Call of Duty Black Ops Future Updates (version 1.06+)

David Vonderhaar has posted details of future updates of Call of Duty Black Ops on the official forum, revealing possible changes Treyarch are considering. One of which will give the person who 'downs' a Second Chance user the full kill credit, while the player who finishes the player off gets an assist.

[Retro_Zombie]

People still play COD? lol

[Nate-Dog]

I'm guessing so, since it ya know broke pre-order records and stuff.

[MerkinMax]

Comments like that are just ignorant.

On topic; I'm glad they are toning down the AK74u, it is almost every players top weapon. The possible last stand changes sound great. I use last stand and I must admit that it is quite a crutch, but I use it to keep killstreaks going.

[outwar6010]

im pretty sure he was being sarcastic dude but cod is a pretty rough diamond ya dig?

[RBLAZE1988]

Yea I guess we all paid 65-150 bucks for a beta...:/

This is stuff that should have been noticed in testing. Hell I noticed all these issues within the first few weeks of playing. Thank god I sold this garbage. hopefully Next year COD doesn't break any records because people should be fed up with this crap.

[Retro_Zombie]

Anyone want to buy a copy of Bl Ops harden edition?

[KillerBBs]

none of the things you are fixing would be even be at the bottom of my list. Fix the game and quit re-setting my "Kill to Death ratio". I don't care about boosters. If that's your thing then have at it, Paper Dragon! Trayack is just Pissing everyone off by re-setting it! Clueless, just like this next patch.

Funny how they are not going to address the "invulnerability period" in second chance... I notice this in the crappy campaign! Many of the enemies had "invulnerability period"! If they perform an action like jumping over a trench or some kind of special ai movement they were "invulnerabile" to my gun shots... Just a waste of ammo.

[-Alpha]

Why are you even here then? This article clearly isn't for you, it's amazing how many times a COD article can get trolled on.

[King-Leonidas]

meh, i havent played black ops for weeks now

[edhe]

People still mocking COD because they think it's cool? LOL.

Immature.

[ambientFLIER]

ZOMG, Infinity Ward like sucks and stuff!! Am I cool now? :P

[edhe]

In your own mind!

[DoomeDx]

Mehh CoD Patches are never really that intresting.

Dont get me wrong, i know that patches should FIX things, but most developers also add new things or change some things in terms of gameplay..CoD doesnt do that. It only fixes some things which are pretty much not noticable

[Dart89]

" It only fixes some things which are pretty much not noticable.
On the other end it always breaks something else.

[-Alpha]

Did you read the patch notes? This is about gameplay tweaks. I doubt you guys enjoy COD so I really don't understand the constant negativity towards it. You're seriously complaining about them not "adding" new gameplay things? Who does that?

[DoomeDx]

I played BO at the friends house, and i enjoyed it. Just not worth my 60 bucks.

So dont say im just pushing out negativity towards the Call of Duty genre.

The thing is, all the patches of the games i have, i was always antipated for the new patch (Killzone, GT5, Bad Company 2, etc etc).

Whenever i saw the changelog, i was like: ''Damn gotta start playing it again!''

The thing about Call of Duty is, that all the patches only change unimportant things..Like the grip on the AK-74u. What the hell? No one complained about that.

How about them fixing all the technical issues on the PS3 instead of pumping out small patches every 3 - 4 weeks.

[-Alpha]

Actually, the AK74u has been complained about a lot. If you read these notes you'd see their justification: way overused and easy to perfect because of how easy it resets after kick. You've only played at a friend's house so I don't see how you would know otherwise. Additionally you claim not to be excited about a patch but why would you when you don't even own the game? I don't get the criticism here. Last patch they changed the way snipers play, and now they are considering tweaks for some of the gameplay. Why does it have to be so "interesting"?

Also, the PS3 version runs fine for the most part-- yes there are more issues with it, but they HAVE been releasing patches and hotfixes. It's not like they haven't.

[King-Leonidas]

``You're seriously complaining about them not "adding" new gameplay things? Who does that?´´

Polyphony Digital does it.

[NeloAnjelo]

The Negativity towards COD was earned... Based on the number of glitches, the patches to "fix" these and unbalanced gameplay... for a game that is breaking records, it sure is broken...

Secondly there has been 4 CODs in 4 years, with not much improvement. I feel is the 1 year dev time. What can they fix or improve upon? No wonder the games are riddled with problems. Secondly, for the biggest selling game, gameplay on one of the major console is problematic at best. Single player is also lack luster. Yet the game retails at a higher price and was the first to charge $15. for maps. This, IMO is cosumer milking.

MW3 2011 release? Who knows. I hope not. Then maybe I'll consider getting it. I juse see the same every year.

Don't worry I feel the same about sport games.

[SeanScythe]

Yah! Lets fix a gun that has nothing wrong with it, while not fixing things that people are complaining about.

[Takoulya]

You're quite stupid if you think the AK-74u has nothing wrong with it. It's the cheapest gun in the game. An SMG with no recoil and Assault Rifle range.

[SJPFTW]

look at the damage charts and see that it doesnt have assault rifle range, it doesnt even have assault rifle damage. If your getting outgunned by an smg at distance thats cuz you suck

http://denkirson.xanga.com/...

[edhe]

You mean the most awesome.

AK74u + rapid fire on a running class = killfest.

*edit - and if you hate that class? load up a shotgun class and kill him faster.. or a spectre with rapid fire.

[SeanScythe]

Sounds like a personal problem, and you must suck to just stand there to be killed by that gun at over 50ft. It's for close range quit being a baby and learn to play.

[antz1104]

An experienced player can use the AK47u all the way thru and OWN players using the commando or the G11. Takoulya is right, to some extent. I just think its a great gun that they offer it too early in the SMG ranking. Saying "he must suck" is just a crap, cop out arguement.

Personally I think the person that downs someone should get the kill, thats awesome. IDK how many times I've done that and got the assist.

[KillerBBs]

The tiny little arrow via bow from Rambo does more damage than the rockets... but less splash. Thanks Trayack for a steady flow of not thinking things out! just like the Ak47u and the RC.

Thanks for the Damage chart SJPFTW.

PS. I have two clips of me shooting someone directly with the rockets and it some how goes right though the individual with out hurting them... exploding inches away. (no jacket)

This game is awesome if it work correctly. But since it doesn't... I'll put it right next to Gears. Cool games that suck and don't work!

[KaiokenKid]

Did they ever fix that stuff some people were bitching about on the PS3 version?

[mightyboot]

yes in their next CoD

[Jac5al]

Yes they did, but there are still some issues.

[KaiokenKid]

Well, like i said in a few threads on this, I know three people that play this alot on PS3 that never really complained. I know this isnt indicative of the situation, im just saying I have trouble believing its really that broken for most people.

[BeaArthur]

No the PS3 version still has frequent issues. To sum it up, it's nearly impossible for you to stay in the same room for more than 4 rounds. The servers for this game are laughable on the PS3.

[KaiokenKid]

Again, I dont think thats how it is for everybody because I know a good number of people who never complain about that. So while it might be a issue, how wide spread is it?

[BeaArthur]

Doesn't matter how wide spread it is because it's more than 1 or 2 people suffering from the same problems. The game has been out for 2 months and still doesn't perform like any "AAA" game should on day 1. I didn't even mention the infinite loading glitch which I know for a fact many people are suffering from and has been directly addressed by Treyarch in their forums...they're "working on it". This game is garbage. When running correctly it's great but that doesn't happen the majority of the time.

[mightyboot]

"Second Chance user can only be revived once"

per match?

[oddexarcadia]

I know he didn't specify, though I am assuming they are making it so it is one pick up per spawn.

[mightyboot]

I assumed already was that way!

Im not getting the game without a proper fix.

[Dart89]

Don't bother getting it at all.

[oddexarcadia]

Though these fixes are indeed needed, I believe there are bigger problems than the AK74u's grip and how many times a Second Chance user can be picked up.

As a PS3 player, I think they need to turn their resources from game balancing to technical issues plaguing the PS3. Frame rates mainly. As far as I know, Treyarch has yet to even acknowledge that there are frame rate issues for PS3 players. Besides that, there are the hard lock ups, the connectivity, and hit detection.

These updates to game balancing would be welcomed if us PS3 players didn't have such a hard time playing this game.

[RyuCloudStrife]

but as stated above me ^^^^

As a PS3 player, I think they need to turn their resources from game balancing to technical issues plaguing the PS3. Frame rates mainly. As far as I know, Treyarch has yet to even acknowledge that there are frame rate issues for PS3 players. Besides that, there are the hard lock ups, the connectivity, and hit detection.

those are more important........

[DeFFeR]

@Bill Nye...

I'm going to be "that guy" and take my share of disagrees...

that's what the "agree" button is for

[NeloAnjelo]

Just stop getting COD games. This isnt the first COD to do this. And its not the first broken COD either... MW2 burned me enough. I'm done with COD.

[Arup02]

Still, i think MW2 multiplayer is more fun.

[Joe Bomb]

It is more fun. Already traded in Black Ops and will only buy a CoD if its made by IW from now on. WaW and BO sucked.

[Commander_TK]

Hell no. MW2 is infested with camping little bitches.

[Rageanitus]

honestly i dont understand why the h8 for this game, it really isnt that bad, imo the best cod was cod 2 and modern warefare 1; but blackops was really not bad

[Prototype]

A lot of the hate is from the fact that the series is getting milked every year; its almost like people are paying full price for whats considered DLC.

Another point is how glitchy/buggy the game is on the ps3 version; its almost like they made the 360 version then ported to ps3 with a few minor changes.

[Gamer_Z]

what version of BO are you playing? Because I found the PS3 version of Black Ops to be unplayable, for me anyways. It had soo many issues that I ended up just selling it! my brother just got BO on his xbox and I have to say it's way better on the xbox the graphics look better, textures don't look washed out like in the ps3 version, the hit detect actualy hits and the frame rate is better. It just plays and looks better on the xbox which really suck because I hate paying for xbox live (-_-) I don't get why they couldn't get the game too look and play the same on both consoles they have the money and the people to do it. I think they made it that way on purpose so you would be forced to buy it on the xbox and pay the extra $10 for xbox live that they get a cut of, makes sense if you think about it.

[floetry101]

Now these are some very logical changes. The game has been running extremely well on both my ps3 and 360. I realise they can't eliminate Second Chance completely, but if they at least let me get the kill points for bringing a player down, i'll be content.

EDIT: Just a reply to oddexarcadia. The framerate problem isn't only limited to PS3 I've found, it's also a problem on the 360. Granted, at this stage it isn't as bad as the PS3 framerate, but it's distracting enough that it brings the experience down. I don't think it's the most important problem at this stage, as it only affects me irregularly. Second Chance annoys me far more frequently.

[oddexarcadia]

I'm sure the 360 does have some framerate issues. I can't say, I don't have it for the 360.

What I do know is, the average frame rate for the PS3 is about 45fps. Not to mention the frame tears. Frame tearing on the PS3 there is a 10% to 20% tear rate.

Add in the other problems that the PS3 players are having, and you end up with a very clunky, port that does not access the full capability of the PS3.

While I agree that Second Chance creates a balance problem, I personally believe that a games technical issues should out weigh balance issues. If I am trying to play at 12-15fps, I don't care whether I get the kill points for dropping a Second Chance user.

[EXID]

i got knifed as i dropped a guy into second chance. not sure if it was lag or not, but i was pretty sure i saw the animation for him dropping and being on his back in mid-air while i was knifed. whatever really happened, i was pissed lol and yeah, they really need to nerf that effing rc-car. either make it slower, weaker, have less radius, and/or make it a 4-5 kill streak reward. SOMETHING. full credit going to the person who drops a second chance user is a good idea too.

[rlm41]

I would love to be able to play the Wager match's gametypes offline! I don't see why we can't play One in The Chamber, Sticks and Stones etc. offline for practice and fun in splitscreen if we don't have Live etc.

[MonopolyRSV]

They finally listened to Elpresador I see.

[Pillage05]

"We are considering giving full kill credit to the guy who drops someone in Second Chance and Assist credit for someone who finishes them off."
-oh hell yes, I've felt it should be this way from the first time I saw the perk.

"Forum users like to complain about the "invulnerability period" when someone is dropping. I went through the script over and over again. At least in script, nothing like this exists.."
- I swear you can put like 5 bullets in the guy during the animation of dropping to the ground, but can't actually kill them until they're on the ground. Could just be lag that makes it feel that way.

[DeFFeR]

Pillage - did you read his post? It's not in the script - it's in the code. From the actual forum post (not the quote on the blog...):

"- Forum users like to complain about the "invulnerability period" when someone is dropping. I found where this happens. It's in code and not script which is why I didn't see it originally. We need to think about this one clearly. I went through the revision history. Any attempts to remove the "0.5" seconds of invulnerability mean the guy with Second Chance will likely never be given his Second Chance. Removal of this entirely will all but remove the perk from the game (which I know many of you would prefer in the first place, but it's something we are not yet ready to do). This "0.5" seconds is consistent with the previous games and is not any longer or shorter."

So, it's in the code, and not in the script. The 0.5 seconds IS legit invulnerability, and it was on purpose. It sucks, but most perks have some upside/downside depending on what side of the coin you're on.

Lastly - this blog was pretty lame, quoting some but not all of the thread. I hate "partial" quoters - quote it all or don't quote it. Actually, we could have just been linked to the thread itself.

[davidmccue]

The forum post was amended after it was revealed on Gamer4eva, it has now been updated, sorry for any confussion this may have caused.

[BI0RAPTOR]

@Pillage05

"We are considering giving full kill credit to the guy who drops someone in Second Chance and Assist credit for someone who finishes them off."
-oh hell yes, I've felt it should be this way from the first time I saw the perk".

my thought`s also.Would have thought this should have been the norm anyway.

[SGT_R4yL]

i dont know why people are complainin about the AK74U! its nowhere near as overpowered as it was in cod4 n its nowhere near as overpowered as the MP40 in W@W or the fuckin UMP45 in MW2 FACT. people who suck at it just like to complain

[lefty burns]

I think they have done a pretty good job of fixing things with their patches thus far. I also think they should leave the AK74U alone.

[MeNoRasta]

Sounds good but when is this patch released?

[Gamer_Z]

At least they are fixing it

[Soldierone]

Thank you! Perhaps all the complaining is finally making them do their job for once. And thank you for finally fixing common sense with the stupid last stand crap. I always hated when I died, then someone takes my kill.

[Jac5al]

They fixed most of the issues on the ps3 version of Bops. Only things that really need to be address right now are the random disconnects, host migration could use more work, framerate issue in zombies, and a couple other small issues.