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Sony struggles to meet Playstation Move Demand in Europe

The Sony Playstation Move motion controller is on the market since last month. In Europe the Move controller for the PS3 is apparently a big hit. According to German newspaper Die Welt, Sony has sold already 1.5 million Move controllers in Europe and that the company struggles to keep the controller in stock at retailers.

Sony has already upped the production capacity for the Move controller. A quick check shows that it is not that difficult to find a Playstation Move controller in stock. Amazon UK has even a sale on the Playstation Move Starter Pack with 17% savings. The supply situation seems to be more tight in Germany. Amazon DE has mostly 3rd party offers for the Playstation Move accessories.

blackburn54932d ago

Wow. Looks like Sony underestimated Move's popularity. Sony you should have more confidence in your hardware. It was always the best and still is. You don't even need celebrates to tell us how good Move is. We already know.

RetroReborn4932d ago

i have to admit, the move is shit hot, i still cant get over how precise it is, they definatly done a bang up job.

nix4931d ago

i took the game to my office.. and they all went ape shit! they were all amazed! and they kept asking "do you have a shooting game?" obviously, i didn't except that Resident Evil 5 (which is still a pain in the ass because of it's 'stand and shoot' mechanism.)

jneul4931d ago

no with re5 you can be lazy and play it on the couch as long as you point your move at the camera to start with you are fine!!

ImpartialMan4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

lol. sale below expectation my ass.

nix4931d ago

@jneul: yeah... that part is fine. and no body aches! he he he...

but i wish it was as 'quick' as Uncharted games.. you know. at least i should be able to run n gun.

vsr4931d ago

What will happen to $150 kinect in USA ?

DatNJDom814931d ago

I think kinect will sell great in america. americans love their defective products, hence 360 being in first place.

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SIX4931d ago

Can't find stand alone controllers here in Canada either. Some starter bundles left and like a billion sub controllers lol.

ABizzel14931d ago

My guess is 3 million worldwide by the end of October which isn't even the holiday season and it's the same goal MS set for Kinect. MS should be able to do the same since it'll be holiday 2010 by then.

4Sh0w4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

Well its sort of strange, I would expect a motion control accessory to have similiar sales results regardless of the region, sort of like the wii, I don't recall it selling well in Euro but low in the US or vice versa, at times it was up big in Japan depending on a big wii release but it seems move is doing quite a bit better in Euro compared to America if you believe Pachter and signs like sony not announcing sales numbers after NPD, maybe under 500k in the US I believe was the estimate. Thats actually not that bad though for a new peripheral.

I know Pachter's a terrible psychic but he generally is pretty good at analyzing sales data after the fact so with him saying moves sales at least in the US didn't meet expectations its seems a bit iffy to me but then again sony's most likely considering every individual move controller as a "unit" sold, which makes sense from their point of view since each controller is actually another sale but you'd think at least a significant percentage of those 1.5mil are 1 customer buying a 2nd controller for 1 household. Well either way hopefully both move and kinect will be successful, healthy competition is good for gamers.

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btk4932d ago

I don't think Sony underestimated the demand. Looking at the sales it looks asif they launched with at least a 2 million initial shipment while ramping up production for the holiday season. The lack of advertising was intentional as they are still ramping up production. Expect lots of advertising middle November onwards.

Christopher4931d ago

The question is why they undercut the U.S. market by so much. Only half a million in first few weeks and they just now started getting some extra stock, whereas Europe had enough to supply 1.5m total sales.

ECM0NEY4931d ago

Because we are FPS lovers and Sony knows this. I dont have a single friend picking up Move or Kinect.

SuperM4931d ago

First of all there are more PS3s in europe so naturally it will sell more in europe. Secondly, sonys motion control games and sonys more casual games have always been popular in europe. Not so much in the US.

EasilyTheBest4932d ago

..they are holding back stock like Microsoft are doing with Kinect tho right?

Christopher4931d ago

I wouldn't put it past them. In fact, they may be holding back until they start their partnership with Coca Cola and whomever else they will be working with to promote Move.

Also, note how Kinect will now be partnered with Pepsi for similar advertisement. I feel really sorry for Sony. They were so proud to get the partnership and then Microsoft goes and does that plus the rest of the partnerships included in their half a billion dollar advertising plans for this Holiday season. Sony doesn't stand a chance.

Lyr1c4931d ago

Man....I feel bad for Sony too.....They have so many exclusives set to release in 2011...How can they stand pulling in all that money?

They should be ashamed......Tree killers....Making all that paper.....

RememberThe3574931d ago

MS is going to spend half a billion to sell what they expect to be 3 million Kinect units for holiday season. Sony is already on track to do that with much less advertising.

I wouldn't give Sony any pity, they know what they're doing.

aaron58294931d ago

they dont grow on trees.

gtamike4931d ago

paper comes from trees lol

Lyr1c4931d ago

Good way to make me feel stupid....Jerk-face :x

metsgaming4932d ago

Also they dont even get a game with the starter bundle, imagine how much more they could sell if they had the sports champions bundle. Europe has been a big market for the ps3 i dont understand why they wouldnt take full advantage by giving them the bundle the US gets. Europe would apprectiate it more imo but marketing they need to give deals to lesser markets to raise sales in that region.

Ilikegames764931d ago

not wasting their money on advertising in order to give us more awesome games. I still scratch my head how one company could spend $500 Million on advertising to fool the public on some hardware that was already done on the other console.

ElementX4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

So people believe Sony but when MS says demand is really high, it's false? Also, I'm not sure I truly believe 1.5 million have been sold. There are no official numbers for much of Europe, so it's basically hearsay.

jidery4931d ago

Sony has had no record of lieing since E3 2005, where as Microsoft and Aaron Greenburg lie every day.

Skynetone4931d ago

youll soon have your all singing, all dancing all lagging, piece of kinect soon

ElementX4931d ago

I own 360 and PS3. I will be buying Move next year when some good titles are available. I have no intention of buyhing Kinect at this point.

Apotheosize4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

I totally agree, Move selling around 500k was good for me, then they came out and said 1.5 million sold in Europe alone as well? That seems very fishy to me. I dont entirely doubt the numbers..but no one on N4G thought it would be at 2 million already, not even fanboys. Remember all the "slow burn" talk, the low spending Move on ads VS half a billion on Kinect, etc.. Who knows.. if it really is that high then colour me impressed. Sorcery will be all the better.

SuperM4931d ago

So since the highly educated people of N4G didnt expect it to be at 2 million then it has to be fishy right?

Apotheosize4931d ago

No not at all, I was just giving an example on how even die-hard fans never even thought it would sell 1.5million. Low ad spending, "word of mouth - try it and youll like it" was PS Moves strategy. They probably are counting indivudal move controllers sold, for games where it requires two perhaps?

Weaksauce11384931d ago

The demand for supported games maybe, I see them struggling

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar950d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal950d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein950d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH951d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS950d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721950d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever950d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar950d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics950d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos950d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils950d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein950d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr950d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721950d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard950d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever950d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal950d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal950d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH950d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin950d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290951d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo950d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC950d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy951d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa951d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins951d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos950d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever950d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC951d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever950d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen953d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad953d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007953d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia953d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992953d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992953d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad953d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex953d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992953d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic953d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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