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It’s Really Hard To Like Kinect These Days...

Kinect is really hard to like these days.

With little to no core support and no decent upcoming games, Microsoft's once amazing looking motion controller is quickly becoming a glorified paper weight for many Gamers.

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pat_11_54696d ago

I genuinely think Kinect is a great device... but seriously put some good games on it already.

SKUD4696d ago

Kinect Disneyland Adventures inbound. Are they doing it rite?

darthv724696d ago

you should state that they need good games that appeal to you. Remember we are all not alike and have different tastes. It is really a matter of choice.

Do I think the games on kinect are good? Cant say as I dont have kinect yet.

Will there be games that appeal to people? Sure there will.

Will they appeal to you? Only you can be the judge of that.

Potentiality almost guarantees there will be something for everyone.

Perjoss4695d ago

I have no problem liking my Kinect, I know its quite hard for some to believe, but some people actually like waving their arms around :)

news4geeks4696d ago

It has great games like sesame street, disneyland and on the rails classics to come...

If you don't like those games then kinect isn't your thing.

fr0sty4696d ago

charlie sheen loves his kinect. both of them are on rails constantly.

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saladthieves4696d ago (Edited 4695d ago )

Microsoft sold millions of this device. It's out there and I have a feeling that the dedicated hardcore who bought it a launch are sort of disappointed due to the lack of games catered towards them. From the looks of E3, I can say that little kids will have a blast time with Kinect from now towards 2012.

They are clearly marketing it towards the casuals; and for that fact if you don't like Kinect, simply don't buy it. Okay, but what about those hardcore gamers who also bought it? Where are their games Microsoft? It seems that Microsoft doesn't really know what to do with Kinect. The hype of controller-less gaming is what sold it. It sounds so awesome and futuristic. Somehow it's not working right.

They already have a large install base, now what the hell is stopping them from making real games? Do they think that whatever they are making right now (Kinect fun labs, Disneyland Adventures) will satisfy people?

Sony probably had it right about buttons being important. If you take a core game and replace it entirely with Kinect controls, chances are that it will terribly suck. There would be lag issues and the most important of all - accuracy. They (Microsoft) foresaw this so they went the route that Sony took with the Move - implement Kinect in the core games as an optional playstyle.

The same principle might however not always apply to Sony. They implemented the Move in Killzone 3 and from what I've heard, people with the Move SharpShooter are owning those people with the standard DualShock 3 controller!

Point is Microsoft is just chasing a boat Nintendo already rode. I'm curious as to where they are sailing the Kinect ship, but currently it looks like they have no course set.

Redgehammer4695d ago

I agree. I just got through watching my son play Child of Eden, and he is having a blast. I wish I could use Kinect to play COE, the controller is fine, but doesn't seem to carry the same fun or immersion quotient as Kinect. It is a great device, that I feel, is constantly going to improve.

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xhedleyx4696d ago

I agree I guess but do you honestly think Kinect can support these deep experiences you so desperately want? How the hell do you make a game like Mass Effect 3 without a controller...

You can't

Godmars2904696d ago (Edited 4696d ago )

More to the point how do you make an engaging Kinect title that also uses a standard controller?

Still can't believe that Bioware hasn't been seriously called on the Kinect only voice command option.

Edit:
Thing is in that regard Binary Domain will have voice commands via headsets. If that game actually delivers - we are talking about Sega after all - how will that not show up Bioware?

xhedleyx4696d ago

I think it's a decent use of Kinect's technology. Maybe not ideal but it's better than having it forced into the game.

AtomicGerbil4696d ago

Voice command has been done for years, it's not unique to Kinect.

If Bioware wanted to use voice command, it wouldn't be exclusive to Xbox 360, all you need is a voice input device all the rest is software driven. Besides, PS Eye has a 4 microphone array so it could easily be done on PS3, with the Eye or a headset. Same goes for PC with any device with a microphone you could plug in, Usb or mic/line in.

darthv724695d ago

we been through this god. We know it can be done but the point is it is being done only for the 360 version.

Why is that so hard to wrap around? For whatever reason. Be it money or exclusivity or whatever....kinect voice in mass effect 3 exists. I have said this before.

If you are going to release something then you need to find the angle in which to market it and do your best to make it your own.

Just because they can doesnt mean they will. It is no different than exclusive content in games these days. If you want to talk to the tv while playing this game....read aloud the dialog at the bottom of the screen when making your choice.

Redgehammer4695d ago

Kinect's audio solutions are much more complicated than I thought, and really are an achievement in engineering. Those of you that believe that a headset is comparable to the Kinect sensor are misguided. If any are interested in how the audio aspects of Kinect came about , I suggest this article.
http://research.microsoft.c...

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Why o why4696d ago (Edited 4696d ago )

I still dont believe people really think kinect can really offer deep gameplay mechanics. People would enjoy it more if they just lowered their expectations, kinda like what my misses has to do:(

The sony advert he refers to, although tongue in cheek is true. Without inputs its limited. Proof is how simple all the games that are out now and the fact that ms is pushing for kinect intergration into core games NOT kinect versions of these games apart from that fable and we all saw how that panned out. Let it be. Its great tech but very limited

xhedleyx4696d ago

I tend to agree I guess. It's sort of a pipe dream of mine though to have an awesome Kinect game that's totally fun and engrossing.

Redempteur4696d ago

fable with kinect is horrible

going from a action rpg ( with bugs ) to a onr ail shooter ..is hardly an improvement

Redgehammer4695d ago

I am curious as to what a "deep gameplay mechanic" is?
"Its great tech but very limited" people said the same thing about the cd-rom, and the personal computer in the early 80's, and we see how that has turned out. I believe that the only limit to Kinect is the same limit that all technology has, and that is the imaginations of those pushing the technology forward. Moreover, I would be surprised if the tech within Kinect, does not achieve some level of ubiquity in the upcoming years.
As far as the games go, I was excited for ME3 way before Kinect, but now I have something else to look forward to, on top of the awesomness that I already anticipated.

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btk4696d ago

As we expected....
The hype died off - and now they can see the emperor is not as well-dressed as the hype suggested.

malamdra4696d ago

there was never any hype among core gamers, because hype is generated by games and not hardware itself

mcgrawgamer4696d ago

Why o why hit the nail on the head in my opinion. Kinect won't be able to replace the core gaming experience. Only add on it; for or better or for worse that would depend on the gamer. Personally the only games that have justified my kinect purchase were sonic riders and the more recent child of eden. Other than that I don't get much enjoyment out of it. My kids and wife however eat it up.

iistuii4696d ago

My wife & kids also eat it up, that's the type of audience it was made for. As for so called hardcore games, they are starting to add support in the future games like Ghost Recon, Forza 4, but personnaly I'd prefer if they kept the games separate like now. Anyone else think a game like Heavy Rain could work on Kinect ?. I think it'll be cool to have a detective type of game on it and having finished Heavy Rain, that type of game could work on Kinect...

wollie4695d ago

thats a really awesome idea about a heavy rain type game with kinect. I agree that it is possible to make a really great game using solely kinect but the sad thing is no one is doing it. And after MS's e3 it looks like there aren't any plans to do it.

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15 Best Ancient Rome Games of All Time

From underrated Xbox One launch titles to absolute emperors of the strategy genre, history heads will love these games based around Ancient Rome.

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Leeroyw369d ago (Edited 369d ago )

There's fifteen ancient Rome games?

LG_Fox_Brazil369d ago

Shadow of Rome was so freaking good

Sashamaz368d ago

I'm still waiting for the sequel.

HyperMoused368d ago

Ryse was awesome, i have no idea why it wasnt recieved well and why we havnt seen another, Rome conquered so much, you could take the action anywhere, and it looked great when xbox one came out, now would be even better.

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Ryse: Son of Rome Deserves a Second Shot

Ryse: Son of Rome was an Xbox One launch title that has been left to collect dust, but Crytek should set aside Crysis and give Ryse another shot.

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AngainorG7X624d ago

It was a great game, it had issues but it can only go up from here.

crazyCoconuts623d ago

It was just ok. Looked really good for an Xbox game though

Snookies12623d ago

"for an Xbox game"

Way to subtly throw shade there. It looked amazing compared to any game at the time it was released.

Never played it myself though, wasn't really interested in it personally. Plus it came at a time when I didn't own an Xbox console. But it was at least different than the usual copy/paste games we get. So I hope it gets another chance sometime soon.

Crows90623d ago

It was a crytek game though

1nsomniac623d ago (Edited 623d ago )

It was a stunning game on all basis. One of the standout games for Xbox as a whole. I ended up buying on pc as well… and yes nothing looked better than it in PC at the time either. Nothing just ok about it, definitely needs a sequel.

fr0sty623d ago

@snookies12, don't pretend like the Xbox One didn't struggle with being gimpled by its tiny pool of ESRAM as a frame buffer. It was significantly weaker than the PS4.

crazyCoconuts623d ago

Metacritic 60, user score 6.4. I'm not alone in putting it into the "ok" category...

VenomCarnage89623d ago

@snookies
Haven't played it but at least you know enough to defend Xbox over it. The game did look good, for an Xbox game. That's not some "subtle shade," it's full on reality.
I remember it being nearly the only graphically decent game on the Xbone for like the first two years after launch, and graphics were that games strength

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CrimsonWing69623d ago

I really enjoyed it. Bought it at launch even.

ManMarmalade623d ago (Edited 623d ago )

The qte's were disappointing though. God of war was doing it back in the ps2 days. As gorgeous as the game was, the gameplay needed to be updated.

annoyedgamer624d ago

I really liked the original Ryse but Crytek doesn't have the funds. The mismanaged their properties and let EA raid them with Crysis for the duration of their relationship. Right now they are working on Crysis 4, I doubt they can spare resources to work on a Ryse sequel.

gamer7804623d ago

It would have to be funded by MS, I really liked Ryse sure it got repetitive but the setting visuals and story were good

moriarty1889623d ago

MS should have funded a sequel to Ryse and Sunset OD. Two good franchises they definitely needed last gen.

annoyedgamer623d ago

MS is too busy trying to become the next EA, Ryse wont be on their list of titles to finance unless it gets a hipster makeover with lootboxes.

darthv72623d ago (Edited 623d ago )

I recently bought it for the steamdeck and have to say... 60fps is a game changer. I really wished MS had gotten a one x patch or series boost mode option but sadly, nope. Other games that definitely deserve a second chance (esp on steamdeck/pc) are quantum break and sunset overdrive. Both deserved 60fps support on one x / series but you have to go to PC for that.

Rumor has it Crytek had plans for a Ryse 2 but due to the low turnout for XB (at the time) it was shelved. They really should give this another shot. i dont care if its multiplat on PS and XB and PC and Switch... just so long as part 2 gets made.

babadivad623d ago

The game is automatically boosted on Series X

darthv72623d ago

sorry... but it's not. It still runs at the same fps the XBO did.

lelo2play623d ago

Game was good enough, not great.
Graphically it was top notch. Still holds well till this day.

Crows90623d ago

It only needed more enemy variety and few more movesets or weapons to use. That would have made the experience tons better.

MadLad623d ago

It was a good game.
Only time I saw quick time events actually make me feel engaged.

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Here are the new Xbox Game Pass Quests for August 2022

Xbox Game Pass Quests recently reset for the month of August. So if you try to collect as many Microsoft Rewards points as possible, there's a new set available now.

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anast629d ago (Edited 629d ago )

This is not what I would call value for money spent. They give you quests in liveservice games to get you "re-engaged" with the monetization schemes or to get you hooked or so you at least spend some extra on skins and loot boxes. Then they dole out paltry points after you have already paid extra for whichever liveservice within a liveservice that you are already paying for. My worry is people can't actually be that stupid to fall for this, can they?

littletad629d ago

Absolutely nothing in this comment makes sense. At all.

anast628d ago (Edited 628d ago )

How does it not make sense? O thy god of reason, shine some evidence upon us. Ryse of Rome, ESO,and AC: Origins are all live service games, between them you can get 275 points. Liveservice games are made to keep people spending. Therefore, Gamepass is a live service and the points are for playing live service games.

It is not my problem that this does not make sense to you, it is absolutely your problem. I mean it is all your problem.

Julion0715628d ago (Edited 628d ago )

Hate Xbox but comments in every Xbox article 😂 without making sense smh

anast628d ago

Bring the evidence and then your emoji might make sense.