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Iwata explains why hardcore gamers will accept Wii U

Nintendo’s last console was more popular with the average consumer than it was with Nintendo’s hardcore faithful, and now Nintendo President Satoru Iwata is eager to explain why Wii U will rectify that.

Iwata’s responses came during a stockholders meeting when he was asked by an investor whether or not he believed the hardcore would accept the new console. Iwata was willing to concede some of the problems that kept Wii from catching on with the hardcore, and explained why that wouldn’t happen with Wii U.

Pikajew4678d ago (Edited 4678d ago )

hardcore gamers today means. people who like violent and HD games

People complain the Wii doesn't have 3rd party support but there are 3 other systems you can get for that

Reibooi4677d ago

No Hardcore gamer means people who want more then crap shovel ware which is 90% of what the Wii had the other 10% was 9% Nintendo games and 1% good 3rd party games.

The problem with the Wii was it's gimmick. It could not really play games in a more traditional way and it's lack of power and mass amounts of shovel ware made devs just stop trying as they would either have to dumb their game down to get it on the console or have it not sell if they made it with the Wii in mind(as was the case with games like Muramasa, Madworld and No More Hero's)

I don't think the Wii U is gonna be any better to tell you the truth. When most people walk away from a press conference thinking "Wtf did we just see" that isn't a good thing. Not to mention using the name Wii. If they are trying to appeal to Hardcore with this new console they need to distance themselves from the Wii name as much as possible or at least keep them both going with two very distinct groups of consumers in mind.

rexbolt4677d ago

no hard core means u only play fps and have the same games at 360

Morbius4204677d ago

there are many hardcore rpg players too.

Rainstorm814677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

So if your a nintendo fan and want core experiences you must buy a PS3/360/PC? Then Why buy a wii? everyone cant get multiple systems.

As a consumer, the product you buy should fit your needs.

And violent and HD doesnt equal core.....core games didnt start this gen with HD....

Edit

IMO a core gamer wants depth from thier games, a challenge yet fun something more than just a distraction. Casual gamers are looking for something that they CAN pick up and be able to play. For instance alot of casual gmers would be frustrated by a game like RDR or skyrim

Good thing is sometimes casual gamers become core gamers.....all is good for gaming but i prefer core experiences.

StbI9904677d ago (Edited 4677d ago )

When nintendo pull a god of war, or uncharted, or halo, or gear of war into their library, their console won't be leaving the kiddie field with the like of mario and kirby...

Do hardcore people wanna 4 consoles to suffix their needs? PC, ps3/4, xbox 360/1080...Wii u? i really don't think so, me nintendo and wouldnt approach a field you have been failing so much to get into lately.

But hey, if google is coming with another social network, why cant nintendo try for the third time get into the hardcore people's heart lol, to fail again.

@Maniacmayhem, no u dont see more potential than snes and u just sound like another nintendo fan in denial, nintendo aint good for hardcore, each of their generation shows u that, each of their consoles, show u that, they own exclusive show u that, they should stick to what function the most for them just like apple and their overpriced phones.

dedicatedtogamers4677d ago

This sounds vaguely like microsoft saying "The Core WILL love Kinect! We promise!"

Iwata, what's there to like about the Wii U? It's an overpriced tablet PC that will be launching with 6-month-old 3rd party multiplats. Heck, I'll buy the Vita and the 3DS long before I give a care about the Wii U.

maniacmayhem4677d ago

You dont know any of that. We should wait and see what is coming out for it. We have three to four companies that have announced exclusives for the WiiU. We should hold our judgment until then.

Reibooi4677d ago

The problem is said exclusives will most likley try to take advantage of every weird gimmick the Wii U has and thus the same problem the Wii created will be born anew and core gamers will basically just look the other way and ignore it.

They needed to bring a console to the game that was pure core and not weird gimmicks. They can have the Wii running at the same time for that if they wanted to appeal to both markets.

maniacmayhem4677d ago

I really dont thin that controller is as much a gimmick as the wii mote was. At least this controller has the standard buttons, triggers and analog sticks we find for 360/ps3. Plus an added feature of a touch screen.

If anything i can see way more potential with this machine than ive seen with any nintendo console since the snes days.

DrFUD4677d ago

I'm hardcore and can't wait.
It's fresh blood.
I know it's more powerful than either of the 2 others out now.
That's enough for me.
Well, that, and they aren't using motion controls.

beast242tru4677d ago

well actually they are using motion controlls the same ones that came with ur wii so far all reports saying onli one tablet controller per console and you dnt know yet how powerful it is if you do please show me where you got the news from

TenkoTAiLS4677d ago

6 years on from when the PS3 and Xbox 360 came out and you think it wont be more powerful? Your either kidding yourself or under the misguided reasoning that just because one of their previous consoles was under par to the current gen that all follow up ones will be. Either way it's rather premature to be giving anything other than assumptions, and an assumption that it's more powerful has more rational reasoning at the moment than Nintendo releasing another last gen console.

Fact is, no one knows squat beyond the controller, but for studios that shunned and were very vocal about the Wii being a rubbish machine like Epic, Id, Valve and the Crytec guys etc being all of a sudden being interested, I figure something's up, and I can't wait to find out what.

Ness-Psi4677d ago

well first off they need to give more info about the actual console then gamers will decide if they want to buy it up against the PS3/360.

jacksonmichael4677d ago

I'm not particularly hardcore, but... I have a beard... and I want it.

JsonHenry4677d ago

Same here. Except I am rocking a soul patch.

Ness-Psi4676d ago

just shaved mine off it was getting itchy!

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The Average Gamer: Hands-On Thoughts About the Wii U

Debbie Timmins from The Average Gamer tries out the Wii U controller at E3 2011 and then gets a bit carried away playing the Pirate demo, I mean the shield pose demo.

"Most of the technical demos were pretty dry, as you might expect. I have spared you the video footage of me failing to draw a 70° angle, so consider yourself lucky."

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charmer4658d ago

since when have the average gamer gotten their hands on the wiiu or anyone except for nintendo knows what its truly capable of.... the only thing i will say from looking at e3 nintendo has something special on their hands

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Mario Kart on Wii U - What Would It Be Like?

MMGN writes: Mario Kart will eventually make its way to Wii U – that’s a given. But what can we expect from Nintendo when it brings its popular kart racing series to its new console? How can the gameplay change? What new features can we expect? With the new Wii U controller there are a ton of exciting possibilities, so let’s get creative and take a look at a few ways Mario Kart can take advantage of the Wii U’s capabilities.

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matey4659d ago

Needs to have real life tracks taken from Nascar/F1/WRC/Fantasy with pit stops in GP mode imagine a pit stop with Wario and team changing ur tyres WOW full body deformation ect still the same Mariokart but alot faster and harder 250cc class with 16 players online WoW a nice garage where u pimp u Kart ect Mariokart would be amazing.

jacksonmichael4659d ago

Real life tracks taken from Nascar? But... I like to be able to turn right... And... I don't live in a trailer...

pcz4659d ago

i think i have grown out of it now. Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza.

if they want to appeal to the hardcore market they will need to make a new hardcore racer, as the hardcore crowd wont be at all impressed with mario kart.

even as a fun racer, mario kart has lost its way. only mario kart on the snes and n64 were any good, the rest were rubbish. the 3ds looks set to continue the rubbish tradition... driving under water? flying? rubbish!

ChickeyCantor4659d ago

"Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza. "

I rather have F-zero thank your very much.
GT and Forza are boring. Of course thats just my opinion. I rather see them do a Burnout if F-zero wasn't their franchise.

pcz4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

''I rather have F-zero thank your very much. ''

Yeah, f-zero has always been a great franchise, but its still a niche title (futuristic racer.) sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. ie the f zero experience isnt totally unique. sonys answer to mario kart is mod racers (or crash bandicoot racing lol) But what is nintendos answer to gran tourismo?

wave race and 1080 snowboarding were great because they were decent attempts at a serious racing experience, they need to bring those games back for wiiu. they need to bring a 'real car racing' experience to wiiu. Not just mario kart.

what im talking about is an actual 'hardcore' driving experience, like gran tourismo/forza. Nintendo don't have that and never really have.

If nintendo are serious about winning hearts and minds of so called hardcore gamers, they will need that 'serious driving' title. The hardcore crowd will expect it. Its a fact hard core driving titles like gt and forza are system sellers on their respective consoles, so if nintendo wants to win, it needs one. otherwise those gamers will simply stick with sony/microsoft.

are we really supposed to believe players who love the sophistication of gran tourismo, and slickness of forza, are going to be thrilled with mario kart, or even f zero? come on, get real.

''GT and Forza are boring. ''

thats your opinion, fair enough, but its not the wider opinion as sales figures show. These simulation racers are amongst the most highly anticipated games on those so called hardcore systems. People obviously enjoy them, and they have almost universal critical acclaim.

Nintendo doesn't offer an alternative to the 'niche racing title.' so we dont have any choice but to play mario kart or f zero. What if i want to play a simulation racer? simple- i cant. this is the problem.

Nintendo have realised its lack of fps games and third person action franchises has been a weakness, but it also needs to address this driving game problem, or else people are going to get their fix elsewhere.

Its the same with the fighting genre, instead of getting us street fighter, tekken, mortal kombat etc, they have given us smash bros and punchout. fine, those games are fun, but we need those popular franchises. nintendo realise this and have announced street fighter v tekken for wiiu.

we NEED a serious driving game. mario kart just isnt cutting it anymore.

ChickeyCantor4659d ago

" sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. "

Absolutely not.
Maybe as futuristic racers, but in gameplay F-zero murders wipeout.

I understand your point, but honestly, I just can't see nintendo make a realistic racer.
F-zero GX was hard, and they should continue in that trend. Its an amazing racer.

Samus HD4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

they need to make it more hardcore

On Mario Kart Wii
NGamer UK was disappointed that Battle mode can now only be played in teams; no free-for-all option is offered which removes the 'last man standing' element of previous Mario Kart Battle modes - They are right

GameTrailers and IGN also commented that it is easy to fall from first place to last by being continuously attacked by several weapons, many of which are unavoidable, leading to a certain amount of luck in racing. This makes it more accessible for beginners, but can be extremely discouraging for skilled players.[24][25] GameSpot also noted that "nostalgia doesn't save most of the classic courses from being boring".[7] - right too

they need to change that (more focusing on GAMEPLAY)

charmer4659d ago

i expect all the nintendo games in hd to be something special especially the first time around