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Great Post-Apocalyptic Games

Craig from TV and Lust explores the sense of wonder and dread post-apocalyptic games throughout gaming, from Crystalis on the NES to Fallout 3 on modern consoles.

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Kee4736d ago

I don't really like the post apocalyptic setting. While others may see wonder and dread, I just see boring landscapes with nothing in them. Well that's all i saw in fallout 3. It was a good game, I played it to the end but I spent a lot of time wandering around just looking for somewhere to go.

Eiffel4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Seems like you're not too much into open world games, or at least open world rpgs.

Kee4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Actually, I really liked oblivion, even though it suffered from the same boredom at least the scenery was nice to look at and you could walk on water.
@Oshcino I did play the game to the end. Did you not read that?
I enjoyed the story it's just the dull setting was rather.. well, dull.
I was into fallout I'm just talking about this one thing I didn't like about it. And no, I don't think they should've changed it. Otherwise it would be a different game. Even some of my favourite games have things wrong with it.

We can go back to infamous if you like.
I really like infamous but the thing that bugged me was that whether you were good or evil you still followed the exact same story and fought the same enemies. Now, obviously the game would have been better if it were not like that but the experience was different enough to make me want to play it a second time.

Much like fallout. You mis-understood me, I'm not criticising the game, I'm just saying I don't like the setting. It's a matter of taste. You sir, are too quick to judge.
Now, let me get into the reason I never played new vegas.
I had enough fallout. I just had. After 30+ hours of a good game I thought, I get the gist of it and realise it isn't totally my thing.

So don't assume. It makes an ass out of u and me. Love that one...

Actually, Oschino you've taught me a valuable lesson about n4g. If I don't tell you every little detail of my point then I may as well get ready to get flamed because what people don't know, they assume. So I now have to cover my tracks in every comment I write so they have to be 3 paragraphs long and span the entire page so people who look into things too much don't get the wrong idea...
So thanks for that.

Oh, yes and @MidnytRain thanks for pointing that out that that was not what I was trying to say. I am not a troll. Anything I have to say is backed up by opinions formed through actually playing the game. :)

Oschino19074736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

@Kee, did you not read my comment? DERP! Only the first paragraph was to you and it come off somewhat the wrong way but i think we both understand where we are both comming from now. Regardless we arent all mind readers or your bestest friend so maybe explaining a tad further rather then being vague and open ended would help your cause.
Mainly i was just saying why are you even comming to this article and commenting when you have no interest in the genre to begin with, it would be like me showing up on an InFamous 2 page and pointing out everything i didnt like about the 1st even though it was something i was never into and had no plans of getting the 2nd one. Why would anyone in the comment section of that article give 2 poops what i have to say about it?

Oh and Kee i was someone who agreed with your comment but only the sencond to last paragraph...

Kee4736d ago

Okay, man. I'm glad we agree that what I don't say can be worse than what I do say.
No hard feelings, then?
It's been quite a productive day for me... Resolving arguments without allowing it to degrade into sub-par name calling and silliness.
Shows n4g isn't full of of idiots.

Thanks again, Oschino.

Caleb_1414736d ago

I'm of the same opinion actually. The post-apocalyptic setting just didn't really draw me in as Oblivion did when I first played it.

Oblivion kept me immersed for hours upon hours, Fallout... while it was a truly amazing game and I can easily grasp why people found it so good, I just didn't get the same feeling from it as with Oblivion.

I think personally i'm more into fantasy RPG's as there's always more scope for variety in fantasy as its not rooted to the norms of society today (I know that F3 was set in the 1950's and had the alien expansion and such, but it still had an authenticity to it which was constantly there which it couldn't really break free from).

Each to his own is how I would conclude it :) On many forums people have compared Fallout 3 and Oblivion together to see which game everyone preferred and often they both come out 50:50. This just gives testament to what I said above, they're both different games with different themes with different locations which stay rooted to a key formula.

Oschino19074736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Not a surprise to see Kee not liking a game for what it is and just wishing it was another game. How can you critique a game that you never were into to begin with, many of the things you dont like are what draws other people to it. I for one wasnt a big fan of Oblivion or InFamous and for many good and valid reasons but i am not gonna bash it and say i wish it was something else i liked, for what it was it was a great game, i am just not into those kind of games as much. Not tryin to come at you but wonder why you even bother to comment when its something you have never been into form the start. Personally i never even could play old school RPG cause i am def not a fan at all of fanasty or anythign about the Oblivion universe, if it wasnt for Fallout 3 and later on New Vegas i would still not be playing rpgs cause its the one that caught my eye and made me re think what a modern rpg is.

@Caleb did you even play Fallout 3 or just watch a friend go through some parts, find it hard to believe you played or even beat it when you obviously either didnt play or gave the game no chance and never bothered to follow the story. It is set in an alternate universe following ww2, america went on to be more like we thought the future would be after the 1950s hence all the 50s styling and looks, everything went to shit and the world "ended" in the mid 21st century i believe and the game takes place about 200years after that. so yeah please chigity check yourself before you wreck yourself next time, hate when people act like they played a game and can have perspective when they dont know basic storyline details. Not to mention with all the expansion you go to new and totally different areas/landscapes.

Now having said that I am a big fan of Fallout and not so much of Oblivion but both have won game of the year so to try to bash either or and downgrade them just shows your disdain for the other and inability to seperate your personal choice from acknowleding that the game is GREAT and has nothing more wrong with it then the latter. although i will argue Oblivion gets tiresome at times with it quest/side quest vartions and the story can be totally out of wack at times depending what you do with and how you do things with your character, i feel Fallout 3 enhanced those features and New vegas further and Skyrim will now set the standard again although i will be passing as its not my kind of game but will be Awesome none the less for fans of the series.

MidnytRain4736d ago

I agree with your idea of people critiquing things they have no interest in (although I don't believe that's what Kee was doing). I recently watched Spirited Away and afterwards looked it up on Metacritic. While all the professional reviews were positive, some of the user reviews were negative. When I read one, the user starts out by saying he doesn't even like anime in general. If you don't like a genre/art form, then you really can't say you appreciate it. If you can't appreciate it, then you have no right to criticize it.

Caleb_1414736d ago

1.) You ask me whether I played the game all the way through, then you form it into fact by saying how I don't know the basic storyline details? You jump the gun too much.

2.) I have played Fallout 3 twice through and all of the expansions; don't go telling me I didn't play the game enough and that I didn't follow the story.

3.) Please try and type your sentences better, I found it really hard to follow what you were saying while ignoring your nonsensical ramblings.

MidnytRain4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

You must not be playing the game right, then. I recently got the trophy for discovering one hundred locations, so there must be more than that considering I'm still finding things. The history and the world of the Fallout universe is very fleshed out; everyone has their own story. Finding out how the wastelander and raider I just passed died is a small treat in itself. Just check out the Fallout wiki for yourself. You and I could never put together something as comprehensive as that. It's one of the richest game worlds you can explore, which is a bit ironic considering it has a post-apocalyptic setting.

Oschino19074736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

I agree. I myself am the exploring type, i can spend hours (in real life) just wandering through trails and off the paths in the woods, love exploring abandoned buildings and areas that people once used extensively, just love trying to think of how it was in a past time. Games like Fallout had me for so many reasons and i never even considered RPGs before, i played hours and hours exploring every inch of the map and looking for all the easter eggs. I thought the lanscape and enviroments although bland colored very exciting and enticing just drawing me further and futher in to explore and see what was around the next building, street, hallway and tunnel. Finding the "set up scenes" and trying to figure out what happened was AWESOME!

Oh and i called out Kee cause he did something very similar yesterday between LBP 1&2 and InFamous.

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Hufandpuf4736d ago

Fallout 3 is the best Post-Apocalyptic game ever made IMO

ATiElite4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
-Shadow of Chernobyl
-Clear Sky
-Call of Pripyat

are the best post-Apocalyptic games ever made and they only will be beaten by the up coming S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.

Scavengers
Trespassers
Adventures
Loners
Killers
Explorers
Robbers

Fallout 3 is cool but it just lacks the depth, atmosphere, player immersion, and quality FPS mechanics of the STALKER series.

Hufandpuf4736d ago

I just saw the S.T.A.L.K.E.R Chernobyl trailer, and it's not better than Fallout. In Fallout every descision you make shapes your character. You can become evil, or a savior. Different people can either like you or hate you. There's even a trading mechanic and real time NPCs who go through daily life just to survive. there's A full Day to Night Cycle. And various enemies and limitless options to choose from. Also the game has almost infinite re playability because you can customize your character and progress him/her in different ways. FALLOUT is the BEST post apocalyptic game out now.

Venoxn4g4736d ago

Nice to see Enslaved and Fragile :)

Desert Turtle4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Major spoilers for the few people who haven't completed Final Fantasy VI yet (like me).

Also, does Chrono Trigger count as post-apocalyptic? Shit hit the fan in one of the time periods, so that has to count.

MasterD9194736d ago

Still think theres plenty of room for new post-apocalyptic IP's even with Rage coming out.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies16m ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

CrimsonWing6911h ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker11h ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6910h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

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Now is the Best Time to Get This Incredible RPG Bundle on Steam

If you are looking for an awesome RPG, look no further. Steam is offering a significant discount on its Fallout Franchise Bundle.

SimpleSlave1d 2h ago

"You can get all Fallout games in a bundle at a significant 20% discount on Steam. Individually, all these games add up to $244.91. With the discount, you can get them all for $195.91. That is $49 less than the original price. Quite a significant discount for such a popular franchise."

😊 😂 🤣 😐 - But why?

Just wait for a sale and get most if not all of it for a fraction of that price.

20% off...lol

Tacoboto1d 1h ago

The games were just on a real sale over the last week or two for the show promotion. Fallout 4 was $10, 3 was $5, NV was cheap as heck too.

So what the heck is this

Inverno1d 1h ago

The original games have been given out for free by Amazon for GOG and Epic, 76 is free now on Amazon if you have prime, Epic has also given out new Vegas for free and 4 has gone down to pretty cheap prices. 194 bucks is a total ripoff when you can get these games individually for less. Don't forget cd keys might sell em for a dollar less at times too. Come on man, us cheapskates won't touch anything near or above 100 lolz

isarai1d 1h ago

Bro that's a ridiculous ripoff are you kidding me? 🤣

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Fallout 3's Reveal Led To Death Threats And Bethesda's First Security Guard

The artist behind Fallout 4’s Deathclaw reveals just how bad things got back when Bethesda took over the series

anast2d ago

People are stupid I get it. No one should feel unsafe,

But I think they need to talk about why they cut so many corners during the development process and why none of their games ever look current. And why they think all of this is okay while they charge full price.

LucasRuinedChildhood2d ago

As much as Bethesda deserve criticism, that's not really relevant to the reveal of Fallout 3 in 2007.

VenomUK2d ago

The default angle Kotaku always go for is to highlight the worst in gaming.

I would’ve focused on the creative.

anast1d 7h ago

The game went downhill at Fallout 3's release. This is when they started to cut corners.

gold_drake2d ago

there is no "but". the hell lol
you dont send death threats, period.

anast1d 7h ago

Usually, you have good comments but this isn't one of them. It just rides the mob. We can do both condemn the actions and not let them use it for other things.

I can say I received a death threat and everyone needs to shut up. People are not honest and will use horrible things to their advantage.

Armaggedon1d 20h ago

Not all games “look” current.

anast1d 7h ago

Their games always look like the gen before it.

Armaggedon22h ago

Yeah, but thats not the result of laziness, incompetence, or a bad engine. Thats what happens with their type of open world games. Its hard for people to find a point of comparison because no one makes games like Bethesda does.

gold_drake1d 1h ago

mh ok thanks, i still think ur wrong in this mate.

anast1d ago

No problem. I'm not here to convince you. I'm only stating an actuality. What your words do if we look at them like events.

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