For almost 2 years, I have visited N4G for the latest video game news and content (Even if half of the submitted articles are garbage). For 2 years, I pretty much just ignored the goofy inconsistencies and bias from the moderators. But when I was reduced to 2 bubbles in a few days for posts that HARDLY deserved what moderators marked them for, I felt that I could no longer hold my tongue.
Frankly, I don't care about my bubbles; it's the ridiculous reasons why they were taken that strike me.
Bubble #5: Labeled as "Trolling" - An article about Kids and Kinect. In a nut shell, I said that children have incredibly low standards, and I was sick of seeing people who were NOT the target audience, get so touchy in defending it. Unfortunately, I do not have the link to this one.
Bubble #4: ( http://n4g.com/news/661871/... ) Labeled as "Trolling" - I mentioned that it was silly that a first party was using a third party to find these numbers, and I went on to call out Microsoft's inconsistency in reporting sales numbers.
Bubble #3 - ( http://n4g.com/news/662462/... ) Labeled as....."Spam"?! - This one absolutely disturbs me. I was labeled as spamming for saying that Xcom was not an Xbox 360 exclusive, as the site had claimed. I'd love to the meet the guy who could justify calling that spam.
I would like to stress that N4G Moderators control bubbles, not the community. Every time you hit a bubble, you are simply making a suggestion. I have an image which will make this quite clear (See comment 1....it didn't seem to have posted here). In it, the mods choose to give a "well said" to someone that is supporting Kotaku completely falsifying information, while a post with unanimous agreement goes unacknowledged
(43 agrees, 0 disagrees!).
Those of you who squabble about which fanboy "owns" N4G needs to change their perspective. N4G is controlled by the moderators, who are absolutely not always fair in their judgments, even perhaps, to the point of foul play.
Alan Wake, from Max Payne and Control creator Remedy, is a horror classic, prompting one player to buy 4,000 copies that don’t even work.
Kind of a goody story...
On a serious note, that is why I try activating gift cards asap. It's happened to me where the store didnt scan it right where the card was unusuable. Happened at Wally World.
Usually most of those redemption card have an expiry date on them. If they expired all buyer did was buy recycled paper. And some of those codes are country locked to certain countries. I buy a card from the States I can't use it in Canada.
UKIE published its latest Consumer Market Valuation Report, showing that the UK games market was worth £7.82 billion in 2023, a 4.4% increase compared to 2022's revised total of £7.49 billion.
Final Fantasy is a long running series at this point — it's easily one of the most storied franchises in gaming. But when you're up to the sixteenth mainline entry, you must start wondering whether fresh installments still have the power to pull new players in. Indeed, audience growth will be an important metric for the suits upstairs at Square Enix.
Pretty much. It was barely an rpg. Sorry if I like a little rpg in my final fantasy games.
I really hope this doesn’t mean they are going to continue to streamline the games even more going forward
It didn’t even have element weakness and the like during battles. A game with element based Eikons you use in combat and they didn’t include any elemental strategic tactics
I expected fire to burn grassy enemies. That didn't happen.
I also expected to see a "we have to go there!" moment in a cutscene, and have to travel there myself. FFXVI instead loaded the map to one selectable map marker and the next cutscene loaded to us there.
Disappointing as an RPG. Disappointing as even being "open area". I'll maintain that this game would've been best served as a more linear DMC-style experience than what we got, because the core of the combat and story were so great.
Foxtrot
I can't imagine they'd try and go back to a turn based game to see if younger fans would like it. They've really never even tried though. Hell my 13 year old loves turn based jrpgs
I'll always play them because I've played every one, but if 17 goes in the same direction I'm not excited any more. It just wasn't a Final Fantasy game, just a decent action RPG. Thankfully Rebirth had everything that was missing in it.
I'm an old fan who's played literally every FF game (excluding 2) and I *loved* FF16.
I genuinely struggle to understand the mindset of people are who get weird and territorial over JRPG franchises. I think as a whole we should be encouraging developers to try new things. We're the old guard - what we want to see in a game is going to become increasingly irrelevant with time so we gotta change the way we think about this stuff.
Classic franchises thrive on their familiarity. While they can introduce new ideas, it's crucial that these innovations stay true to the essence of the franchise. Otherwise, it might be more appropriate to develop a new franchise or spinoff.
And that's where FFXVI sort of drops the ball for many. It doesn't offer much to old Final Fantasy fans. Honestly, I loved the game, but I feel it might have worked better as a spinoff, a new franchise, or even a reimagination of another classic series like Musashi or Dewprism.
I agree. FF games have always been about evolving when it comes to the gameplay mechanics. Big budget FF games like FFXVI with realistic graphics just won't sit too well with turnbase gameplay. The ones complaining are the old fans that are stuck in a rut or still stuck in the 90s style of gameplay.
It didn't feel rpgish at all. It's not a territorial issue with everyone.
Elda
As much as I like turn based and would prefer that. If that's my only issue with ff16 then why am I loving rebirth, and remake. Truth is to me 16 just blew. Dark, dull, missing so much actual ff stuff, elemental damage non existence. It lacked to much of anything rpg like.
I get innovation but ff16 really didn't innovate anything. They just gave us a mainline title of a straight action game with lite rpg builds.
Sounds exactly what Tales did with Arise. I enjoyed FF16 more than FF13 and FF15 personally. I just hope the next mainline entry Yoshida makes is more party RPG based.
I enjoyed the game but I would like them to try making a turn based FF. It’s been too long. Even if it was a spin-off that would be fine.
For me the Bravely Default series is more Final Fantasy than current Final Fantasy. Since it started its development as a FF spinoff, it even keeps some FF stuff like magic names (Fire/Fira/Firaga etc.).
Unfortunately it doesn't sell that well and we can't be sure Square will keep making them, but I hope they do.
I wish they'd at least take the chance. It'll sell off name alone. Hell at this point try and add both and let it be an option.
"This doesn’t mean that all future Final Fantasy games will take a similar direction to Final Fantasy 16,"
Here is a quote from the article to keep the XVI haters easy .
I enjoyed the game for what it was. What the team wanted to make. And i hadn't enjoyed a mainline FF game like i did XVI since X. Not counting Remake. People say it isn't an JRPG but it's pretty much Kingdom Hearts gameplay wise.
I decided to play some Arcade mode in XVI to get ready for the DLC after 220 hours of Rebirth and i still love the gameplay.
Can't wait for the DLC to hit in less than a week and see how crazy the Leviathan fight will be.
The image didn't seem to have posted, so here it is.
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This is a plea to both N4G and its community. Something is not right about how things are done, and it needs correcting.
Thank you.
It's not foul play. The site admins have hired people from both sides to moderate which really wasn't a good decision from the start. But for the most part, they balance each other out.
The problem is there aren't enough mods to quickly dispatch the issues that arise. It's very simple, but as of now they only get to a reported story/user when they finish with everything else.
I also want to know why they allow trolls to have multiple accounts and not ban them, I mean..couldn' they just blacklist their IP adresses for this site???
Unless the mods themselves troll around cause they have no life.......what the hell is the point of bashing MS, Sony, Nintendo, or any other game company?? You still get to play games and it doesn't matter if others don't like them or not, unless they flat out lie like Kotaku or give unfair comparisons (which always show up on this site).
Why the hell do you think I lost my bubble? Haha, for trolling? Well, if trolling is saying, and I quote, "Microsoft also uses shipping numbers as an excuse for sales numbers. It's what companies do to try to show everyone that the public would rather have them over someone else. It's just an old corporate trick and I'm not surprised to see either Microsoft or Sony doing this", then take my damn bubble away. But that's the truth, so why the hell am I missing a bubble?
And THAT'S why I don't comment on a lot of things anymore unless I have a very strong viewpoint on it. The vast majority of this site does not believe in any opinion but their own and not having their opinion is trolling, SPAM, offensive, off topic, immature, a personal attack, and a message chuck-full of bad language. So, yes, I only really go here for the user blogs and reviews and the news itself, not the "opinion pieces" that are the biggest starters of flamebait I've ever seen.
Do I get a well said bubble for that, moderators? What, you don't like that I called this site broken? Oh, you're gonna bubble me down? Thanks (you bastards)!
For all the trolling and name calling I've seen in this place, what I lost a bubble for today was pretty harsh in my book. What do you guys think?
In a Forza article, a fan requests:
"implement weather,night driving,buggaty veyron super sport"
My reply
"Theres already a game that has that stuff. Jus saying."
Slightly cheeky maybe. Trolling? No way.
If I said, Killzone needs plasma rifles, floaty physics and blocky armour and someone said try Halo, I wouldnt be upset. And I wouldnt consider it trolling.
Far worse gets said everyday.
Its hard as hell to build up those bubbles, but easy as to lose them. I got up to 9 once, took about a year, then they change the system, I when back to 3 and now cant get over 5 again. Hell I'm lucky to have 5.
And truth be told, I dont need 5 remarks on everythread, I dont need to argue back and forth like some of these guys. I say my piece, respond to the replys and thats usually it, but thats not the point.
I just want some CONSISTANCEY so I know what will get me in trouble and what wont. People full on drop F bombs in here now and nothing happens. I suggest a game that sound exactly like the one someones describing and its a bubble losing offence.
What do you want from me N4G?