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Castlevania Lords of Shadow: Too much of a GoW 3 ripoff?

Idealo: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is an action game through and through, and anyone who has also played God of War 3 or Shadow of the Colossus will be very familiar with its gameplay."

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DelbertGrady4942d ago

You can't make a third person action game without stealing from God of War since God of War invented the genre.

NovusTerminus4942d ago (Edited 4942d ago )

Release Date: 2001

I'm sorry but what? GoW was far from the first, and did NOT create the genre.

AntoineDcoolette4941d ago

Since Delbert's comment went over so many peoples' heads...

http://dictionary.reference...

Newtype4941d ago

God of War perfected the genre.

GhettoBlasStarr4941d ago

Onimusha was 1st actually. Either way it was not god of war.

Jaces4941d ago

I'm thinking Dante's Inferno was more of a GoW rip than this by far.

MorganX4941d ago

Umm, Gauntlet, LOL. Everyone borrows from Pong, Choplifter, Space Invaders, and Zork. And Zaxxon, and Buck Rogers. Oh, wait, and of course Pitfall! who can forget Pitfall. Now, let's go over Intellivision's library.

wsoutlaw874941d ago

but god of war how ever, is simply the best. GOW3 was one of the best games ive played in a while

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deadreckoning6664941d ago (Edited 4941d ago )

God of War's quicktime events were inspired by The Mark of Kri. Also, DMC and Prince of Persia were said to be HUGE inspirations for Sony Santa Monica. I don't see how it "created" the genre.

Gue14941d ago (Edited 4941d ago )

Me neither but one thing is inspiration and another thing is when you completely rip-off another game like Castlevania did with GOW. At least Castlevania was a good game compared to Quantum, a rip-off of GeoW.

It seems like japanese devs are starting to rip-off western games to try to come out of their staleness.

tinybigman4941d ago (Edited 4941d ago )

i think i understand why the big name sites gave the game low scores. to me LoS probably doesnt feel like the traditional castlevania games, but more like GoW/DMC/SotC (with the giant bosses). for me i'm only a couple of chapters in so i can't give my personal opinion.

the game has gotten great scores for being a great game so i don't see why people are getting bent out of shape over comparisons or the scores.

man Mark of Kri was a awesome game i wish they made a sequel to it.

MiloGarret4941d ago

Mercurysteam (developer) is from Spain. They were supported by Kojima Productions but Mercurysteam are the people behind this game.

Konami (publisher) is from Japan.

Btw play it, it may seem like a GOW ripoff in the beginning, but as the game progresses so does the gameplay. It's a fantastic adventure/action game featuring the best boss battles I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing (except the Titans which suck). Highly recommended. Just don't expect to be led by the hand.

GuruStarr784941d ago

@TinyBigman:

They did make a sequel to Mark of the Kri, I think it was called Rise of the Kasai....

DigitalAnalog4941d ago

Really? I thought Shenmue popularized that concept. (If not Die Hard Arcade back in the Saturn days)

-End statement

tinybigman4941d ago

Really I don't even remember it. Was it as good as Kri?

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Eamon4941d ago

We need to keep remembering how some people were only just born this gen.

kewlkat0074941d ago

That's the problem with these fanboy youngins....

gamerdude1324941d ago

MercurySteam isn't a Japanese developer. They're Spanish. Kojima didn't even play a HUGE role in the game's production, most of it was from MerS.

Akagi4941d ago

How about, you know, READING the article?

MiloGarret4941d ago

I stopped after:

"Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is an action game through and through"

Because it's not, more of an adventure (with a heavy emphasis on action, yes) game really.

Method4941d ago

All of the good Castlevania games have always "stolen" from other franchises (Metroid for example)

JsonHenry4941d ago

GoW DID NOT INVENT THE 3rd PERSON ACTION GENRE!!

TheBand1t4941d ago

It feels similar to God of War, but it's different enough that it can stand on it's own two feet. Personally I like the combat and the art direction a bit more than GoW, and the main character is a lot more likeable.

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darkequitus4942d ago (Edited 4942d ago )

MDK was a TPS in 1997. I am sure there were ones before that.

nefertis4942d ago

@darkequitus Tomb Raider in 1996 came out before MDK.

PirateThom4941d ago

It has elements of God of War, but it's just not as blatant as, say, Dante's Inferno but to say it's not, shall we say, a "reference" to God of War is foolish at best.

And yes, we're all aware of Devil May Cry, but for me the hack and slash action genre kind of splits off in a few directions, God of War is a lot slower paced than Devil May Cry, for example.

MiloGarret4941d ago

To me there's three strands of action games.

The fast paced, technical action games ---> Ninja Gaiden
The deep action games, with incredibly deep combat systems ---> DMC, Bayonetta

And the slower, less complex, story-driven and action packed games ---> GOW, Dante's Inferno, and Castlevania: LOS.

Though I'd separate CastlV:LOS from the rest because I see it more as an adventure game than action game.

MisterNiwa4941d ago (Edited 4941d ago )

Excuse me, if you had even played a little bit of Lords Of Shadows, you wouldn't put Lords Of Shadows into the God of War / Dante's Inferno Genre.

The battle system of Lords Of Shadows is more like Ninja Gaiden than God Of War.
It combines unique elements to it's own aswell.

First play a game, then write something about it, anything else is dumb.

Baka-akaB4941d ago

LOS is more like Darksiders , not at all gow styled besides the fighting mechanics , but a zelda type adventure with lots of metroidvania content .

MiloGarret4941d ago

@MisterNiwa
Excuse me, some people simply shouldn't be allowed to talk. LOS battle system has NOTHING to do with Ninja Gaidens, absolutely NOTHING. I can't imagine a worse comparison.

@Baka-akaB
Exactly! That is a great way to describe it.

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JL2930163d ago

Both requels over 2 and 3? Clowns. Those are two of the most boring games I've ever played.

Snookies12163d ago

GoW 3 was amazing, but I personally hated just one thing. (This is on me alone, because I was dumb, lol.) I hated that you couldn't skip cutscenes on repeat playthroughs. I had to go back through the game a third time because I missed one trophy accidentally on my way to the platinum... The cutscenes were great the first go round, even the second... But the third was pretty agonizing.

Haven't played Ragnarok, but I still think GoW 4 is a wonderful game in its own right. Not sure how I would stack them up against each other honestly.

Monstieur163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

I don't consider the reboot part of the original series. The original series were high-skill games with combos and rewards for mixing things up.

solideagle162d ago

lol square, square and triangle is the only combo you needed. I have played all of them on the hardest difficulties...

Golfcoachh163d ago

Maybe I’m just old school but I just couldn’t get into the last two. Maybe it’s the slower action and more story telling but the original trilogy was by far my favorite.

Crows90163d ago

It's not that youre old school. They're different genres

JL2930162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

Me either, at all. It's just yap yap yap. They try to be a RPG's instead of being action games like they used to be.

Fluke_Skywalker163d ago

I'd put the two psp games over 3 in terms of story any day. But not over 2.

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TheEnigma313163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

My favorite was part 2 and I think Ragnarok is better that 2018.

Shane Kim163d ago

The newer games are better imo.

ravens52163d ago

There is no worst. Except for Ascension, only cause I didn't play it lol. They are all masterpieces. 1,2,3, 2018 and Ragnarok. 1 of, if not the greatest video game franchise...besides MetalGear.

Snookies12163d ago

Oh wow, I actually forgot that Ascension even existed... I never played it either.

Crows90163d ago

I like ascension. It was different and some interesting combat additions.

darthv72163d ago

If you didnt play it, how could you call it the worst? Its not as bad as the media portrayed it. Honestly the worst are those flash games. they arent even considered true GoW games but in name only. At least Ascension is a real GoW game.

ravens52163d ago

Not saying it's a terrible game. Just mean it's at the bottom of my list. I played a little bit of it. Jus to me, compared to the other main games, it's last.

Fluke_Skywalker163d ago

Ascension is the only GOW game I never finished. Hated it.

Inverno163d ago

Can't agree, older games do so much more than the last two. More weapons, magic abilities, enemies are more varied, level design is also more aesthetically pleasing, and agree with those who say that they shouldn't have removed jumping. Was a time I'd agree, but those old games are so so much better, that they really should've looked into bringing into the reboot/sequels.

Crows90163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

If a game is good then a game is good. Doesn't matter what came before or what comes after.

Inverno163d ago

Of course it matters. If not for what what came before there wouldn't be an after. And if something is great before then you strive to make it just as good if not better, after. I personally don't think there's a fair way to judge the new with the old because the newer games are still essentially a reboot, and went a way different direction. But I still believe the old games did it better. I'm probably bias though since I've been going back to old games and have been finding that they lack all the annoying aspects that devs have shoehorned into new games to fluff out game time.

Crows90162d ago

@Inverno

Im not talking about the passage of time here. Im talking about individual pieces of software. If a game is good then it is good. Thats not a controversial statement. You can compare good with good...sure. But you still end up with good. Now if there is a bad game in the mix and you compare you do end up with some differentials between them...makes sense to compare and see where it went wrong.

But theyre different genres and styles which were individually executed very well.

And no. The new games are not a reboot. Theyre a new direction but simply a continuation.
Tomb raider was a reboot.

Inverno162d ago

The new games are definitely a reboot, and a continuation, it can be both which it is. And a good game might be good, but my point is that if there are things done better before it then there's plenty of room for critiquing and trying to make whatever comes after better rather than just good.

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purple101324d ago

Haha I still remember my brother playing the opening scene on ps3!!!

Yeh he had to put the controller down his heart was beating too fast trying to get past first 10 minutes. He said "it's too much". Best thing I've ever seen in gaming. Haha

robtion324d ago

A great game from an era before things went politically correct and gaming turned serious/'mature'.

It certainly wasn't concerned about upsetting or offending anyone and was more fun because of it.

The boss battles and set pieces still top most games released today.

SullysCigar324d ago

This game was absurdly good for it's time. The very definition of 'epic'.

robtion324d ago

Yes. The graphics were just ridiculous compared to most other games on the market at the time.

masterfox324d ago

I wished Ascension had the same treatment.

Heavenly King324d ago

Ascension SP had some things better than GOW3, and also some things worst than GOW3. But in general it was a really good game, for me it also deserves a REMASTER. The problem per se with the game is that most people were satisfied on how GOWIII ended, so Kratos got his revenge, so in order to rise the interest in the game how have to make it MORE EPIC is that the game did not had the epicness of fighting huge bosses (I guess due to technical difficulties,the game had actually a lot more colors (because the world is not dying like in GOWIII) so it is graphically more demanding that is my guess), but it compensated with having in general a more complex combat system, and an amazing soundtrack. but in general the game needed to be more epic than GOWIII somehow, and that did not happened, after GOWIII people had expectations through the roof. They should have waited and release it for PS4 so the vision of the game is not compromised.

My list of good and bad compared to GOWIII

GOOD: THE COMBAT
The combat was more elaborated, which allows you to be more immersed in the fights. Also every enemy was more resistant, even those that you could usually kill in 2-3 attacks in previous games. THE LAST BOSS is so damn epic!!!, but there is only one moment like this in the whole game.

GOOD: LESS QTEs
I love the fact that "cicle" in the new enemies (killing animations) are not QTEs, in Ascension they are mini-games on their own, depending on the enemy, making it more engaging. You had to dodge and hit when the window was open in order to eventually do the killing blow.

GOOD: The Soundtrack
it has the orginal trilogy musics, but with a new perspective since the game had a new composer. The ST was amazing also the new music written specifically for this game were badass

GOOD: The puzzles actually require you to think.

BAD: There are bad camera angles during the game, like zooming way too out of vista, and then swarming you with "light units" that like I said before had better AI and did not die of 2 attacks. those parts a few, but are a mess.

BAD: EMPTY ARENAS
Other thing that really annoyed me is that when you fight a sub-boss/heavy unit in a big arena; that ARENA WAS EMPTY, it was just you and against the medusa, or against the manticore. They should have zoom in into the action to avoid noticing the void scenario. I guess emptiness was because of the game having a lot more colors (because the world is not dying like in GOWIII) so it is graphically more demanding. My guess is that it was not possible technically, since in most of those cases you had huge vistas or intricate scenarios that needed to be rendered. The fact that the cerberus is smaller in this game disappointed me.

BAD: Only one BADASS EPIC moment, the others moments of the game were great but, they needed to set the bar even higher than GOWIII and they failed miserably.

BAD: The graphics did not improved much. I was GOWIII with more colors, and that's it.

So 4 good things against 4 bad ones. The problem is those 2 last BAD aspects are actually why the game was received so poorly. Everyone expects the next game to have a really BIG improvement in all aspects in contrast to the previous one, and that was not the case in ascension. And also GOW is the definition of EPIC, and that was not there neither. The jump on every aspect from GOWI to GOWII was huge being on the same console, and the jump from GOWII to GOWIII was humongous (obviously because a more powerful console). While the jump from GOWIII to Ascension is too little, and people expected more.

On it's own is a good game; but is not sufficient when GOWIII was released before it.

CrimsonWing69324d ago

I know this is unpopular opinion, but I prefer these over the new ones. I’m not saying the new ones are bad or anything, but they sort of get boring to me, whereas the older games were like non-stop roller coaster rides.

ChiefofLoliPolice324d ago

I love the new ones but I understand what you mean. The older ones had more action and was more arcady like.

MIDGETonSTILTS17324d ago

Ragnarok was not BIG at all… GoW1 had larger set pieces, and it was on ps2.

GoW 2018 had big moments in its own way…. Ragnarok abandoned these aspects though

robtion324d ago

I agree. It was just less serious and more fun.

victorMaje324d ago

One of my all time favourites.

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