Sony To Get its Own "Gears of War" like I.P. from Epic

Half way through this podcast hosted by Zdmedia.net they touch base on the Sony & Epic deal. It is stated that Epic and Sony might be working on a PS3 game that deals with the Gears of War universe not necessarily Gears of War 2. The deal that Sony and Epic signed was a multi-part deal, so there could be other things besides the UT3 exclusivity deal.

[SilvaSurfa]

But what the heck. Whats the point of "open forum" if you cant state your opinion. That being said. Fanboys have your way with my bubbles. But you won't you change my beliefs. /End Rant

The problem starts here. Only because under normal circumstances this would be a great thing to non-fanboy or fanatic gamers. But instead its going to be a triple decker backlash sandwich. Only because of two noble statements that were rode into enternity. The first one being.

"PS3 cannot do Gears of war in its current state."

The truth be told this statement was misquoted by fanboys of the Xbox in such a horrible way. In all actuallity all that was being said by epic is. They would have to re write the U.E. Code or optimize it to run on the PS3. They didnt actually mean The PS3 console was incapable of doing Gears of War at all.

Then their is this:

From joystiq.com:
[QUOTE]
"We pushed the 360 to the limits," Gears of War QA manager Preston Thorne told Siliconera at last night's Hollywood launch party. While obviously an inflammatory remark, there could be some truth to the statement. After all, it was Epic that allegedly convinced Microsoft to bump up Xbox 360's RAM to 512 MB -- and Epic still maintains that 256 MB would not be enough to run Gears in its current state.
[/QUOTE]

EDIT: I am by no means saying PS3 is getting Gears. Im just showing the change of events. How it went from "PS3 cant do gears" to PS3 is getting its own rendition not to mention PS3 is running the Unreal Engine very well. If you add 2 and 2 together you get. PS3 will have a Gears of War like I.P. and it will run smoother than Gears. I dont see how this is an insult to Xbox fans. Its a huge hooray to any gamer. A game that will be similar to Gears but run better. That is awesome. Especially if you own a PS3. Now you have that to look forward to along with KZ2,UT3,Haze 3 other blockbuster shooters.

[Omegasyde]

Great opinion piece with no clear showing of fanboyism.

You deserve a bubble(s).

I however disagree to a point. As far as Epic saying,"they pushed the 360 to the limit", I find that hard to believe. A counter example would be when Final Fantasy X and GT4 developers said they pushed the ps2 to its limit last generation. That of coarse wasn't true and many better looking games came out later.

The same can for the 360 now, but of coarse there isn't any better looking games than Gears right now. You also have to consider that Gears of way came out in November 06, about a year later from the launch. Factor is that the 360 is only about 2 years old.

Truth be told as well. Many developers have stated that the ease of programming code for the 360 will be also be part of its achilles. Since developers like to save cost(Ex port a PC game over) , they won't go the extra mile and show any graphical differance from the PC. This is where MS will burn themselves, since the developers aren't going the extra mile to take advantage of the 360 hardware. Copy and Paste. Repackage, add achievements, call it a day.

The same goes for 360->PS3 ports at the moment since developers won't bother with the time or learn the architecture of the the ps3.

Epic basically went off the specs of the 360, compared the RAM useage w/ PC and stated they couldn't do much better. The 360 still has a few tricks,(Bioshock) to show what its capable of. I just think Epic wanted to created a "Best game of the ps3", like they did for MS.

If they Manage, they will be the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be.

[Hayabusa 117]

While I'm not saying you are a fanboy, but your "triple backlash" does sound somewhat biased.

You say people were wrong to say "Gears cannot be done on the PS3 in it's current state". Aand quite rightly so. I had no idea how much detail the PS3 could handle, but after seeing unreal 3, it was pretty obvious that the PS3 could also handle those kind of graphics.

But then, about the comment on "Gears of War pushes the 360 to the limit" you say it could be true. Yet, I think this comment is just as untrue as the other. I remember Tecmo saying DOA 4 pushed the 360 to limit. All devs keep repeating these lines. "This game can only be done on the X console", "this game pushes hardware to limit", e.t.c. And then what happens? It ends up on another console. Another game comes out that looks even better. I believe the PS3 could run Gears. And regardless of whether or not the PS3 is more powerfull than the 360/vise versa, I believe both consoles have alot more to show us than Gears of War.

Thank you for stating your opinion none-the-less.

[JsonHenry]

I have ONE question - How is it that UT3 is an exclusive? The 360 and the PC both are getting the game. Just the Xbox 360 version is coming about 4-6 months later. (and the devs said the game looks "slightly better" on the 360 so far)

The ONE thing I am giving Sony mad brownie points for though - MODS MODS MODS coming the PS3!! Most people will never use them, but the option being there is massive steps forward for a console. I prefer my 360 so far, but Sony is making some darn good steps forward IMO.

[i Shank u]

hell yea man, mods are sic, always cool to see what people make. no 360 Mods hurts, add to that the PS3 version lets you use keyboard and mouse, and I know im waiting to get my PS3 for this game. and I like to play on 360 damnit

[clownfacemcgee]

You said Haze 3. Lol, it's the first iteration of the game. But I don't understand the comment. Epic said that Gears was pushing the 360 to it's limits. Then Tecmo says DOA4 was also doing the same thing according to Hayabusa 117. But PS3 devs are saying the opposite. Evolution (who made Motorstorm) claimed they are using 10% if I recall. Naughty Dog (who are making Uncharted: Drake's Fortune) said the game will use 40%-50% of the PS3's power by the time they're done with it.

I don't know if there's any truth to these statements, but it's interesting to see the different ways devs react to the systems. Some say they're just touching it, to hype the system. Others say they're pushing it to the limits to hype the game. I would think hyping the game would be more to their advantage, but I don't know. Mybe, if you need people to buy the system (i.e. PS3) you might want to hype the system. I just think this shows how they're all full of 5hit.

[risk]

pushing the system id different ways maybe. i havent played doa4 or gears but maybe they are different ways of pushing it doa4 is a fighting game and maybe they were pushing high detail textures with a huge level with independant physics, and gears pushed it in the gameplay with textures but didnt have too many players on screen at once, and not too much of a view to see i dunno i never played both games but thats the only thing i can think of.

[Raptors]

Excellent comments. Bubble for you...

[sony fan]

"WE DON't BUY EXCLUSIVES" Then they jump all over Epics nuts to get UT3 to be. Then they bust out their wallet for a gears wannabe exclusive. Who can still have confidence in sony after all the crap they feed people? And they are not only paying for an exclusive and copying MS but they are also admitting how the PS3 does not have any games that come close to what the xbox has. Can us sony fans be any more pathetic?

[zantetsuken]

Mark Rein said UT3 was running better on PS3, than Gears was running on 360. http://www.n4g.com/tech/New...

[Silvanos]

1.8 - HOW PATHETIC IS SONY???
"WE DON't BUY EXCLUSIVES" Then they jump all over Epics nuts to get UT3 to be. Then they bust out their wallet for a gears wannabe exclusive. Who can still have confidence in sony after all the crap they feed people? And they are not only paying for an exclusive and copying MS but they are also admitting how the PS3 does not have any games that come close to what the xbox has. Can us sony fans be any more pathetic?"

You sound like you need a hug.

[risk]

nobody hugs smelly people...dont you know? ;p

[SuperSaiyan4]

Gears of War and all that is affliated with Gears of War is under licence with EPIC and Microsoft Games Studios, its like allowing HALO wars to come to the PS3 its HALO - a registered name and or trademark of Bungie and Microsoft Game Studios.

There cannot and will not be ANY Gears Of War affliated game unless they change the name completely or something.

EDIT: Hey silvasurfa EPIC never said Gears of war was pushing the 360 to its limits, Cliffy B actually said they had only touched the surface of what the 360 can do in an interview just after its release.

What they did say was how they were using all 3 cores and all 6 threads in the 360 so making full use of the power available in what they can do at the time.

Some people need to READ better.

[SilvaSurfa]

From joystiq.com:
[QUOTE]
"We pushed the 360 to the limits," Gears of War QA manager Preston Thorne told Siliconera at last night's Hollywood launch party. While obviously an inflammatory remark, there could be some truth to the statement. After all, it was Epic that allegedly convinced Microsoft to bump up Xbox 360's RAM to 512 MB -- and Epic still maintains that 256 MB would not be enough to run Gears in its current state.
[/QUOTE]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006...

You cant make that up.

[Devilbringer]

OWND

[xbox360migs]

OXM magazine recentley played UT3 on the 360 using the enhanced unreal engine since GOW a year ago and this is what they had to say...

"The play test kicked off inside (and out) a giant wheel-shaped space station. What struck us like a bolt of lightening seeking out a hairdryer was that the already staggering Unreal Engine 3 - so impressive in Gears of War - had been tweaked to even greater levels of visual excellent and performance."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/articl...

Is it not possible for improvement after a year has passed or are we going to dwell on year old quotes and flame.

[tonsoffun]

I was under the impression that MS held the liscence for the first two gears of war games, but not the gears of war universe - so theoretically, they could release a gears type game set in that universe, as long as it does not include any of the main characters from gears.

[Cook1eMan]

I for one agree that this is not likely at all to happen. Why in the hell would microsoft let their newest biggest franchise slip from the hands.(My opinion, from whats been shown halo is done) I'm really confident and saying that microsft will open up their wallets and give epic what they want to keep the game exclusive.

[techie]

:/

[CrazzyMan]

X360... WHY ARE YOU COMING TO PS3 RELEATED THREADS?
YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT BUYING PS3 AND LOOKING FOR A REASON OR WHAT?

p.s. anyone to help return my 4th bubble back? thnx. =)

[Hayabusa 117]

Because they're gamers as well.

@ shank

I agree with you. I hope it pushes Microsoft to be alot more open about extra content.

[i Shank u]

Dont act all crazy. man. ^like what he^ said , we're all gamers.

I could careless if Gears goes to Ps3 and all I play is 360. Honestly I kind of hope Epic f*cks them over because how they treat epic over releasing content and $hite.

[techie]

Some of you people are very strange. Agreeing and disagreeing with my confused face. Read into it much, non?

[nomad117]

just a game like gears you know a killer app don't be so stupid stupid

[incubus5187]

i totally agree with you a gears of war title for ps3 will be awesome

[Bloodmask]

If you state Gears of War pushed the Xbox360 to its limits how come he said this in his interview................

Cliffy B declares in an interview that:

"I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, I think we'll definitely push it much further"
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I don't think you should bash N4G and say you will take your opinion elseware. When you are the one being the fanboy.

[SilvaSurfa]

I never said that. You did. Read what I said before mis quoting me. And if you want to know where I got it from then read my response to super saiyan 4. Thanks

[Bloodmask]

Then their is the "Gears of War pushed the Xbox360 to its limits". Now this one is really going to hurt Xbox fanboys because. If this game pushed the Xbox to its limits last year and PS3 is running the same engine this game was built on but better. Then what does that say about PS3?

Don't lie

I'm happy that Epic is going to release a new IP for PS3 but you just turned this into a bashing session. Grow up.

[drtysouf21]

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

and now ladies and gentlemen take a look at this

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

see how he changed his also

He called me desperate, truly sad and pathetic yet look at
what he was doing himself. Don't let him fool you he is
the biggest anti Sony person on this site just look at his old
comments all his submitted stories and all the sony hating articles
he posts that end up in the failed section. Here's a funny one
he tried to post

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

if you notice those screen shots they say press L2 on one of them
which clearly lets you know they are PS3 shots taken from the PS3 section of IGN.

[MikeGdaGod]

good find, i especially like the last link

u nailed his @ss

[TheMART-sucksdick]

Now everybody calm down!!! I'm betting 300 comments.

Anyone else?

[unbiased]

maybe they can push 360 a bit more and maybe they can't
One thing is for sure and thats PS3 has a long way too go before its "Maxed out"

agree?

[boi]

agreed

anyways whats this about Gears?!?!?! they making a game like Gears not Gears so stop the arguing...its like any artical with Gears in it fanboys start a big war lol

its a new IP nothing to do with Gears but GEARS LIKE IP meaning 3rd person most properly but nothing to do with GEARS! ...thats it easy to understand!

[jay3]

Dude, that first reply post.

Ouch.

[unbiased]

and call is Gears of battle. and copy almost everything so there not breaking contract with Microsoft.

I know its a dumb idea for the name, just trying to make a point

[Daz]

Fanboys never stop fighting. we dont know what both systems are able to do because someone said this is taking for aadvantage of the power of 360/ps3 dont mean its true.

Just be happy that the ps3 getting a new ip from epic whats this got to do with microsoft?

[kingboy]

http://www.shacknews.com/fe...

Shack: What are your thoughts on AGEIA's PPU hardware? Any thoughts about how that's going to take off?

Mark Rein: One thing AGEIA's done that's really smart is that--well, if you've seen our PS3 demo, and this is really version .1, really not a finished performance at all, but we've got some really great cool physics things going on PS3. They've done a really good job of optimizing their library to work well with the SPUs in the Cell processor, which means we're going to be able to get a lot of physics performance out of PlayStation 3. Also on Xbox 360 to some extent, but definitely on PS3 we're going to be able to get a lot of physics capabilities out of that. Which means that, to bring [games using those methods] to a PC, you're probably going to need the hardware. Or you could maybe scale it up even further on the PC, I believe, with their hardware. I think that bodes really well for them if developers go nuts and do really cool physics on PlayStation 3, then if people want to play it to that level on PC, they'll buy the card.

[X_GAMER_X]

Gears of War "Just Scratched the Surface" of Xbox 360 Potential
Cliffy B declares in an interview that "I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, I think we'll definitely push it much

http://digg.com/gaming_news...

[Daz]

I thought this fred is about a new ip for the ps3 it dont seem like it.

[Ghoul]

AFAIK Gears of war is a EPIC I.P. not Microsoft.
Not that i care but i tought the rights about the I.P. are on the side of Epic not Microsoft.

[rosko486]

Man, everytime I hear the name Cliffy B, I cringe. Such a childish name.

[timmyp53]

lol .. hmm epic is a good developer i wonder what we'll get?(if true)

[GaMr-]

Well let me help out.

*runs in phonebooth, runs back out as SuperXboxfanboy*

Well to all you Sony fanboys/girls out their. Your getting a spin off and your going to suck it up. But when Kojima-San was offering a spin off the metal Gear universe you guys bashed and laughed at us. So you know what this is the same thing. Spin off is a spin off... How's that for a news spin.

*Removes Xboxfanboy outfit*

Ok guys im back. Well I hope that will help give make this thread a little more equal. I wasnt trying to add fuel to the fire. But the Xbox guys are getting it handed to them on a silver platter. So use my little comment as some ammunition. It will make you feel better about your console in seconds. lol

Have a good day all. And stop the fighting. Its sunday for crying out loud (im in the states)

[Robotz Rule]

It's time for your chill pills XBOTS!

[caboman]

good :P

[killercam19]

cliffy b was saying that they pushed it as far as the could last year that doesnt mean they maxed out the console...........and i hope MS sues them if they do a game like that which deals with the gears universe

[Violater]

It is far more likely that Gears lies within the Unreal Universe.
So don't try throwing around the legal hammer just yet.

As far as Gears goes, thats a pretty damn impressive looking game no one can dispute that.
It's hard to really say if the PS3 can have a game looking like Gears unless you put Gears itself on the PS3( with the same colors lighting etc so you can compare apples to apples) , a spin off just might take care of that. Or we can look at games like Unchartered that arguably looks just as good and certainly does so much more.

It will be interesting indeed to see how this one turns out.

[CrazzyMan]

very soon ps3 will be a must have to every gamer. :)

of course sony haters may disagree.. it`s hard to fight with ilness...

[kornbeaner]

I'm not really sure if the PS3 needs a Gears like I.P.

Epic is already doing UT3 and that looks awesome. Killzone 2 is coming and that looks great as well.

not to mention we also have Drakes fortune coming to the PS3 and while not in the same environment as GEARS it does share a lot of the mechanics seen in GEARS. I'd rather Epic give the PS3 something more original then a Gears spin-off.

If they want to give us the real thing then am all for it, but not in much mood for a spin-off.

<EDIT>

If your gonna disagree with someone at least have the balls to let that person know why, sackless losers.

[mcintosh233]

I think epic is pissed with M$ at the moment because epic wanted to update GOW like they do with Unreal T games but M$ made them charge and didn't give them enough freedom.

I think this and the xbox unreal T situation is a power play by epic basically telling M$ they are not the boss, and epic will make games the epic way

They had big arguements about pricing on dlc in spring

I like it how epic are sticking up for themselves and not bowing to the pressure

EDIT: how have i lost a bubble, i'm not slagging anyone only saying it as i see it

[SofaKingReetodded]

and it's similiar to what I've been saying, EPIC are PC gamers thru and thru. I know, I have been playing their games for over ten years.

PC gaming means, FREE MAPS, FREE MODS, FREE ONLINE just to name three of the most important reasons why the Microsoft/Epic might be souring a little bit. Microsoft wants to leash them into a one trick pony for the 360 and EPIC is not having that. They value their independence and love to push the technological envelope.

Let's put it this way, Killzone 2's showin at E3 was more about selling DEVELOPERS on the PS3 than it was to sell the general public on it. The public doesn't make games, DEVELOPERS do, and Sony knows this.

Cliff took one look at the KZ2 demo and did his best ghetto "awwww helllll no", we can do just as good on the PS3"

This actually excites me as we will get some really wild stuff on the PS3 thanks to these guys.

[BoneMagnus]

I own a 360, and love Gears...

I will be getting a PS3 eventually; I'm itching to get one, and I'm glad to see the competition regarding FPS games. Look how MS has stepped up their game this gen with RPGs - and how Sony has stepped up their game with FPS this gen.

I get excited when I see a must-play game on a system I do not yet own.
It means that the hobby I love is doing well, and that competition is strong and the other company has to respond. Besides, I know I will play all the great games eventually...its all about patience and enjoying what you have right now.

[Cartesian3D]

hope to see its name and genre as soon as possible..

it will be a shooter for sure, and hope it will be as good as Gears in term of gameplay and so much better in term of graphics.. GEARS was so HUGE and unique..

and EPIC want to attract ps fans too.. one of the bes devs ever..

good luck epic

[SofaKingReetodded]

you would get "gears" without online glitching, drops in framerate and a much more expansive battlefield via way bigger maps than the 360 can run.
Not to mention you would actually fight a REAL LOCUST army and not just a five man pick-up team like on the 3FIXME.

A Gears like game that squooshes it's predecessor would be a nail in the coffin of the 360.

[Hayabusa 117]

I know Gears of War is glitchy online, but when does the framerate ever fall?

EDIT: no, that's lag. On his side of the globe, he's shot your head off. On your side, the information hasn't reached your XBox yet,so you're still aiming and shooting. Then, it catches up, and it goes straight to the your death. Oblivion is an example of a game that has framerate drop problems. (especially if you use the copy glitch too much)

[SofaKingReetodded]

while Gears doesn't LAG most of the time, it has plenty of framerate drops online, ever play chicken with an opponent as you both get ready to shoot at each other and next thing you know it jumps to an animation of your head popping like a balloon? that my friend is a framerate drop or EVEN WORSE YET a big sign of the 360's inability to run enhanced animations.

[jaaz]

I'm not sure why so many Xbox fans think this can not happen. Like it or not, Sony and Epic have all of a sudden become partners in a very significant deal. Phil Harrison mentioned it was a "multi-part deal" yet he mentioned only one 2 parts of that deal--1) UT3 a time exclusive on consoles (PS3) and 2) the optimazation of the Unreal engine on PS3 through cooperation between Sony and Epic.

Is it really that hard to believe after that shocking announcement, that a third part of that deal is that Sony and Epic are working on an exclusive title set in the GEARS universe, which has already shown to be successful? Despite what some may WANT to believe, M$ does NOT own GEARS and all of its IP rights. It was an exclusivity deal, the exact details of no one but M$ and Epic knows.

[Ghoul]

Not suddenly mate.

The originall ut3 techdemo to be ever released to public was a ps3 demonstration. so its no supprise to me that ut3 runs that good on a ps3 right now, btw anyone wanna buy my 360 ???

[mightydog01]

I AGREE WITH YOU THERE,EPIC OWNS THE RIGHTS IS JUST THEY MADE A DEAL WITH MICROSOFT TO RELEASE IT ON 360 ALL THAT MICROSOFT OWN IS THE NAME NOT THE GAME. SO YES PS3 GOT A GOOD CHANCE IT WILL COME OUT WITH MODS WHY M$ DRYS TO CONTROL AND DRYS TO CALL THE SHOTS, EPIC WANTS FREEDOM TO GROW

[ivant]

If they are going to do a shooter, they could easily do a better version of Gears of War will the all the experience they have. But there are so many shooters of the Gears, COD, Haze type.
why not aim for the top? That will send the shivers down Microsofts back for messing wtih the wrong developer.

[SimmoUK]

Well done Sony they've got in with Epic and now there getting all the love, UT3 exclusive until who knows when the developer didn't even seem interested when it was coming to 360 in the interview PLUS there getting a game published by them which meens no love for 360 for a while because there working with PS3 and Sony Microsoft will have to wait a while now...

Good news Epic has alot of influence in the industry today :)

[ElementX]

Awesome, another Epic game for me to enjoy. GoW was awesome, I can't wait to see what they come out with this time for my PS3!

[Ggame]

I already known that why Reeve confident in his state. (PS3 will win by March 2008)

[Says you]

Scratch the surface of the XBox 360 which by the way does look like that Epic did scratch half of it away I mean come on how can they not scratch the surface of the XBox 360 considering every XBox 360 fans keeps bragging how excellent Gears of War is you would have to be nuts if you think that Epic did not scratch even some which they did!.

[killercam19]

I cant even call myself a fanboy for the 360 cus i am buying a ps3 this Christmas i can just honestly say that i prefer 360 at the moment

[BoneMagnus]

Epic is going to announce this new IP and everyone is going to say its better than Gears...

Then they will show Gears 2 - which will make everyone to question everything again and back and forth it goes.

Epic will be laughing all the way to the bank as they constantly try to out do themselves, and gamers will be very happy.

[Dogswithguns]

Gears.

[ReconHope]

this, whats with the kindness epic?

[ReconHope]

was possible 2 disagree with a question. it seems like someone is just going through ps3 news and disagreeing with everyone.

[ReconHope]

or something..

[UJUSTLOSTONE]

I wonder what the title will be, I can't take this
the suspense is killing me.

Anywho, Sony and Epic working together can only be a good thing
I hope its in the Third person Perspective like Gears was.

Gears is a great looking game, and if Xbox 360 had another orignal IP that looked like, and was as original as gears, I would have picked that system up.

Ps3 just happens to offer more variety in the genre I like best, Action adventure.

So c'mon Epic and Sony do your stuff

[thereapersson]

If the prospect of a game like this is announced for the 360, the fanboys come out in waves to praise it, but if the potential for the PS3 to get a great game is announced, all the 360 fanboys will do is disagree with every positive thing said on the matter.

That stated, i'm actually interested to see what this might be, if this news turns out to prove true at least. I'm already itching to play UT: 3 on my PS3 because the added mouse and keyboard support will enhance playability that much more. In such a fast-paced environment such as UT: 3's, I can't see playing it on anything less precise.

Edit: Oh, and please be kind to my bubbles as I just registered and am still new to the whole N4G thing. I've lurked a while, however and always try to make unbiased posts despite my personal thoughts on certain matters. Thanks!

[theaceh]

Welcome to N4G, bubbles to u!

[xTCx Death]

i think the main thing people are overlooking here is that epic doesnt have the man power to crank out a 3rd game any time soon.

they have there people working on UT3 for 3 different platforms and Gears of War 1 updates and Cliffy has already hinted at that gears of war 2 is already in the thick of development. if there is a game for the ps3 set in gears universe dont expect it till 2009.

[Nicosia]

Yep same thing i was thinking. I think there keeping Gears 2 (like a announcement) for X07.

[Hayabusa 117]

I don't see how Gears 2 would be announced this year, considering it's less than a year since it came out. I reckon this new PS3 game will be what they'll work on next, since they've practically finished with UT3.

[Nicosia]

Mwah its just a little podcast, can we also believe the podcast from ''MGS4 will come to xbox'' thing? People should take this with a grain of salt. They might make a exlcusive ''gears of war'' game, but remember for the REAL Gears of War you should buy the x360. Same thing with MGS4 though.

Funny thing though, when gears was only 360.. people kinda hated it. IF its goes on another platfom..its a genuis game.

[lVlemphizStylez]

personally I think Gears looks good but people are so easily fooled...You play the game in 5 feet of space in front of you and side to side for almost every level..They really put you in these hallways or hallway like environments for the whole game so they can get those pretty graphics without slowing down the game. Not to mention fighting like 5 dudes on screen is kinda lame. Its a decent game, but I think people got fooled hardcore in just how much of an achievement it really was. I think someone said it best, you dont fight hordes of locust armies, you fight a 5 man pick up team of them at a time...Not to mention the multiplayer is so horribly boring and linear...Halo appealed because of maps like Coagulation and Zanzibar...8v8 real games...not a 4v4 hallway battle where its a race to like the one torque bow and sniper rifle on the map..

[gnothe1]

SONY AN EPIC SONY AN EPIC!! man you Sony boys really have no idea!! one of you guys said MS doesn't own gears, YES THEY DO!! MS not only published the game they funded the project also. Epic had no budget to work with, what ever they needed they got, that's why they signed the deal to make this game a trilogy(3 parts for all you youngans) same with mass effect(trilogy) an Too human( trilogy) MS believes in these games so there backing them 100%, so therefore anything related to these games belongs to MS.like singing a deal with the devil, I'LL GIVE YOU THE MONEY YOU NEED AN I'LL OWN YOUR SOUL(GAME)

Now Epic wants to get the PS brand to bleed cash for them like MS an the xbox brand does!! unreal shooters have NEVER sold that well on the PS. but on the other hand all the games in the Unreal universe have sold well on the xbox, WHY? because XBOX is a shooters console!! now lets move on to the PC, thats where EPIC an UNREAL was born. who OWNS the PC, you guessed right MICROSOFT!! so Epic knows there money is in the back with the PC an xbox, so they have to do all they can to get the same thing going on the Playstation brand!!then they could have MILLION copy sellers on all fronts(PS,PC,XBOX) so do you guys really thing that EPIC would turn its back on the 1 company that really got them where they are today for sony!!! only a fanboy would think so!!

[thereapersson]

MS doesn't "Own" the PC. Sure, they might take up the majority of the market share, but they don't "own" the PC world (as much as they would like to think so). I guess we might as well say that's mostly the case though because most games are designed around Windows.

Epic does know where the money is at though, however I'm wondering why they don't bother with Mac development considering they're developing on the PS3 which has (at this current time) a pretty low install base.

Either way, the Gears of War series is still coming to XBOX as a main priority, as like you stated MS owns most of the rights to the series. This news doesn't discount a "Gears-LIKE" experience, however, and Epic could probably pull it off seeing as how they were the ones who developed Gears.

We'll see what happens in the next coming months...

[apoc06]

using that logic, that means that epic turns their back on MS every time they release a version of UT that runs on linux?

[Dudeson42]

It's a story like this that really shows a split between gamers. There are two types of people reading this story.

1.Rabid fanboys who, for whatever reason, feel threatened that a game similar to one on a certain system might be released on a different system, which causes them to feel left out/threatened that their system may suddenly disappear before their very eyes. These people typically own just one of the systems in question, and are fiercely opposed to the other.

2. Guys like me who own both systems, not because I'm rich but because that is what I chose to spend a bit of my money on. Who loved playing the original game in question and when we hear that another similar game may be in production, regardless of what system it's on, can only be happy and reply "cool...".

So in keeping with this trend I will comment:

Cool...

[BoneMagnus]

I don't own both systems - yet.

But when you compare the combined price of the consoles to high end PC - it is still less. I'm certainly not against PC gaming - I'm just offering some perspective of price.

And real gamers just appreciate great games. I'll never play Crysis unless it is offered on a console or perhaps many years from now whenever I buy a new computer that happens to be able to run it, but i still follow the game because it is good for our hobby.

[thereapersson]

MS doesn't own the rights to the UT series, just the Gears of War games. It's why Epic can continually make different iterations of the UT games, but why Gears of War will most likely stay on the 360 and PC where it will run on Windows software. Still tied to MS even though it moved away from the 360 environment.

[vidoardes]

Actually, your wrong. MS don't own s@#t as far as I can see. As for MS owning the rights for the 'Gears Universe', not according to the offical XBox website, and I quote:

"Unreal® and Gears of War® are registered trademarks of Epic Games, Inc. All rights reserved."

and as for it staying with MS, not going anywhere else, here is a video of an interview with Mark Rein, confirming that the game would be released for the Mac

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[gnothe1]

no MS doesnt excatly OWN the PC world but there atleast 80% market share to 12% mac an 8% linux (just guessing) but what i'm saying is that MAJORITY of everything built for PC's is built for WINDOWS what is MS owned.
quote from you(Epic does know where the money is at though, however I'm wondering why they don't bother with Mac development considering they're developing on the PS3 which has (at this current time) a pretty low install base) because for one the Mac has NEVER been known for its gaming abilities but the PS3 is an it has the POTENTIAL to sell MILLIONS an they know that. Plus the PS3 is made for that GAMING.

if I had a product an there was 3 potential markets why would I limit myself to just 2 of them. great example MS trying to play in JAPAN, its not looking good but there trying to tap into that market. in the U.S an Europe the 360 is doing great in Japan not so great. EPIC, on the PC an xbox(U.S,Europe)there doing great on the Playststion(japan)there doing not so great, you get the idea!!

an for anybody that thinks I'm offended by this news an think I'm crying about itan being a fanboy, your so far from the truth!!

[thereapersson]

It's cool, you don't have to show you're not a fanboy because frankly I don't really waste my time on that stuff. I respect your opinion and I do see where you are coming from on the matter. I just figured I would maybe get some clarification on the point you argued is all.

Glad we can both agree that whatever comes out we can be sure that EPIC will take the time to make it a stellar title.

[Dudeson42]

Just for the hot DC sitting there. Got mine rocking this weekend as well. Virtua Tennis FTW!!!

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Let Gears go to 360, PS3 needs a new IP, I dont want that limited color pallete fragfest on PS3

@thereapersson
Killzone is cool(besides the blood and even explosions are in stark contrast to rest of the colors as opposed to Gears, which almost feels like one of those first color movies that really didnt have much color). I dont want that from Epic again. Epic should do something in the present day or near future. Something unique. Something with tons of blowing stuff and rubber duckies.

[thereapersson]

There are many games besides GoW that use or will be using a "limited color pallette" in the engine. It's all in the art direction and environmental design. Besides, GoW is a game set in a battlezone environment, so it's not exactly going to look like a day at the beach.

This is my last bubble on this article, otherwise i'd be able to continue this discussion past this point.

[thereapersson]

Anyway, as I was saying, there are many games that use limited color palettes, but that doesn't make them bad games. Take Resistance, for example. That game didn't have a very wide range of color but what it did worked for the game's atmosphere and general art direction. Same with what Killzone 2 is looking to be like. The KZ2 videos showcased war on the overly-industrialized Helghast planet, plus it was at night, so everything looks gray and dreary and war-torn. Again, that's just the art style of the game, seeing as how it's a war game and all. Gears of War had its own style and it worked for what the game set out to achieve.

UT: 3 looks to be a fast-paced, colorful, bright online shooter. Lots of neon, bright lights, and big explosions mixed with stark metal backgrounds and rocky terrain. What UT's visual approach will achieve remains to be seen, but i'm sure it will be that way for a reason.

[andron]

Of course PS3 can run GoW and the Unreal engine.

But they better fix the controls before making an GoW game on PS3 ;)

[tudors]

IMO this is good for the industry, we have AAA titles coming to both consoles Xbox-360 and PS3, they are both very capable machines which can offer great games, I see no reason why they cannot both do very well from the next gen. Nothing the PS3 has done so far has made me want to sell my Xbox-360, this is a good thing because I cannot afford both, but if I had a PS3 I would be happy also because the games are coming to both consoles.

I see equal shared success.

[Darkiewonder]

Epic should make some Killer Teddy Bear game. Just an idea to be thrown around.

[Vip3r]

Yeah like Littlebigplanet gone psycho.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Dreams

[TruthHurts]

blowing away ANYTHING on the 360.

yeah, i`m pretty sure you said that was a DREAM to.
or MGS4 staying on the ps3 was a DREAM.

I THINK YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

these are three useless comments (mine included for pointing out that these are useless comments)

[TheMART-sucksdick]

YEP!

[Hayabusa 117]

I'll tell you what I love about this thread: watching the Sony fanboy's sing praises to Gears of war :)

[lVlemphizStylez]

not everyone is doing that.....I already expressed my opinion on this game earlier in this thread...Id rather they dont bring it to the PS3 if they dont fix the whole hallway shooting stuff and get more than a handful of dudes on the screen...Feel like you play the game in a 4x4 box...

[DaEnforcer]

Do we really need a max 4vs4 on screen game?

[supnub5]

i was thinking about it a lot and even yesterday i had a dream about it. Though is it exclusive? if not then there's no point for having flame wars on this site, but having flame war in multiplayer of that gears.360 users vs. ps3 users.

[Vip3r]

Great news. Hopefully it will be bigger and better than Gears. Not that I have anything against it just that I'd like to see something new.

[paracardium]

PS3 is doing good for itself and it hasn't even been out a year yet.Imagine the games a year or 2 from now. While the limited xbox is stuck where its at now lack of storage .. even rockstar says 360 is hindering it progress in Grand theft auto.

[Blankman]

if msoft loses relationship with epic thats gonna suck. suck big time

[NextGen24Gamer]

Its just too bad that 80% of Sony's 100 million fanbase from the ps2 can't or won't invest in a Ps3 until its under the 200 dollar price point. If history means anything that is. So while yes its very good news for the few ps3 owners or the few to be ps3 owners.....its not going to convince casual gamers to invest 600 dollars for a ps3. By the time we hear about what game Epic is making for the ps3...the 500 dollar ps3's will be gone.

But even the 500 dollar ps3's are out of range for casual gamers.

I know this may be selfish....but I'm not missing out on anything. I still believe that the 360 offers the best gaming experience thus far. And knowing Epic and MS's relationship.....Epic is focusing on making their first appearence on the ps3 a success and worth their financial investment.....but I guarentee the 360 version will get extra love and be something for 360 gamers to get excited about. Fanboys don't understand that the gaming industry s a business. If Epic released Unreal for the 360 and ps3 at the same time....THe 360 sales would crush the ps3 sales. And the 360 sales might be hurt by Halo 3's release in the same breath. So by releasing it on the ps3 first....It maximizes its sales for ps3...it builds up excitement for the 360 version and it gives Gamers a chance to get into Halo 3.....Then when they drop Unreal in early 2008....the sales have a good chance of surpassing Gears of War's 4 to 5 million copies sold.

Its all business folks. And Fanboys are clueless pawns.

[Maddens Raiders]

on N4G, Mr. Ninty employee, with your, "I guess It was smart for me to invest in both consoles......" liar, liar pants on fire!

-- "Its all business folks. And Fanboys are clueless pawns." --

No we're not clueless TopGamer, just not listening to your rhetorical horse$hit, that's all. =]

Good Day

[rev20]

Thats a real good one that m8

Your not a fanboy at all

It will be the best looking one.

Better then the pc version haha your a joke if you think that

EDIT: what is there to disagree with its fact the pc will be the best its better then any console just check crysis

Pc wil always be ahead graphically then any console this bubble system gets abused left right and centre

[Bathyj]

Did you see that interview with Mark Rein when he announced UT3 for PS3 exclusive. (he didn't say for the year, but he did say it may come out later for 360). Man Mark loves the PS3 and his enthusiasm is infectious.
I really think he wants to break a console selling new IP to PS3 like he did with Gears.

I suspect if they start on it right after UT3 wraps up the Xbox version might become a lower priorety and maybe never happen at all. Its just that Mark doesn't seem to fussed about the Xbox version since he feels UT is all about the user mods Xbox wont do. Plus they will be busy on the new PS3 game and likely Gear 2 for Xbox, so that why I wouldnt be surprised to see XB UT3 slip quietly away.

[Bathyj]

Boy you Xbot really dont like any good Sony news do you? Did I really just lose a bubble for saying you might not get UT3? Geeze, grow would ya.

[Whoooop]

EPIC is showing SONY some love and SONY apparently is showing some to EPIC too.

I don't think we're going to get Gears, because there's a contract between MS and EPIC for Gears..

Now I won't say Gears of War 2 will be exclusive to the 360, because there is no contract for that one..

To tell you the truth as much as I like Gears, if they make a new IP with the same style and gritty gameplay, i'm happy.. oh and with the same shooting view and everything..

Epic and SONY are cooking something together that any of us (even MS) have no idea what it is.. and if their relation keeps getting strong, there's a good chance that GEARS 2 will come to the PS3 and that's going to be a game that I will receive with my arms WIDE OPEN..

By the time they make Gears 2, PS3 install base will be at a healthy amount for EPIC, so I'm pretty sure there's a BIG chance for it to be multiplatform.. THEN AGAIN.... MS and their deep pockets can put an end to that chance :)..

[SRuN4]

I believe MSoft owns the rights to the first two games and then after that it's an open market.

[MarioFromTexas]

I think gears of war is an awsome game, but after i finish the games there were so many things that didn't make sense and I kind got the impression that it was rush and they had to cut alot of the scenes from the game. If they do bring to PS3 I hope they add some length to it and explain the story better. That's my only complaint about the game, everything else rock

[quiddd]

Yeah...........and if you can prevent it from breaking you might see that potential.

33%

[NextGen24Gamer]

There has already been hands on previews of Unreal playing on the 360. The previews have clearly stated that its looking and running better than Gears of war....Thats the preview for the 360 version folks....by several sites.... Epic will make sure their ps3 version is the best looking and playing Ps3 game to date...and when the 360 version releases in early 2008....the version thats already been shown behind closed doors.....It will most definately be the best looking and playing version with added features for sure. But it was a business move to release it only on the ps3 first. Unreals sales would have been hurt by a million or two attempting to go head to head with Halo 3...and it would have hurt ps3 sales....Because gamers on the fence would pick up a 200 dollar 360 to play the best version of Unreal.....It was a double edge sword to Epics attempt to maximize sales. Very smart move in my opinion. Unreal could release a year later and still sell 4 to 5 million copies on the 360 easily. And they know that. Lets all take a guess how many copies will sell on the ps3...lol

[Whoooop]

and how can you be so sure about that???? do you work for MS? or EPIC??

ohh wait you know someone who knows someone that knows a guy that his cousin clean the bathrooms near the office of peter moore..

No wait is just that you are a very intelligent person and you know everything and what you say must the truth.. Right we are the clueless, because you know everything about everything..... silly us.

Well I could say then that the reason that they are making a deal with SONY is because they know that IF/when they release UT3 to the 360, the failure rate will go up another let's say mmmmmm 15%? 20%? and that my friend can be a more real situation that the BS you are writing..

[Bathyj]

I dont know why everyone keeps insisting a FPS wouldnt want to go up against Halo3. Cant Xboxers buy more than one game every 3 months? They're always going on about their attach rates but if I'm to believe this right only Halo is allowed to sell anything for the rest of the year. I can assure you, this wont be the case. There, I'll probably lose another bubble for daring to bring up Halo.

[rev20]

Best looking one

Pc will be definitly if you try to even argue that your stupid as hell

think before you type lol

[MarioFromTexas]

Xbox1 sold 30 million units and halo2 sold 7 millions copies. That means that 70 percent of xbox1 owners bought a different game. Not everybody is hyped by halo2.1. PS3 having UT3 and Haze gives them 2 titles in the FPS genre which PS is not known for. PS3 adds to the variety of their library, which if your a FPS fan PS3 starts to look better. FPS is 360 bread and butter and if PS3 is offering the same amouont of FPS titles why would someone buy the 360. Halo is overhyped and i'm not just saying that I played and finish both 1 and 2. Halo1 was good and Halo2 was only multiplayer and which you can see their is alot of multiplayer now to compete

[Zhoutai]

Gears of wars is one of my favorite games. One of the main reasons I'll probally get a 360. But it would be cool having a game from the creators of GOW for the PS3. They are very good developers and know what the people want.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

btw anyone know what kind of exclusivity this is? Is it also going to be like Gears? Coming the next year or simultaneously on PC

[DJ]

Epic prefers the way Sony handles things, as well as the amount of freedom they're given in terms of game development. While Microsoft dictates Epic on exactly how they need to put out online content, whether or not they should charge for it, what should be included, etc, Sony basically tells them "That's awesome. Go ahead, do it!" Even better is that Sony has been taking initiative and giving one-on-one assistance with developers for PS3 development, regardless of whether or not they are 3rd party.

[gnothe1]

the problem I have have with you is that you post just to bash an prove people WRONG, which you haven't been able to do. but its known that EVERY developer wants to MAXIMIZE its profits. releasing UT3 this year for the 360 wont be a smart move on Epics behalf. theres a TON of new SHOOTERS coming out before then end of this year for the 360, but whats really coming out for the PS3.

PS3
Lair, (COD4), HS, GTA plus a few more!! ()=shooter

360
Gta,(COD4), (Halo3), (SC5),mass effect, (bioshock), plus many more!!
there's just to many games coming out this year for the 360 that could potentially hurt the sales of UT3. if I walked into the game store with 200 bucks this x-mas what would I be buying on the 360!! COD4,halo3, mass effect in that order, so theres no room for the UT3, an thats the order for a lot of other people as well.

same thing, 200 dollars this x-mas for PS3, I would buy COD4,HS an UT3.developers look at whats coming out around the same time an see how good they feel about the competition an decide if they wanna release their game or not!! the same thing happens in Music.I wish you would be a little bit more understanding an little bit less fanboyish an you would really see how things worked!!

Edit
for the guys who keep saying its exclusive to the PS3
http://www.gamespot.com/vid...

another thing to think about. is it not true that the PC an xbox360 are very similar in terms of development. if thats true an the PC version is done an releasing this year, you dont think the 360 version is done also!! they just put that game on the shelf until there ready!!

[Bathyj]

I dont think I was bashing anyone or anything. I was just offering my opinion like everyone else does. Its up to you guys to decide if what I say makes any sense or not.

I know what you're saying about games being released around Halo, I just dont think they should cower and hide from it.

Maybe I'm luckier than most people. I'll be getting Halo, but I'll also be getting, Bioshock. And GTA, Lair, HS, UT3, Haze or anything else thats good this year. I'm a gameslut and I get every game I want. Not everyone is so lucky but surely for most gamers, a game a month leading into Christmas isn't to extravigant. Most could handle that.

Also just for the record, I dont think the Xbox version of UT3 is close to done. I dont know what deal Sony has but I think Mark Rein was only to happy to show PS3 a little loving as he seems to like the hardware. Just cos the PC version will be finished doesn't mean the Xbox version is.

The same with Free Radical. They have a love of PS hardware and aren't shy about saying it. Maybe the Halo effect has something to do with it, it probably does but also maybe both devs decided to lead with their favourites. Each has stated Xbox version will or may appear but neither was to difinate about anything. I dont think they're too concerned at the moment, but that just my opinion. Have a nice day.

[sandip787]

i like the way people (most xboxers anyway) are now disregarding UT3 and haze because they are timed exclusives on the ps3. and there excuse? halo 3? what so you dont want the games any more just because of halo 3? and maybe its a timed exclusive because the developers want to show the ps3 some lovin and not because of the so called 'halo' effect. i still see other blockbusters coming out for all platforms around halo 3 launch, so maybe its not all a 'clever business move'.

[power of Green]

You're twisting what Cliffy said it was a figure of speech when talking about pushing the 360 to the limit stop trying to talk up the PS3 with BULLSHIT. lol

[DADO]

If the current games are not pushing the 360 to the limits, than why do they keep overheating? Just a simple question. I am not saying that the 360 will not have better games that GoW but GoW pushed the 360 really hard.

[the_round_peg]

like the speculation that Sony would get its exclusive IP from Bioware at E3...

... didn't happen.

[Rowe]

where abouts on the podcast is this discussed,
i cba to listen to the whole 2 hours waiting for it to come up

[theaceh]

I think that the more Epic waits to announce Gears 2, the more hype they get to build.

[Mighty Boom]

What are Mods? Thanks.

Oh yea, PS3 getting a Gears like game----- Cool

[the_round_peg]

it shows that PS3 boys really want to have Gears of War or something like it, even though they deny it.

[Tabasco]

I thought it was common knowledge that everybody (ps3 owners,pc owners, and a few wii owners) wants to play Gears. I haven't seen to many people denying they want to play it. Stop trying to put down all ps3 owners, Just rip on the stupid ones.

[vidoardes]

You really are an idiot arn't you?

a) Anyone who is agmaer can see how good of a game Gears is (despite it's many flaws), PS3 owner or not. Fanboys choose to ignore it through ignorance, but it is a great game.

b) This is posted int the PS3 SECTION, as the SECTION FOR PS3 NEWS. Get it yet? Let me try again, repeat after me P. S. 3. Why are there so many XBox fanboys in here trying to convince everyone 'it ain't happening'?

Get a grip you silly little boy

[Geewhizz]

It isnt about wanting gears on ps3. The excitement is:

if epic can create gears on a poorly built, disc scratching, crashing and flawed machine, then what the hell are they gonna be able to do on the ps3? It dont matter if you agree or not, it is the truth. You know it, I know it and epic knows it

[Rowe]

Chances are most ps3 owners know Gears of War is a good game but theyre not going to go around congratulating 360 owners on a great game are they.
However now they may have something like it then they can say what a good game it is.

[predator]

never gona happen, funny reading all this bull

[hotshot1237]

the developer said the've barely worked on the 360 cuz they want 2 focus on pc and ps3. they said eventually they will work on 360 and it "it will look good on 360 too" is what he said. dont mix up words and lie 2 people

(IVE NEVER SEEN SOOOOOOO MANY DUM PEOPLE AT ONCE. THERE NOT MAKING GEARS OF WAR FOR PS3. THERE MAKING A GAME THATS SIMILAR TO IT. THATS WHY THE TITLE SAYS "sony to get its own gears of war LIKE ip from epic" bunch of dummies, please do urselves a favor and LEAVE THE SIGHT

[skynidas]

Mark Rein said that Unreal Tournament is now running better on the ps3 than gears of wars on the 360 one year ago.. he said that and i really think that is true the ps3 have more power than the 360 so that way the game is going to run smoother and with better graphics ;D

[DADO]

Read what Steve Polge said about UT 3 on PS3 360 and PC.
http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

[zonetrooper5]

Well, Sony/PS3 won't be getting anything from Gears of War, MS owns the rights to the damn game, well the first two. After that is it, you guys could get Gears of War 3.

Its like me just trying to use stuff from the Halo universe, firstly its not gonna happen and secondly I would get my ass sued all the way to hell.

As for the PS3 getting a new IP, that will probaly happen. UT3 is also only a timed exclusive for this year and until it comes out on the 360. UT3 is coming out on the PC and PS3 this year.

[hikikimori]

Pure speculation.
When someone OWNS the rights to a game. Then there is no way a competing
company can get at that game in any way.

[Sly]

I would be nice to see a game "like" Gears of war coming to the PS3. Gameplay will be great and visuals will be amazing just like the original Gears right now on the 360.

[AnDy FrOm MiAmi]

Look at all the xbots fighting back it is really funny how all of xbots get all desperate and pissed of, now back on topic this is extremely good news for ps3 owners!

[hazardman]

Gears of War is an Xbox360 exclusive made by Epic and Microsoft. Game.Studios. So PS3 is not gonna get Gears of War..Epic is making original I.P based on the Gears universe...it seems every quote i read talks about Gears running on PS3...you fanboys will never get gears..

[Odion]

Why is everyone getting excited?

A Multi part deal can mean just 2 parts.

That would include the extra worked that went into the engine to make it work on the PS3

Getting UT3 for this holiday season.

The chances that MS agreed to pay for Epic to make them a first party game, and then not known the IP are slim to known.

[Lowtax]

I vote for a Pay-Per-Veiw battle royale between the fanboy's....a war to end all wars......World War 3........One that would shake the very foundations of the Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... (An oldie but a goodie)

[s1lv3rw0lf]

Well, at least this gives the Playstation players a chance to play something like GoW. And I quote, "Something like GoW". It was a fun game - a really fun ass game, and they have a right to play something like it just like the Xbox fans do.

[airforcex]

I own a 360. Right now it has the best looking games, period. But why complain if the PS3 gets their GoW? Aren't we getting MGS4 down the line? Plus, any hardcore gamer wants cool games, no matter the platform. If the PS3 price drops enough, I'll probably get one. Both pieces of hardware are excellent. It would actually disapoint if a PS3 game released way after GoW (2006) doesn't look better. Expect GoW2 to look better as well. Stop this fanboy fights, and embrace the coolness of the 360 (#1 in total sales), best games), the Wii (innovation, momentum), PS3 (awesome poential).

[power of Green]

You're kidding right?. I hope you're trying to a moron to bash no one could really have logic such as the logic in your post.

[bigmack]

why do you xbox people care anyway. chances are you too have the ps3 anyway. epic wants to make a game with sony. whocares. it just sounds like you dont want them to make a gears of war game. i know its not gonna be gears of war, so why are you gys crying over it. you know its gonna be good lookin and chances are your getting. its been done. the deals on. there making a game together and theres nothin you can do about it but buy it. Goodjob Sony and Epic.

[gnothe1]

we know epic an sony is making a game, but..... the game will have NOTHING to do with GEARS or the GEARS universe, no sequel, no prequel. it will be a totally new IP.somebosy said that the 360 will get Gears 2 but the PS3 Might get GEARS 3, NO not gonna happen. like I posted before MS paid for a TRILOGY thats 3 games, an they also have the option if they choose to keep the franchise exclusive after these 3 games are made.

Epic already has a game thats gonna sell 2 million copies easy on each release on the 360 an thats GEARS. now they want one for the PS3, an I'm not talking about UT3, something totally different, something thats exclusive to the PS3. will they create a game that'll blow up like Gears, nobody knows, but there after that Playstation fan base that they never really had. why cant we all be happy for the games we got coming. ok we got GEARS, the playstation fans are gonna get there game so let all be happy about it!!

one last thing, to all the guys that keeps saying that the Ps3 IS MORE POWERFUL, what are you gonna say when UT3 gets released on the 360 next year an it looks better than the PS3 version. you said it couldnt be done with VF5 an why are people saying,THE XBOX 360 VERSION LOOKS BETTER!! until the PS3 shows without a doubt thats it graphically stronger than the 360 would you guys please stop making that outlandish claim. I wish there was more on my PS3 to play that shows me its better, but right now theres nothing an I mean NOTHING that shows me the PS3 is better!!! just look at this week during E3, not 1 game DEMO on the PSN, but we got 6 game demos on the 360, now how did sony let that happen!!

[aiphanes]

Its a fact...if they can program the cell and its spus...then it can do think more than an Xbox 360...The GPUs are about the same...but the cell and the GPU can work together to do graphics...Also you have up to 50 GB of uncompressed space on the bluray disc for game data. Also you can do 7.1 uncompressed sound on the PS3...Why is all this not better?

Gears of War was a short game because they ran out of disc space on the DVD-9 disc. If they had more time even Resistance Fall of Man could have been twice as long and it ended up being around 17 GB of space...and they were compressing too...so the uncompressed code it way more than the 17GB...

[Unknown]

in favor of PS3 owners...for now at least. I remember when the 360 was getting all these exclusives and crap and 360 fans where talking major crap when GEARS release. I can imagine how it felt to be a PS3 owner and all you seen was f#cking GEARS GEARS GEARS!!!! Now all we hear is KZ2 KZ2 KZ2!!! This high level of competiveness between MS and SONY is what keeps this industry so interesting. One think that I noted is how fan boys are so fickle. If a game has a kool game they normal say something negative about the game if its on the opposing system or worship it like its the next messiah if its on there's. Then when the game turns out to be timed exclusive its either the greatest thing ever(if its going to their system) or not all that(if its leaving their system). Why can't we just be happy for other people who can't afford to buy three different systems and get a chance to play the kool game that you have on a different system. And anybody on this thread that really thinks GEARS maxed the 360 out is dumb in the brains. I can assure you that GEARS graphics will get $hited on this year by MASS EFFECT and from here on out on the 360. And the PS3 will have games that $hit on KZ2 eventually. One love.

[Odion]

We have no idea if Epic is going to make a Ps3 game people are just guessing, but Epic has their hands full.

They have 1 small team, their doing UT3 till sometime next year then they've got GOW2 in 2008, then a PC version so the earliest your going to see a game is 2009

[FirstknighT]

Yeah good news for Sony owners. I hope you guys have fun with your "Gears of War" like I.P. around 2009. The ps3 will have something similiar to Gears at 2009 while the 360 side has been playing Gears since 2006. Keep playing catch up Sony!

[fenderputty]

with the negative spin buddy ... but it's just not working at all.

[Mr VideoGames]

NUFF SAID

[fenderputty]

and a black spot on all 360 fans.

[nex]

ahhahahahhahhahah

[Cook1eMan]

I hate the fact that people use the word fanboy against each oter and dont understand the full meaningso here it is.
FANBOY: Someone who stays with a gaming company of choice and talks lots of s*** without real fact about the others.(My definition) So now I pose a question to you, Are you not the fanboy for talking s*** without reason while 360 owners just hope for the best and not bash PS3?

P.S. Sorry you got pulled into such an overated company. Wake up and stop sucking sony's D***.

[Daishi]

About the Unreal timed exclusivity, I think that was genius. Lets get Sony to pay us to only launch the game on thier console this year so we don't launch against Halo 3. Then next year we won't have to launch against Killzone 2 on the PS3. This is not a bash on Sony or Microsoft, but more or less both of them at the same time. Epic knows how to play the game ;)

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

EPIC GAMES LOVES THE PS3 FIRST URT3 AND NOW THIS HA HA! PS3 RULES

[Cook1eMan]

FANBOY: Someone who stays with a gaming company of choice and talks lots of s*** without real fact about the others.(My definition)

Sony gives and you take without question. Get a life!

[SEAN1617]

wait wait wait ahahahahah hahahaha hahahahahah hahahahahaha hahahah haha hahahah hahahahah hahah ha oooohhhhhhhhh damn sorry guys

[The Milkman]

I wouldnt know what you might call me if I say this but, I like what the 360 has to offer more than the PS3 does at the moment. Besides the web browser (which I wouldnt mind having an extra browser to go with my console). But Im not going to pretend I like both console equally and every now and then throw a punch on that console I dont like when no ones looking, just so I look like a super hero othere than a fanboy. Like some of the chosen few. But I just happen to like the 360 over the PS3 right now, so hate me what am I supposed to do?

Thats not saying that I wont come to like the PS3 later. But thats great a PS3 version of Gears Of War or what ever. If it becomes as mouth watering as Halo did on the Xbox and gives me the crave to play the PS3 then Ill do it. But I just dont like people acting neutral so that they dont look like fanboys so that they can get people to think there word means more over a Fan of a console just to bash any console they want in there own water down ways. But I got a feeling its going to most likely be at the least Decent game or better since I liked GoW and that its supposed to be connected to it in some way. Actually makes me want to keep an ear on this one.

[30ROCK]

Can't understand the first posts though, what a clusterf***.

More games for PS3, the news just gets better and better.

Spin all you want about the game coming in 2009 - you don't know that, or that we're playing what you played in 2006 (and we'll be playing very soon with bonus content on our PCs WITHOUT an Xbox 360), but I don't see 360 appealing to all gamers - MS has no exclusives to compete with Uncharted, or R&C (until Banjo 3, which given Rare's pedigree, will suck balls), or Littlebigplanet, or Heavenly Sword, or MGS4 etc etc etc.

[tomfoolery]

multiple accounts!! Sonytards mostly.Yes....that has to be it!
And that's plain not playing fair.So to you people pulling
that sh!t(Sonypeople in the majority),you've screwed this site and
need to die an early death.....so I say to you,DIE!!!!!peace
P.S.
I don't really want anybody to die,just sarcasm.

[tomfoolery]

this site can lick my nuts too,for approving tabloid quality B.S.!!
This place is a fanboy jerk-off center,not a serious news site.
If you feel differently,refer to my first sentence and have a ball!

[The_Firestarter]

Seriously, you should calm down.

What proof do you have? *rhetorical question* Since you don't have any proof, then don't flame for no real reason.

Keep the comments on topic please.

[The_Firestarter]

Sounds interesting to me. So, they're making this new I.P., release UT3 on PS3/360/PC, and finally release GeOW 2? Wow, they're good.

After all of that, without a doubt, they've proven themselves to be excellent developers (I'm referring to developing on PS3 & 360).

[The Milkman]

I can care less about what console has the most exclusives. As long as I have the good games that I'm realy looking forward to I dont care. And your comment with MS not having enough exclusives got me mind bottled lol.. uh huh? You must not bother looking at the the games for the 360 exclusive or not we still got it thats all that matters to me. I could care less if GoW was on the 360 and the PS3 as long as we got it, then its fine with me.

Fire starter look at his bubble limit... Thats why he probably just dont give a hell anymore. If he even gave a hell in the first place... Pats Tom on the back*.

[Cook1eMan]

I'm not going to beat around the bush on this. This is how it's going to go down:
1) Epic threats at ps3 game
2) Microsoft opens it's wallet
3) Epic trashes the ps3 game
4) Keeps GoW Exclusive

Sorry ps3 is never going to get their hands on it. You fanboys are just gelous that all your games look like s***. I dont care that you have killzone, 1 game doesnt turn heads on a system. If they were to make a GoW like game for ps3 are they going to put Marcus's brother or friend as the main hero? Cant use marcus microsoft owns that. I'm not a fanboy either it's hard to talk s*** when almost everyone has played a game on a PC or owns a computer.

[Corrupt]

Judging from your comment(s) you come across as a complete fanboy. Most of your comments in this story are also offensive. I'm not sure which term suits you better: fanboy or troll.

"1) Epic threats at ps3 game
2) Microsoft opens it's wallet
3) Epic trashes the ps3 game
4) Keeps GoW Exclusive"

Microsoft owns the rights to it, it will not be going anywhere without Microsoft's say-so.

"You fanboys are just gelous that all your games look like s***. I dont care that you have killzone"

This is where you display your fanboyness. I respect alot of Xbox360 owners on here because they acknowledge that games on other platforms look good (gameplay-wise or graphically), but you are giving 360 fans a bad name. Stop being bull-headed and just be honest. Everyone knows that the visuals on alot of the PS3 exclusives are great looking, as are the 360's.

"1 game doesnt turn heads on a system."
You'll find there was a great looking game that turned alot of heads at a system. That game was Gears of War. Please refrain from making mindless comments unless you're going to be civil.

[Cook1eMan]

Im trying to explain how sony will never get hands on it and you wanna attack me for being a fanboy. News for you buddy fanboys can only be within the gaming "consoles) cause they have competition. While I play PC and there is no competition unless you count apple as a competitor in gaming. All consoles have there ups and downs and I like them all. Am I siding with any console hell no. I'm just giving my imput on this topic.
P.S. I used to own all three of this generations consoles until I sold them for a $2500 computer. So I can really be a fanboy and basht the other companies when I owned all their consoles.

[Why o why]

be a total fanboy and own every console under the sun like a few people on this site who believe owning everything gives them heightened objectivity and impartiality. Thats BS. Everybody has a preference and pc gamers dont really feel console gamers sometimes. No mac competition means diddly squat. Its like saying car drivers dont tend to hate cyclists and vice versa because there different modes of transport.

On the topic as a ps3 owner i dont expect this to be anything to do with gears full stop but i am happy that sony and epic will be working together. If i wanna play gears i will get an xbox or play my mates.

[rowdy 1]

I'm hearing that there might be a total recall on a worldwide scale on all 360's. MS salesmen told me that. I think they are about to bite the bullet. Wooo.

[btkadams]

i dont know why theres fighting about gears of war pushing the limits of the 360 in the comments for this article. the news post doesnt mention it at all ACTUALLY.

ps the title says "Gear of War - like" original IP. Epic can make another series too u know. sony isnt stealing gears of war. plus that would be lame for both sides, ps3 wouldn't get the original and 360 wouldnt get the sequel.

anyways, i think its great news, epic needs to make more games.

[INehalemEXI]

I wants UT3 maybe 2 copys 1 for pc and 1 for ps3. My 360s due for another repair next week cause it scratches discs 8(. Spent 100 for repair cause the 3 year extended waranty for red ring doesnt cover this problem ....That is some lame a*s Bs. scuse me.

[vitaminjayz]

im not a fan of 360 any more after having 4 die on me ,however i thought the new warranty coverd the 3 ring of light .

all i can say if this is the case microsoft are doomed cos thats the main fault with there crappy console.

[hazardman]

The rights to GoW is owned by MS. know your facts before you post.

[btkadams]

know YOUR facts before you post.

the title says "Gears of War like IP".
its not a gears of war game, its a different IP thats somewhat similar. but wat epic game isnt similar to other epic games

[_insane_cobra]

It's not a multi-part deal, it's a two-part deal. In the words of Jack Tretton (source: GI.biz):

"I think the way we characterised it was a TWO-PRONGED benefit. One was to help the hundred-plus games that were in development and optimise the Unreal Engine, and the second one was to have Unreal Tournament 3 exclusively on our platform."

That's all there is to it. The rest is just unsubstantiated speculation spurred by the 1UP Yours podcast before E3 even started (i.e. before the nature of partnership between Sony and Epic became apparent). The rumor was started by Shane Bettenhausen who also used to claim Devil May Cry 4 would never, under any circumstances appear on the Xbox 360; he also used to claim that the PS3 version of Lost Planet would be released by the end of this past spring and so on.

[leon76]

one of the best news of all time...

[SDS Overfiend]

At First you fanboys Dissed Epic and Gears now you want Epic to release Gears on PS3? LOL @ U Lamers!

Whatever happen to Resistance? Ya'll don't have much to say about that trash now do you. Almost a year later and gears is still going strong. Thanks to Online Modes in our games you get what you paid for and frankly i got my money's worth.

[felidae]

if you don't know it ... shut up.

Resistance is much more fun to play than Gears - you know nothing.

i've played them both and Gears is only run,duck,cover,shoot,run,duck, cover,shot...... graphics are nice but not smooth around the edges.

even resistance's multiplayer kicks gears A$$

[felidae]

all the good games are coming to the ps3 ... there's no reason to deny that.

gears of war was way too short. it felt like they rushed it to the market. multiplayer is nice - but personally, i'm more of a single player guy.

i'm really looking forward to see what Epic brings to the ps3. nice nice !!!!

[truebego]

nice move !!!!!
sony love me
yeah

[vitaminjayz]

this is best news ive heard ive had 4 360,s die on me and i loved gears so if a simlar game comes out then that ace .

i think m$ owns the name and the names like dom ect .

so sony and epic could bring out a game that is simlar but call it maybe gears of battle or locust vs cogs who knows they could even have the other side of the story in gears of war u was the cogs in the new ps3 game u could be the baddies the locust that be ace .

ok thats my view dont flame me or have ago cos u only love one console we should work together to get the best out of the game developers on all systems .

the way i see it if there wasnt more than one console the consoles and games would be as good as they are now , competition can be healthy thing.

[teh_tourist]

hopefully it's more fun this time. i played it on 360 and it was kinda boring, but at any rate i get to rub it in my friends faces that bought 360 for GoW exclusivity

[abg428]

Whats with people syaing the the 360 is a moe powerful machine?????

CLEARLY we've been shown just how inferior the 360 is.

I'm serious guys, justcut the sh** and be real about it, the PS3 has shown how much more powerful it is than the 360 so grow some ba*** and get over it it please!!

[joevfx]

liek what game looks better on what system. the bottom line is the 360 has been out for longer the evs have had more tiem with it and its close to what epic is used to codign for , PC!!! with that said, about this new deal with sony and epic, Epic will now learn more form the Sony engineers on how to get the graphics and performance they want out of the machine. it mayeb be alittel to late for unreal 3, hence the reason it might look slightly better on 360, but futre Epic games will definitly look as good if not better on the PS3.

Also you have to take into account that (Developers), after all the techy stuff is said, they are Artists. Soem artists are better then other. so soem game might look better on different systems cause soem devs are better then others. it has nothign to do with the systems hardware. especially when it comes to the 360 and PS3

[TOO PAWNED]

Lol looking back at this, what a joke