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Ex EA Dev:"Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs""

An ex EA dev has blogged anonymously about why Warhammer Online failed and that " Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too…”

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NewsForMe4938d ago (Edited 4938d ago )

I was excited when I heard about this game. When I found out it was an MMO I was pissed. Just release a single player game, stop with the MMO BS. KotOR one and two were some of my favorite Xbox games. We need KotOR 3, Republic Commando 2 and Battlefront 3.

dreamtheater874937d ago

Good MMO's are wonderful experiences. Joining a guild, making friends, and taking on huge boss encounters together beats the hell out of any single player experience I've ever had. Even the brilliantly told KotOR games. Why not give Old Republic a chance when it's released (granted that Bioware deliver)? Or are you a console only gamer with no real MMO experience?

SlickShoes4937d ago

Just because you do not like MMO's does not mean there isnt a market for them. I personally love them and outside WoW there is very little worth playing now. Star Wars galaxies showed that there is a hunger for a decent star wars MMO, if bioware can deliver this then with an IP like star wars the game could stay live for well over a decade making them money whereas a single player game comes out once and thats it.

Jedi-Prospero4937d ago

Kotor 1 - best game ever made

Kotor 2 - was a cluster frack - poor frame rate and no ending, it was cut because of time constraints at launch. Terrible.

Kotor 3 - will be the new king. Mmos are the wave of the future. Get on the train or get left behind. I have an atari you can play if you can't see the truth of it.

NewsForMe4937d ago

I did play number two. It was a good game up until the ending. The framerate issues were bearable. I've played it multiple times, though not as many as the first.

Nac4937d ago

The MMO is not KotOR 3.

Tony P4937d ago

Play more games, padawan Prospero.

@News: I've played KoTOR2 many times as well. That's because it's a decent game. The cut content hurts it, yes. But what's there is fantastic imo. Especially the story, characters, and dialogue. I like those more than the original. It just operates on so many more levels and subtexts than KoTOR. No contest imo.

What KoTOR has going for it is completeness and polish. But KoTOR 2 is a much meatier (if incomplete) journey in practically every way.

I'd suggest, if you have the game for PC, getting the mods that restore the cut content.

Nac4936d ago

It really comes down to the the Grand Epic set on the Galactic stage(KotOR 1) versus the personal, deep quest(KotOR 2). If KotOR 1 is the iliad, KotOR 2 is certainly it's odyssey

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DirtyLary4937d ago

We all know its going to fail, it's not WOW.

Same scenario, everyone will flock to the new game, blast through and get ahead of the developers on end game content. People will get bored, trash talk the game and run back to WOW.

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Letros4938d ago

Lol this guy blames no marketing on WAR's failure? It had 1,000,000 subscribers at launch, then had no content, and Lich King came out a month later, it's no surprise it bombed. I played WAR its a good game, however not as good as what WoW + 4 years(at the time), and people just didn't stick with it.

Tony P4937d ago

Marketing is not the sole source of blame. The quotes taken from the blog don't summarize it. Read the blog itself.

S4NDM4N4938d ago

Letros, he blamed WAR failing on the actual directors. He said the marketing was shit too though

kasasensei4937d ago

"Ex EA Dev:"Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs"""
I think so too. Like an halo mmo, it's gonna be an epic fail.

Shepherd 2144937d ago

There are plenty of amazing games that would fail miserably if they were to be an MMO.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein43d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga43d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo43d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken43d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN43d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199242d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575643d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies43d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde42d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai43d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken43d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
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Eonjay42d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil51d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162450d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken50d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188150d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein50d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6951d ago (Edited 51d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33650d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6950d ago (Edited 50d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8851d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken50d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades50d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188151d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion51d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator50d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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