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Gamespot: 1 hour of Kinect footage

Join Gamespot as they take a look at six of the games coming out for Kinect at launch.

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Wizziokid4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

they have really improved on the delay since E3 but sadly it's still present, I don't think Kinect will ever be 1:1.

I still think I would rather wait then pick it up at launch, because 1 I just got Move and 2 the games still aren't good enough.

SMW4923d ago

Nor is move, or the wii, or a dual shock controller. There is always some inherent lag in any digital input.

I think kinect looks funtional now, which honestly suprises me. Looks to have the same kind of latency as Move, which MS need to be congratulated for. From what ive seen though of the software, the Move has kinect beat. Ill admit dance central looks trendy and will probably sell out the wazoo, and kinectimals looks to absolutely blow Eyepet out of the water. But Rally ball, table tennis, etc all look like they need some form of control device. Move definately seems to have the upper hand as far as precision, where as Kinects ability to track your body does have its benefits.

Pedantic914923d ago

If anything, the Move is the closest one towards 1:1, not saying it's perfect, just really close.

Pennywise4923d ago

You posted an hour ago, but have the ramblings of a drunken man. lol.

Did you watch the video? Did you see him throwing the ball and nothing happening? It will blow eyepet alright...

Its all too kiddy, casual, and not accurate for me. I am happy for all of you kids that are excited for this thing... you guys and girls enjoy it. MS has been generous enough to bring you this miraculous piece of hardware.

Mr_Bun4923d ago

Kinect is having lag/response issues with games that are about as powerful as those found on Nintendo's Gamecube....how do you think it will behave with games that weren't thrown together overnight (assuming MS decides to ever go that route)?

Lifendz4923d ago

I'm just too self-conscious to get into this stuff. But Kinect will probably prolong the lifespan of the 360 by a few years.

BrianG4923d ago

Just so you guys know 1:1 is different than no lag.

1:1 means your actions are mimicked exactly on screen as you do them, which the closest thing to that right now is Move which shows some good examples of 1:1 with sports champions.

Lag is a different monster. It is hard to eliminate lag, even the Dualshock and Xbox controller have lag.

bananlol4923d ago

You people spek of lag but do you realize that even the best computer mmouse has lag, even the fucking light has lag.

visualb4923d ago

I think they mean RECOGNIZABLE lag...as in, noticeable, present, obvious, can be seen, etc...

light, mouse, and most controllers DON'T have that type of lag, but you are correct...

commodore644923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

listen to all you geeks bicker about lag.

Of course there is lag.
LCD screens have inbuilt lag.
Controllers have lag
Even the vaunted PS move has lag and shows significant problems with 1:1 tracking:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

What none of you guys acknowledge was that those gamespot dudes were feeling seriously awkward in front of the camera at the beginning, yet by the end they were joking and laughing and having fun in that dance game.

Honestly, did we expect a roomful of 30+ year old gamer dudes to actually have fun dancing in front of their peers, let alone dancing in front of a camera for the entire internet to see?
Strangely enough, they DID have fun.
That's hard to fake.

I gotta ask all the haters, if these awkward geeks from gamespot can overcome their shy inhibitons and enjoy themselves with kinect, then what's stopping you?

Get off the couch, drop the negativity and give it a go.
Who knows, you might have fun?

After you've had some fun, you can go back to your hardcore games.
Nothing wrong with that, is there?

Oner4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

LMFAO! Look at the damage control and spin by commodore64 showing an OLD video from The Fight: Lights Out which was known to be a GESTURE BASED title back then and NOT a 1:1 title like Sports Champions or the like.

The PS Move ITSELF is 1:1 accurate IF the dev makes software to utilize it properly. The makers of The Fight: Lights Out were NOT using the accuracy of the PS Moves 1:1 in that video. So that means it's not the fault of the PS Move ~ but the devs themselves.

If the PS Move has been PROVEN/SHOWN to do 1:1 then your video just shows the shortcomings of that particular game by that particular dev. Nothing more. Nothing Less. If you cannot understand that then you are simply ignorantly trolling...which is exactly what you are doing.

ryuzu4923d ago

So let's be generous, they had 1 hour of fun.

Cost? $150 for Kinect, $60 for game.

Vanquish was getting slated a couple of days ago for only...GASP.... 6 hours of fun at only $60 (or less if you buy online).

r.

BrianG4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

@ Commodore

The game you showed for move, the Fight Lights Out, is gesture based last I heard, so it is not really tracking your motion for what it is. So its not really fair to say that Move in general has problems with 1:1 purely based off that game.

A better example of a game tracking exactly what your doing is Sports Champions, Tumble, etc. Games that are supposed to mimic your exact movements.

I for one was honestly disappointed with the Fight, thought it would do what I did, but oh well.

THE MAX SPEED 214923d ago

This is actually working pretty well. Alot of trolls are trolling about the lags in kinect but all montion gaming as lags. I was watching Mr.Net the other day on TV and they were reviewing Move and it had Lags , Wii always had lags aswell. Lag Free motion gaming isnt for anytime soon.

The Maxx4923d ago

I have Sports Champions and as good and accurate as it is, it is NOT 1:1

Play ping pong and you will see. When the AI smashes the ball at you, your reaction is much much faster than that of the paddle on screen.

BrianG4923d ago

@ Max

Your talking about lag, not 1:1 motion tracking. They are different

InTheKnow4923d ago

...it looks great as always. It might not have games the so called hard core gamer will possibly want but the fun factor is there and the casuals will eat it up. When you see people playing Kinect it's smiles for everyone. M$ has ANOTHER winner on there hands...well done M$.

The 4 gb bundle will sell out BEFORE the Kinect sensor does...watch and see...massive hit for the xbox crew this holiday.

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iMad4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

Great, just great....for kinds

and later next year for hardcore gamers i hope...as MS promises..and i beleive them. they promised to reduce lag and they did.

will buy then.

SMW4923d ago

ill get it if they do manage to make some kind of real games for it that work well, and when the price drops. Significantly. Alot.

Mike134nl4923d ago

For some reason I want to buy it after seeing this video even if there aren't any real games for it. Nice to have for when friends come over too visit for a drink.

hennessey864923d ago

is minimal now so lets see what the trolls think of next

JokesOnYou4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

I just watched the vid, wow looks pretty responsive to me, even the commentators were impressed with the controls. I did notice a hiccup or two but same with move and wii. Also this is great because it shows tons of gameplay and dispells the BS that micro was trying to hide kinect. This vid to me is better than any review, gamers interested in kinect get to see it in action for themselves. The games are really casual I definitely agree with everyone who wants more core games but I'm in, I like the dashboard menu's interaction. I want to try the chat feature for myself, alway setup something with my cuz and nephews.

JOY

visualb4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

where are they? green screen? where's kinect? whats up with the weird design and location? why aren't they in a normal room?

not to mention it spends about half the video filming the guys, not the screen? hiding something?

i dno...way too editied and way too produced =|

working better, stil lots of glitches, problems and lag though -_- lets hope it all gets fixed up by the time its released.

Strikepackage Bravo4923d ago

they explain all that in the beginning of the video, geez.

CYCLEGAMER4923d ago

No matter how good Kinect gets, people on N4G are always going to find a way to hate. Truth is that they are afraid of Kinect. I have the Move (I like it) with all of the available games for it, and I can tell you first hand that it is not as accurate and precise as people on this site try to make it out to be, which is how I know people here are bias. Even though the graphics are better, and the tech is more advanced, it still FEELS like the Wii while using the motion plus.

I will get the Kinect, mainly for the voice commands and navigation tools, the games will just be a plus for me until better games come out, but as of now I want the Fitness Evolved game and Kinect Sports.

DiScOPiMp4923d ago

I have Move for ma PS3 and it's very accurate with the move controller, but my 4 year old plays eyepet and the camera really struggles with all the hand gestures you need to do.. So move isn't perfect either! I have Kinect preordered and kinectimals as my daughter is going crazy for the tiger.. Lol

CYCLEGAMER4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

Yes I agree it is accurate but again, not as accurate precise and lag free as people on this site claim it to be. IMO the only game that shows the best of what Move has to offer is Tumble, and even that has a little bit of delay when you try to move quickly.

I just wish folks would enjoy video games instead of trying to make a bias argument or fight over nothing. If you don't like the the game or motion control then don't buy it.

I dislike Final Fantasy games and any game that plays like it, but that doesn't mean that I am going to try to find Final Fantasy articles and bash it in hope that it fails, its pointless. People are still going to faithfully buy it and enjoy it.

XactGamer4923d ago

In before the.... nevermind

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Zir04923d ago

Didn't look like there was a single glitch throughout, looks like they finally got all the kinks worked out. For "shovelware" the production values and art style are excellent.

rekof4923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

YES !!!
KINECT!!

sorry but ps-eye alone works better,..

-IronMan-4923d ago

No thanks whoever buys this need their head examine. In my honest opinion.

Wizziokid4923d ago

isn't it there choice and all down to opinion?

karl4923d ago

there is a choice and opinions.. but u cant possibly think as a true gamer that this thing is worth it..

if u are housewife or four year old kid then my bad.. u are allowed to have and opinion, and kinect

alb18994923d ago (Edited 4923d ago )

karl you just a bad or shy of your self as a dancer thats why is not fun for you!!!
Free your mind and enjoy things without think what people are saying!!
don't take it seriously...lol!
I'm 33 years old and have a wive and two kids and also have been playing since i was 6, sega master system, nintendo, neo geo, Atari, Genesis, super nintendo, turbo graphic, Jaleco, ps1,2,3, xbox, 360 and wii so i have some experience.
Kinect is fun!

SantistaUSA4923d ago

I laugh when people say "if you a true gamer" you shouldn't been enjoying Kinect! A true gamer just enjoy games, that's it! There's plenty of games out there for every body to enjoy, just stop hating just because you don't think is fun.

karl4923d ago

my bad.. ok i admit it... it can be fun

i still believe though that u guys are going to be stuck with the same games for years and years to come...
i dont see how variety can be made for this device.. call me crazy but i think this is being advertised as something it isnt..
maybe me saying "u cant enjoy it if u are a true gamer" was to much.. but let me say as a hardcore gamer u cant enjoy it..

then again everyone has a hardcore and casual side over games... but if as hardcore gamer i need to look at this.. i dont see anything that interest me..
now as a casual maybe i see my self with my little sister or my girlfriend playing some games .. but honestly i prefer what move's got to offer over this..

when i play it maybe ill change my mind..

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The Best Selling Xbox 360 Games of all Time

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Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia818d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog818d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69818d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming818d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79818d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember817d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog818d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop818d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic817d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop817d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic817d ago (Edited 817d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10818d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar818d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10818d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell818d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10818d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72818d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming818d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog818d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming818d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming818d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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