resolution without having much of an issue. even without advanced settings tweaked and all the problems with the pc version it still looks better on my high end rig nvidia powered rig than anything on consoles :/ PC FTW!!!!!

yeah the pc version of course could have looked MUCH better if carmack had shifted his focus from 360 and spend more time on the oc version but well looks like hes an xbot because the ps3 version was also inferior to the 360 version in the visual and performance departments(proven by digital foundries)and with far more texture pop-ins than the 360 version running without ANY hdd install which is complete B.S because the ps3 version requires an 8gb MANDATORY install

Darrius Cole4566d ago

Yeah, PS3 gamers, like myself, are really going to love that(sarcasm)....spending 8GB of storage for what is still a weaker performance. It looks like ID got almost finished with development and realized that they made a broken and unplayable PS3 game, and Sony bailed them out by allowing an 8GB installation in order to make the game playable.

caperjim4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

I dont understand why the PC version was the same price as consoles. Usually games are at least $10 cheaper at launch. I was expecting more for the price i payed. Especially with all the hype with this game.

thedarkvault4566d ago

yeah I want to pick it up for PC eventually, but not @ 60. I'll wait until its between 30-40 before it's worth getting. Save my 60 for BF3.

caperjim4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

@thedarkvault
Shouldnt be too long before the price drops. Its not a bad game but most gamers expected more for the price and the hype around it.

My game ran great on my GTX580 so texture loading wasnt an issue for me. I just found it very linear, repetitive with very little exploring.

DragonKnight4566d ago

Despite what you've been told, a $60 price tag is NOT just the result of packaging and marketing adding to the price. It's what the publisher wants to charge for the game. If PC games are $50 it's because that's what the Publisher wants to charge, simple as that. Entitlement is foolish.

trancefreak4566d ago

It is the new trend and I don't really see it stopping.

If they want to starve pc gamers of good games then the pricing will continue and take note more PC gamers will just not buy the product. Its not even that though medal of honor sucked IMO and it was 59.99 U.S I guess that is EA games for ya along with activision.

Company's have their pricing model in place and PC games should be 10 dollars cheaper but they believe feel that they should sell them for the same amount as console? why? Greed for the green and since console gamers pay that price why not tap the PC gamers as well.

We all know of the console Licensing fees so why should we pay the extra bucks. That is the question.

Im not really stating facts or sources but its just what I have observed from recent trends. An example being crysis 2 shipping with so many problems - DX11 and high end gaming options. Even with all the fixes that game does not deserve its price.

Crytek wont even support the game crysis 2 anymore. There are known issues for the game and they are dropping patch support for these issues along with their broken online hack fest that made most online gamers just move on. They have no community interaction and I wont buy Crytek products anymore.

Valve still sells their games for a fair price and they support them for ever. More company's' need to follow the valve model.

It also appears taking Cryengine 3 and Now IDTech 5 that when they release their game with the new game engine their seems to to be big issues technically and unfortunately.

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ATi_Elite4566d ago

Carmack is this Months official Ass Clown!

He has blamed everybody and everything else for Rage's issues except himself! I NO Longer have any respect for Carmack and the guy is a total dooche bag!

instead of just being a man and apologizing to Gamers and fixing his game he has blamed AMD, Nvidia, PC Gamers, The Cell, The PS3, Microsoft, Xbox360 designers, Pc Gamers again, and other horse crap for the performance and texture issues of Rage!

Carmack is a Jerk and a "Has been" Dev who hasn't done anything since Doom and Quake!

beardtm4566d ago

so much for MEGATEXTURES...

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decrypt4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

We wont be buying your game either Lolmack, too many other good releases to even bother.

StayStatic4567d ago

indeed , gameover , for now at least...

Horny4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

i was caught in the hype and bought it. I was already pissed about no reviews being out which I wish I would have waited for. Its not really open world and there is no story. You are just an errand boy doing stuff for people. Wasnt blown away by the graphics or detail. I liked some of the backgrounds like the pile of bodies in the first hideout and the skulls but everything has shitty textures and seems 2d when you got up close.
I ended up selling on craiglist.

turgore4566d ago

Ill buy it when its like 20 bucks.

pumpactionpimp4566d ago

If BRINK is any indication, it will be $19.99 in 2 months.

cjflora4566d ago

Maybe wait until it's like $10.

Hufandpuf4567d ago

Looks like all that RAGE hype went right down the drain.

ReservoirDog3164567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

I honestly never bought into Rage. It just never seemed good to me.

Always said id are great on the technical side but the gameplay and story just seem lacking. And now I guess I was wrong about the technical side.

edit: @ below

Yeah but I can barely care about graphics. I'm sure it's good for id but there's too little money in the world to buy Rage.

Aggesan4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

I used to think the same way as u used to, but that changed with Rage. I actually really enjoy the game, and it's really pretty as long as you don't get too close to the textures (then yes, it lookes like crap). The weapons, artstyle, setting and characters are easily the best I've seen in a game from ID so far.

Sarcasm4567d ago

The biggest lacking point of Rage is the gameplay. It's pretty boring and repetitive.

1. Talk to NPC.
2. NPC tells you to talk to other NPC.
3. Talk to other NPC which tells you to talk to another NPC.
4. NPC then sends you on a mission to kill X amount of enemies.
5. Return to NPC and then tells you again to talk to another NPC.
6. Rinse and repeat.

Im not sure how the rest of the game is because I didn't get that far enough.

Graphics do look great though, but it's like seeing a super hot woman who has a pimple on her nose. The blurry textures ruin the overall high resolution look of the game, and the strange random frame drops in car combat (even though fraps is showing it's locked at 60fps) is puzzling. And don't get me started on the texture pop ups when looking around.

bumnut4567d ago

Your comment describes most games.

Johnny_Cojones4567d ago (Edited 4567d ago )

If there's someplace you know that has a bunch of super hot chicks with pimples on their noses, & no one else wants to bone them, let me know about it.

zero_gamer4566d ago

@bumnut:

And most games billed as "zOMG AAAA BLOKBUSTAR ACTIONZ" nowadays suck, IMO anyway.

vortis4566d ago

@bumnut

That's the problem with today's generation of games. Quite sad really.

At least Deux Ex, Heavy Rain the original BioShock, GTA and Saints Row sort of steer away from the norm. The problem is that we don't get enough games like that.

Sarcasm4565d ago

Johnny, I didn't say nobody wanted to bone those super hot women with a pimple on their nose, I simply mean that Rage is a fantastic looking game but marred by random visual defects which stops it from being 100% pure eye candy.

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ZombieAssassin4567d ago

I'm sure the PC mod community will have something cooked up eventually.

Johnny_Cojones4567d ago

That's what I was thinking. By Spring, Qarl or Maldo, or whomever, will release a nice high res texture pack.

john24567d ago

Hopefully someone will, though it might be a pain in the ass with how megatexture works

MrGunny944567d ago

Who cares! John stop being retarded to the PC community, it was us who made what you are today... we don't need your help anyways... Our Mods team will do better work then you.. just look at Crysis 1 mods...

Anyways most of pc gamers pirated this bcuz we all knew this was gonna be a cheap port like Crysis 2... but crytek did the pack so it's okay with them

turgore4566d ago

thanks for telling him that. Now he won't even bother.

zero_gamer4566d ago

This whole rebellious "pirate cuz it sux" is getting a bit ridiculous don't you think? Much of the reasons behind developers focusing on consoles over the PC is due to piracy. They see pirated copies as lost potential sales and many devs have lost confidence in PC gaming as a result.

I for one don't pirate PC games because of my respect for the platform and want to support it with my wallet. I have not purchased RAGE because I am not liking what the gamers say about the PC version. I'll purchase this game once it hits the bargain bin and patched up to the point the game is actually in a playable state.

vortis4566d ago

Steamworks > piracy.

They want to avoid piracy? How about make the game digital download only. Yeah there's still a way around Steam just like there are still ways to pirate Xbox 360/PS3 games, but if they really wanted to win back PC gamers they would stop treating the community like $2 hoes and instead start treating the community like $1000 escorts.

Just saying.

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Xbox Deals With Gold and Spotlight Sale Discounts – 4th-10th Aug 2020

Neil writes: "Just been paid? Fancy getting a new game added to that backlog of shame? The Xbox Deals With Gold and Spotlight Sale is back with even more discounts on a variety of great Xbox titles. If you've got time in your life for a new gaming experience, the following bargain basement titles are available for your cut-price purchasing between 4th-10th August 2020."

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Rage's Open World Was Intimate & Memorable, Not Another Huge, Empty Sandbox

Rage from id Software and Bethesda Softworks was largely overlooked, yet its handcrafted FPS open world and memorable characters transcend genre convention.

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Fist4achin1607d ago

I enjoyed the first game. I plan to play the sequel soon!

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Here are Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE & Resident Evil 2 Remake with Ray Tracing

YouTube’s members ‘Digital Dreams’ and ‘Jose cangrejo’ have shared some videos, showcasing Pascal Gilcher’s Reshade mod – which adds Ray Tracing/Path Tracing effects – in some really old games such as Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE and Resident Evil 6.

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traumadisaster1760d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada071760d ago (Edited 1760d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X141760d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase1759d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted1760d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster1760d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack1759d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH1754d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.