Top 5 PS3 Fails

There's a lot that Sony has started to do right with the PS3, especially since the fall of 2009, and more recently with the release of the PS3 exclusive Heavy Rain, already raking in some seriously great reviews. But whenever any company gets a little too high on its virtual horse, I think it's the right time to look back at the failures they came through.

[swiftshot93]

I agree with not locking FFXIII (though its looking like it wont live up to the console FF name-just like XII) and PS HOME (seriously sucks). Other than that who cares about any other of that sh1t.

[GreenRingOfLife]

the PS3 never fails. Probably written by 360 fanboys

[RememberThe357]

But anyway, I don't think that FF13 was that big of a loss. FF games traditionally do half their sales in japan and the other half everywhere else. This obviously won't follow that trend but I don't think Sony lost that much letter it go. And they still have versus.

Plus, I remember hearing Jack Trenton in an interview saying that Square bought out their exclusive deal with Sony and that in FF13's place they got FFvs13 and FF14 (as a timed exclusive). Sony failed quite a lot in the first few years, but much of that was them having to reposition themselves in the market. They had to let certain games go, but they got more exclusive content in return then they lost.

[presto717]

I dont know how sony managed to miss that one. I really just cant understand.

Sometimes I ask myself what sony is really thinking. but I dont let it bother me too much.

[Press_Agree]

gamernode.com should disappear

[-Alpha]

Sony's biggest issues were obviously in its early years. I think that FF going multiplat had to happen considering how big the 360 is in NA. It is still exclusive in Japan, and most likely FF buyers in the US are going to get the PS3 version anyway. However, for the "console wars", FF going multiplat was a big loss for Sony fans.

Lair was a huge fail just because it was hyped to the heavens and games were sparse back then. Home kept getting delayed and didn't end up having the features it was promised to, though it is still in beta. Sony's biggest problem IMO was Blu Ray as it skyrocketed the price of the PS3. Today it's great, which means it wasn't a fail. I think from a gamer perspective the BluRay and all that extra space is great, but it did cost Sony a lot and lead to people opting for the cheaper 360. From a business perspective MS was smarter in making something affordable as people decided to get it over the PS3, but in the long run, and right now, the PS3 seems like the better buy.

Of course, Sony was thinking long term and I think that in the end the PS3's Blu Ray capabilities strengthens the system. The launch was definitely it's rockiest moment as exclusives weren't as great, the PSN online was so young (remembering having to quit games to message because there was no in-game XMB?), and the cost was just too high.

@Dragun

Yeah, that's what I said: it paid off for Sony in the long run, but the 360 nabbed early next-gen adopters with a cheaper console.

[Dragun619]

"I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

Can't say it any better than that other than Sony's been making all the right moves, with revamped marketing, releasing good games, and selling the PS3 Slim for $299. From 2006 to 2010, what a difference 4 years can make. Cheers to the next 6 years in its 10 year life-cycle. Can't wait.

[italianbreadman]

Well said, Dragun

[Bathyj]

Not getting FFXIII isnt a fail.
Because when they Launch side by side and the PS3 version is better, and outsells the XBox version 3:1, everyone is going to see which console is just hitting its straps, and which console is dying relying on Natal to drag it back.

Cracks me up fanboys still have to resort to Lair, even now, which by the way got a patch for the controls, plays well, and looks better than 80% of Xbox games.

Why not throw Haze in there, blame Sony for another 3rd party title?

[WildArmed]

ff13 is kinda the big one.

the rest is w/e.

but 5 fails are nothing compared to the 200 things the ps3 does right doesn't even scratch the ps3's shiny black armor

[Beefstew4u]

Am I the only one that actually really enjoyed Lair? Ya, the controls are a little tough at first, but you get used to them. The game was pretty fun, and while the story wasn't all that great, it had a great soundtrack.

[morganfell]

If anything FFXIII is a win for the PS3 as it serves to draw the distinction between the PS3, a powerful next generation machine built to evolve, and the 360 which is hobbled by Microsoft's last gen hardware choices.

[ReBurn]

Lair was not third party, it was second-party. It was published by SCEA. And it bombed big-time, even with the control patch and the Sony "here's how to review our game" damage control.

Still, I don't think that Lair and Haze were Sony failures as much as they were fanboy hype failures. All you saw at the time was "just wait until Lair" and "just wait until Haze" and "just wait until" for practically every game. What it really took was for Sony to practically start over with the slim and a decent advertising campaign.

[Syronicus]

It was even better when the patched the controls. In the end, Lair was and is still to this day one of the best looking titles out on the market. If you have not played it, I suggest trying it before reading the reviews that knocked it. They never once said anything bad about the story or the graphics, only the controls and they have been patched.

As for Sony dropping the ball, every company has done this. Heck, MS sold millions of faulty consoles knowingly and yet they are still praised by the hardcore fanboy. I was an Xbox fanboy before I was screwed over several times with the 360. Since I grew up and realized I would rather have quality hardware, I switched tot he PS3 as my main console and have looked past the simply follies of Sony. You can't argue with great games and quality hardware with a free online service that works.

[caseh]

Gotta say this doesn't deserve to be there. Patched controls sorted out the one major complaint it received from pretty much everyone.

If anything deserves to be top of the fail list its Haze! I remember seeing the previews for it before I even had a PS3. All I could think is 'WHY is this game getting so much hype, it looks like a 10 year old PC game!'

I see it in my local store for £5 everytime I go in and don't think I will ever pick it up, not even for that price.

[Whitefox789]

Like it matters if FF 13 is multiplat. it is still exclusive to the PS3 in Japan where it has 55% of its fan base.

[WIIIS1]

They forgot the biggest fail of console history ever - the PS3 itself, going from far ahead 1st place to dead last in market share.

[Syronicus]

Sorry, I guess I didn't get the memo but when did this generation end? Do you typically call the horse race before the end of the first turn?

[rexus12345]

Sony made the right choice by not locking down FFXIII. Look at all the articles and comments we've been getting about XBox 360 is outdated, some of them are fueled by the comparison between PS3 and Xbox versions of the game.
This is Sony's ploy to make Xbox look inferior to PS3 plus it earned them some extra cash which otherwise would not be available with a PS3 exclusive.

[mayberry]

imho "home" is very good if you have "clans" and "real" friends, for the simple fact there is personal spaces to meet up in. i.e. club house, homes, apts, game rooms... etc...
lots to to to bide your time till everyone shows up!

[darthv72]

try and re brand it with the wands as the primary control interface and a few other notable upgrades (internal memory doubled, cpu speed increase, gpu performance increase) dubbing it PS4?

Seems like a plausible situation. Yet the sales of the existing ps3 would most likely need to falter to that point where it is considered a loss to continue producing it as it is. Nintendo basically did a similar tactic with the wii. Re branding the gamecube type of hardware (upgraded slightly) with the wii-mote as the center point of the package.

Seems the consumers either didn't know or didn't care and purchased the system based on the marketing strategy of casual entertainment. I don't know if sony could back peddle itself into that frame of mind. Especially with such a dedicated following. They know themselves that the entire casual market eclipses the hardcore market and making the wand seems to show their interest in tapping into that.

The same question could be posed to MS and the 360. A redesign with Natal as the focal point could be a re branding of the 360 to attract what nintendo has run away with. To succeed, it must separate itself from the previous model in a way to garner the attention of those who do not even know what a 360 is. While the potential is there, the rest of the hardware seems limiting to go forward.

Sony has a better chance of achieving a renaissance for their playstation brand simply because the complexity of the hardware inside is more suited to go forward. Marketing is the key to success. I could actually see sony restructure the PS brand in such a way to be adopted much like the Wii and yet still offer the entertainment factor hardcore and media buffs alike expect.

Will the ps3 achieve that goal of besting its previous system much like ps2 did? Time will tell but sony doesnt look to have that much patience to wait. Making the radical changes (both design and price) shortly after launch gives indication that sony may have been wrong for once in their console experience.

PS: my reasoning for questioning this is simple. Where the two previous ps consoles excelled in popularity, the third is faltering from stiff competition. Nintendo has found itself again after being against the wall the last couple of gens. MS is on a roll, besting itself previously. Sony sees the loss of market share as a sign that they need to take action. The biggest failures for the PS3 are sony believing it would sell on name recognition alone as well as underestimating the casual market.

[Saaking]

I could make a top 15 list of MS fails. Sony made some mistakes, but they're all mostly fixed now. FFXIII doesn't matter. It boosted PS3 in Japan (where it mattered) and Sony is focusing on first party TRUE exclusives now.

[cmrbe]

Sony made is letting Ken go.

[gintoki777]

they better lock down ff13 versus and any future mgs game

[slayorofgods]

#5 - I will agree. Home has been moving forward slowly. After all the hype home never really lived up to its expectations due to limited content.

#4 - Lair - I disagree. The PS3's main struggles were with early games in general. Lair really had no system selling hype to begin with, it was really 2009's line up of multiple games that really made the difference.

#3 - Earnings drag - We might as well add everyone else that suffered from the recession. Sony has begun to rebound economically showing that they are surviving / overcoming the recession.

#2 Console launch - This is easily Sony's biggest failure. This should be moved to the #1 spot.

#1 FF13 - I disagree. SE making games for MS should actually go into a list of the 360's biggest failures. In part SE has made poor games and in part because the 360 crowd has shown little interest in jrpg's. Currently, pre-orders for FF13 are favoring the ps3 in terms of selling consoles and copies of the game.

[ProjectVulcan]

From a hardware standpoint, i would have beaten the crap out of nvidia to create a custom GPU based on its unified architecture which would certainly have been under development as PS3 was, instead of allowing them to fob sony off with a cut down Geforce 7 (something like half or even a third cut down based on 8800GTX). I would have tried to squeeze in a headset with every PS3, even a wired one to the controller like 360. I would have said PS3 has to emulate PS2 games in software, with at least the top 100 games working on day one, and slowly adding in support for the top 1000 titles or so, enough to at least keep most people reasonably happy and fanboys quiet.

From a software side they had seen the sort of slick integration microsoft had achieved with its in game dashboard for a year til PS3 launched, and although its mostly fixed now, i dont know why it also was not day one in game XMB. Developer tools should also have been much better from the start, so many developers had been literally scared off the format early on. THE biggest mistake for me though was not retaining at least timed exclusivity on the GTA franchise. Love it or hate it, Lets face it, It is THE third party name to keep hold of that sony had for PS2 and let slip. Had sony announced to the world in 2007 GTA4 was ONLY on ps3, then millions of people would not have settled for microsoft's cheaper machine knowing they could not play GTA4 as it sat on the shelves. The american market would have been faced with the dilemma that their darling franchise was not on their darling american machine, This would have surely put the cat amongst the pigeons and stalled 360s uptake considerably throughout 2007/8.

Generally I think PS3 really had a poor launch, but has recovered extremely well and has proven now i think, it is easily the most forward thinking machine for a long life as sony had promised. Critics of the inclusion of bluray for example have been all but silenced as bluray beat down HD DVD, and many games demanding vast quantities of storage at this point. The idea that the price enforced by bluray's inclusion was PS3's weakest point at launch will increasingly become PS3's strongest card for me. BD drives can only ever get cheaper with PS3 but provide lasting benefits.

[solar]

the launch of the ps3 really was a huge disaster. i know a game company that stated that....and they are hated....

[N4BmpS]

This article reminds me of an interviewer whom, was doing a segment with Mel Gibson and for strange reason he brought Mel's 4 year old DWI or DUI charge what's the point of bringing it up let it go. Uh at the risk of sounding like a fanboy I do think this article is a waste, while I doubt this guy is just trying to throw dirt on the flames of the PS3, this is something a PS3 owner, like myself wants put in the past, killed off and forgotten, I just don't see a point in bringing it up anymore. We all know the PS3 came along way since 2006, thank God. The only ones who should relive that day is Sony, they have to learn from their greatest mistakes, without a doubt in my mind I can say because of the PS3's early fail People went to the 360 and Wii but I can also say they got a good amount(not all) of their fan-base back. And in specifics I don't think Sony needed to lock down FFXIII I'm pretty sure that FFXIII became a very expensive game to keep exclusive, Sony basically cut their losses and repositioned themselves IMO that's why they lost many exclusives(ie DMC 4, FFXIII) but they still got backdoor deals(VSXIII, Agent).
They didn't need to lock FF down it was getting too big.

Yes Lair was God awful, move along. You'll get a headache thinking about it. I don't have a problem with HOME soooooo, next. We know, the PS3 wasn't ubiquitous that was horrible. My point is we've reflected on this enough, Sony is still learning from those mistakes, I believe it has humbled them nearly to death but hey it's better now and if you're a gamer( a real gamer) take a chance and get a PS3 you might love a few games, you might love to hate a few games. It's worth the money I put up for it. Don't focus on the past focus on the future. That goes for the 360 and Wii things are looking up for all the consoles. It's good to be a Gamer.

[Biggest]

@gintoki777

Let us wait for the multi-plat Metal Gear before we say anything. If they can make 30+ gigs of MGS for 360, then Sony should look into "locking" it down.

[unchartedgoty]

1. UMD 2. HAZE 3.LAIR 4....... 5........IN MY OPINION THE XBOX HAS LIKE 1...2...3..4...5...6...7...8.. .9...10...11...12...13...

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

Uh, UMD is for PSP, not PS3... >_>

[evilmonkey501]

eagerly looking forward to tomorrows article called: "the top 5 fails of the xbox" I wonder which 5 they will pick?

rrod? disc scratching? firing all of their first party studios? power bricks? disc trays? Beta testing a lot of ps3 games? cheating on live? corrupt moderators? charging to play p2p online? the controllers d pad? no built in wifi? no mandatory hard drive? no BLURAY or other high capacity storage devices? I could go on forever but Im already bored....

[RockmanII7]

rrod - Fail
disc scratching - Fail
firing all of their first party studios - Exaggeration
power bricks - So?
disc trays - Once again, So?
Beta testing a lot of ps3 games - Fanboy
cheating on live - cheating on PSN
corrupt moderators - Forged video
charging to play p2p online - Fail
the controllers d pad - Not needed in most games, but when needed Fail.
no built in wifi - Ethernet cable
no mandatory hard drive - Newer versions have internal hard drive
no BLURAY or other high capacity storage devices - You can't blame MS for that, should be under 'Top 5 PS3 Wins'

I would add that newer controllers need either a rechargeable battery pack or rechargeable batteries.

[Biggest]

People may cheat on PSN. But how often is a video uploaded to YouTube that shows just that? You can count on a millipede's toes how many Xbox videos are up for just MW2 alone.

[Gue1]

talking about living in the past...

[italianbreadman]

Glad to see the PS3 has come into its own after a history like this. For a while there, things were looking rough.

[MeatAbstract]

It certainly was looking rough. Rumors of it following the same path as the Dreamcast as well at that time. But hey, Sony pulled through.

[ssipmraw]

Yeah sony has allot more money than sega,
the main reason the dreamcast failed was that the company relied wholly on the sale of their single system along side its games.
however sony sells all kinds of electronics which obviously earn more money fore the company hence they can support the system

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...99% of these internet sites are stuck in the PAST.

Hmm...like people who live in the 'xBox LIVE BUBBLE'!!! ;-D

They are set in their ways. They believe only what the internet says, it's very SAD really but like i think 'it's their LOSS, not mine' ;)

[ChrisW]

I'm going to have to agree with #1! Sony should have locked down FFXIII as an exclusive.

Reason #1: The graphics would have been better.
Reason #2: The many other things would have been better.
Reason #3: A majority of Xbox owners don't really care, thus they won't buy it.

Therefor a lost opportunity on Sony's part.

[avengers1978]

There are some good points here. They needed better games at launch, Resistance is the only game. Lair was terrible, but if you listed all the bad games and all the great games witch list is longer, hint it's the bad games. Now PS3 is clearly ahead of everything else, and consantly bring out good games, there are tons of choices, and every genre of gaming. PSN is now great! 2006 there were alot of negative things one might say against sony, but 2010 all you can say is wow PS3 is awesome.

[Wario7414]

What is the point of this article? Get a life. Maybe if you had a life, or 360 games to play, you wouldn't spend so much time writing about stuff that happened 2 or 5 years ago. Especially now that the ps3 is outselling everything.

Cmon are you serious with this article?

Get a life dude

[table]

so defensive... you can tell by the tone of writing that the guy likes the ps3. Fanboys here are a joke.

[Wario7414]

How am I defensive? Do you mean annoyed? Yea Im annoyed because people have nothing better to do than talk trash about the same thing for 4 or 5 years.

Im nowhere close to being a fanboy. Yea I have a ps3 and Im happy with it. But I don't write articles bashing the wii or the 360. I also don't go to the 360 side trolling people like YOU.

Simple fact is...its getting very old with this ps3 vs 360 stuff.

Go outside and get a girlfriend. Im willing to bet $200 whoever wrote this article does not have a girlfriend.

[BannedForNineYears]

This article is retarded.
I could make an article about the top 5 360 failures.
1. RROD.
2. Too Human
3. Battery powered controllers.
4. Paying for XBL
5. Not having Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, or LittleBigPlanet.

FYI, this list was 100% sarcastic.

[Godmars290]

#3: A non-HDD SKU.
#5: Not producing a Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, or LittleBigPlanet type game.

As for the PS3's #1, given that the 360 version of FFXIII isn't on par, unless it does sell more its going to be more of the MS folly.

[TehCell]

1. YLOD/No BC/Lame Internet Browser
2. Lair/Haze
3. Controller's triggers are slippery
4. No XGameChat/No listening to music while gaming/or movies
5. Not having Halo 3, ME2, Natal, Alan Wake

FYI, this list was 100% sarcastic

see wut i did dar

[ReBurn]

Personally I'd rather have a controller that I can easily pop a new rechargeable battery pack into than a controller that I can't do that with. You can get a 360 controller with the play and charge kit for the same price as a PS3 controller. So that one definitely should fall off the list.

[WildArmed]

Not really..
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref...

I paid abit more for my 2 360 chargable controller than my ps3 ones.
Ofc the prices are now a bit discounted, but once these were $10 bucks apart in price (for each unit).

And I do love my rechargable controllers. I plug my 360/ps3 controllers into my laptop and keep playing :)

hey, it's even more enviromental friendly. (yay me~ lol)

But I think as long as they 'did' offer rechargable controller, you can't hold it against MS... but the non-HD unit.. lets not go there.

[gtamike123]

1. RROD
2. Pay for online
3. Old Gen DVD
4. Battery needed for controllers
5. No Wifi ($100 More)

Could go on with more facts

[evilmonkey501]

really? you listen to music WHILE watching movies? I read your /s but...

[ico92]

YLOD is no where NEAR as epic as RROD i dunno why 360 fanboys bring it up when RROD is the biggest hardware failure in electronic history and thats a fact.

[gtamike123]

book of records

[Biggest]

If I were to compare the hardware failures to a deadly disease/virus. . .
YLOD = Kuru: It really sucks but not many are going to get it.
RROD = HIV: Just wait. It's gonna die. Trust me.

[MajesticBeast]

So sony made mistakes its not like M$ or Nintendo didnt make any mistakes. Sony paid for their mistakes and now they are giving gamers a wide selection games. Hate on home all you want but its a succes.

[Aaroncls7]

Biased article, made to pissoff fanboys.

[Godmars290]

Funny, sounds like the same old tired complaints that have long been beaten to death.

[WildArmed]

well it works every time...
Apparently you can't stop a dog from chasing the garbage truck.

[foxxy]

The ps3 games that you say are flops i say they are not. Only haze was really weird and corny ill give that but the rest are good.

[evilmonkey501]

Once I got that patch for Lair, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Haze however, well lets just say the xbox has too human...lol

[Jerk120]

The top Ps3 fail is the console itself.

[MeatAbstract]

I see nothing wrong with it, personally. Its got good games, good quality hardware and a nice community (apart from the mouth foaming fanboys)

I see no failure here.

[Karooo]

endgadget 2009 awards? guess which console won.

[MeatAbstract]

Articles like this are pointless. Its just an opinion piece you seem to throw at gamers as if we didn't know this stuff. We know about the HOME public beta launch. We know about Lair and the poor reviews, we know its selling at a loss and we know FF13 isn't an exclusive anymore.

So, what are you trying to achieve here? "HEY GUYS LET ME TELL ME SOMETHING YOU ALREADY KNOW!" you see what I mean? Who cares? These kind of articles are nothing more then flamebait.

Seems to me like you're digging up old news just to try and anger a few fanboys. Its pathetic.

[foxxy]

Dude im just saying Ps3 got good games and most of those games got mad heat thats all.

[Mo0eY]

I'll give a you a hint: it happens 54.6% of the time.

[Karooo]

Great article especially the last point :(

Final Fantasy XIII WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SONY. MGS4 single handedly saved the PS3 though. Sony should not have messed with FFXIII.

[evilmonkey501]

Square did it to subsidize their first real ps3 game.

[gamejediben]

I think every console this generation had lots of failures. And strangely... they also greatly succeeded in their own unique ways.

But as for Sony, I think they would have benefited immensely by not releasing their console until at least Summer of 2007. This would have made them the last console to release this generation but it would have greatly smoothed out its launch and they would also have had more (and better) software to debut.

[Ronster316]

Did they mention how hard it is to programme for? (thus delaying games like GTA 4 which had an origional release date of October 2007).

The fact that they took away backwards compatability and now sell those games back to you suckers in the form of collections? *cough* God of War.

Did they mention the arrogant high price of the console when it first came out and Sony execs expected you to get a 2nd job to pay for it?

Did they mention the never ending amount of installs and patches that the poor droids constantly have to endure?

Did they mention that the thirdstation brand has gone from 1st to 3rd in a matter of 4 small years?

That LIVE is leaps and bounds ahead of POSN?

That the CLONE known as trophies actually existed before it the form of 360 achievements.

The list is endless.

Oh, and despite a decent start, ps3's are suffering LYOD's when the console is just out of warranty, how convenient huh Droids. $150 repairs inbound.

[Mo0eY]

Did they mention how hard it is to programme for?
- The same can be said for the 360. DVD9 limits games nowadays - whereas blu-ray enables developers to use as much space as they see fit.

The fact that they took away backwards compatability and now sell those games back to you suckers in the form of collections? *cough* God of War.
- Name the last time you played an original Xbox on your 360 console. Wait, you own an Xbox so you can play it on there too? Exactly.

Did they mention the arrogant high price of the console when it first came out and Sony execs expected you to get a 2nd job to pay for it?
- I would rather have an expensive console rather than a console that scratches up your brand new games and gives you a red ring o' death within the month that you purchased it.

Did they mention the never ending amount of installs and patches that the poor droids constantly have to endure?
- What's your point? I can take a dump and be back in time to be greeted by the game screen.
Did they mention that the thirdstation brand has gone from 1st to 3rd in a matter of 4 small years?
- Did you know that the PS3 has outsold the 360 globally since it has launched? You subtract the year head start from the 360, and the PS3 is second.

That LIVE is leaps and bounds ahead of POSN?
$50 to hear racists teenie boppers talk with no dedicated servers and only 24 players max? LOL No thanks.

That the CLONE known as trophies actually existed before it the form of 360 achievements.
-How is this a fail? Notice how Microsoft replicates instead of innovates? Zune, Windows OS, Xbox, etc.

Nuff said, move along.

[awesomeperson]

"Did they mention how hard it is to programme for? ", no. It WAS hard to program for, guess what, so was the PS2. The developers who actually make an EFFORT to try and program for the PS3 (I'm looking at you Valve) mostly always are rewarded for it. Look at ND and GG, they both create superb games using the PS3 due to persevering, and end up having their games compared to PC graphics.

Also, the 360 dosent have ENOUGH to develop with, DVD 9 and inferior parts.

"The fact that they took away backwards compatability and now sell those games back to you suckers in the form of collections? *cough* God of War. "

They took away BC to make the price cheaper, dumbass. If I recall correctly the 360 has VERY FEW games which were actually bc. We are not FORCED to buy PS2 games, they just remake the best. Its not like they've made every PS2 game into PS3 games. They did a good job with the GoWC, remade in TRUE hd.

"Did they mention the arrogant high price of the console when it first came out and Sony execs expected you to get a 2nd job to pay for it? "

Actually they did mention the price. How were you expected to get a 2nd job? I don't know what you mean, MOST people are wealthy enough to afford one, and if you aren't, then don't buy it, its your choice.

Sony could have put it HIGHER in order to gain money, but instead they sold it for a big loss.

"Did they mention the never ending amount of installs and patches that the poor droids constantly have to endure? "

Ahh never ending? I've had to do a MANDATORY install on like 3 or 4 out of my 20 games. I would rather geting patches then getting the exact same patches late.

"Did they mention that the thirdstation brand has gone from 1st to 3rd in a matter of 4 small years? "

Ahh, you are one dumb individual, aren't ya? Has any one told you the XBOX brand has NEVER been in first place? Has anyone told you the PS3 has been outselling the 360 since launch, and is closing the gap rapidly.

"That LIVE is leaps and bounds ahead of POSN? "

Leaps and bounds? You mean a preetttyy interface, laggy P2P games and paying 60 bucks a year all for cross game chat. Ok.

"That the CLONE known as trophies actually existed before it the form of 360 achievements. "

How is it a clone exactly? They reward you for what you're doing. The 360 has "cloned" alot from the PS3 aswell. Its all part of the console s, you know.

"Oh, and despite a decent start, ps3's are suffering LYOD's when the console is just out of warranty, how convenient huh Droids. $150 repairs inbound. "

I don't know about you but I don't know what LYOD stands for? If you mean YLOD, the thing that affects BARELY any PS3's? Isn't it convinient how MS just have your 360 blow up every few months, even inside the repair period. So you have to send it off in its little coffin for 4 weeks, without your little baby. Then it also counts to MS as a sale! Ding Ding!

[the-show-stopper]

u ronster316 just got owned
twice

[redsquad]

High price?
You zombies bleat on about how you don't mind paying your XBL fee because you "get what you pay for". Forgotten that argument, drone?

Hard to program for? It's "hard" to learn to ride a bike, but once done, the rewards you reap are worth it. PS3 owners are seeing those reward in spades - Have been for some time.

Installs and patches? Glad to see the brainwashing is working on the stupid. Don't recall a game I've played recently that was patched for anything other than additional content.

Third place? Better 'third' and best than 'first' (sorry, 'second') and crap.

BC gone? Just because your games look last gen doesn't mean I want mine to, sunshine. But if you buy a PS3 for PS2 games then you're better off with a 360.

POSN??? Oh you spluttering tool. Guarenteed FREE ONLINE gaming is such a lowpoint for Sony isn't it... I see MS have done their work on you alright.

And you rate "achievements" as a highpoint for MS??? Yes, I'd probably agree with you there!

Mewling, foolish oaf.

[pustulio]

You told the truth now ps3 fanboys are mad!
D:!!

Hhahahaha

[ApocalypseShadow]

1.home is not a failure if sony DIDN'T SELL IT,but millions use it and it has made millions through purchase of digital items.sure,it could use the trophy room and tvs like they said it would,but it has done well for itself and looks miles better than second life,miis and "36miis."

2.lair may not have been a hit.mostly from bashing sites and 360 gamers that didn't give ANY ps3 game some breathing room.but it did well for those that like dragons.second,it proved ps3 could do 1080p and it proved that ps3 could handle tons of onscreen things at the same time.from warhawk to killzone2 to uncharted2 etc,seems ps3 can put more on screen than any other console.also....256 players anyone?is there any other console doing that?

3.yep.sony's earning took a dive.can't deny that.but at what COST in a 10 year lifecycle?oh boohoo.ps3 seems to have all of what it needs for this gen built in.no need to update to 1080p like microsoft did.no need to add more HDD space like microsoft did.no need to redesign the hardware from component to hdmi like microsoft did.seems hdmi also benefits sony with 3D movies and games.oh boohoo.they will make their money back.oh wait,KAZ says the playstation platform is already profitable.even with losses from sales of ps3.

4.all consoles don't have an outstanding launch.i helped launch dreamcast back at electronic's boutique.it was a hit in america on 9-9-99.sould calibur,nfl 2k,dead or alive.the dc was hitting and hitting strong.........where is sega now?where is sony now?sony is doing fine.psp-60 million/ps2 150 million/ps3 35 million.

5.square MADE IT CLEAR before sony even launched PS3 that they didn't want to overly support sony this gen,but not leave them out in the cold.

http://www.google.com/url?s...

**PLAIN AS DAY**

"We don't want the PlayStation 3 to be the overwhelming loser, so we want to support them. But we don't want them to be the overwhelming winner either, so we can't support them too much."

as soon as they said that and it was posted SEPTEMBER OF 2006,i knew that square was all ready to f#ck sony over this gen.but what happended?square has f#cked themselves over this gen.with shoddy work,lazy programming that can't even produce towns and NPCs,and they ended up making games for ps3.tri-ace included.loss of respect?yup.good job square.

sony got to 35 million by themselves and without much square help.seems they aren't that much of a factor without ffvii material.unless they make something that ties in to ffvii,square is almost a non factor like capcom and namco.tekken bombed just like capcom's current games.

[Sikct9a]

Great news -_-

[alphakennybody]

Quote from claudia in UC2 " Desperate time right?"

[Commander TK]

It's Chloe...

[robotnik]

the only console failing here is the one that has a 54.5% failure rate, scratches disks,expensive accesories and boring games.

I'm looking at you flopbox 360, mwhahahahahha

[mcnablejr]

i thought sony was doing much worse than microsoft....

..oh wait.

[XDF]

5. PS HOME. Is it still in Beta? That is one of the worst idea ever.
4. Keeping PS2 Alive. Should kill it so more PS3 will sell
3. Backward compatibility. Promised but took it off because of price.
2. Advertising, Advertising..not enough
1. Saaking is born.

[iceman06]

here's why...
5. Though HOME is still in beta...it provides a nice revenue steam for Sony to do whatever they want with. It is a project and not a game...therefore it will take much longer to get to the finality that we were waiting for...plus it is purely an OPTION!
4. If there is STILL a steady demand for PS2...why stop selling it. It was selling over 100,000 units a month worldwide...in it's 10th year...more revenue.
3. BC is still available on early consoles...which you can still find since there have been loads of trade-ins for the Slim. Plus, they were trying to get the price point to that sweet spot...in order to boost sales with the new Slim...which it DID!
2.Can't argue that ads were sparse...but funds were too. Sony was leveraging their brand recognition and word of mouth vs. hundreds of millions in advertising budgets...games were very successful despite the sparse ads...or crazy ads.
1. Can't argue with that....I kid Saaking...really I do!

[Kaotik1]

Short supply in early 2010!

I'm an Xbox 360 owner who is interested in buying a PS3 and was on the verge of doing so, but everywhere I went looking for the system had sold out of units! I ordered from Amazon, but it said it would ship in April! I immediately cancelled my order after realizing the arrival date. Sony lost a possible customer here. I've decided to just stick with the 360 and use my money on something else. What a royal f*** up on Sony's part

[mythamp]

Its not SONY's fault that there are 38mil xbox360 users who are dying to get rid of that junk called xbox360. I know you will buy a PS3 its only a matter of time.

[proximately]

I do wonder... what games we'll see coming to the PS3 in five to six years? .____.

[MaximusPrime]

I'm slowly moving away from N4G. Why? It an EPIC FAILURE

I popped in and greeted with PS3 doom article. Really, it's time to move on. PS3 is doing fantastic since last year.

N4G is officially a playground for fanboys and clueless kids.
I'm moving on reading news on FB or Twitter. Making comments is a waste of time.

[Jdoki]

Pretty much the only reason I visit N4G is to see the rabid fanboys arguing over pointless things.

Just got to see the funny side of this site. It's unintentionally hilarious!

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

cant wait for the top 5 xbox 360 fail

[ReBurn]

Shouldn't be a long wait. I'm sure someone is desperately scouring the internet looking for it.

[bjornbear]

esp not locking FFXIII

now look at it =/

and Home is a bit pointless for me but every time i check in there its FULL of people =O so someone is enjoying it xD

launch was definately slow compared to the other PS's, but look at it now =D

doesn't matter ^-^

[Jdoki]

Sony have made some big mistakes with the PS3 - but I don't think this list reflects that at all.

The single biggest problem with the PS3 was the time it took to lower the price, and giving the competition a head start. Everything else is a minor factor, and certianly nothign to do with a bungled launch (MS had worse stock level issues when the 360 launched).

The launch line-up of the PS3 (from a European perspective) was pretty great. I think it was just as good as the 360's launch line-up. I'd say that this generation has been the best ever for launch titles. (Still want a Kameo sequel!)

And in my opinion Sony NOT locking down GTA and FFXIII was a good thing. The quality of those titles is not as strong as previous releases. Why keep flogging dead (or dying) horses! I'd rather have some awesome new IP's.

[Panzerkanzler]

All in all the PS3 is haping up to become, and for it already is, a great console. It does gaming admirably and performs other duties very well. My personal biggest let down was HAZE. Hyped game that upon delivery turned out to be an unpolished turd with game mechanics, graphics and voice acting, seemingly, made by a drugged and beheaded week old mouse carcass. Those devs should be ashamed.

[Liamabob]

That's all I could think when reading this 'article'.

[Treyb3yond]

Not content with having nothing to blame the PS3 for these days, we have RETROSPECTIVE PS3 bashing on N4G.

Nice.

Very, very professional.

Well done.

[the-show-stopper]

not to mention stealthy lol

[prettyboy1]

1.bringing out the slim
2.lowering thier price
3.making top quality games
4.making final fantasy exclusive in the land of the rising sun
5.kicking ass and taking names from the competition

see i i spent that from negative to positive this writer is jus looking for hits with his poor logic.i mean this wouldve been perfect back in 2006 my god dude get a fu#kin life

[StarCSR]

The FFXIII thing is utter crap. Just do the math... SE is a modern company who want to make the most profit. So to secure PS3 exclusivity Sony would have to AT LEAST give up the dough SE would probably make with FFXII on 360... And tbh I don't think giving that kind of money for exclusivity is Sony's way. (if I remember correctly one of thei big honchos even said this literally in some interview last year)

[finalfantasymaster]

FF13 is the reason why I bought my PS3, so im really disappointed with that one.

[ERMAC_]

3rd party exclusives are nearly dead, Sony can't do anything to keep FF exclsuive that wouldn't hurt more than letting it go multi

[Socomer 1979]

Capcom
Namco
Square enix

They are ninja spies for sony.
They are in play to destroy xbox 360 from the inside.
after watching them closely it seems the plan is to expose how limited dvd is for videogames. They will bleed out microsofts money and make them pay for the extra dvds and the marketing for ps2 quality games with a hd update.

Dont take it personal. its just business.

[mcnablejr]

no denying that. =D

[DigitalHorror81]

Those 3 discs for Final Fantasy are where it's at.

[GRAMMAS BOY]

I TOTALLY AGREE THAT HOME SUCKS BALLS,ITS A BREEDING GROUND FOR PEDOPHILES...I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE NOT LOCKING THE FF13 THING CUZ HONESTLY WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT THE 360 VERSION?? EVERYONE KNOWS ITS A BETTER EXPERIENCE ON THE PS3 FACT. AS FAR AS THE FAILS IN LAUNCH AND MARKETING IN THE BEGINING THATS TRUE! BUT JUST LOOK AT THE POSITION THE PS3 IN IN NOW, LITTLEBIG PLANET,METALGEAR 4,HEAVY RAIN, GOD OF WAR 3.....THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING GAMES EVER MADE AND YOU KNOW IT. THE FUTURE OF THE PS3 LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND UNTIL MICROSOFT COMES OUT WITH THEIR NEXT CONSOLE THEY REALLY ARE HOLDING GAMING BACK IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL OF GAMES NOW, COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO THE CONTRAINTS ON THE 360'S LIMITATIONS ESPECIALLY FOR THE MULTI-PLAT GAMES....LOSTPLANET 2 RING A BELL? ANYWAYS AVOIDING FANBOY BACKLASH I HAVE ALL 3 SYSTEMS AND IM REALLY NOT TOUCHING MY 360...I LOVED IT WHEN I FIRST GOT IT BUT THE PS3 EXCLUSIVES ARE JUST TOO GOOD. I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I LOVE PLAYING ONLINE FOR FREE AND ALTHOUGH ITS NOT AS GOOD AS XBOX LIVE (4 NOW) WHO CARES??? HALO REACH IS THE ONLY 360 GAME IM LOOKING FORWARD TOO AND THATS SAD....ALAN WAKE? SPLINTER-CELL?? HEAVY RAIN OWNS ALAN, MGS4 OWNS SPLINTER-CELL FACT. WHO CARES ABOUT FABLE 3 HONESTLY?? LOL MY BAD FOR SEEMING MAD PS3 FANBOYISH BUT ITS THE SAD TRUTH...MICROSOFT DOESNT CARE ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS AT LEAST SONY GIVES US REAL CORE GAMES. SO TO FINALIZE THIS BEGINING OF PS3 EPIC FAIL FACT. FUTURE OF PS3 EPIC WIN AND IM PRETTY SURE THATS TURNING INTO A FACT. GOD BLESS EVERYONE AND ENJOY ONE OF GAMING BEST YEARS TO COME.AMEN.

[bobrea]

Dude. Caps lock. Seriously.

[Enigma_2099]

... didn't think so.

[gtamike123]

1. RROD
2. Pay for online
3. Old Gen DVD
4. Battery needed for controllers
5. No Wifi ($100 More)
and lots more....

[keysy420]

first off the ps2 launch was just as bad. next would you spend 4 billion to make 10 i think we know the answer there. that was a dumb point. next ff13 will still sell like a exclusive.plus if you are really a ff fan who cares about 13 when vrs is considerd the true ff of this gen. if not why isnt it ff15 then. really square just played all you 360 fanboys like it wasnt sh1t with the ff release

[Two-Face]

Home is crap, you can't deny that. If you find it somewhat fun and addicting then it is something wrong with out

[Silly gameAr]

This article came out of nowhere.

[iPad]

oh well that was back in the day. and plus, ps3 has FFvs13. exclusive.

Sony doesnt mind ff13 going multiplat

[ForROME]

I personally think SONY is a better overall company however they just got full of themselves

"next gen starts when we say it does" they didnt think the new kid xbox had it in them however it wasnt that its that SONY had no idea about the online arena and the impact it would have

This is evident in the the time it is taking SONY to get PSN up too speed.

They let a new kid come in and take a piece of its pie smear it around on their face and smile.

Next Gen PS4, I think SONY learned a lesson, take your competition seriously, and compete........with the relaunch and new marketing they woke up and are getting back to the roots of 1995 when they took the world by storm

[Biggest]

But it does seem as if next-gen just got here. Going by the recent game releases and the move to 3d/camera control, that is.

[ps3hasonlyflopgames]

the biggest fail of console history ever:

flopstation 3

nuff said.

[patronnessy]

No that would be the scratchbox three disc me

[bobrea]

This article isn't loading for me right now, but after reading your preview, this is basically a synopsis of what I believe the article will say when I load it:

"Hey PS3, you did a great job overcoming your extremely slow start and now you're seriously back in the running and competing with the 360. But just to be a d1ck, I'm going to bring back stuff from the past and remind you about how you sucked a couple years ago, nevermind the fact that it's completely irrelevant now. I just hate you and have nothing better to do."

Is that about right? Like I said, I can't read the article, but that's what your preview makes it sound like.

[Rageanitus]

final fantasy franchise was found on all consoles in the past just different iterations.

At least they did not blow 50 million on GTA

[Rageanitus]

5) Home imo was a waste of time and it should have just stayed as concept.
4) you cant blame sony for lair you have to blame the developer but it was the first to bring out the use of the six axis
3) ummm short term losses big time gains... and its showing
2)at least they did not rush out a busted product ahem .
1) less money spent on ffx means more money on other products... this is how they succeed with ps1 and ps2. Again pointing back to short term losses big term gains.

[Midgard228]

1)xbox 360
2)dvd
3)pay2play
4)ms
5)rrod
6) no rechargable batteries
7) error e47
8) disc scratching
9) sounds like a plane
10) so many timed exclusives
and thats just me being nice lol

[mega BIG time]

they forgot to mention the developer unfriendly architecture that caused so much bad publicity in the early life of the ps3

[Midgard228]

and the fact that the ps3 has the best exclusives this gen, u know the list, so that hard to develop crap is garbage :3

halo odst faces vs uncharted 1's faces,

lmao wtf am i talkin about a fairer comparision is

halo odst faces< final fantasy 10 (ps2 launch title)

and that my friend is no lie

[mega BIG time]

was i dreaming then when major developers were complaining that the ps3 was beast to tackle? That the 360 was much more familiar to what they were used to developing on?

I'm not attacking anyone. For the life of me i can't figure out why some ps3 gamers need to throw fists whenever anyone criticizes their beloved console.

[GRAMMAS BOY]

I hope the next x-box comes out with a better controller..It feels so clunky and american but then again americans just LOVE BIG dont they! lol word.