Crytek CEO: Console gamers 'don't respect development'

Cervat Yerli, CEO of Crytek, has told OXM that console gamers 'don't respect development'.

He explained that one of the major differences between PC gamers and console gamers is that "a PC gamer forgives you for about a minute" while "a console gamer gives you two seconds."

[TOO PAWNED]

These idiots are setting themselves for major failure. So much arrogance/ignorance has not been seen in long long time. It there anyone out there that they haven't offended or called out?

[movements]

Um, why are these guys talking so much? It's ridiculous..

[mrv321]

If they spend this much time developing as they do trash talking we may have a shooter which isn't completely shallow this time round.

SWOOSH

See what I did? I trash talked without basis, maybe you SHOULDN'T try it next time.

[blitz0623]

He should change the word 'gamers' to fanboys.

@below: No, you're not kidding. You've already made quite a name for yourself by going anti PS3 since the day you joined.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Google Chrome says, "Aww Snap!" he is definitely talking about PS3 extremist....j/k!

[Red_Orange_Juice]

go make games

[hay]

Gaming company CEO and knows so little about gamers.
His description fits fanboys perfectly. But in the console communities there are people with brains too!

And here we are, gamers, pretty sure that Crytek tries to get themselves publicity using rather controversive comments about others.

In short. We know more about making games and PR than Crytek CEO about his target demography... Sad, sad.

@Red_Orange_Juice: Hahah, good one.

[kraze07]

I think you're taking these guys' comments way too seriously. He's basically just making a generalization which isn't true. People do this all the time.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

is Developers, writers and everyone who is working on this particular project saying more negative things about anyone then they are talking about features of their game.

The only thing I know about this game is "graphics bla bla bla. Everyone sucks except us."

All this talk an it is still just a rental.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

He got to understand that if the game is a hit it will sale more on PS3/360 then on PC.

[Montrealien]

and here we have people talking about them.

Marketing 101 flew right over your heads again eh guys?

*golfclap*

[solar]

completely agree with him.

a majority of console gamers wont give a game a second look if "the graphics suck" to them. whereas PC gamers, we play games over and over from a decade ago like HL or Fallout for it's fun factor. hell thousands still play CS 1.6 til this day because of its fun factor.

PC gamers let a lot slide, like a game being released with tons of bugs (looking at you BC2) because we have faith DICE will fix things. it's either its crap or its great with a majority of console users, there is hardly a middle ground.

[AntoineDcoolette]

They're like the demon spawn off spring of David Jaffe and Keith Oberman lol

[Darkstorn]

I think his point is that console games are somewhat obligated to cater to a younger audience and need to be more reward-driven.

He shouldn't say that console gamers 'don't respect development,' but I don't think that's entirely untrue.

[MGRogue2017]

I'm a console gamer & I respect development! ... But I must admit, I was born as a PC Gamer but now.. Well you now, I've moved onto better things?? I don't know.. It's sure alot of fun being able to game on different platforms! :D

[MAR-TYR-DOM]

SERIOUSLY! i wanna punch who ever has the original interview. I also wanna punch all the people on N4G who have taken ONE INTERVIEW and made a story out of EVERY sentence. OMFG!

[firelogic]

I don't know why they're being so arrogant. Based on the last batch of screens released, Killzone 2 still looks better. At least at this point in development for Crysis.

[blitz0623]

"Anyway, I wish people would stop posting what this guy says because now we have to swim through the comment sections of f*cking pathetic cry babies."

So don't swim through the comments -_-. You talk about me defending a piece of plastic through a PM? I think you're the one just trying to defend yourself, loser.

[RememberThe357]

Please just shut the hell up a little bit. No one was thinking he was talking about PS3 fanboys other than yourself.

Anyways, it is not our job to understand or even care about how these guys make games. In fact it is their job to make sure we don't even think about it when we're playing.

We want to have an enjoyable experience. We don't want to play a crappy game because the developer gave their best. If the game isn't good I'm moving on. If devs don't like that they need to either get out of the business or make good games.

[Consoldtobots]

wow these guys sound majorly butthurt over Crysis not selling well and only being useful as a talking point for spec whores. How is that the fault of console gamers?

[Raz]

But it could definitely have been phrased better. Bottom line: we only give a crap about development when we're singing the praises of a fantastic game...or ranking it out as an epic fail.

So what he was saying in relation to Crysis 2, is that they'd better get it right the first time; because second chances are slim to none in this business, whereas PC gaming is a bit more forgiving as an industry.

Too bad he came off sounding like he was slanging his customers.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Did I not differentiate, a PS3 fan from a PS3 fanatic, enough? Ok, next time I'll just lump you all into the same category. On second thought, I'll just ignore anyone with more than 6 bubbles. Don't get mad because I'm pointing out the lameness of people getting upset of the words of this guy. And its not my fault you're so touchy. I'm a console gamer also, don't see me crying over this guys words do you? Actually, I'm even more interested in Crysis 2 now.

Well, thats debatable, but yeah, I should use a different word like...extremist.

[solar]

Raz hit it right on the head.

[Biggest]

I don't feel he understands what he is saying. The one thing that shows respect in a consumer sense is consuming the product. If PC games aren't the most pirated games in existence then he might have a point somewhere. I feel that playing a game for years on end shows loyalty. I feel that paying for a produced product shows respect. Stealing something and being loyal to that stolen product isn't very respectful at all.

[Morgue]

......

[BigPenguin]

Fan = Fanatic. Where do you think the word comes from.

@solar

You should get angry when DICE released BC2 with bugs. They used paying customers as beta testers. You should be furious that you had to pay for an unfinished product. It is not something to take pride in as a PC gamer. Also, your assertion that no one on consoles plays old games because of graphics is.... for lack of a better word, retarded. I am currently playing Digimon world having just refinished a run of FF8. On the handheld side I am currently on Oracle of Ages having finished Seasons about a week ago. I am not unique, everyone else does this, your comment was made with a complete lack of thought. Bubbles down(yes, I have the balls to actually say it when I do it. I don't hide.).

[OmegaSlayer]

Will someone shut those Crytek guys up?
They're really talking crap and way too much!

[Christopher]

And developers don't respect other developers, it seems. If you're going to give it, be prepared to receive it.

[lil Titan]

who here has played there game on the PC? if so are they right for talking there $hit? if so then let them continue to talk there $hit no reason to get made at someone who knows there $hit stink and is proud of it...right? but if not well everyone else has spoken on that

[ABizzel1]

All we have to say is that they better deliver when Crysis 2 comes out. There's no room for anything but perfection, because all the things they said are going to be thrown back in their face.

With that being said my bet is that Crysis 2 will be something special.

[ryhanon]

Ok. So Crytek spends the last two weeks dropping massive loads of crap on every major developer and franchise they can think of and yet somehow WE are the disrespectful ones?!

WTF? These guys are looney.

[solar]

who said i wasn't angry? i was in the Beta and expected a lot of things that annoy me about the game to be addressed. they weren't and still aren't.

and the word "majority" doesn't mean "all", which is why i used "majority". i know there are console gamers that go back and play great games from the past. but imo a "majority" dont. hell i was called "retarded" from a console gamer on this site for playing any game earlier than 2005 because "the graphics suck" and seen many user's here state the same followed by "not interested".

why do you think we see all these graphic comparisons between multi plats? because for some reason a bad texture suddenly makes the game bad? and ill buy this version because it's visually superior? that's truly the dumbing down of society if your judgement on which version to buy is over negligible graphic comparisons.

and "On the handheld side I am currently on Oracle of Ages having finished Seasons about a week ago. I am not unique, everyone else does this, your comment was made with a complete lack of thought."

no sir, your comment was made with a complete lack of thought.

[BattleAxe]

I'm not sure what the arrogance is all about with Crytek. Crysis Wars was a terrible online experience, so I'm still not sure if these guys can come through with a good experience. I want to see if they can actually make some good controller configurations, because using the 360 controller to play Crysis and Crysis Warhead was a chore.

[Inside_out]

Crytek seems to be in panic mode or something...This game sucks and that game sucks, our engine the best ever and now console gamers suck and/or are dumb and misinformed ALL in a week......these guys need a time out and a media blackout....

[evrfighter]

"wow these guys sound majorly butthurt over Crysis not selling well and only being useful as a talking point for spec whores"

might wanna recheck your facts. At launch Crysis did indeed do horrible. As the better hardware became cheaper and more mainstream (geforce 8800). It's well over 2 million more than likely over 3 million sold by now.

[ico92]

Crytek seem to be doing alot of talking, especialy seeing as we've seen so LITTLE of Crysis 2

[DarkTower805]

I think this CEO is realizing that now that they are going multi-plat they now have to actually come up with a good single player experience, and it's tough for them to do that lol. PC gamers let Crysis slide BIG TIME because of it's superior graphics, but console gamers won't do that. If the game isn't fun and engaging it WILL fail on the console, and I think that upsets Crytek a bit.

Yes, we all know you can make a pretty game with awesome physics, but sorry guys, that's not enough anymore. Day one rental.

[likedamaster]

"a PC gamer forgives you for about a minute" while "a PS3 gamer gives you two seconds."

/fixed.

[Gue1]

and people say that they don't like sony because they are arrogant... Now I wonder what those people think about Crytek.

[BigPenguin]

"who said i wasn't angry? i was in the Beta and expected a lot of things that annoy me about the game to be addressed. they weren't and still aren't."

You atempted to use the example below to show the better attitude that PC gamers have over console gamers. You used it as a positive. How could it be a positive if you were just as angry as one of us "console fanboys" would have been? I am livid that console's are having DLC that is on the disk but you have to pay for, just like you should be livid that you have to purchase what amounts to a bug-filled crap-fest. You are not better then console gamers then, you just have different concerns and prioritys.

"PC gamers let a lot slide, like a game being released with tons of bugs (looking at you BC2) because we have faith DICE will fix things."

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Secondly of course you did not say all. I understand that you said majority. Just as you should understand if I said the majority of southerners were inbred retarded rednecks, or majority of people in San Francisco were f@gs, it would still cause offense to those who were not. For you to argue differently...

As for your graphics argument, you are once again not looking at your own side of the equation. If graphics do not matter, why would you ever upgrade your video card if you did not have to to play at the bare minimum settings? Hypocrite? Once again, you are not better then a console gamer, you just have different concerns.

You are not better then anyone else just because you play on the PC, that is why I disagree with you. However you seemed to miss the point with your completely inane rebuttals.

[MNicholas]

but by whining about it he risks alienating his potential customers.

PC games are definitely more forgiving. THat's because most PC gamers spend a lot of time building their machines and constantly trying different games. Even playing a full game for the first time requires a huge time investment as the game has to fully install on the hard-drive.

Console gamers simply have to pop it in and start playing so they're not as invested. It's really that simple.

[TROLL EATER]

crytek can go bak to PC. and leave consoles alone wivout their BULLS***

[moegooner88]

Stop quoting this guy in articles, enough is enough

[RedDragan]

This has been taken a LONG WAY out of context by yet more clever headlining to generate website hits.

What he said is this:

"It sucks or it fails and you're either the top or a flop. They don't respect any value you put into your development, either it works or it doesn't work."

He goes on to explain how this pressure has ultimately made Crysis 2 a better game."

Basically he is saying that by making the game for consoles his teams have had to up their game... is this really a bad thing.

And don't forget it is journo's going to crytek, not crytek going to journo's.

[wicko]

Yeah, and he's 100% correct too. Think about it, games like counterstrike or half life, or even crysis for that matter keep living on because of the community. The players in that community spread the word to friends, the game goes on sale on steam and people buy it up. It's not a huge boom in sales right from release, but a significant amount of sales over time. Modding and mapping keep the game alive for a much longer time than any console game. And when there are exceptions to that (ie Halo 2), eventually support is cut. With dedicated servers and modding communities, the games last as long as the players want it to.

[chazjamie]

does the guy know how much we have to spend on your 6-10 hour games when pc gamers dont even pay half that amount.

yes they use there cash on upgrades, but if you going to expect to accept a crap game at full price, u must be insane.

DROP THE PRICE TO THAT OF A PC GAME, AND U WONT GET ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ME BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS IF YOUR GAME IS CRAP BE PREPARED TO GET SLAMMED.

[Raf1k1]

lol this is the first thing he's said that I can agree with.

edit: If a game isn't very good console gamers will switch off almost immediately whereas PC gamers would continue to play to see if it improves. This is obviously a generalisation and not true for all console and PC gamers.

[moegooner88]

Could be why many people hated FFXIII

[GSpartan777]

PC gamers are the worst when it comes to not respecting developers when they do not get what they want. I know because I am part of multiple PC gaming communities. They resort to promoting hacks, pirating and looking for ways to sabotage either the companies games/web servers, forums or anything else till the point where the company just gives up on the game. That's why many companies are now resorting to console games. This guy is seriously just pulling sh1t out of his @ss. LOL did the PC gamers respect them when Crisis was one of the most pirated games in 2008? and with such high PC requirements, bad sales there was no online community for it.

[-MD-]

Crytek is already super annoying, to the point of me not wanting to support them.

[nycredude]

Seriously I stated before in the previous shiat talking article from Crytek that if I see another article with them shiat talking then they lost a buyer. Well it didn't take long. Used copy from gamestop here I come, and only if this game is good. Otherwise I pass.

Seriously wtf man. Just shut up and finish the game. I bet after all this talk it will still just be another ho hum shooter.

[Pennywise]

I support this comment.

[Fishy Fingers]

Then dont, leave the game on the shelf, leave the threads. The only thing more annoying than Cryteks so called arrogance, is the constant moaning.

Especially when 99% of the time these quotes are taken out of context and then shot down by people who dont even bother to read the complete articles/interviews. And through this your proving his point and you dont even realise.

[ArcFatalix]

but ppl were quick to call it flop. even though it has a good score in metacritic.

[johnyv1981]

reviewers look for reasons to trash games and always seem to forget the time and hard work needed to make some of these games. for many studios a game that receives bad reviews can destroy them. quite frankly the internet feeds the unhappy nerds who trash every game no matter how fun the game might be, with that being said it seems as if nobody is ever happy or ever likes anything.

[silvacrest]

yeah well, console gaming is where the money is at right?

so cater to the target market or GTFO

[OliveTreeFam]

so Crytek, keep talking trash and I will take my business elsewhere. Dumbasses.

[lavitz]

Didn't read the story did you?

[bjornbear]

oh...really =P

[CaliGamer]

These fools are doing so much trash talking yet have not shown proper footage to support half their claims about this game.

Console gamers by and large might be harsher than those on PC, but it could be because they value their money and demand quality. Talking trash like this will only make people judge them more harshly once the final product is released.

Unless they are looking to all of this to justify their failure if the game doesn't do well. I can see it now, "our product was solid but the blind hate from console gamers did us in."

As I said before, sometimes it is wise to STFU and let the product speak for itself.

[Darkstorn]

Please read the article before posting next time.

[CaliGamer]

You say read the article yet give no reason why I am wrong or what I misunderstood.
Nerdy internet jerks are so funny, can't take charge in real life so you try to be tough guys over the internet. Whatever floats your boat guy, lol.

[Corrwin]

But probably listening too much to the more vocal retarded 12 year olds that can't gauge a game more finely than GOTY or Worst Game Ever!

Sadly, it's this demographic publishers usually listen to (often because it's what their own 12 year old told them before leaving for work - I sh!t you not! It's happened before).

[Elwenil]

...I sort of have to agree with this guy this time. PC gamers are a bit more patient, while console gamers tend to be a lot more critical of just about everything. I don't know if it's this all the fanboys this gen, the utter rash of reviews and "articles" out on the Internet these days or maybe just that console gamers are a bit spoiled. PC gamers tend to have a "can do" attitude towards game fixes and so on. Maybe it's because of the issues many experience tweaking their system to run different games or maybe the modding community. Console gamers expect everything to be perfect right out of the box. There is perhaps reason behind this since, in my opinion anyway, old console games didn't have as many bugs and problems as the current generation seems to have. The ability to patch games after release seems to have lowered the quality standard for a newly released game. Another thing to consider is that in the past console gamers have generally paid higher prices for the same game than what PC gamers usually do. So console gamers may be justified in their stubbornness, which I would not consider disrespect to a developer in my opinion, but it does seem to exist. Perhaps if developers took the time to polish games before release, stop raping us for every little dime for DLC and stopped making asinine comments to the "media" then maybe gamers would respect them more.

[Imalwaysright]

[spinbot_lv1]

Cevat please let talk your games, not your mouth. remember,now you have to prove that you can do what uncharted 2 has already done.I highly doubt it.

[L-Teezy]

whats this d!ckhead doing making the game for consoles, if he's gonna sh!t-talk console gamers? ive heard enough from this a$$hole from the last 2 articles to the point where im not buying sh!t from this guy.

[avengers1978]

I'll say it again crytek better watch out, or there game will end up being a huge flop.
BTW I respect devs and everything they go through, but if they don't want to hear harsh critics then, stop putting out so much early release images, and only show it off when it's done. They'd miss out on the hype building that generally sells the game, but then they wouldn't have to deal with people.

[OneShotThrill]

Looks back at the L4D2 and MW2. Console gamers bought that sh*t up like crazy.You know why many Pc gamers might give the game a chance if theres some issues. Because many of them got the freaking game for free. You cant be too letdown about a game you just pirated for nothing.

[jizzyjones]

Is there anything these guys don't criticise besides there beloved PC market? Any1 wud think Crysis was the most perfect game ever or summat (i jus thought it was a tech demo for PC gaming myself)

[mushroomwig]

Well done Crytek, first you insult games such as Killzone 2 and Halo and now you're insulting Console gamers.

I doubt I'll end up buying Crysis 2 now.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Seriously? Take a chill pill, because the effects of you, like a handful of other folks here that are now not going to get the game, will bog down the comment sections about how you're going to boycott the game. And look down your nose at other people who do buy it. Damn, people need to get a life...

[mushroomwig]

'Damn, people need to get a life...'

What does that have to do with anything? Just because I've decided to no longer buy the game I apparently need a life?

Try not to defend them so much, it's not like you work for their company.

[Pennywise]

Iflowlikewater... I have reported every single one of your disrespectful comments. Your attitude SUCKS.

If you dont like us... GET OFF OF OUR SITE.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Pennywise, you're no one important. Say hello to my ignore list!

[Pennywise]

My feelings are hurt. iflowlikewater is on a gaming site telling all the gamers to "get a life" and now he ignored me... This is such a sad day for me. How will I recover from a PS3 and gamer hating avatar ignoring me...

Better get on your other accounts and ignore me too.

[kraze07]

Another article, another flood of comments from people taking this guy's comment out of context, another hour on N4G I guess. It's pretty clear who didn't bother reading the story.

[gypsygib]

F these guys, they only thing they respect is profit. We respect developers as much as they respect us - very little. you give us good games, we give you money. Then you give us paid DLC to leech more money from us when it should have been on the disk in the first place. The only company I feel cares about gamers is Guerilla.

[ginganinja]

guy makes comment in middle of interview, which is pulled out and made into a small story, posted on here and in no time at all the comments section is full of;
'well i'm not buying his game, dumbass'
'he should shut up and make games'
'blah blah blah'

You know, you are actually PROVING HIS POINT!

[lavitz]

+Bubs for speaking the truth.

[mushroomwig]

How am I proving his point by deciding not to buy the game? Nobody asked him to disrespect the very people he's trying to sell his product to.

[spektical]

your logic makes no sense.

If a developer/publisher wants to stay "good" they will not make any references to severely divide the community there are trying to sell there product to.

If they decide to go against that, the community has the right to bash that same developer/publisher.

and i dont get how were proving his point.

[thehitman]

did u read the article?? If you did he said nothing offensive at all. All he said is that if a console game has its flaws ppl wont even touch it or give it a 2nd look but if a PC game has flaws people will let it slide more. He is right ppl fight over reviews more than ever now "Its an 8 no its a 9 " "shyt i wont get an 8".

[lavitz]

I don't think these guys read the article. If they did they sure as hell can't read english seeing as how they don't understand what he said.

[Montrealien]

You are proving his point by actually talking about him, and his game. gj!

[Pennywise]

This is like the 5th article this is being done. Crytek needs to stop giving interviews :P

[Montrealien]

they would be stupid not to keep on giving interviews. Good or bad, as long as we keep talking about them. Now people will be waiting on this game to either blast it, or praise it. Win win.

[BYE]

Usually people who make these stupid comments weren't going to buy this game anyway, so who cares.

Edit: Go ahead and disagree, but if you really let your opinion about something change just by statements surrounding it, you're an idiot who probably falls for lame advertisement and cheap election campaigns, too.

[bjornbear]

i don't fully agree with his statement, but i don't mind! let him think that, doesn't mean the game isn't going to be good!

people are butt hurt because they think he's insulting them, and then don't want to buy the game, i say tough luck

im still as interested in crysis as i was before these comments, i may not agree with them, but I've seen way worst

[spektical]

well, consider this console player that doesn't "respect game development" one less customer.

seriously these guys are setting themselves up for epic failure, the only people that will buy this game are people that go online and look up game news. The casual-hardcore market is going to pass on this. So they are shooting themselves in the foot by posting ludicrous statements and no one except PC gamers will be supporting them.

[Rowsdower]

we are a sensitive bunch

[spektical]

ArcFatalix
6 - I agree final fantasy they worked so hard.
but ppl were quick to call it flop. even though it has a good score in metacritic.
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i have tons of friends who are in love with FF, and they even say that 13 was a snooze fest until 10 hours in. What kind of game has a long boring prologue to get the story going. Someone messed up on the narrative aspect of the game. No game should take longer than 3-5 hrs to get going, especially an (J)RPG.

edit* i realize some people like long narratives to get the story going, so i guess those people enjoyed this.

[cobraagent]

What do you mean by prologue? The only part i found a little boring were the first 2 chapters that lasted for less than 2 hours

[thehitman]

cut the hate on Crytek all of these articles are being pulled out of interviews, most from the same 1 just using the comments and taking them out of context to generate hits. I agree with what this guy said and his comment was not directed at US(GAMERS) it was directed to his developers to step their game up. If anything that comment actually makes me think about picking up Crysis more because I know they wont just be blowing smoke w/ the console version.

[OneShotThrill]

Well we all know this is N4G. Not much common sense here. Ill just let the game do the talking. I could care less what developer talks crap about X game or Y game, as long as that developer's game kicks ass Im cool and Ill purchase it.

[remanutd55]

well thats it , i have had it , i dont care how good the game is i dont like their attitude and they wont see any $ from me , give me Resistance 3 instead

[Gamer_89]

but shut up already dahm so much crap comes from his mouth he need to wash it with soap

[lavitz]

Another one that didn't read the story. I can do this all day people. Wait no I can't, I'm almost out of bubbles.

[spektical]

how do you know he didnt read the article? People will take something that sounds bad, and say it is bad.

The quote seems like Crytek is crying that the console market doesnt appreciate the time they put into a game, because if a game starts of bad they will drop it.

Well if Crytek sees this problem, keep your mouth shut, and do your best so your product doesn't fall under those circumstances instead of expressing an opinion that is really subjective and can get you lots of hate.

[abmac713]

These guys are much too vocal :/. Everyday it's something. As a console gamer who does respect the game development process, I feel somewhat insulted. This comment is unnecessary; cut it down to "most" or "some" console gamers if you wish, but there are many gamers out there (both console and PC gamers) who recognize the labor and hardships game developers have to pull through to emerge with an adequate product. I'm sure it was just a generalization (it happens all the time), but it would have been better to not have said anything at all. If Crytek initially thought that console gamers had little respect for game developers, then after this comment, Crytek is bound to receive much less respect from them prior to the release of the game. I guess it's PR talk, but these guys need to show a tad more respect for their audience. There's one thing I appreciate, more than anything, with respect to studios like Naughty Dog: they're humble. Not much to say and they come out with an unexpected bang. I'm sure Crysis 2 will deliver, and with that in mind, just let the game speak for itself.

[KillerPwned]

Hmmm this article is going to get hot hehehe. I can`t wait to see the other comments roll in.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

These guys just won't shut-up will they? By the time the game comes out everyone is going to be fed up with their bashing and constant disrespect of console gamers.

[lavitz]

And another one. Used up all my bubs but I think I got my point across.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I read the story so you wasted that last bubble.

Console gamers get mad in 2sec?

I think console gamers have been more than understanding of developers this gen.

1. Broken games right out of the box that require online patches
2. Paying $10 more for the same game that PC gamers play.
3. Constantly fed bullshots from developers trying to show something that doesn't represent the final product.
4. DLC already on disc's.
5. Most developers skip dedicated servers on consoles but give them to PC.

So excuse us if we are a bit jaded when a developer makes promises because we are skeptical and usually with good reason. So many of these "tricks" have been used for so long we gamers can spot them a mile away, usually in 2 secs.

[CaliGamer]

This guy "lavitz" talks about people not reading the article just because he's all on Crytek's ba!!sack. You hit the nail on the head on this one brotha.

Lavitz - Rather than just stating that someone didn't read the article, you tell them what they are misunderstanding. Is that sort of elitist foolishness that really has no place in forums such as this. Even if you are correct it makes you no better than the person making the mistake to act like a smart @SS, get a life.

[RagTagBnd445]

As a pc gamer i can honestly say this guy is wrong.

[Aphe]

"I simplified it for our guys by saying there is one difference between the PC gamer and console gamer. I said the single most important difference is a PC gamer forgives you for about a minute. A console gamer gives you two seconds. It sucks or it fails and you're either the top or a flop. They don't respect any value you put into your development, either it works or it doesn't work."

Have a look through most of the comments in an average n4g day and tell me he's not telling the truth.

[spektical]

completely disagree anyone that buys a product will want that product to be good. Why? because you spent $$$ to get that product so your expect at least an equal return back for the $$$ you put in to buy the game.

Every game i have bought has been finished through and through.

Games that i rent are not finished in the same aspect because they are not mine and have to be returned in timely fashions.

There are exceptions to the rule, when a game starts of horrible and the design does not seem to get better, it usually means the game will be horrible throughout.

i.e rogue warrior, the larry game, shellshock2, etc.

[Baka-akaB]

problem is a good chunk of those n4g posts are from PC fanatics too . It's a bit too easy to sit back and pretend n4g is only about ps3 vs 360 .

It's also about weirdly increasing hate toward apple , wii trashing , pc elitists who cant shut up about an obvious superiority in hardware multiplatform superiority , and of course people as nuts going on about the superiority of current consoles over pc .

Anyway i dont agree with his premise , if console owners were so unforgiving , they wouldnt buy by millions some games that are easy to pirate on pc , and that many actually pirate on PC .

One could even argue that Crysis' main value was a absolutely divine graphical engine , while the game itself was hardly a masterpiece and a must have , graphical considerations aside . And millions of console owners had no qualm about buying inferior versions of valve games .
Both crowd are rather easy to fool and satisfy

[stuntman_mike]

yeah people should ask if the pc gamers were happy with settlers 7, they released a broken game now no one wants it.

[Theonik]

It's true! (to get the joke look at the image)
But now with him saying that i expect Crysis 2 to be bugfree... So ok so far: Crysis 2 will have flawless gfx, even on consoles, no bugs and a very good story. Of course you are getting what i mean on this, if Crytek fails to meet with any of the things they are hyping i will be slamming this game down tot he ground for their arrogance.

[ddelella]

If your trying to get into the console market with Crysis 2, DO NOT insult the console fan base for saying they have less patience. The main reason console gamers require a better product is that there is a more rigid patch cycle. We get only a small percentage of the updates PC users get and we have to pay for almost all DLC. If the patches and DLC were regulated by the game makers and not Microsoft it might be a different story.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Ive been in console gaming 15 years and always respected the efforts what many devs have been doing through the years but when a dev team is actually doing LESS effort on doing their games i have the right to protest and not just be happy cause im not.MW2 and FF13 are those kinda games that give proof of what many devs are doing - better graphics but worse in almost everything else...isnt this true?

Crytek i always respected you not because you people did great looking games like Far Cry and Crysis but how your an inspiration to other devs team around the world to make fantastic games.

But this console gamers and PC gamers comparison is quite obvious...PC gaming is way less juveline than Console gaming

[OneShotThrill]

with what he truly said. I do however have a problem with these lame ass articles and headlines twisting everything said to make it sound like the guy just waged a damn jihad against console gamers. Who approves this bullsh*t. Its like reading tabloids or something. Formulate opinions of your own instead of letting some "journalist" lite a fire under your ass just for the hits.

[Neurotoxin]

This guy likes to talk..... Everyday some other BS comes out of his mouth! Seriously the games not even come out yet and he's bad mouthing his prespective buyers plus other developers!

I`d laugh if the game bombed.

[Antan]

Absolutely true.

[Valkyre]

According to Crytek's employes Halo is Bullshit, KZ2 is nothing serious to talk about, and Uncharted 2 didnt do justice to its own genre...

WOW mister CRYTEK CEO!

who doesnt respect developers again?Your employees MAYBE??Way to set off an example idiot!!

Seriously these pathetic imbeciles should stop talking and just make the game...

[rakunado]

I feel sorry for Crytek.

They are pretty much being slammed for stuff they said that is put way out of context. E-Journalism nowadays is like a frigg'n hydra. Once one head comes off, two more spring in its place!

Judge them for what they really said, not what the headlines are saying.

I wonder where this pure hatred and anger at Crysis 2 came from?

Although i disagree with Yerli's take on UC2 not defining the so called gaming medium since both games and movies come out of the little 52 inch black box in my living room.

As for PC gaming, what i do know is how to make a bootdisk to run Ultima 7 Black Gate, HIMEM.SYS and EMM386 babee! XD

[AKS]

A summary and analysis of every individual line of text fro an interview is evidently deemed worthy of an entire separate article here.

[keysy420]

look at lens of truth

[TaylorMade]

hahahah This is game over for Crytec.. what a noob...

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

I'm really tired of these crytek guys..shut the fvuk up...show some footage from both consoles and...shut the fuvk up!!

[mxpxboy]

Has Crytec ever thought maybe the reason PC gamers are more forgiving is because most of them didn't waste their money on it and pirated it instead?

I know I'd be WAY more forgiving if I didn't waste my hard earned money on a crappy game.

[gtamike123]

go away Crytek and make a good game, with story, gameplay and graphics, not just graphics. (aka not a tec demo game to show off only)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Xfanboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

& name an open world FPS that you have played as good as this!!

Like all ps3 fans say "ThIS IS JUST ANOTHER GENERIC FPS WITH OPEN WORLD & A NANOSUIT & TOP NOTCH PHYSICS AND GRAPHICS"
I love fan boys!! don't need them!! but.. I love em!!!

[AKS]

You sound like someone who has never played the first two games.

[jalen247]

I don't think the comment was that bad.

In fact, I think he has a valid point.

[The GOAT]

Crytek is sounding just like Turn 10 before the release of Forza 3. It is getting really annoying. All Turn 10 did before release of Forza 3 was bash the competition, especially Polyphony Digital. And I think after all that talk, Forza 3 definitely underwhelmed and didn't live up the self built up hype. It looks like Crytek is taking that exact same road. Crytek should just shut it and make a good game. There is a good chance all this talk will come back to bite them in the ass.

[iamgoatman]

A 92 on metacritic and 2.4m sold equals "underwhelmed" does it?

The only people underwhelmed by Forza 3 where the idiots who never played the bloody game, and by the sounds of things, you being one of them.

[Leio]

I dont respect bigmouth assholes ...

[xg-ei8ht]

He was talking about me, sorry man.

Oops i remembered i meant to tell you something, hurry the fk up with the game.

You slackjawed fa**ot

I kid i kid.

[Legionaire2005]

These guys talk too much sh**t they have a lot to prove to make their game success. I see Brink owning this game completely.

[8thnightvolley]

i am soo pray that happens i will laugh sooo hard.

[iamgoatman]

Yet another article based on a couple of lines of an interview, taking completely out of context with the same ignorant fanboys rushing in with their hatred.

I've not lost any respect for Crytek, but have completely lost faith in the members of this site. I guess it's asking a bit much for these whining morons to actually read the articles properly, and comprehend what was said correctly. This place is becoming more and more like a children's nursery, it's quite pathetic.

[Theoneneo81]

I was really looking to trying out Crysis 2 on PS3 but with all the BS these Devs have been spewing recently they are really turning me off and want to boycott this game entirely

[Outpostgamez]

I don't blame what Crytek is talking about, Console is an fly by night platform!

[avengers1978]

Consoles have been on the market for like 30 years, and average a pretty good life cycle. I guess that's why they never took off, oh wait they did.

[ipe]

to crysis 2 but these guys re turning me off with every day passes.pc trolls wanting console gamers money

when u look at game sales its obvious whos more supporting developers.(hint console gamers)

[stuntman_mike]

I've seen some dev's make a complete arse of them selves (valve!!) but these guys are taking the crown. it seems like thier trying to degrade and humiliate the gaming demographic thier maketing this game for!

trying to tell us that PC gamers like this more and such..what a complete load of bollocks. all gamers on all platforms like varied games and not.
He ought to get his head out of his garlic smelling arse and make a excellent game because that mountain of sh*t his piled on himself is getting bigger by the day and is gonna need a hell of a game to climb out of it!

[Panzerkanzler]

But the dev actually said the the console impatience made for a better result for the game.

[tigertron]

Can't Crytek just shut up and make the damn game?

[Kakihara]

The year 2013, while promoting Crysis 3, Crytek perfect their marketing technique...

"All those games you love suck, which in turn makes you stupid for loving them. You're also a complete douche. Please buy our game".

[8thnightvolley]

this crytek guys are pissing me off ... bad mouthing everything halo UC2 GOW3 what the f.k seriously..

[djfullshred]

I played a lot of PC games over the years, but only on a console these days. I don't really get what he is saying.

Whether I bought a game for PC or now for a console, I expect a certain level of quality for my hard earned money. I am not very forgiving if I feel a game wasnt worth the money, regardless whether it is PC or PS3.

[xXKingofStingXx]

So Crysis 2 better be the best game E V E R! Crytek PR have been flapping their gums left and right about how much better their game is, how other games story is BS, how their alpha build looks better and so on and so on!

I swear 2 days ago the headlines here were all on Crytek and how they bashed someone for whatever reason or another, i say SHUT THE F@#K UP and just make your damn game! A game that will probably sell like sh*t thanks to the amazing PR work.

For all this talk, Crysis 2 better blow me out of my seat, make my face melt off, get my girl pregnant, cure my dog's squaids, solve global warming and tell me the real meaning of life!

[steve30x]

LOL WOW! all the hate here. Im not going to agree or disagree because I will get disagrees no matter what way I go so Ill just sit back and watch all the hate.

[Xfanboy]

"I simplified it for our guys by saying there is one difference between the PC gamer and console gamer. I said the single most important difference is a PC gamer forgives you for about a minute. A console gamer gives you two seconds. It sucks or it fails and you're either the top or a flop. They don't respect any value you put into your development, either it works or it doesn't work."

He goes on to explain how this pressure has ultimately made Crysis 2 a better game - look out for the full interview on OXM soon. Do you agree with him?

[reznik_zerosum]

console gamers , please stop playing no-brainer games like god of war, gears of war, bayonetta, halo...and just bay yourself half life ,stalker,hitman,the witcher or any fa****g strategy game.

[reznik_zerosum]

Many people from PC communities are moders , hackers, pirates and not just Lancer / Chain of Olympus bots.

[jonli1]

TO ALL CONSOLE CRITICS OUT THEIR IF U COMPLAIN TO MUCH WHEN U SEE PREVIEW TO A GAME OR WHAT EVER IS OUT THERE U ALL TALK SMACK SO WHY DON'T ALL THE PEOPLE TALK SMACK WHY DON'T MAKE YOU'RE OWN STUPID GAME

[seinfan]

Otra vez?

Fu*k that puto.

[DigitalHorror81]

"don't respect development,"---

All right. And developers don't respect my wallet. You really want me to cough up money to a developer that constantly talks condescendingly about my console of choice? You know, I was really looking forward to playing Crysis 2 but if you're going to be a jerk about it, then forget it.

They think they're hot snot on a silver platter, they're wrong. More like a cold booger on a paper plate.

[Ingram]

Publishers and its deadlines, bureaucracy and ratings are the developer's natural enemy, not gamers.

Who's side are this guys on again?

Ah, yeah, they're PC Fanboys, now it's all clear.

Look Yerli, yes, PC WINS ALL, yes, you've been gaming in 4320p@480fps since 1992, blahblah yadda yadda.

[Darksyko]

And as a result of cryteks mouth, no one bought their game. Seriously, shut the hell up. Dis, dis, dis, that's all we r hearing.

[seij555]

First it was other game developers, now its us???

[hardcorez]

Just release the game and stop talking drama!

[LinuxGuru]

Wow...Crytek makes one freaking game for consoles and all of a sudden everyone and their MOM is reporting every little damned thing they say...

We just don't care Crytek. We just don't care.

[Legendary-Status]

talk is cheap man.. hahaha..got no time fo these developers they should change the name from crytek to crybaby's go cry back to your PC's if your gonna make all this drama about a console game... open your eye's crybaby's this aint PC's it's Console's you already knew that before you step foot threw the door so stop complaining and crying and make your game yall talk to much... cause all I got to say is yall game better be top notch all this damn commotion yall doing

[Wile]

Console gamers 'don't respect eachother'

There fixed it!

[hatchimatchi]

with all the great games coming out this year, i really doubt there are many people on the 360 or ps3 that are excited for a sequel to a game most console gamers haven't played.

[DarkSpawnClone]

with all there smack talk i have a feeling there games is going to fail hard , all they have been doing is bashing on the games we love UC2,Halo,Cod,Killbzone 2 ect .. enough talk cryteck put your money where your mouth is, they really need to prove them selfs imo first before they start trashing the big dogs, and yes i do " respect development" i dont like my games to be rushed and full of glitches and bugs like we have seen with MW2 , that game with a bit more time and MP beta would have been 100% better imo

[monkeybizz]

crytek = germans? nuff said.
No offence, but most continental people are up themselves.
just my opinion.

so i think him saying these things is normal in the continent and people are getting outraged by the fact that they are being themselves.

[Darkfiber]

It's true, most don't. Most don't even know how they get made, all they care about is Call of Duty.

[SephireX]

These guys are talented developers but they better watch their mouths or a lot of gamers won't buy Crysis 2 and they'll be without a job. Quit mouthing and start making.

[maxcer]

wow, N4G proves cryteks point with every backhanded post in this thread.

[SoulAssassin808]

Crysis 2 might end up being a pretty good game. But they need to get someone that knows how to handle press because that guys breath smells like sh*t after all the crap he's been spewing out!

[Father Murder X]

The way they are talking you would think that Crysis sold 20 million copies or something. These guys are so full of themselves. The game is going to flop.

[0LDSCH00L]

Must be refering to Sony fanboys i guess.

[led1090]

Well what have they to worry about. Crysis which was considered a failure once ends up selling arnd 2.5 million copies, the deal with nvidia to provide a copy of the game with select card fetches them loads, and warhead becomes a huge success. They could afford 2 new studios and develop a new engine. They're riding high on success. People do screw up during such times. And believe me even Modern Warfare 2 sold more than 2 million copies on the PC. So if theres hype, the game will sell no matter how stupid the PR strategy of the dev. Even if Valve were to make a PS3 game now, IT WILL SELL. Gaming is bigger than ever!

[BrianC6234]

I don't get that comment at all. Now he's lumping all PC gamers into one group and all console gamers into another? Just shut up and make your silly game.

[Meryl]

yeah right don't put us all into the same basket crytek, keep on saying things like this and you will get no sales on ps3 or x360, and pc gamers are already mad at you for dropping your standards just top put your engine onto consoles as well.
I was looking forwards to seing this engine in action seen as it reflects the reality of PC>PS3>x360, it meant no more bad multi platform games, but they keep on spewing BS, I am losing my respect for them very quickly