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Why Final Fantasy 13 Isn’t a Final Fantasy Game

This isn’t a Final Fantasy game, but no one has really been able to explain why. Lots of people don’t like it, so much more than any entity before, and it’s been chalked up to the overwhelming number of drastic changes, bu that’s not it. It’s that the core of the game changed. To the point that it just isn’t even recognizable.

Redempteur5020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

every ff changed ..ff13 was no exception ..
no matter was some say it's still a great game

"it makes every character the same."
no if yoou played youd realise that some characters are better suited for some tasks than others

een with sentinel maxed lv 5 , hope won't be as good as snow or fang at the same level .it's easy to understand that by playing ..besides there are faqs explaining this as well

facelike5020d ago

I can't wait for the follow up article called "Why FFXIV is really a Final Fantasy Game."

caladbolg7775020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

"no matter was some say it's still a great game"
You spout this like it's a fact. When it isn't. You can plug your fingers in your eyes, cry "lalalalalala" and try to pass off your opinion as fact, but that won't make it the truth. It's an opinion. And it's an opinion that I do not share with you. IMO, FF13 was a mediocre game and a very poor Final Fantasy, maybe... just maybe the worst Final Fantasy to date.

That's my opinion. I know not everyone feels this way, but I know for a FACT that many people do feel the same way that I do.

RedPawn5020d ago

I give Final Fantasy 3 that nod.

USEYOURFIST5020d ago

i feel that its is an average adventure rpg but as a final fantasy game it is awful, it seems to have lost its soul and dont get me started on them making 14 online after saying they would never make another numbered game online mmo but call it something differnt.

Kamikaze1355020d ago

Heh, yeah, but FFXIV is a major game so I can't blame them. The graphics look amazing for an MMO and it looks like it would be a lot of fun to play. Then again, this is Square Enix we're talking about; their word is NEVER solid. Whenever they say they won't do something, we can expect them to pretend they never said that.

caladbolg7775020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

You mean FF3, as in, the one they remade for the DS? Or FF3 as in FF6?

My guess is that you mean the Japanese FF3 that was remade for the DS here in the States (instead of the SNES Final Fantasy III aka Final Fantasy VI is universally renowned as one of the best FFs, and subsequently best RPGS, of all time). In which case, I can see your point. Although, personally, I enjoyed the time I spent playing FF3-DS more than I did playing FF13.

Redempteur5019d ago (Edited 5019d ago )

tsk tsk ..

-ff13 is a challenging game ( chapter 13 and all the rank A mission are not a walk in a park )
-beautifull ( on the console that matters )
-quite long to complete ..

it doesn't have design flaws for a rpg ..it just doesn't look like a ff game .

Whan the horde of haters will finally die ( because it's cool to hate ) you'll find people like me who enjoyed ff13 not expecting a ff , but expecting a good rpg ... just like all those who were crying their hate of ff12 because it looked like ff11 too much

they gave you a full open world to explore ( ff12) you guys cried , they gave you a streamlined experience up to chapter 11 , you guys cried .. take off your nostalgia googles off ff7 or ff8 because you were spoiled with it .

SURE ff13 could have been better i dislike some characters and the wya they were hadled in the story.

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Kamikaze1355020d ago

Even though Final Fantasy games changed, they always retained a few things that made them Final Fantasy games; exploration, moogles, towns (lol), airships (at least all of the ones I played), tons of interactions, variety of side missions (the only side missions in FFXIII were fighting monsters), and they usually had good endings. The ending for FFXIII was "eh" to me. I feel like it ended at the climax of the ending. They better release a sequel that continues the story and fixes the mistakes FFXIII had.

Redempteur5019d ago

spoilers ***

oh but that was a good ending

all of them go against their fates .. and succeeded.
cocoon is freed from the influence of the fal'cie . everyone except vanille and fang lives ( in the main cast ). as for vanille and fang , as soul mates they stay together as crystal untill some other event wakes them up ...

All of them escaped certain death and they did it by preventing the fall of cocoon and the death of everyone inside ..
sorry that's a good ending .
i admit it happened too fast but that was a classic "good ending" ..if only the music was better ...

DA_SHREDDER5020d ago

your entitled to your opinion. But regardless, FF13 was not only a shitty Final Fantasy, but it was a horrible rpg overall. FF on the NES offered more depth and adventure. Im good on this series if this is all they can offer anymore.

sikbeta5019d ago

FF13 is a Final Fantasy game, it's just SE that f*cked up the game by cutting loads of content and make it so linear, but it's a FF game anyway...

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GSpartan7775020d ago

Halo Wars was not a Halo game. Mario Party is not a mario game. Sonic Riders is not a sonic game. This article is not an article. This is another pathetic article written by a wannabe gaming journalist telling us what we should believe.

Spenok5019d ago

Very well said. Lol this is just another reason not to go to this site.

BlackBusterCritic5020d ago

The entire face of the game was warped to appeal to frag-heads. It's nowhere as good as ANY of the previous Final Fantasy games. Hell, it didnt even score higher than FINAL FANTASY X-2!! WHICH WAS A SPIN-OFF!! The gameplay was way too simplistic and automated, and as far as content, its lacking greatly. There is 0 variety in the game. Everyone will end up with the same characters and everyone will defeat the bosses the same way. Hell, compare FF13 to FF10 & 12. FF10 kills 13 with only two words: BLITZ BALL. You could easily spend 200+ hours playing FF10 & 12 because of all the content the game offered. Omega Ruins, secret Aeons, Blitz Ball, ultimate weapons for each character, customizable weapons, customizable Aeons, customizable characters+SPHERE GRID, (that was all FF10, now for 12)amazing monster hunts(marks), customizable characters, secret marks, secret summons, amazingly vast world and exploration, secret bosses, great battle system, secret weapons, bazaar items, VIERA, and so much more. FF13 is by far the WORST FF game to exist.

Apotheosize5020d ago

you said it bbc.

What was wrong with sidequests? (one dimensional monster hunts do not count)
Nothing.
What was wrong with an open world?
Nothing
What was wrong with npcs?
Nothing.
What was wrong with in-depth customization, you know RPG ELEMENTS?
Nothing.

What was wrong with SE when they made this game?
Everything.

BlackBusterCritic5020d ago

Those were more complaints I had. NPCs? Towns? Non existent FOR NO REASON. Square Enix has COMPLETELY FAILED this generation. I would consider them to be worse than Rare. Square Enix's best games have all been on portable consoles, this generation.

Apotheosize5020d ago

I still have mild hope for Versus, they've confirmed some things like airships, open world, seamless battles, mature setting etc..if they dont deliver well I'll be very disappointed...

whatis5020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

Towns weren't excluded for "no reason". It was because HD towns are too much work!

So just give SE a break why don't you!?

Source:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010...

ThanatosDMC5020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

I wish they'd put unique mini-games like Blitz Ball and Tetra Master Card (FF8) on all future FF titles. FF9's card game sucked.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5020d ago (Edited 5020d ago )

FF Versus XIII Is the real Next Gen Final Fantasy.

There will be exploration, so I assume there will be NPC's with along of other Features.

Besides it will use the best performance of the PS3.

Nomura is the Chief of this Final Fantasy.

ranmafandude5020d ago

you are so right. i felt they dumbed the game down for people that don't like jrpgs or rpgs period after a few hours into the game. it was a fucking straight line for god's sake lol.i'm surprised i even finished this game lol.i think it was because the trophies were so easy to get lol.when i completed it i didn't connect to the characters or the story at all. it felt like playing a first person shooter's campaign which you usually don't care about the characters at all with few exceptions(half-life, etc.)

willie62895019d ago

that has been the story for square this whole generation. trying to get the xbox crowd. they have done everything they can to appeal to the as you put "frag-heads".

I agree that 10 was good, I personally didn't like 12, didn't like the battle system. I am more for the old school battle system. 12, and even worse so, 13 just don't do anything for me.

If Square would get over their hard-on for the xbox and release an old fashion RPG, don't care if it is multi or not, just not aimed at the frag heads, I think we could finally get a good RPG from them.

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CrzyFooL5020d ago

Lost Odyssey was the actual FF13!!

FunAndGun5020d ago

After hitting X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X....for the first 5 hours, I stopped.

ThanatosDMC5020d ago

You're not alone on that one. Well among the other things that turned me off.

pustulio5020d ago

Yu jin xiang

After that son of a bitch i stopped.

Even tho the little i played i liked it but i think it's just me.

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972117d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus117d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda116d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B115d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981115d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot115d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda115d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot115d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy115d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay115d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12117d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay115d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB116d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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