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Good Idea, Bad Idea: PlayStation Vita in 2012

GR: "Kaz Hirai recently confirmed that the US and European markets would not see the release of the PlayStation Vita in 2011. Anthony Severino and Daniel Bischoff have laid out why they think it is a good idea (Anthony) and a bad idea (Daniel). Whose side are you on?"

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Sev4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

I can't wait to get my hands on the Vita. Again. Sometimes I think it's worse that I actually got to play it, now I know what I'm missing.

C'mon Sony, can't you just give me one?

I'll prob end up importing from here: http://www.play-asia.com/SO...

dbjj120884640d ago

Thanks for the link! Can't come soon enough.

user8586214640d ago

shame sony banned people from selling their products to europe......

Sev4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

Good question. I'm not entirely sure. But I have heard that to be true. Time for me to do some research, because I have to know so I can buy one :)

MaxXAttaxX4640d ago

I think it's best to launch the PS Vita with multiple game options, than to release now with little to no software.

It also gives us more money and time to spend on some pretty great games coming out later this year.

darthv724640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

"They’ve made the 3DS look like an inferior product from specs alone, then to have it at the same price point? It made the 3DS look like a rip-off compared to what the Vita offers.

Nintendo is now in a poor position with the 3DS: sell it for much less than planned, alienate early adopters, and let the world know that it was struggling. This hurt Nintendo, and I’m not sure that they can get out of it."

A couple things in that statement doesnt click. I guess the obvious fact the 3ds was technically inferior had to be reiterated in case there were those who didnt know? Seriously.

It isnt about the technical power. Its about how you sell it. Granted there are many who would say the price drop is weakness but that is the obvious position one would take with no interest in the matter. If you have no desire for the 3ds that is fine but no need try and spin the obvious into something it isnt.

I also find it funny how up until the price point of the vita was announced, people were already saying it would be over $300-400. Nintendo never said they would make it the most powerful thing on the planet nor did they say the price would stay at that point for years after launch.

Sony announces their price and we are supposed to believe rumors that it was the reason the 3ds was lowered? You nor I nor the rest of the logical thinking world knows what nintendo had in mind for this device but we sure like to proclaim we know more than them. Major BS on that part!

Nintendo in a poor position...? coming up just shy of 400k units to make their prediction for the fiscal year. That isnt poor by any means. If we are talking an 8 million prediction and only selling 2 (units not millions). THAT is an example of "POOR POSITION".

And somebody please tell me how a price drop alienates anyone. If this is bad then all those who bought a ps3 or 360 at launch or there after must be overwhelmingly PISSED at those who waited for the price to drop.

Hypocrisy at its best.

tiffac4640d ago

@decimalator

Yes the PSV is region free. It was announced at E3.

http://www.computerandvideo...

Bull5hifT4639d ago

Okay i Got $7,800 in the Bank , i am a Very Impatient Person .....i Cant Wait For The Jeolousy ill Get By Having This-And Just The Sheer Thought Of Holding This in my Hands-- Im an American , What Happens When i Import it From Japan? What are the Negatives apart from getting charged a little extra , InLighten Me

Bull5hifT4639d ago (Edited 4639d ago )

Okay i Got $7,800 in the Bank , i am a Very Impatient Person .....i Cant Wait For The Jealousy ill Get By Having This-And Just The Sheer Thought Of Holding This in my Hands-I Want To Get Started Looking On what kind of Video Files it Plays, Does the Music have an Equalizer?, or Sound Crisp in Loud From The Speakers Built In?, can i View huge 12 MegaPixel Pictures In all There Glory and not get a Dumb Down Version?, Will This Have Cooler Music Visual Effects?, How Well Does The Internat Work? , Can i Play Flash Games off The Internet?, How Long Does The Battery Last?, Can I Use The Built in GPS as a TomTom, What Kind of Memory Stick Does it Use?, Whats The Biggest Size Stick i Can Afford?, How Responsive is this Touchscreen?, How Visible is the Screen OutDoors, Will the Sun Kill Pixels in Oled Screens? - Im an American , What Happens When i Import it From Japan? What are the Negatives apart from getting charged a little extra? , InLighten Me

MaxXAttaxX4639d ago

What are you blabbering on about in that wall of text?

You're right about the price drop not really alienating anyone. And you're right about it restating the obvious about the tech specs.
BUT everything else in that quote, as harsh as it it is, is technically correct.

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BigWoopMagazine4640d ago

Agreed doc. If it's ready now, release it now, dammit. All they're doing now is letting the 3DS gain momentum. So what if the Vita costs more? Consumers that want something good will drop the bills for it, and all the features on the thing are clearly worth the money, and probably more.

MaxXAttaxX4640d ago

If it released now, it would have a terrible launch.
It's best for it to have a strong software line-up, than to have little to none at all.

mastiffchild4639d ago

When the games are there they will launch. IMHO they waited to launch PS3 and EVEN then it wasn't enough-they should have waited longer and had MORE of a launch line up. It's EVERYTHING for a console right now as 3DS has proved. Even now it's best game is one I've actually already played to death on TWO Nintendo systems(and with VC only last year!)and to my mind had Ninty had a half decent launch line up of games their console wouldn't have had a cut yet-and definitely not one of the size we've seen.

IF Sony COULD release Vita with a shedload of content worth playing today, trust me, they would, but as they won't have enough ready 'til later they're right to sit tight and release WHEN the games are ready-but they cannot mess it up then and the games MUST show the systems strengths and show them well.

3DS may never be in a weaker position than the one it's in now but the lack of a 2011 Vita shows Sony CLEARLY aren't ready yet and have learned from the past that no games at launch is BAD!! the best Sony were ever likely to even HOPE for this handheld generation was a chance to compete let alone the chance to look at reducing anyone else's market share so I reckon, right now, they're pretty happy with how it's going and are trusting that they have to have the games ready before jumping in.

Naturally, if the thing gets hacked week one it's screwed again.

ABizzel14640d ago

More bad than good.

Good because there's just way to many games to try to buy for the rest of this year.

Bad because they're going to miss out on the much needed holiday sales. That's more important than anything.

Honestly I think they should launch in the US or Europe first.

They're the biggest gaming markets in the world, and Japan is currently satisfied with the PSP which means they're making nothing but profit form the PSP over there, so why stop that. It makes no sense. In most cases the US bought more copies of PSP games so the US should be the launching pad for the PS Vita, then European and Japanese releases later.

Mustang300C20124640d ago

Why would they launch in the US first when they sell more in Japan than they do in the US with their handheld?

ABizzel14640d ago

Did you not read my comment?

They're still selling PSP's in Japan. The PSP is nothing but profit at this point, so why put out the PS Vita in Japan where the PSP is selling the most.

They would miss out on the profit they're making selling PSP's and start taking a loss since we know they'll be selling the PS Vita for less than it cost to develop for the first couple of years. That's why they should launch in the US first, and continue to bring in profit from the PSP in Japan. That's a smart business decision.

The longer they wait the cheaper PS Vita development will be, and if they launch in Japan next year, then development cost will be less. Even if it's mere cents less that will save the company a lot of money when they sell in Japan.

shadow27974639d ago

They've already said they'll be breaking even or profiting on vita out of the gate. This is not the PS3, Sony planned for the price point before developing the hardware so they wouldn't have to sell at a loss.

ABizzel14639d ago (Edited 4639d ago )

Sometimes I truly wonder do the people on n4g have brains because you guys are either seriously lacking in reading comprehension, or you just blindly post ideas you grab from your delusional minds.

Do you not remember that Kaz Hirai, someone who knows a lot more about Sony then yourself, STATED the PS Vita will not make a profit until 3 years time. THEY ARE SELLING THE PSV AT A LOSS. If that's not enough then here.

http://www.examiner.com/vid...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.1up.com/boards/p...

http://www.andriasang.com/e...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

http://www.psu.com/forums/t...

Seriously how hard is it to take 1 minute to check your facts before, posting a comment that's completely wrong. The only way the Vita won't lose money is if they include game sales with as profit for the device which is nothing more than fluffing numbers for investors.

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decimalator4640d ago

Yes, the dark ages really sucked.

rezzah4640d ago

Always seems that the Sony systems or mostly anything sony is bad in some way.

never ends, will it?

Since the PS3 release.

SilentNegotiator4640d ago

I'll eat used baby diapers if this confirmation of what we already knew (That Vita was going to be released in one region this year, others following, within the same fiscal year) is not called a "delay" by several websites. It is a Playstation product after all. Remember how GoW3 was "delayed" because Gamestop posted a 2009 release date? Or GT5 several times because sites kept creating expectations?

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Kran4640d ago

Good idea.

Why? I can now actually afford everything I want to get Q4 2011 ;P

mrmancs4640d ago

no external hd output is a amazing over site, on what to looks a (near) perfect piece of kit.

UltimateIdiot9114640d ago

I doubt it's an oversight, they probably are going to repeat what they did with the PSP.

First one will lack the output while the later models will gain the "new" feature.

As much as I probably know this will be true, I am mostly going to get the PSVita day 1.

mrmancs4640d ago

i said the same only the other day in a n4g thread , typical snidyness by a corp , yet again.

tiffac4640d ago (Edited 4640d ago )

But by putting an external HD output on the PSV the connectivity feature between it and the PS3 would fail miserably.

fullmetal2974639d ago

An HD output would definitely help Game reviewers and people who just wanna showcase the games.

Ace_Pheonix4639d ago

Yeah, didn't care when they added it to the PSP either. It's made to play away from your HDTV, so why bother? They normally look worse big in the first place. Plus, with transfarring it's really a moot feature to begin with.

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insertcoin4640d ago

I want the PS Vita to come out at the proper time, so that they have enough launch titles, enough marketing time, and enough development time to come out with a long-lasting product. I rarely get handhelds within the first three months, because I want a better idea of where my money is going in the long run, particularly since an updated PS Vita is practically an assumption.

BigWoopMagazine4640d ago

I'm sure there will be updated models, but the line-up so far is looking pretty awesome. Not sure how many of those will make launch, but there's no doubt that eventually it'll have a bunch of great games.

dbjj120884640d ago

So have we all come to terms with the name "Vita" now? I'm still a little awkward with it.

Pikajew4640d ago

I don't like it sounds like Vista and Visa. They should have made it more catchy

decimalator4640d ago

No less awkward than Wii U. Oh yeah, well Wii U too pal.

Ace_Pheonix4639d ago

Ha, or Wii in general. It sounded SO ridiculous at first, but now it's normal as pie. I hated Vita at first, but it's growing on me pretty fast.

Trexman894640d ago

I just say PSV. Just as catchy as NGP.

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PlayStation Vita Issues Have Tarnished the Legacy of an Otherwise Great System

The Vita is a well-designed system, albeit one that Sony left for dead as soon as it hit its first bump in the road. If it weren't for a couple negative quirks, it might have even been one of the best handhelds ever made. Unfortunately, those quirks have turned into awful problems as of late, and have only served to tarnish the legacy of what has otherwise been an excellent cult system.

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lptmg2417d ago

I like the Vita a lot. I actually blame Sony in putting less faith in it than it should

Prince_TFK2416d ago

I love my Vita. Fantastic system. The screen totally destroy the 3DS. Too bad that Sony drop the support as soon as the sale slow down.

I wonder what would had happened if they had used SD card instead of that expensive card.

PhoenixUp2416d ago

I'll always find it hilarious how even when Sony seemingly abandoned their second handheld, Vita still outsold Wii U which was heavily supported by Nintendo.

Never underestimate the power that third party support can do for a platform.

freshslicepizza2416d ago

Which cleary shows why it's good to have a nice balance between the two. Sony knows this but some of their fans seem to only want to talk about exclusives.

Prince_TFK2416d ago

I thought it is all about exclusive here on n4g? So third party is only important as long as we don't talk about Xbox? Oh the amount of spin.

rainslacker2416d ago

Sony had 3rd party support, and still has it to this day on the Vita. IN fact, it's about all they have. They even had some pretty good 1st party support in the first few years.

But no one would give them credit for that support, and "vita has no games" was the constant mantra being spewed on every vita article until Sony finally dropped all its meaningful support for the system.

Games are what sells a system. Doesn't matter if they're multi-plat or exclusive. Sony had a lot of both, they just failed to get more of the really big exclusives like they got with the PSP. PSP didn't really take off until they started getting things like Metal Gear or GT. When they looked like they were finally going that path, they pretty much gave up on it, and it's kind of sad, because it's a great system.

chris2352416d ago

got the vita although it was dead on arrival. mobile gaming on dedicated machines is deadder than dead. oh wait, the switch is doing stellar, even rivaling the ps4, the xbox and the new xoxbox. ok, let's forget for one second about the absolute market dominator: when was the last time you saw someone playing his or her dedicated machine outside? I can't really remember. what I'm seeing everyday though is that everybody and their little daughter got smartphones when they are on their way to go somewhere.

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thatguyhayat2416d ago

Vita was and still amazing. Playing uncharted and gravity rush on it was simply epic. Such a shame Sony gave up on it

InTheLab2416d ago

Was...perhaps. still? Those games came out years ago. The vita is a terrible handheld that Sony pushed out with Insanely overpriced memory cards and a handful of games. It was amazing for maybe a year then reality set in.

Sony only cares about the home console. Vita, PSP, Move, and now the PSVR all rely on 3rd party support after Sony pushes them out the door.

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Top 5 Best Cancelled PS Vita Games of All Time

Are you a huge PS Vita fan? If the answer is yes, and you absolutely adore your Playstation Vita then this video is going to be tough for you. The VitaBoys count down the top 5 best PS Vita games that got cancelled.

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PS Vita 2 Will Be Better Than Switch

The PlayStation Vita is such an underrated handheld device that it's almost sickening on how it just disappeared in the hands of gamers. And even though the Vita vanished off the face of the earth, this does not mean that a next gen Vita isn't welcomed. If another iteration of the PS Vita does come to be, than this could spell disaster for the Nintendo Switch.

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naruga2583d ago (Edited 2583d ago )

i m calling it now...No Monster Hunter 5 No portable console for me .....if Vita 2 is to be released with games like 'portable"Uncharted&a mp;a mp;q uot; , portable "Horizon", portable Assasin Creed , is Hell NO ...portable consoles need proprietary games (ex Splatoon Monster Hunter, Gravity Rush ..games that can be played portbale) and not degraded versions of home console games (huge mistake from Sony to support Vita with Uncharted and Killzone (two mediocre appeal IPs that could only be enjoyed on pS3 because their graphical superiority) and most importantly Vita died because its main life source MHou series was stolen/went Nintendo exclusive ...

Kaneki-Ken2582d ago

Ignorance at it finest. Vita died because no one bought it and the games. The reason that no one bought it and it was because the pricey Memory Card.

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princejb1342582d ago

One of the many reasons. My reason was because I just don't game while traveling

fiveby92582d ago

I agree the pricey memory cards really diminished the sales of the Vita. I recently read that one of teh reasons Sony stuck with their pricey card rather than standard SD cards had something to do with concerns over piracy of games. One would have thought cheap standard cards would open up software sales on the PS Store. But oddly piracy was some major concern. Regardless, I'd like to see a new handheld from Sony.

The 10th Rider2582d ago (Edited 2582d ago )

But the 3DS floundered at first and had comparable sales, however it's now a success. I think the Vita was less salvageable due to the memory card costs. On top of that, Nintendo moved development to the 3DS, resulting in great 3DS support but poor Wii U support, and Sony moved development away from the Vita, resulting in poor Vita support but great PS4 support. On top of that, Vita was clearly the more powerful device, which is great, but games with a higher visual fidelity take more time and money to develop, making it far easier for Nintendo to turn around and get games out than it would be for Sony.

The big reason I think we won't see another Vita is because Sony would have to split their development teams between PS4 and their handheld, and it would be even more powerful leading to increased dev times and cost. It may be possible to make a handheld that plays the same games as a console (in 720p) if consoles go native 4K next gen, especially if it released a few years after the home console. Other than that I don't see Sony making another handheld that pushes power. (Maybe something different that's affordable, portable, versatile, and doesn't push power though.)

freshslicepizza2582d ago

sony is about tradition, they will come out with another handheld. they invest quite a bit into in-house studios and want more than just the ps4 to sell their ip's on.

nveenio2582d ago

I don't think Sony wants a new Vita. I think they want to get Playstation Now ready on all mobile devices. Then people can play whatever whenever and Sony doesn't have to worry about the hardware headaches or being first to market or anything like that.

Erik73572582d ago (Edited 2582d ago )

Nintendo had better games on the 3DS , hence why third party sucks. Who wanted the shitty assassin game on vita?

zb1ftw7772581d ago

By saying no one bought the vita and it's games, you essentially agreed with everything naruga wrote.

He literally listed the best games on the vita and then explained why no one bought them.

Funny how two people say the same thing, but word them differently and obtain different levels of likes.

toyzombie2581d ago

I kinda disagree.... They had to release the Vita at the correct price. We've already seen what happens when something is priced to high. Lets say they would have released the PS Vita at $350 with an internal 64GB of storage. People would have lost their minds because its $350. People just arent willing to spend a high dollar amount for a high quality portable device due to cell phones.

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conanlifts2582d ago (Edited 2582d ago )

Uncharted is a mediocre ip? Have you even played the game?

xMANB3ARP1G2581d ago (Edited 2581d ago )

the memory prices would have been forgotten and went down if monster hunter and some other games came to it the PSP memory card prices were way worse than the vitas at release. I never understand when people want the newest and greatest up till it comes time to pay. Sometimes new things cost money sucks but it is a fact of life. uncharted wasn't bad and resistance was sick but overall they misfired on this one would of loved one now built with ps4 in mind and a real mobile connection that can be used with your current plan and plan data limits for like a 10 buck a month fee better quality stick and hopefully sd card support but it would still need stuff like monster hunter Patapon LocoRoco wipeout and final fantasy games. unfortunately mobile games ruined handhelds to many ppl are ok with the garbage mobile games anymore and its a tough sale for a handheld and a handheld game now there will always be ppl like me who love portables but now with everyone owning a cell phone and every dev having at least 1 cell phone game of all various quality its hard to sell a buck cell phone game much less a full priced handheld game.

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EddieNX 2583d ago

There is no PS Vita 2 lol so good luck with that. PS Vita had way worse games than the WiiU and was a disaster outside of Japan.

Kaneki-Ken2582d ago

Good Luck with the Switch having no 3rd party support from Big Publishers after Skyrim releases. After Zelda hype dies off, no a lot of people going to buy a Switch for a port Mario Kart games and Indie, a sequel that doesn't feel like a sequel *cough* Splatoon 2*cough*. And the puchies game that doesn't seem nothing new and The only good exclusive is coming out in the fall, Mario.

EddieNX 2582d ago

I was just playing Splatoon 2 before on the global test fire and I can confirm now that its fantastic, an iteration sequel like COD but its gunna be worth owning a Switch for the amount of hours you can sink into its sensationaly addictive multiplayer. Mario kart is a perfect game 10/10 the only thing wrong was balloon battle and they've fixed it made it 1080p and portable you can play multiplayer anywhere, fantastic, can't wait.

Mario Odyssey is gunna be epic, so is Xenoblade chronicles 2 and Fire emblem. Fire emblem warriors and Arms will both be great, there's a TON of amazing indie games and other games already announced, god knows what they're going to show us at e3.

Honestly, Switch is turning into my favorite ever console. The portable nature of it is amazing. Im so excited about the future of Switch and I really feel sorry for people who are going to miss out on the games I've listed above. I have an XB1S and will be getting a Scorpio as well, so I won't be missing out on any third party games. But I'll also have the ultimate portable/ hybrid console with Nintendos truly amazing games

conanlifts2582d ago (Edited 2582d ago )

"The only good exclusive is coming out in the fall, Mario"

So you think xenoblade 2 is not a good exclusive?

Prince_TFK2581d ago (Edited 2581d ago )

Kaneki-Ken

You seem to forget that Nintendo has many unannounced games that is coming such as Pokemon star, monster hunter, fire emblems...on top of that E3 is coming and who know what Nintendo has up their sleeves.

But yeah...keep putting your fanboy google on and keep on hating Nintendo, while i keep on enjoying their games.

V0LT2581d ago

I think your crystal ball has been hacked. You couldn't be any more wrong.

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PhoenixUp2582d ago

Switch has Dragon Quest XI

The next potential PlayStation handheld will not.

That alone spells which will be more successful

Platformgamer2581d ago

Ps4 also has DQ XI and sony could do a cross-platform thing with a potential psvita2 so...

_-EDMIX-_2581d ago

I don't know how you came to such a strange conclusion.

The likeliness is statistically if Sony does release another PlayStation Portable it's going to be what the PlayStation 4 is in regards to strength or near it.

PhoenixUp2581d ago

If Sony couldn't get DQIX for PSP, I doubt they could get DQXI for a future handheld

Miguelitons2582d ago

There will be no PS Vita 2, that's just it!

InahimeHondaSengoku2582d ago

I love how you are always right. :-)

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