Hacking Group: "It's The Beginning Of The End For Sony", Promises More Hacks Soon

LulzSec, which had previouslyhacked Sony BMG’s Japanese website (according to Forbes) has promised more attacks against Sony and claimed that this is the beginning of the end for Sony.

[Kran]

In other words, theyre saying:

"We're doing to be selfish d**ks and ruin the gaming experience for millions of PSN users. We dont give a damn about any of you. If you wanted a good online service, you should have got a 360. Haha. Nah that'll be hacked too before long. Hacking the PSN is so fun, listing to millions of people cry. Hackers rule because we have more freedom."

Seriously though. Why? WHERE IS THE FUN IN RUINING EXPERIENCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE? If i went and hacked their future weddings (if thats possible), i bet they wouldnt be pleased.

[Hands Up For Games]

You actually think any of these hackers get laid?!?!?!

Nevermind getting married ;-)

OT, I think Sony know they dropped the ball, PSN, when its up and running properly will be harder to get into than Fort Knox!

[tehpees3]

it will take more than threats and hacking to bring down Sony. I guess these hackers have nothing better to do

[DeadIIIRed]

They marry each other. That's why they live in California.

[Ninjamonkey82]

hackers are pissed of girls that can't get there boyfriends away from the Tv.

[GMWPS3]

Are they (Hackers) serious!?!? I mean come on now. What the hell is up with them. This looks more and more like a personal vendetta. Either someone Sony fired, or from a competing company. It's just getting so ridiculous that it isn't funny. Is Sony so bad that they want to bring it down. If the hackers want to do something useful, how about helping people find jobs, or helping fight organized crime, etc. I mean really is Sony what is wrong with the world. Microsft has had it easy. I'd have thought having RROD or even to pay for Live would get hackers up in arms. I guess those are all acceptable in their books.

[Storm23]

Ok...we all hate hackers...they are ridiculously stupid *ssholes. I agree. But come on guys. Because they are ridiculously stupid *ssholes...you insult gay people by comparing hackers to them? Really?

Hackers are awful people. Gay people are not.

Grow up. It's 2011.

[Joe2911]

Sony are getting attacked left right and center, because they went to a fight against hackers. And now they and their consumers (me being one) are getting fucked.

I'm pretty sure hackers will be able to crack Sony's new system, no system is impenetrable.

@Storm, well said + bubbles.

[Gen0ne]

@storm23: Bubbles my friend. I dig your style. +1

[FunAndGun]

Mr Patriot

I hear you're a HUGE hacker.

call me!

[Dee_91]

Haha what a bunch of dumbasses
I love the arrogance from these hackers
Its gonna be so funny when they get caught

[GrandTheftZamboni]

These mofos are gonna give a reason to legal systems to tighten the control of the Internet. Imagine countries harbouring cyber terrorists being cut off from the Internet for the starters.

[zag]

Sony would be pretty well locked up by now.

Hacking now would just mean everything you do you'd get logged.

People will be found if not already.

[Focker420]

I'm getting really sick of this bullsh*t. I just can't understand the motivation to destroy something that millions of people enjoy. It just baffles me that instead of doing something productive they spend their time screwing over other people that are just trying to have a little fun.

[sikbeta]

I thought this crap was over, I mean what is the freaking point of ruining something good for everyone else? they don't have anything better and or constructive to do with their lives? just stop already!

[kneon]

If they ever actually succeeded in inflicting long lasting damage to a company the size of Sony then they will have gotten the attention of governments the world over.

That could ultimately lead to the end of the anonymous internet. Every ISP could require you to log in before you could access anything. Governments could then start issuing smart cards and require 2 or 3 factor authentication before you could access anything.

What would the hackers do then? They'd probably curl up into a ball and die as their only source of self worth would be all but gone.

[nveenio]

They may be able to hack Sony's new system, but I can guarantee they won't be able to do it anonymously. I'm sure Sony has plans to shut down any connections it can't validate as authentic. And the connections it does take will be traced like the pages of a nudie mag.

[jeseth]

These kids/losers/grown men should get curb stomped, American History X style.

[AliTheBrit420]

Yes I'm sure plenty get laid, assuming hackers never get laid is about as relevant as assuming gamers who spend way too much time on a website talking about games dont get laid....

[Dee_91]

@ everyone asking why would they ruin the fun for everyone else
Its simple .. THEY DONT CARE
So you add not caring about people and the anger they got towards Sony innocent people will suffer alot ..

[MintBerryCrunch]

say good bye to free internet ladies and gentlemen, if this isnt an argument for corporations to push a bill through US Congress to limit what we can do with our internet connections, then i dont know what is...the problem is that these hackers are hard to find, we are the collateral damage...its really pathetic seeing this pissing contest unfold between these jackasses...all because they need to overcompensate for their small penises

[MmaFan-Qc]

"It's The Beginning Of The End For Sony", Promises More Hacks Soon......

shallow statement is shallow

[xabmol]

The PSN is just collateral damage in the war against corporations.

Not saying that I agree with the tactics, but this sort of thing will continue and spread to other corps in the coming years.

$0.02...

[badz149]

F*** YOU HACKERS! Oh, that's 3 words! GO TO HELL SCUM! And that's 4!

[rjdofu]

If they go any further than this ( i.e. actual attempt to bring down Son again), i'm sure quite a few millions people will hunt their necks.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Like holy shit are you guys done saying shit about hackers?

Hackers aren't bad people. They just mess around with electronics and optimize them and do whatever else they want for them.

These people that want to "bring about the end of sony" are completely different people. Chill out.

[zag]

They more people these hackers piss off the larger the group becomes when you piss off a large enough group they can turn on you.

Look at Anonymous's own IRC servers they all got shut down simply using the very same thing they do to other people's websites.

If a million separate people simply logged into their IRC servers and always did stuff they would have to shut them down.

If another group comes in the group bcomes larger and you simply keep the anonymous servers shut down.

Anonymous will whinge and complain but who cares right because it's only about the lulz after all and really should love it.

[jjohan35]

I don't understand why these hackers don't do something more useful like take down the intelligence network or financial system of oppressive governments or something.

Get a life dude.

[Blackdeath_663]

as hackers they should know the solid rule for hacking: dont get too greedy or youll get caught. many bank hackers only get caught because they hacked a second time. if they hack again its not gonna be good for anyone.

[Fat Bastard]

Holy shit, this site is more fucking liberal than obama's fucking house. Grow a pair and stop bitching about the word faggot

[Horny Melon]

Yeah well the same could be said about you........how much thinking do you do about the kids/people working and dying in the rare metal miness or thedeplorable working conditions in factories that make all the neat technologies you own?

[GodofSackboy]

You have an awesome name

[User-Name]

Well said!

[zgoldenlionz]

lol i hope your being sarcastic. if not its still a bit funny.

[BubbleSniper]

what are YOU doing to prevent that from happening, "Horny Melon" ?

Nothing? Ok.

[timzone]

If we stopped buying those rare metals etc then what would happen to those societies? Without massive amounts of aid(Trillions of $$) that is unfortunately the only way all those nations develop. Kind of sucks but that is evolution. They all work in those factories because either they or their parents know this.

[JellyJelly]

I'm quitting my job and moving to Libya to teach orphans how to read and write, work as a human shield and overthrow evil tobacco companies. Right after I finish L.A Noir.

[CardboardGun]

Jeez guys.. Honestly.. When they have such a powerful network of individuals with an amazing understanding of computer technology, coding and networks, a true gift in more than a few instances - how about using just that energy towards something useful? If they could actually focus it towards taking down ACTUAL bad guys, it would be really interesting to see the results. And don't come draggin with the silly old "I should quit my dayjob"-BS. These people are gifted, and have already shown their potential, though not towards something of actual interest/constructive. Ball is in your court hackers. Give it a spin.

[AtomicGerbil]

@Horny Melon
While it is terrible, would you prefer they didn't have jobs?

[ravinash]

@ CardboardGun

Gifted, I don't think so.
Most of the information on how to do this can be found on the internet.
Most of these people are just youngsters that tow the line and think their clever for it.
Think about it. Most people when they get past a certain age will start to focus on what’s important in life like career, family or a purpose.
How many of them think that purpose would be hacking into a gaming system.

A lot of these hackers seem to come and go, but I never see any of them turn up years later with something to change the world for the better.

[UnbiasedGamer]

Oh thanks hackers for ruining the fun of millions you dirtbags.

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

A hacker isnt what a hacker once was.

[--------]

Hacking used to mean "not being afraid to break something in order to make it better"

Now it's just "not being afraid to break something in order to ruin the fun of millions"

Shame.

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

damn right

[MarkusMcNugen]

http://www.focus.com/fyi/it...

If some of you actually wanted to learn more about hackers instead of just calling every one a bad person, read the above link. Its a top 10 of some of the more famous hackers. Notice how theirs two lists, White Hats, and Black Hats.

Without the white hat hackers, the black hats would take the internet and hack all the corporations. Do some research before you all start shouting off they arent what they use to be, or that all hackers are stupid evil little teenagers. Its a big business that makes lots of money.

Have non of you heard of DEF CON?
http://www.defcon.org/

@Jmorgan
Its almost always been this way. All technology has always gone both ways. It can be used for good, or evil.

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

a hacker was a hacker and a cracker was a cracker. polly

[Allelujah00]

Can somebody explain to me why Sony can't just track this guys twitter account arrest the man behind him through the CIA or FBI and be done with it? Or just track the users on Anonymous website and be done with it? Cyber terrorism is a federal offense and if my memory serves right it's a 10 year offense too depending on the severity they could earn up to 15 right?

It seems like the easiest option but it hasn't been done can somebody with better knowledge of this explain this to me.

Thanks

[thor]

When you use the internet there is no DNA fingerprint, no CCTV footage, nothing to link you to the crime. Every computer has an IP address, yes, and in theory if every node on the internet kept a record of every packet sent and received and to where, you could track every hack back to an individual computer. (Of course this doesn't happen, there are numerous proxy sites and VPNs which can encrypt traffic and do not record any data).

But even if you could track a hack down to an individual computer, there is nothing to tie it to an individual in general. It could be a computer in a library or internet cafe (the payphones of the digital age). E-mail addresses used to register accounts will be free ones created with false info.

The anonymity of the internet is a huge problem because our law enforcement and jusice frameworks cannot deal with it easily. Spam is still a huge problem, scam websites a huge problem, hacking a huge problem. And as soon as one hacker makes himself known, he's targeted, and then the criminals strike back anonymously. It is completely unclear to me how we can stop this whilst retaining net neutrality.

[IcarusOne]

My favorite part of the article: "GamingBolt.com strongly recommends its users to support Sony during these tough times for the company."

As if Sony needs your support. This isn't a family member in the hospital. It's a corporation that would hang all of us out to dry if the profits were right.

[jerethdagryphon]

go away hackers they seem to think that sony will just give up a multi billion dollar company CANT thell continue to try and alter things

its a stupid pointless thing we need hackers to hack the hackers

[User-Name]

Other people are just collateral damage. Just like innocent civilians getting killed in American bombing and poisoned by depleted uranium for decades after America bombs them in order to "bring freedom".

Now hackers are "bringing freedom" to the digital world, fighting companies who sue smart kids. There are better ways to fight piracy. Just like Gaddafi could find a better way to fight protesters.

Violence breeds violence.

[Legion]

@Petro

Personal attacks are against forum policy.

[Petro]

@User-Name
I still cant decide if your being sarcastic or not.

Anyway only way to fight against company who's policies you don't agree with or just don't like their products, is to not buy their products!

[metsgaming]

there is a very special level of hell for hackers.

[Daver]

I give them only few days if they decide to hack the PSN again.. They will get caught by FBI..
The only thing that it will do is that Sony will be force to make the service a paid service and all because of those dumba**

[alex3369]

well the people who hacked the psn never got caught so i would put my money against sony and a private investigation firm.

[Daver]

yea but theres more security now and FBI is probably still investigating it

[ElementX]

Hack a wedding? LOL, the comments people come up with.

[finbars75]

All I have to say what a bunch of lowlife cowards.all they know how to do is sit behind a computer desk in there parents basement at the age of 40 because they will never be accepted i'n public because of shit like this.your only ruining your life by doing this not ours.hack i'n all they want and see what consequences are to follow douche bags.

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

These bastards need to be hunted down, period, end of story. I don't give a damn what issues they have with Sony but don't drag gamers into this sh*t. That's what pisses me off the most.

B-B-But they fightin' for our right!

Fighting for rights my ***. They're criminals.

[MagicGamer]

Everyone was warned by a article that was posted here on N4G a couple of days ago but was moved to the other boiler room site.

http://techspy.com/news/770...

Now it's coming out.

[MagicGamer]

They are going to keep at Sony just for the prize of saying We got Sony. Idiots will get caught this time.

[kikizoo]

They have tons of really huge bastards over the world to piss off, but no, the "just cause" is the evil sony, who entertain millions of gamers since decades...

what a bunch of donkeys.

[firetaw]

you havnt been bullied in high school at all then i take it. some people just like to take advantage of others or takes pleasure just by making others suffer. although most nerds bully for pay back for being bullied so there sense of justices is warped or corrupted.
there is no hacker in the world that has learned the lesson " Live and Let Live"

[lil Titan]

i hate them...that is all

[frostyhat123]

I feel bad for the Ps3 guys! Myself as a 360 gamer is wondering what good will come from hacking PSN again.

[AuToFiRE]

like come on, what has sony done? they create reliable hardware across many fields and great games to go with the ps3. if the attacks should be against anyone it should be oil companies, governments, microsoft and apple even. look at microsoft for instnace, you are all getting shafted by them, they cant even create software

[Legion]

Really??? You just tried to make a point that Sony shouldn't be hacked but Microsoft should??? That's like saying you don't believe in the death penalty and that the Warden should instead be put to death. Or you feel that abortion is a sin so we should kill all abortion doctors.

Your thinking is just wrong.

[derek]

I wouldn't worry about it, any "group" foolish enough to brag about what constitutes committing a crime will eventually screw up. The first hack of the psn got the attention of international crime fighting agencies like the fbi who all have a vested interest in locating wherever these attacks are originating from. Ensuring the PSN is secure and that those would be hackers are found out isnot a Sony only venture there are other parties involved now.

[Rashonality]

they are terrorising millions of people
there for they're terrorist
so they deserve a one way ticket to guantanamo bay
^^

[blahblah]

/*sorry, couldn't resist*/

really? hahaha. is depriving someone of online gaming some new age mass torchering method?

just what kind of suffering does depraving someone of online game entail? nausea? suicide? mental illness?

[ps3destroyer]

Why do they do that?I mean if Sony was holy saints from the start why do they do all those things?Maybe it was Sony's fault to get Geohot to prison since even if they did piracy is still at large.

[Christopher]

Civil suits do not result in any jail time.

[Andronix]

If a major hack has happened then write about it.
But if it hasn't happened and they are getting loads of coverage it will inspire them so they get their name out there.

[OmegaSlayer]

This hackers has not yet understood that in the World there are wars, genocides, people addicted, murdered kids...and they care about having stuff for free calling it freedom.

[hakis86]

F U hacker bastards! Please somebody stop them somehow!!!

[blahblah]

well, being white hat hacker all my life and pissed because sony removed otheros (i simply retaliate peacefully with not buying any sony product)... i still can't understand these hackers. hacking once... ok, hacking twice... yea, you showed them who pwns. but doing it repeatedly makes absolutely no sense at all. kinda like beating the sh*t out of paraplegic... 15 times in a row.

although, i have to admit that reading comments here throwing hellfire on my profession almost makes me wanna hack sony just to get back at insulting morons.

[zoks310]

The problem here is that the media and websites are giving these hackers too much attention, and much like terrorists and religious bigots hackers live for the attention that's why they do what they do.

Hackers live for the notoriety, websites needs to adopt a policy that makes it bannable to post any information about hackers or hacks and the hackers will evaporate in the video game scene.
Until this is done gamers will have to live in fear and anger about the reality that malicious people like hackers bring.

[likedamaster]

What a slap in the face for Sony.

Not only are they going public, but they're telling everyone exactly what they're going to do and laughing in their faces about it. smh

I just hope the store goes up long enough to snatch a game or two before "the end".

[Dart89]

Wait don't hackers always use the same route for hacking??

Edit:@Baba i'll go hack their moms:D.

[Max_Dissatisfaction]

Oooooooooh!!! Internet tough guy!!
Lol its the same circle over and over again. Hackers make threats against SONY, the SONY squad gather up and
1. Call the hackers kids/virgins/grown men in basements
2. Threaten that if they ever run into one of these hackers they'd beat up/kill/mame said hackers
3. FBI!!! Ooooooooh!! FBI gonna getcha and you'll be raped in jail!/don't drop the soap! -still waiting on that to happen on from the FIRST hack, remember PS Jailbreak? Yeah.
4. Denial, denial denial. SONY's security is too strong now, it is really unhackable.
And then...hackers succeed in doing exactly what they threatened which leads to the following.
1. Denial denial denial. Its not as bad as it seems, this happens all the time, I don't need online anyway.
Repeat 1, 2 and 3

[MaxXAttaxX]

No one ever seriously claimed #4.

No need to be so sensitive about this subject. You a hacker?

[Drac]

Probably not a hacker just another SONY hater.

[pixelsword]

Gee Max, you think you're ruffling feathers but really, you kinda look sad.

[firetaw]

i would have taken you seriously if you actually knew how to count from 1 to 5

[pixelsword]

@firetaw:

Max sez in his mind...

"Derp".

lol

[frostyhat123]

This is right on! But still you need to learn how to spell1

[MaxXAttaxX]

1.
2.
3.
4.
1.?

I think someone needs to take lessons from Count von Count
http://www.sesamestreet.org...

[Misterhbk]

Not this stuff again. Cant hackers just move on already? This is getting old and tired. There are much worse things happening in the world that you guys could be "rising up against." This is hurting millions of consumers but the hackers obviously don't care.

[soundslike]

no shit.

Why can't they go hack an oppressive third world dictator, or hack Rush Limbaugh's show to repeat on air "I LOVE BIG BLACK ____ I LOVE BIG BLACK ____"

then they would earn my respect.

[solidjun5]

LMAO!! +1
Hilarious

[zgoldenlionz]

Those are much better ideas. lol

[pixelsword]

@ soundslike

That won't happen because everyone already knows Limbaugh loves big black _____

[rabidpancakeburglar]

I doubt they'll make much progress if they try

[Baba1906]

idiots go hack your mothers....

[KingSlayer]

Watch out Sony's Ukraine site is next!!!

[winlonghorn]

I am not sure how you know that. Are you one of the hackers? If you are, I have some choice words for you! If not, explain how you would know the next target! ;)

[KingSlayer]

Just a joke. Greece's BMG site, Canada's Ericsson site, the Taiwan site...I just assumed Turkey or the Ukraine would be next as the before mentioned hacks were devastating! ;)

[LightSamus]

Dear hackers, sod off and get a life.

Yours, entire PSN userbase across the world.

[EliteDave93]

Im sure Sony have installed something that from now on they will see where the hacks come from so they will be able to track them down.

[Legion]

I am not sure if you are just the most optomistic person in the world or the most clueless?

Not a personal attack... I really am wondering.

[cliffbo]

why is the PS3 so important that no other console that gets hacked ever gets mentioned? Sony must have done something right for the world to be focused on them

[LightSamus]

Let's see. There are three major consoles: PS3, 360, Wii.

360 doesn't get hacked.
Wii doesn't get hacked.
PS3 does.

What else will they talk about? It's just news that I wish they'd shut up about.

[r1sh12]

The xbox and Wii have both been hacked..what are you talking about

[LightSamus]

By hacked, I mean in a way that hinders us players. If 360 and Wii get hacked to let people download games, I don't condone it but at the same time, it doesn't affect me. Whereas PS3 being hacked and the PSN going down stops me from doing what I enjoy.

Hacking isn't particularly useful in any shape but the PSN hack in the worst and no one can deny that.

[MisterAV]

wii dosn't have even a real network.... remember that nintendo is not capable of securing any system. Wii had the same vulnerabilities of gamecube at launch...

[User-Name]

SURPRISE! The World doesn't revolve around you!

So, no one cares that you don't get to play your games, aawwwwww how sad :(

Seriously, do you really think that "you doing what you enjoy" is more important than "fighting against giant corporations that sue young talented kids with a much greater IQ than yours" ?

[madjedi]

@User Yes it is you crusading asshat, to me it is more important, than some bullshit "noble" crusade against an "evil" corporation by high iq individuals(Which funny since a smart person bleeds just as well as a dumb person does).

And guess what else also it doesn't revolve around you and your hacker buddies, either genius.

So if i am fighting the good fight against evil corporate america, and your car is stolen/wrecked in the process, and it inconveniences you, oh well my cause is more important. That the same rough bullshit your trying to sell us, there is a better way to pitch your point, all this does is make you look like a arrogant ass who considers other the effects on other people meaningless.

You hacker idiots want to do something noble be a fireman, saving women and children from a burning building.

You extremists are only going to piss off the general masses to the point, where they make officials introduce tighter and more restrictive laws/online policies.

Leave us regular people alone with our gaming, streaming videos and simple pleasures, trust me it's alot better we are preoccupied with these than lobbying congress to stop hackers.

[Silly gameAr]

lol. These guys aren't going to f up my gaming sessions. They'll slip up sooner or later. They have that big head syndrome right now.

[Godmars290]

Well, with any luck they'll end up making hacking a more recognized crime and really screw up everyone's lives including their own as they give companies more reason to commercialize and restrict the internet, and end up in general population prison instead of some juvenile facility.

[rob6021]

I can see it already:

ISP provider: "Hey if you let us filter our traffic, we'll take extra steps to weed out hacker types, we even have the tech to do it"

Government: "Originally we wanted to protect an equal playing field on the internet, but hacking is the greater evil here, so we'll let it slide to keep our capitalism secure, consumer rights need to slide as terrorists will start hacking soon"

[Darth_Bane79]

Don't this pricks see that who they are really pissing off is not just Sony but us consumers? I'm starting to think that this dumba$$e are getting suported by M$.. Why is this happening during what was supposed to be the best year for Sony? Isn't this too much of a coincidence?

[thtruth574]

I think the feds will be watching this time. So I wouldnt worry too much. If one gets caught, Im sure he/she will rat out others. As soon as some reality is thrown in their face, they will talk. Im kinda excited for it. PSN will be fine this time. I have faith in Sony.

[maddfoxx]

These kids need to grow up one day. I really hope they slip up and law enforcement catches up to them. Hopefully, prison time will help them mature.

Why are numerous hacking groups attacking Sony all of a sudden? I doubt this is still about Geohot.

[mastiffchild]

No, it's about their egos and they know people will see if they hit Sony. It's that simple.

[Darkfiber]

This never would have happened if people like YOU didn't make fun of these losers in junior high and turn them into sociopathic basement virgins.

[thtruth574]

No idiot. This wouldn't happen if the powers that be made real consequences for people like these. But I think after this one, when they get caught, this wont happen again for a very long time. Stop defending people who you perceive were slighted, thats just life. The majority dont become criminals.

[QuodEratDemonstrandm]

Some do, just like any other segment of society. The rest look for productive ways to take over the world. Like the clever guys who invented the internet. And Bill Gates (not a huge ms fan but he does have over $50B). And FDR (tell me he wasn't a nerd), and Barack Obama (he's a nerd too).

Be proud of your nerdiness.

[blackburn10]

Yawn. So are we supposed to be scared or something? Why don't you come out from behind those computer screens and say that to our faces cowards? It's easy to hide and threaten someone but just like Geohot when you drag them into the real world where you can get hurt you run away with your tails between your legs @ BlueTemplar yeah let's see them talk big when the bounty hunters and snitches come looking for them

@ dorron. Yeah and then when more bad things started happening they should have rolled over for that too. Are you all really this delusional? Do these people sound like they are reasonable? They literally stole Sony's property, handed it out to everyone and then got angry because Sony took action. And now they are pretending that they didn't do anything while creating hacks to steal accounts, cheat and steal from the store. For God sakes are you really that blind to think that if Sony had given in it would stop there? Why don't THEY give in?

[Barajas_201]

if you hackers want to play with fire, you're going to get burned

[MoB21]

lol

[Moentjers]

cost of a 9mm bullet=0,01$ ?

[dorron]

Probably true...

Sony messed up going against hackers.

I think it was better to let a few pirate games (after all who the hell would download 50GB per game?) than having the hacking community against.

[thtruth574]

you wouldnt stand up for anything would you? lol you prolly could be convinced to do anything. They broke the law. You cant use any verbal gymnastics to get around that. If you dont like laws you should move to a country that doesnt have any.

[Silly gameAr]

These are just guys jumping on the bandwagon right now. Looking for their little 15 minutes and bragging rights. That's pretty much all it boils down too. These guys don't give a s*** about Geohotz. Their in it for s*** and giggles. Little bastards.

[MrDead]

Yes and why dont they also give out a small amout of customer personal data to go with that...... er NO.

Im still glad they stood up to them, shame not all companys have the cahoonas to pursue them the way sony have. These people are criminals its no different from going into a shop and helping yourself, or breaking into someones house and taking money from their wallets. Just because they are sitting behind a computer screen when they do it doesn't make it acceptable or any less of a crime.

[MysticStrummer]

@MrDead - Exactly. I'm glad to support a company that takes a stand against these losers. The state of Texas sent me a letter a few days ago saying that a database with personal info in it was hacked. They shut it down when they detected the hack, but couldn't say if anything was stolen. Familiar, huh? That database had my Social Security number in it, but I still haven't heard a thing about it on the news. Someone needs to stop those jackasses, and I'll keep supporting Sony even if they do get hacked again because they're at least trying.

[Bell Boy]

yes just stand back and give thieving scum free reign...

not the smartest of moves..you give an inch they take a mile because they are thieving scum

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

So Sony should act like sniffling cowards and hide in a room./s

[optimus]

maybe they're disgruntled former sony employees that recognize sony for being the evil empire that it is.

[blackburn10]

If Sony is 'evil' for wanting to protect their property and investments then you better get an army ready because every company is the same thing. Better take down Starbucks and Mcdonalds first as a warm up. @ SuperStrokey1123. I wish they would. I wish they would constitute heavy fines and jail time for hacking networks and cyber terrorism. We would see how long we would see anymore hacker groups with fancy names if they knew they would have to get 3 jobs to pay fines or spend 7 years in prison. We would see how brave they are.

[optimus]

so i take it you were ok with sony releasing the ps3 at 600 bucks and telling the world that "it's the future... you won't find anything better..." blah, blah blah and then turn around a few months later and start removing everything that made it "better". this is why hackers go after them, cause sony likes to leave their custoimers hanging after they invest (heavily i might add) in their products...sony IS the evil Empire as they like to lie,cheat, and steal, their way to the top...people, people, have we forgotten how the 1st playstation came to be??

[radphil]

@optimus

You're a one-trick pony aren't you?

[optimus]

in what sense? i go by facts. do you want to talk about the "innovation and support" of the eyetoy now? sony deserves to be hacked over and over again..."they screw us, we screw them."

[cyclonus007]

@optimus

The only feature they actually removed was OtherOS. You're saying Sony is evil for releasing the system @ $600 and when they release a new model for half the price without OtherOS and backwards compatibility, they're still evil?

And you acknowledged that customers invest heavily in Sony products but you say they deserve to have those products compromised by hackers?

Your very logic is faulty.

[joeorc]

YES..YES ATTACK THE ONLY COMPANY OUT OF THE THREE THAT SUPPORT OPEN SOURCE software.

that is the very IDEA of being pro consumer an they are the one's that deserved to be hacked?

not just hacked, but hacked over an over ..what would happen is they would stop making a playstation?

an make software only for Android powered devices? would you buy an Android device for gaming?

because Sony could very well be likely do just that. than what now? you have an open space of just Microsoft an Nintendo that what a suprise do not do Open Source software.

the Only one out of the three that does indeed show some real pro Consumer IDEAS, play create an share does that ring a bell...Hmm?

an you want them out?

GTFO...I would love for the above to happen , lets see how pro consumer Nintendo an Microsoft are for Open source sware...beep..wrong answer, no open source for you.

even right now The xperia-play an The Xperia line sony gave out the root software steps to anyone that wanted to root their Xperia..did Microsoft do that for the Windows 7? or How about Nintendo do that for their Handheld the 3DS..hmm?

that would be a big giant NO.

So these claims that an you stated

""it's the future... you won't find anything better..." blah, blah blah and then turn around a few months later and start removing everything that made it "better". this is why hackers go after them, cause sony likes to leave their custoimers hanging after they invest (heavily i might add) in their products...sony IS the evil Empire as they like to lie,cheat, and steal, their way to the top...people, people, have we forgotten how the 1st playstation came to be?? "

yea i do remember the PS1 an every playstation since than an there was Homebrew development allowed but with one thing in common, sony locked out one part of the system an for good reason. but no that was not good enough for some people they had to try to make it completely open by force.

an you expect the way the company makes money from that product , not to go after the guy spreading info on how to bypass security so as to allow the home brew people not to pay a licence fee that every established publisher an development house that develops in the industry
would have to pay for thus taking money out of the company the relies on that money to keep support for such product?

of course not , How selfish of them right, the only one of the companies out of the three that supported Opensource in the d@mn first play wants to recoup losses from 3 straight years for a product that you were able to purchase well below the cost to make the d@mn machine in the first place..how f#cking evil of them.

[MysticStrummer]

You really don't make much sense, but considering the site we're on you may not be trying to. You say you go by facts, but that's clearly not true.

[DigitalRaptor]

you are the epitome of the misinformed.

it's people like you who are justifying this whole crusade against Sony for being "evil" and "anti-consumer".

Just take a read of joeorc's comment above and you will see how universally wrong and misinformed you are. Bring more substantial evidence to your accusations next time!

[optimus]

Well seeing as how i have no more replies allowed after this i'll try to answer everyone here...

@Cyclonus007_ i never said "sony was evil for releasing the ps3 at 600." that is the way YOU decided to read it...I declare sony as "EVIL" for their underhanded business tactics in general...and for your information taking out the OTHER OS was NOT the ONLY feature sony took out of the ps3. yes they took out backwards compatability, as well as usb ports, media card readers and linux support...and when i say "invest heavily" i mean people buy their products at huge prices for it's quality and features only to have sony take out the features that promopted them to buy it in the 1st place.

@Joeorc...i never mentioned homebrew anything, but since you brought it up, didn't sony stop linux support on their ps3's?...and why the need for a mobile gaming rant? but let's look at that too since you brought it up...the psp was technically superior to the DS but how long did that last before they decided to change it? and then they create this huplah about the "new and improved" psp by giving it a catchy name like "GO" and now they're backing this Xperia?...what a nice middle finger to the people that bought their little pspGO...and when i mentioned the playstation 1 i was referring to how they stole nintendo's idea of cd gaming, hence the playstation was born. (for the record i had a playstation...which i had to replace the lens about 3 times out of my own pocket).

@MysticStrummer- I do go by facts such as If you did a little research, you would find the disgusting story of the true origins of the “Walkman,” which basically made Sony the monster company that it is today. It was in fact blatantly stolen from a German inventor who had to fight them in court in order to get some kind of recompense for their outright theft.
I could go on and on about the other lawsuits as well but i hope you get the idea.

@digitalraptor..."misinf ormed"? in what regards?...you should read this article... http://www.vg247.com/2011/0...

so since i know longer have more responses left i'll see you all in another thread but as i see it, my claims are very well justified...sony IS an evil empire and has been for a very long time...the only reason Darth Vader isn't their mascot is because they would have to pay George Lucas a boatload of money. and we all know they don't give money, they take it.

[Armadilo]

People that live in their mom's basement should just give up

[SuperStrokey1123]

Ok i really hope the law steps in gets these people...

[Shadowstar]

Really? That's bad language on this site?

[SuperStrokey1123]

Compared to what most people write im shocked it was tagged as well...

[optimus]

it would be great if they do it during sony's keynote speech at E3, just about when sony says "the ps3 will be bigger and better than ever..."...blah, blah , blah,
-lights out-...*good times*

[dafada]

why the hell would you want the playstation to go away? how many people do you think started gaming on the playstation now all of a sudden everyone hates on them so much....wtf...i started gaming because of the ps1 and i've been with them since and i've got a lot of great games out of it

[b_one]

I dont care, mostly coz im not using multiplayer features, gave fake mail there and some random password... they will get borred, funny that they wont attack XBL for MS practices about that latest error issues and response to customers to get fck off. really selfish bastrds

[Libertheme]

These hackers sound like attention whores.

[True1ShotRican]

why do dos this hacker group think they know everything. sony got find them. and have them pay for all the things they did to the company!

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Okay, I'm kinda scared :-/

[vince86]

Why don't these guys get some nice, cozy IT jobs and make some nice money? Why sit around all day and think of plots to hack Sony when they won't get anything out of it?

[rob6021]

Because they're too lazy to go to school, to get decent credentials to go along with their experience - I agree they should. Some of them do have cozy IT jobs already. The hacker stereotypes N4G wants to put on them are just that - stereotypes, hackers can be anyone.

[NotSoSilentBob]

Jealously sucks.

[telekineticmantis]

As the former lead spokesmen of Anonymous Barret Brown said "not to say that there aren't legitimate reasons for OpSony or that the majority involved aren't quality people, but to the extent that someone sits things out when we're working to promote liberty and fight dictatorships but then hops on board when we start going after an electronics firm that's perpetrated far lesser villainy, one has to question those peoples' priorities."

They have no justification, no merit, they are the same Youtube fanboys we deal with everyday, with a new Hacking kit. Childish trolls with childish agendas. Capable of making a real impact, but rather be Social pop culture Antagonists, for self gratification and attention... Oh boy, it seems people with the honor never have the strength and people with the strengths never have the honor

[gumgum99]

Who wanna bet these guys own 360s...

[SlowBurn]

"If YOU can bring down Sony,WE will assemble the cast of the original Star Trek to make one final masterpiece that explains all"
was the promise that was made I'm afraid.A box containing random 80's porn was also included, apparently....

[buckley]

If these hackers are really attempting to wipe a company off the face of the industry, then they'd better get off of their pedestal of righteousness because this doesn't help anyone.

[dirtrider]

maybe the hackers need to do so something more positive.

[Veeger]

What's their purpose? This has gone far beyond. If Sony backs away from gaming, thousands upon thousands will lose jobs. This is terrorism and they should be treated as terrorists, not mentally ill kids they are.

[SlowBurn]

this is the 'downtime' between Halo games.
drives men to madness

[Pintheshadows]

For crying out loud!

[mrmikew2018]

This is bad for pretty much everyone. If these fools succeed in whatever they're trying to do, once Congress catch wind of this, we can pretty much say goodbye to the little privacy we have left (if any) on the internet. This is just more ammunition and leverage for Congress to invade everyone's privacy.

[digimau]

...

[Yo Mama]

http://www.accessatlanta.co...

They same person/people also hacked PBS yesterday over a show that aired last week concerning the "Wikileaks".

I can't wait until they string these people up by their toes and make an example out of them.

[Kellerstein]

Ugh. Okay, you know what. They've made their point. Move on. This hacking is not benefitting anyone.

[Alos88]

Find where they live and nuke it from orbit. I don't even wanna see a scorchmark, just tear a crater into the earth and let these assholes be forgotten.

[WooHooAlex]

I want to see these guys go down, hard.

[stigmurder]

I'm gonna throw out a conspiracy theory for the hell of it. Note: I DO NOT ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS. What if after noticing that PS3 was on the verge of catching up with Xbox 360 sales, a shady black-ops style Microsoft employee was given a mission of hiring hackers to screw up the PSN in order to curb sales and get people to switch to 360. Now there's a conspiracy theory. Dun dun dun!

[YipMan86]

What are they trying to show us, that they have no life at all?

[peeps]

So because Sony took away the other OS functionality you want to take away jobs from thousands of people. If they make large losses they will end up laying people off... What did these people do to deserve that?? It wont be the people making the decisions that suffer

[Xandet]

Seriously. For being such "brilliant" computer hackers, they sure lack common sense. "We're doing it for the PEOPLE!"

Yeah, the same people who you piss off and take hard-earned jobs from. Fucking imbeciles.

[dafada]

wooooow....i dont think these ignorant hackers realize the ps3 is an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM. people buy it to play games,surf the net, watch movie, listen to music etc..... i dont know what else these losers want from it...to play old ass mario games!? why the hell are these guys taking shit so seriously? because sony stopped them from pirating games and costing themselves and developers hard earned cash? because sony didnt give in to their stupid ass demands? all these idiots are doing is hurting the gamers who bought their ps3 FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES not to take it apart like a loser and try to rape its insides

[SuperSaiyan4]

Have the hackers really got nothing better to do than attack Sony or anyone for that matter?

[SlowBurn]

I can confirm the existence of a Sony logo on a chinese spy satellite
also,small Sony logo spotted on 100$ barrel of foreign oil.Sony logo etched in brick of Pakistan parliament building.

[ElementX]

What are you rambling about?

[Equinoxe_7]

now its not the earth, but Sony going down :D

sry forgot, its irony

[Mr_Luke]

I wish huge hemorroids to those damned hackers. Probably they have fun while trolls and so spread bad news about Sony and ppl get mad at Sony...

Before someone says something stupid, i would put Microsoft/Nintendo instead of Sony, if that happened to them. The hatred for hackers is general. Well, not really hackers, but crackers (or something like that).

[Lindsey]

I'm getting so sick of this. People have a right to play games. Sony has done some BS stuff yes, but it's up to the consumer to punish them, not a group of vigilante hackers.

[cr33ping_death]

well said Lind. bubble up vote for you.

[ElementX]

If PSN goes down again, at least I have Terraria and Minecraft on PC! Those will keep me busy for months!

[A LIVING LEGEND]

save the whales.

[DevilishSix]

Not taking any sides and I enjoy my PS3 and 360, but Sony brought this unto themselves. They heavily promoted "Other OS" and homebrew and then took it away and sued a hacker. This spurred a rallying cry in the hacker community. Sony is screwed until this dies down.

[rob6021]

Heavily promoted OtherOS? Really? You've got to be kidding me. I still have my original 60GB PS3 box, and no where on the box does it say anything about Linux or Other OS - I think you have to dig to the back of the instruction manual to find anything about that. Realistically hackers went after PS3, because it was considered unhackable, and since everything is hackable - it became quite a prize for lots of hacker types, even though they want to blame it on the Linux thing to send a message.

What I don't get is, they didn't remove it - they just made it so if you want to connect to the PSN and play newer PS3 games, you'd have to forget about Linux. I guess everyone has to have the best of both worlds.

Why don't hackers go after MS? They didn't even include OtherOS Linux in their console at all? At least Sony tried, but in some kind of twisted backwards logic that becomes a check against Sony and not MS.

Geohot got sued because he wanted to become famous out of hacking the PS3, he didn't need the post the PS3 keys - but he did to help out his huge ego, he egged Sony into doing it. He told Sony they should hire him if they wanted to have better security.
Homebrew is mostly about emulators and free games I used to be part of the PS2 scene I know all about it.

[DevilishSix]

proof is in the pudding. Sony took away Other OS and sued Geo and they have been under attack by hackers since.

[P_Bomb]

Umm, Sony took out Other O/S in a firmware you had to agree to install like 2 years ago, and the Slims where most of their sales came from (look it up) NEVER HAD IT in the first place.

The proof IS in the pudding and that is that no one ever gave a rat's @ss about Other O/S or attacked anything over it in 2009 or 2010. No one. Ever. The PS3 sold better without it. Fact. Nothing happened until GeoHotz got called out for releasing codes that among other things let people damage MW and MW2 online. COD4 still has hack fallout btw.

This isn't even about anything anymore, these lulz guys are just aimless mosquitoes that got a whiff of the blood in the water and are playing games with other peoples' personal information who don't even work for Sony (the Japanese music and Canadian phone service web hacks recently. Protest in person for once hackers, so I can finally meet the people that make it their business to stick their nose in my business.

[Tzuno]

Sony is Raped to smithereens.

[Jack-H]

Welp...I literally have nothing to say..

[birdy966]

10/1 they're bluffing, even if their not, it's definitely not gonna be as easy as the last hack.

[BizDaWolf]

plp like this need to find something better to do with their lifes

[rob6021]

Guess I'll just make sure I watch Sony's E3 from IGN instead of PSBlog, no biggie.

[jneul]

everyone is fed up of useless hackers...

[MasterCornholio]

The hackers can go screw themselves. Why not attack Microsoft for a change they did plenty to piss you people off yet you dont do anything about it. Talk about a bunch of hypocrites.

[Nyxter]

Yes they may damage sony's profit, however there's no way that they will bring down all of Sony.
Anyway - even if they say get rid of the whole department of gaming(which they wont) they do realise sony still make money on products (laptops, tvs etc) so all they will do is cause less competition for the 360 , so worse off deal for all gamers.

[PirateThom]

Hackers have proven they aren't fighting for consumers, they aren't fighting against a corporation, they aren't fighting to defend each other, they're fighting AGAINST us.

Sony may have removed Other OS but hackers disrupted gaming for weeks (still on going due to the store), stole our details, messed up release dates for the store and for what? The inability to access Linux? The fact Sony finally had the balls to stand up to hackers while no one else will?

[BrianC6234]

If these criminals keep going after Sony it will only make things easier on the FBI and every other police force hunting them down. They're going to get a lot of prison time. If a bank robber who steals $50,000 gets years in prison I'd say these morons should get life.

[reaver]

The only thing this proofs is that there should be stronger laws against hacking and more efficient ways to trace them because this is absurd. When Sony finds one of these hackers they should make an example out of him/her by giving a 5 year sentence at least.

[dkgshiz]

Huh, with the FBI and other big organizations like that you think these basement dwellers would give up by now. Either way these idiots are nothing but annoyances that need to be put down.

[ChronoJoe]

You can't just run a company into the ground with illegal attacks lol you don't think they're insured? presuming they can prove responsibility wasn't there's a company like Sony will have insurance which covers all, primary, and secondary damages caused by these attacks.

[Tommykrem]

...Or, you could stop bothering millions of people.
Just offering a second option here.

[Soldierone]

A bunch of nobodies making money doing stupid stuff...FBI just track the idiots already so the stupidity will end. Its not like you are not sitting on their doorstep anyways.

Who cares about the leader, he is probably the only one covering every step he makes. Take down his peons first, one of them will get scared and give up important information.

[cpt_kaos]

Everytime some Hacker in mums basement hacks Sony or any other company for that matter they just make the gamer stronger and more determined to hang em by there balls.

Saying hacking Sony is the beginning of the end is like saying oh no someone's hacking the interweb it's all over shut the damn thing down. ;)

[andron]

Hopefully these PSN hackers get caught and have to spend some years in prison. That's what they deserve for ruining other peoples work and hobbies.

Seems they will try to make Sony bad by trying to hack them at the start of E3. Well, I will stick with Sony, and no hacking cyber trolls can change my mind...

[DrFUD]

If someone went online and made a warning and threat against the President, I guarantee you the government would find that person within the week.

Not sure how they do it but I know they have a way.

Obviously they aren't sharing that info with Sony

[chidori666]

so much immature comments here... =/

sad this.

[no_more_heroes]

I say let them try. Eventually the FBI will give them ALL the attention they so desperately want.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

whomever this is...you definitely get the feeling they have taken some kind of personal offense with regard to Sony. I just can't see this still being a "Angry cause of Geohotz" thing.

[Bluemaster77]

Ok this is retarded , im a 360 guy but I do have a PS3 and would like to use it without worry there is nothing being gained from this and the implications left on the government to impose anti-privacy legislation will be great

[Jack-H]

word.

[jeanm3306]

We know one thing though, at the end of this battle. Sony network will be one mean secure System then any company in the world. Hopefully a better network also, I hope these cracker(not hackers) end up in jail.Wikipedia definition of hackers and crackers "A hacker is a person who breaks into computers and computer networks for profit, as protest, or sometimes by the motivation of the challenge.[1] The subculture that has evolved around hackers is often referred to as the computer underground but is now an open community.[2]
Other definitions of the word hacker exist that are not related to computer security. They are subject to the long standing hacker definition controversy about the true meaning of hacker. In this controversy, the term hacker is reclaimed by computer programmers who argue that someone breaking into computers is better called cracker,[3] not making a difference between computer criminals ("black hats") and computer security experts ("white hats"). Some white hat hackers claim that they also deserve the title hacker, and that only black hats should be called crackers."

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

Hackers should drink the kool-aid, Jonestown style.

[CNXN]

Goddamn Hackers...

[Iceman100]

"More Hacks Soon"

excellent news the faster their gone the better as they are ruining the gaming industry.

[T3MPL3TON]

"GamingBolt.com strongly recommends its users to support Sony during these tough times for the company."

Sony will get my support when they start acting like adults and not like a collective of children. They need to pull their heads out of their asses and actually fix the problem. Every other day it's, "We'll have the store back up tomorrow.. I mean Tuesday.. I mean next week.. I mean just watch the blog.. OK, definitely next month.. I hope.. I don't know actually, watch the blog."

[TheOneYouHate]

My team shall release our Anti-Hacker Craken!! (Seriously)

[Orionsangel]

All this for Linux. That's the funniest and saddest part. It's like spoiled children who didn't get their way. So now they're gonna punish Mommy and Daddy. Their arrogance will be their downfall.

[refocusedman]

Its ironic that the hackers are becoming 10x worse than the company that they chose to attack. Sony's rational behind all of their decisions, is to make a profit. I can honestly say that who or whomever is promoting these attacks dont have a valid "legal" reason for their actions. This isnt abt protecting anyones right to modify what they purchased, this is abt trying to demonstrate the amt of power/influence that they yield. And if they accomplish what they are trying to do, I can guarantee you that this will not end with sony. Any company or person that says anything against them or disagrees with their ideologies will be attacked.

[altimako02]

sony did use their power and influence to attack george , not to mention their money

[refocusedman]

Even fail-over-flow "the organization that discovered the key" initially disagreed with george posting the key code on the net. At the end of the day he brought that attention on himself.

[BABY-JEDI]

Wasn't George (as you so fondly call him) asking for it???

[llMurcielagoll]

Boy those hackers wont just let it go would they.. AT LEAST... AT THE VERY LEAST you hackers.. No freaky stuff during E3 Conferences.

[Rettom]

Well, people who get their credit card hacked get $1,000,000. That's good right? Wrong. Hackers might take more than that. And Sony would go bankrupt.

[kntsofnie]

This is seriously getting old. Just because Mommy didn't hug you enough doesn't mean that you need to seek attention anyway you can get it. I just hope that they get caught and punished(I'm not holding my breath though).

[GrumpyVeteran]

PC is the superior platform.

[hiredhelp]

maybe in way of servers and videocards perhaps. but doesnt mean you any safer quite the opposit.

[BABY-JEDI]

YES it is, & with a far superior price tag too. Value is a relative concept. Think about it..
Oooh my head hurts LoL

[hazardman]

I thought doing this sort of hacking was against their code! This is not good. So I guess Im only using my PS3 for exclusive single player games and getting all the online multi platform games on Xbox 360, but thats if PSN goes down again...

[joeorc]

they are all going to charged if an when they are found :

Under RICO, a person who is a member of an enterprise that has committed any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity." RICO also permits a private individual harmed by the actions of such an enterprise to file a civil suit; if successful, the individual can collect triple damages Under RICO"

Although its primary intent was to deal with organized crime, Blakey said that Congress never intended it to merely apply to the Mob. He once told Time, "We don't want one set of rules for people whose collars are blue or whose names end in vowels, and another set for those whose collars are white and have Ivy League diplomas."

when you setup an organization an do something like this you better be sure.

"When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property, as well as require the defendant to put up a performance bond."

also:

This provision was placed in the law because the owners of Mafia-related shell corporations often absconded with the assets. An injunction and/or performance bond ensures that there is something to seize in the event of a guilty verdict.

In many cases, the threat of a RICO indictment can force defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges, in part because the seizure of assets would make it difficult to pay a defense attorney. Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.

key note:

"There is also a provision for private parties to sue. A person damaged in his business or property can sue one or more "racketeers." The plaintiff must prove the existence of a "criminal enterprise."

"The defendant(s) are not the enterprise; in other words, the defendant(s) and the enterprise are not one and the same."

HEHE they only have to get one out of the 4 to get you..

example:

"There must be one of four specified relationships between the defendant(s) and the enterprise. A civil RICO action, like many lawsuits based on federal law, can be filed in state or federal court.

Both the federal and civil components allow for the recovery of triple damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages)."

If you do not think they would i would say you can bank on it. If the US catches them, other countries have their ways an means also.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

This fight against Sony lost its meaning a long time ago... I don't even know what is their purpose anymore. Hotz is free, the otherOS is not gonna come back and Sony's not going to allow anybody to legally jailbreak their console. =/

These attacks will only going to increase the negative perception of the public toward them.

[Enigma_2099]

I just want to take this opportunity to thank that wonderful human being, George Hotz, for making all of this possible. Clearly nothing but good things have come to pass from your cracking the PS3 in the interest of restoring Other OS. And of course you need not take any responsibility for the ensuing s***storm that followed. I mean it's not like you left the door open to the hackers... no no no...

... you just gave them the key to the f****** door!!!

[altimako02]

george hotz did not orchestrate this , sony did

[ndl1531]

yes in your delusional 360fanboy brain yes sony did this haha what stupidity . so sony is WRONG for going after criminals ? if your house gets robed and all the stuff you worked your a$$ to get is gone certainly its your fault right ? "dammit why did i have such cool stuff its all my fault" i know your loyally to that machine blinds you but please use common sense

[JasonX43]

Thanks for announcing it to the world, guys! Now the FBI and the CIA can be ready for you!

[zodiac909]

Seriously this Sh*t is starting to get old

[bigboss716]

I bet they wont be able to...lol

[Rageanitus]

why dont they hack the banks.... lol they are the real crooks ;) just like insurance companies

but hey they are hacking the psn because they want everyone to pirate games.

[simonrope]

I will applaud to their hacking.

[Ethereal]

If I ever see anyone of these selfish people in public, there will be hell to pay. Leave us alone, all we want to do is game. Attack more corrupt things like governments, they are the ones screwing the people, not Sony.

[Jack-H]

I really am getting tired of reading about peoples' threats against Sony. I wouldn't have a different opinion if it were against MS or Nintendo. It's absolutely ridiculous to think you are ABOVE the law in any situation. The egos of these hackers is unreal to me.

I still get surprised every time I see someone applauding them or rooting for them. I mean it's your right to feel that way I suppose. But, I personally find that way of thinking to be very juvenile.

"If hackers were crackers I'd crush them in soup"

______

I don't want the hackers to attack ANYBODY. I want them to STOP.

[Serinous]

Hackers. Please. If you want to hack Sony, hack their corporate or even employee computers. dont hack or attack the PSN again. Rember, ur enemy is Sony not gamers.

[altimako02]

The only way to attack a big company is to hit them where it hurts , in this case it seems to be getting the job done . and dont get me wrong i own a ps3 and would like to be playing it online to, but i think that it is worth the down time if the desired results are met.

[hiredhelp]

altimako02

hey kid nice one dude. can you send me your ip,
see if you say the same once you get shafted.

[altimako02]

what do you mean

[Flare149]

It's hackers like this that are going to get more and more restrictions put on the internet, computers, and gaming.

It's been said a hundred times, but we're gamers too, so JUST STOP ALREADY!

[Neko_Mega]

Hackers today don't know their place, its going funny when they get all busted.

This is a worst time to mess with Sony, maybe next year when Sony isn't waiting for attack on their network.

Plus FBI is watching Sony's network to.

[SuperBeast811]

Im sure Sony is shaking in there boots lol you know Sonys whole buisness is not based on their online services.The Playstation brand is NOT going anywhere they have way too many fans WORLDWIDE to just let it die

[linko18-1990]

Can't someone start a hacking group to fight hackers ? give them a taste of their own medicine.

[Saito]

hackers plz get a life

[CanadianTurtle]

Wow, these guys are losers. If you look at this situation closely, they are potentially killing the gaming industry's form of innovation. Sony and Nintendo are the experts of innovation when it comes to hardware or software. If sony goes down, that sucks for us because Microsoft doesn't take any risks in the game industry.

Seriously, I want to punch one of these guys in the face. They need some serious mental help

[SpLinT]

why cant twitter just give the FBI his IP address and game over?

[ziggurcat]

likely because the coward(s) is(are) hiding behind a handful of proxies - not to mention the fact that fake info was probably used to create the account.

[zackacloud]

Hacking group just get a real life if u men why not face the life and stole banks and IDs.

Sony or not it a crime not a pirate game.

Chikens behind scences.

If they are a real hacker can they crack the seciruty of xbl live from 0 or can they hack psn from 0.

I doubt.

[danthebios]

to all that supported these hackers,i hope you are happy because now you know what kind of people they really are.sad,just sad.They like to destroy rather then make it good.

[Bimkoblerutso]

If they ever catch one of these assholes, they need to make a HUGE example out of him. Maybe it'll ward off some of their dickery for a while.

[ceed911]

lol

[earbus]

Ha ha ha just classic vendetta,guess now its a challenge to see if they can beat the new security sweet,if ms got hacked id laugh just as hard,now ill just laugh at sony.

[KillerPwned]

They can only go on for so long until they make that tiny little mistake that lets them open to everyone. The government will probably get them first in their own hands.

You cant escape them they will find you.

As goes for sony they will have their justice, I`m not worried about this at all they don`t scare me this will all blow past.

The US government is already looking into internet bills to stop hackers and take back control of what they created.

[Savader]

Why are they acting like we want this to happen? Seriously, just back the hell off. You aren't helping anyone by hacking Sony...you are just making it more stressful for everyone else. Get a f-ing life. PLEASE!

[Fel08]

Hope the police put this assholes in jail.

[WooHooAlex]

The problem is once they catch these guys, there may not be a way to link them to the previous attacks.

Sony knows how they were hacked but they don't know by who.

I actually don't think they'll be successful in future attacks, at least against PSN. Its not like Sony will be completely vunerable after they're done rebuilding PSN. They'll ultimately come out of this stronger and more secure. Its not going to be nearly as easy next time, that is if they have the balls to ever try again.

[earbus]

The media loves a good beat up story, my guess is sonys e3 will be overshadowed by the press asking heaps of hack questions there will be no ducking and escaping them.

[gam3fr33k]

Microsoft's probably paying them

[kasasensei]

Leave PSN alone!

[rob20090]

If this doesn't stop we might very well lose another one of our freedoms. ( This seems to be a trend with the US Government lately)

[fourthpersonview]

They act tough behind their computers.

Let them outside their houses and see if they can even stand up straight.

[2v1]

Sony and Sony Computer Entertainment announce full restoration of PlayStation Network services
!!!!!!!!!!

[Trroy]

Why don't they like... hack the PS3, like they're claiming is what they want to do?

This is all a baby tantrum because they cannot hack the PS3, and pirate PS3 games? That seems about the mindset of most hardened criminals -- they can't see anything but their own selfish goals, and set out to hurt people to attain them, not understanding that what they've done is wrong, and that if it was done to them, they'd be po'd. That's why we put people like these in prison -- so they can't hurt people, because they will if they're allowed to.

Remember to keep the soap close, "hackers".

[bredstick65]

Why are these people still called hackers? They are cyber terrorist. Not on the same scale that Muslim terrorist are but still terrorist.

Their attacks do little to effect the creators of their perceived wrong yet affect the lives of the innocent.

Shutting down the PSN affects millions of users most of which have absolutely no idea of the reason why. They claim that the PS fans blindly follow Sony and that it's too bad that they chose an evil greedy company to follow.

Sounds like Bin Laden explaining the attacks on the American people?

90% of the game players don't know what the hell they are talking about. This article will get maybe 500 comments. It will be read by at best 10,000 readers. Compare that to the millions and millions of players out there.

They say they want to bring Sony down. What they should say is hey we want to ruin games for millions of users so that the next company that tries to stop us from making money on us stealing games will think twice.

Us gamers and hackers all less then 1% of the people who buy games get to decide what happens in the industry.

The millions of you who disagree, who don't even care, the ones who keep buying what we think is garbage like the wii or call of duty too bad for you. We get to decide because we are right! You don't know better. Your not gamers. You believe in corporate greed.

Forget the people who buy Sony stock or have it tied to their 401k. Sony profits not them. forget the people who work for Sony working hard to support their family's. None of that matters.

What matters is the 10000 kids who can hack. The ones who want to turn the gaming industry into the music industry.. ...free games on line. We all saw how that turned out. Music is great now that it's free on the internet?

[NnT3291]

yep, these people are more like terrorists.They like destroying things. There're some hackers who hack stuff and share their works for the community.

[Trroy]

Some of your comment I can agree with, except that Sony, of the 3 home console manufacturers, is by FAR the least greedy, and has the most regard for its consumers. Anyone who tells you otherwise has (a) never worked in the game industry, and probably (b) doesn't pay attention to humane manufacturing practices, monopolistic practices, or consumer abuses over the years.

[n4gisatroll]

I've said that when this started and people went insane. They are terrorists, which is why I believe the FBI is involved.

[The_Quiet_Man]

@ grzajabarkus - Criminals definitely (low life credit card scammers, identity thieves)

I'm hoping with the new updated security, Sony & the FBI can trace these people & possibly prosecute them. So this time if they do attack, they should be caught red-handed.

Then after that Sony could try & pin the last attack on them as well just to add a longer sentence,lol , I know I would. A week in prison for everday the PSN was down, seems fair.

[gaden_malak]

It's getting hot in here.

[hyderide]

time to buy xbox360

[Iceland]

One thing is for sure, these hackers aren't very intelligent.

[LukeFair]

They don't do this for fun. They are paid by someone, probably a company. The right question to ask is: who benefits from all this?

[HeroPsychoDreamer]

Why the hell don't the hack al qaeda or some pedophile ring? Put your skills to good use!

[jay2]

Go f*** your selves, yoir not lives must be so boring.

[DolphGB]

If Sony keep getting hit like this and lose big sums of money, they'll do what every big company does to save themselves. They will look at their Profit & Loss sheets for the biggest expense and make cuts.

Which line on the P&L is always the biggest? Salaries.

Good people, many of whom may have started out in the same way as these spineless hackers, but who had the balls to put their talent to proper use and 'tread the right path', will lose their jobs.

If first-party jobs don't go, third-party software houses will certainly feel the pinch from Sony, who will need to save money by selling off good development firms.

And all the time, these hackers, who haven't got the guts to put their skills to proper use and who hide behind their own insecurities, continue to punish the very people they wish they could become.

Hey hackers - time to wise up and grow a pair. Stop punishing good people who have earned their right to be where they are, and start putting your balls on the line for a good wage plus the kind of respect and plaudits you can only dream of. What you're doing right now isn't earning you anything, least of all anyone's respect.

[Bebedora]

If the decline in profit gets that big, what would happen if Other OS comes back? Will they stop hax0rz1ng the bejeebus out of PSN then?

GeoHotz has gotten his share of freedom and compensation? I mean, that issue is already over.

Disclaimer: I am just speculating and takes no responsibilities if anyone gets upset of what I am saying above or with this disclaimer.

[godsinhisheaven]

Hypocrites

[geniusgamerdoc]

This time its Sony who gets the final Laugh.

[andibandit]

Dear Hackerz

You is very very bad man, go away.

[KifKroker]

You have made your point pick on someone else for god sake i just want to game

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

poor poor Sony,they should get on their knees and beg for forgiveness for all the evil they have done.

[Rob946]

Eh? what evil have Sony done?, all they have done is try protect there company and the people who use there services by adding more security, I can tell just by your msg that u are most definetly a Xbox fanboy.

[solsub]

Blah blah blee blah

I'm sure a bunch of basement-dwelling nerds can destroy a multi-billion, multi-national corporation at a whim.

Give me a break.

[Bebedora]

I'm not so sure they are a couple of basement-dwelling nerds. I am just saying. Childish? Yes. I bet you've seen Einstein with his toung out too?

Just a thought.

[producingheat]

(CLOSED)

[ThePsychoGamer]

We've seen this a lot of times before, hackers promised to bring a company or group down, a few small attacks and protests later they give having had no real effect.

moving on.

[Lord_Sloth]

I hope their computers get struck by lightning when they commit their next crime.

[funktion_d]

I have to say. As much as i want PSN up too.. I find the battle interesting. Curious if this is all just hot air, or if there really is a threat.

May be a sign of the times to come too..

[joeorc]

for those that get not only can be gone after for the Rico act but in this case it is a min of 3 years with no reduction of times served..they have to do the full three years..yikes

http://www.wired.com/images...

also

The administration also wants to create a national data-breach law that would help standardize the patchwork of state laws and force companies that operate critical-infrastructure systems to produce a security plan customized to protect against threats to their systems. The plans would be subject to evaluation by an independent commercial auditor and give the Department of Homeland Security authority to request changes to the plans if the government deems them insufficient.

but key note:

The government also wants to require critical infrastructure companies to report significant breaches to DHS and to give them immunity from civil liability for sharing information with the government.

in a nut shell this would if say PSN get's hacked again or XBOX LIVE for what ever reason, you could not sue the companies for civil liability...bingo!

on top of it all

as an added bonus to Hacker's/lol

" The administration also wants lawmakers to extend the Racketeering-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, to cover felony computer crimes. RICO has traditionally been used to prosecute the mob and other organized crime groups but does not presently cover computer crime. "

this was sent through on May 13th

http://www.wired.com/threat...

[Verick]

Have they caught any of those "Hackers"?

[Freddy_Millz1]

I find it ironic how so many ppl address their hatred to these Hackers everytime they get a new piece of news from said group, yet Hackers dont give a flying sh*t how they feel.
What im trying to say is, they do all this harm, claiming its for the betterment of the industry yet (and dont quote me on this)NONE of them ever came to this site to see the true reactions of the ppl whom they are *helping*. This is no longer a protest, now its simply feeding time at the troll caves. The more articals get posted about them, the more they are going to show their asses. I dont understand why N4G doesnt see that....I sure as hell am not approving these stories, so who is?

[Verick]

It's not plausible to say "They don't give a flying
____". It probably makes them hack more.
Afterall hackers, Are the biggest geniuses of lifespawn.

[Freddy_Millz1]

While this is all sound, think of the original purpose of this giant quest of theirs. "To prohibit the block on the rights of modifying ones personal system."

This started cuz GeoHots was penalized for his global announcement of the Root Key. Now that the case is settled, and Sony are being defiant by defending themselves with more security measures, Hackers take this as a personal grudge and continue because its now a challenge. Meanwhile u have numerous ppl HERE screaming "Leave us the F*** alone, you are not helping us gamers at all!" I just feel that they lost their way with this quest of theirs.

[killerskull]

Hackers attack sony, sony sends their elite team to hunt them down. Navy seal team six you have a new mission socom style. Seriously though I don't have time to sit and wait for hackers to stop this crap I want to play online. And if it happens again then my 360 will be my primary system. At least during the xmas outage I could still play online for those two weeks. And that kids is the major difference between the outages you could play you 360 during the outage online ps3not so much. Btw we still got stuff from ms and sony yet has not given us the store.

[ShadowKingx]

go ahead a attack sony. pretty sure they will be waiting.

plus this guy is stupid you know twitter doesnt have very good security. so they just trace his ip quick as hell.

well hacking group be seeing you when you get out of prison. don't drop the soap.

[thespaz]

Does Sony actually deserve this?

What did they do besides try to protect their IP?

Someone should hack the hackers.

[Bebedora]

I find it very strange too. I think it has to be a very huge intrusion to the very core of SONY PSN at first, so they have their claws in there for future use. Why? Bad security from the beginning. (my thought).

But hack the hackers? One in China, one in Baghdad, one in Brazil and 250 on Jersey Island with an account from a real rich dude whom has a beef with SONY. Ofcourse just a scenario I can think of.

[2Negative]

CNN is reporting that cyber attacks that are against the USA it's allies and it's intrest, will be seen as acts of war. The USA can and will use miltary action against those who use cyber attacts against us.

[broomhead123]

stupid hackers, there not gaining anything from this, anonymous's attacks at the were a just retaliation again sony suing geohot and Fail0verflow, but this is just too far

[Atlas-1983]

what freedom ?

[Shadowstar]

The freedom to shoot ourselves in the foot until we can't walk?

[reaver]

When you look at their twitter posts it's starting to look more and more that they are just a bunch of trolls.I'm starting to doubt that they have anything of much importance from Sony,if anything at all.

[5119ent]

because u cant steal games you get mad...

[BYE]

I like how hackers always act like people want them do hack. Like they are some kind of heroes or something. They should realize that the millions of people they're messing with rather want to see them rot in a cell than shake their hand.

[Nivalis]

I wouldn't call a bunch of script kiddies that discovered Havij "hackers".

[Garethvk]

Here is what I do not get. The moment they announce their intent to hack, it is a crime and as such they can be arrested and prosecuted. So why arent the punks in jail?

[Joshua59]

WHYYYYYYYYY Would you hack sony it is one those Xboxs playes. people get your hpoe up we will mot let these happen again

[blakstarz]

Seriously...if this bullshit stems from the removal of installing another OS. I would like to line each of these nerds up and bitchslap them!

[aia12]

sony should use the power of the cell to protect psn. they should use those spus and everything will be ok. by the way I see some people are playing blame the xbots again.

[BX81]

Someone must have hacked the mods because they're doing there job for once... I like how they wont do anything for a while then just pick one article to climb all over. It's like the cops who show up late to a shooting with one patrol then later on during the day bust a J-walker with 10 patrols and swat!