Only 6% of PS3 Owners Have Purchased Killzone 2

With all the anticipation, you have to wonder how much of the PS3 install base actually went out and purchased the game. Don't worry, just sit back and relax since all the calculations have been done for you.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

We don't even have a full month of solid NPD data so how can you come to this number already? Maybe in the other regions that have spotty sales reporting might be showing that but the US had good numbers for KZ2 for the 2 days in Feb and I expect it to do well in March and have long legs(watch this title pick up in sales twords the Christmas holiday).

[BananaSlug]

killzone leaderboards only show a little more than 820k players

[arika]

yup! march will be a different scenario for killzone 2. i know that a lot of people are trying to downplay its greatness because they are too scared for this game to be seen and played by a lot of people. once they do they will be amazed and word of mouth will be spread all over the gaming world.
even in the remote chance that the sales are slow it will still sell gazilions, slowly but surely.
i'm sure that once the npd results for march is up its going to be around 2 to 4 million globally. :-)

[SRU9600]

"watch this title pick up in sales twords the Christmas holiday"

Killzone 2 will be a distant memory come Christmas time, my friend.

Modern Warfare 2 is going to be the game that everyone will be buying.

[squidyj]

Yknow, unless Infinity Ward screws the pooch.

[Ju]

"only show a little more than 820k players" Oh man, how spoiled are we. How is 800k players in the first month a bad thing ? I just don't get it any more.

[BananaSlug]

it's not a bad number for any game. it is just currently not as high as fanboys think it is.

[Ju]

Oh, I am just fed up with the people tossing numbers around. They don't mean anything. You can't really quantify them. Does it change the game experience ? I don't think so. But, there were days, when a company was proud to sell 100K of its products on a global scale. And they made big money doing so. Now, if you don't sell 4M, then its not worth talking any more. Well, even 1M is NOTHING, right ? "Million", 10e6, does this tell you anything ? (I mean, not you personally, you who argues about numbers). w/e, I think I go play some game now. Is late.

[SRU9600]

Numbers mean a lot when "the best FPS ever made" sells like crap.

Seriously, this game was supposed to sell uber-millions and instead it can't even get 1 out of every 10 PS3 owners to buy it. lol

[Unicron]

"Seriously, this game was supposed to sell uber-millions and instead it can't even get 1 out of every 10 PS3 owners to buy it. lol"

Generalizations FTW. I love it when people take excited (and stupid) fanboy utterances and apply them to an entire community as if they were law or fact.

I also love the idiots who think sales somehow make a game more fun. Sorry, I don't care what Halo 3 sold, it's crap compared to CoD4.

I'll put it in fanboy terms you can understand SRU. Gasp! I thought Halo was the messiah of the console FPS?! The epitome! It can't even sell as much as Wii Fit or Gran Turismo. Hah. Pathetic.

But I should thank YOU for epitomizing everything wrong with "gamers" today. Kudos champ.

[SRU9600]

Oh please, get over yourself, "Unicron". lol

You and I both know that this game was expected to sell like crazy, and now that it hasn't, people like yourself are acting like you are so above it all.

Killzone 2 = fail.

Deal with it.

[Unicron]

OH NO! A GAME I enjoy didn't sell a crapload over night judging from the total LACK OF DATA WE HAZ! OH NOES! I guess that means its less fun now! Whatever will I do?!

I love idiots who play sales numbers on their 360s and PS3s, it must be so fun looking at spreadsheets all day for the companies you DON'T work for. Bwahaha. Sad.

Once again, thank you for proving to be the epitome of everything wrong with gamers today. Continue to spew your vitriol and vapid responses, it really is rather funny in a pathetic way.

[raztad]

@UN happy

How do you know a game is selling consoles? does KZ2 needs to sell 23 million of copies so you can say, yeah KZ2 sold 1 million of consoles?

I bought a ps3 cause I wanted to play KZ2. Like me many others, but it's a known fact that ps3 userbase is much more into Jrpgs, action-adventure games than FPSs.

Well I need to get some sleep, I am a bit tired after playing Folklore, awesome action-rpg.

[SRU9600]

"OH NO! A GAME I enjoy didn't sell a crapload over night judging from the total LACK OF DATA WE HAZ! OH NOES! I guess that means its less fun now! Whatever will I do?!"

"Once again, thank you for proving to be the epitome of everything wrong with gamers today. Continue to spew your vitriol and vapid responses, it really is rather funny in a pathetic way."

Oh my, someone is quite the drama queen! lol

[Calvin_ISA]

RIDICULOUS. YOUR tattoo says dude, and YOUR tattoo says sweet!

Hate to break this to the KZ2-was-destined-to-fail-and-b ecause-it-kicks-ass-lets-say-it -doesn't-because-it-isn't-picki ng-up-on-sales-yet people, but a game doesn't "fail" from inaccurate sales figures...

[Narutone66]

I bought a copy of KZ2, but so far haven't played online. I'm more of a GT fans than a shooter, but KZ2 is just too good to pass up. I suck at shooter game to tell you that truth. That's why I don't play online, might end up getting my a$$ whipped by more seasoned player.

[Omegasyde]

SRU how did killzone fail?

It already made its return on investment with over 1 million copies sold worldwide.

The development for just making the game was 22 million (USD). Wait, they also made a engine which SCE plans on licensing to other developers so there will be further profit in the future.

The only thing the game failed on, was reaching Halo 3 sales numbers. No one expected it too because A) the first game sucked and B) little advertising.

To gamers, the game certainly didn't fail. Fun online, great single player expirience, greatest graphics to date for a console title.

[SRU9600]

It failed because this was supposed to be that "must have" game (a Halo 3, if you will) that would make people actually go out and purchase a PS3.
A console seller like no other (even though every PS3 exclusive that came before it was also supposed to be "The One", but we all know how that worked out...)

All fanboyism/kidding around aside, Killzone 2 did not do anywhere near the numbers that Sony had hoped it would, and that, along with the other poorly selling PS3 exclusives, must be making Sony very nervous.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

@2.1: Not everyone is connected to the internet but yeah that is a decent indicator.

Ju speaks wisely as always.. time to go enjoy some games.

[BananaSlug]

"Not everyone is connected to the internet [...]"

o definitely.... and unfortunately...

[poet215]

I'm an owner of a lauch day 60gb PS3 & I don't have KZ2. I believe it's a great game, but I've never enjoyed playing FPS's. I'd much rather have a good RPG or Adventure game. I also think, that Sony has spent the 1st couple years of PS3 trying to replicate the 360 & PC with the overload of shooters. Perhaps, Sony is a few years to late with this game as well. Sometimes, you can have the best product, but if you're too late to join the party............well, you know.

[redsquad]

Both I and my sister bought KZ2. I play online yet she doesn't. So that's 50% of my household who don't go on the internet with the game.

Percentages are great aren't they?

[Tarasque]

Well obviously you are just focused on the small number it has sold. Instead look at how much money was spent on making the game and engine and compare that to the game sales. Take a look at Halo3 and Gears 1&2 sales and Fable 2 sold 350,000 first day just in NA. That just points to either PS3 owners are just watching movies or they are not buying game's, i mean seriously you have a install base that big and only 6% of PS3 owners buy the game which supposed to be the best game on the console. No 2 ways about that some serious issue's.

/\/\/\/\/\ guy above.....yeah that means 1 person and your point.

[s8anicslayer]

Thats an amazing number if it were true, makes you wonder how many people have a ps3 just for blueray?

[FlameBaitGod]

Its really funny and really sad to how 360 fanboys have to result to sales. Lets start, killzone to came out for the PS2 and it wasnt a great game it was an ok game, prob with frames, using the sniper was hell in that game and many other annoying stuff was happening in that game. SO a lot of people who played the first one and hated it wont get it becuase they think those things havent changed(which they did). Second, Gears didn't do anything wrong in its release, it was a pro game from the start. So its obvious people are going to get the sequel. PS3 has been getting fresh IP's plus great multiplats, so who u think its spending more money on games ? Has every 360 exclusive reached 1mill in sales like the PS3 has ? No. What console has more games to play other than 3(Halo 3, gears, COD) this year? If you have many others that u play care 2 say. You people can keep telling you self that sales = quality of the game, that just makes you u look even sadder and really not mentally healthy. Oh guys and keep making multiple accounts and agreeing with your self's more ROFL!

[Anon1974]

Fable 2 moved about 1.7 million units in it's first 5 weeks worldwide, so given an install base at the time of about 27 million 360 owners, that's about 6% as well.

MGS4 moved units like Gears 2 did. It sold close to 3 million in it's first 5 weeks on sale so out of 15 million PS3 owners at the time that means about 20% of PS3 owners picked it up at that time.

Wait a minute...what's the point of all this? So 20% of players picked up Gears 2 and MGS4 on their respective consoles and Fable 2 and Killzone 2 did about 6%. What does that matter? They're all fantastic games and are doing well. I don't understand the point of even comparing these. What is he trying to say? Killzone isn't Gears of War? We all know that. And LBP isn't Banjo Nuts and Bolts.

Anything else Captain Obvious can point out for us?

[The Lazy One]

WAT?! you can't quantify numbers? Please tell me you thought about that after you said it.

@the rest: KZ2 probably won't pick up at Xmas. very very few games released more than half a year earlier do.

I think the most important thing to note about KZ2 is that it has to sell a lot just to make back it's budget (which is estimated at around $60 million just for development, not advertising, manufacturing, or publishing). It's going to take almost 2 million sales just for them to make a profit off it, which doesn't really bode well for the best game released for the console.

Compared with halo 3, which had a $60 million budget for development, advertising, manufacturing, and publishing, it's being outsold almost 5:1 in the same time period. MGS4 (an established series) was outsold around 2:1 in the same period. Don't think developers and publishers won't take note of the way games sell on each system. They're still a business, and they have to make money.

[xTruthx]

Lazy one I'm pretty sure Sony said kz2 took 50 mill to make, and if what u say about halo 3 is right about only 60 mil on ads and the game then I get y they couldn't do Halo 3 run at 720p. Because Halo 3 had a 30 mil on ads only, Thats not counting the manufacturing, and publishing, so from what ur saying Halo 3 only took around 22 mill to make?. I guess this happens with every 360 exclusive, thats y we keep getting freaking laggy & glitchy games.

[The Lazy One]

GTAIV had a 100 million budget, so it's a better game than killzone 2 right?

[DailyAddict]

Why are you guys even reading this garbage? He's comparing a game that's been out for a few months to a game that's been out for a few years? Yea, THAT makes a lot of sense.

Nothing to see hear except a horrible site baiting all of you into reading nonsense.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

SAo basically not exactly the Halo killer... Heck there are probably more people playing Halo 3 right now than KZ2.

So much for the Halo killer. This supports my theory that a large portion of the initial PS3 user base bought it as the cheapest blu-ray (and arguably the best quality for the cost) available at the time.

Sales in some sense matters because when publishers see poor number on a killer game that is on par with CoD4 sells only barely above a million, one would question the investment. For comparison how are the sales numbers for CoD 4 for PS3?

Other than MGS4, has there been any game on the PS3 that sold more than 3 million? Just curious.

[Ju]

"quantifying a number". Well, you can't without a context. 5. A Number. Is it a lot or is it less ? Don't know unless you put it into context. 5g dope is possible a lot (I wouldn't know?), 5cents possibly not.

Well, 4M is a lot. But so is 1M. 100K is less. I usually play with 16 vs 16 on a team. Don't know what the other 1M do, not sure if my game would change drastically if I'd know there are 800K in the waiting list or 4M. I'm still playing vs16.

Bigger is better, hah. Except if you think about your weight. Then maybe not.

[Raz]

"one could argue that the game has just come out a month ago, therefore it takes time for the amount of owners to grow. This argument fails being that as the amount of KZ2 owners grow, the amount of the install base also grows, therefore the percentage stays the same."

How does he figure? Everyone who buys KZ2 is also buying a new PS3?

The more important question is how HHG continues to get away with posting these excuses for articles.

[thats_just_prime]

Funny how a game that was suppose to be the 2nd coming (how many 2nd coming has the ps3 had btw) sells so lil. MS hypes exclusive and the sells are off the charts. Halo 3 sold to 50% of all 360 owners. GoW1 sold 33% to all 360 owners and GoW2 is already at 25%. I guess even ps3 fanboys dont want to buy the shovelware that sony keeps putting out for the ps3

[Saigon]

vgchartz.com was a creditable source...we barely know what this game did...and remember sony does not release what it sold to retail...all we know the game might have sold 4-5 million for sony...

[Sonyslave3]

lol hiphopgamer April fool was yesterday.

[jvillan]

Don't think this is a joke.

[DNAgent]

hiphopgamershow is a joke regardless of the month. It's nothing but blogs that get approved as news by a bunch of n00bs and people on that site.

[bujasem_89]

yea and my ass can grow money and cupcakes

[jammy_70]

also while 360 has only 2 BIG franchises (halo gears) ps3 has loadz, resistance, metal gear, gran trismo, uncharted + thats why games sell less on ps3, cuz theres more games :)

[earwax]

I play more PS2 games on my 60gb ps3 then I do PS3 games. This system is in HUGE trouble! if not for Blu ray it would be dead by now.

[talltony]

Sales dnt make the game better or worse. People buy shovelware for the wii all the time and people dnt buy excellent games all the time. In the end sales dnt effect me either way when i am playing killzone 2. Their is plenty of people online to kill so its all good.

And @ EARWAX above me. Its not my problem that ur stupid enough not to want to play killzone 2, uncharted, ratchet and clank future, MGS4, resistance 1 and 2, and heavenly sword just to name a few. Its your loss that ur not playing the best games not mine.

[Capt CHAOS]

It determines how much is available to fund the sequel or another game...

[talltony]

No they dnt, not really. I mean Gears 2 looks exactly like Gears 1. Same engine and not many new things.

[II-Reaper-II]

Source=Vg chartz lol
You guys keep fallin for the same bait that HipHopLamer keeps throwing at u.Hes got no life.Just ignore these articles and he will slowly disappear.For god sake he used vgchartz as his source.He said 21million Ps3 consoles.Ps3 is at 23million at least right now.Dont believe me?check wiki!! yo hiphop get a life dude or at least an education u dum f@k!

[jams_shop]

I guess Gears of War 2 sold 6,950,000 copies on day one.

Edit:
Yeah! Go-ahead and disagree, but don't you guys think that, it would be more reasonable if whoever came up with this %, uses the units sold in the first month instead of using the life-time sells of a games that soon is going to have a year in the market.

BTW why don't HHG post the % of the 360 owners who bought Halo Wars?? Remember Halo Wars?? Yeah... it was released around the time Killzone 2 was released.

[jack who]

WILL HALF OF THAT DO?

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

gears 2 did not even reach 5 million... this article is just bullcrap, just like other HHG articles

[Johnny Rotten]

So is this negative news or positive because I can't really figure it out? if it's negative, I feel really bad for the other 97% of games that were ever created.

[Shadow Man]

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[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

!!!!!

[UnSelf]

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[STONEY4]

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[Calvin_ISA]

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*cough* ...94... *cough*

-edit in a lesson-

-LESSON 1: MATH-
You start at 100 bottles of beer on the wall, and when you take down 6 bottles, you're left with 94. (:

-LESSON 2: COMMON SENSE-
...but that statement makes absolutely zero percent sense. You see, Johnny, the 6% is only a percentage of people who bought Killzone 2. Not counting every game ever created. It should also be "I feel bad for the other 94% of PS3 gamers that haven't bought this".

There's your lessons for the day. Brought to you free by me.

What? Somebody had to..

[Johnny Rotten]

LESSON 3: READ THE ARTICLE THEN COMMENT-

"So is this negative news or positive because I can't really figure it out? if it's negative, I feel really bad for the OTHER 97% of GAMES that were ever created".

let me reword this for you so you can understand....

If this is supposed to be negative news I feel really bad for all the other games in the world that haven't sold nearly as much as the ones mentioned in the article.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

.....THIS is y HHG needs banning ^^. He must live in Spin City.

[Omegasyde]

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[MysticStrummer]

I guess with so many people being jobless these days it's no surprise that some of that free time is being used to create worthless "articles" on the internet.

[happyface]

wasn't this supposed to be a system seller?

its not even selling to the people that HAVE the system

[-GoD_-oF-_WaR-]

Thats because there are more than 2 games to wait for like the xbox.
Thats why i only have gears and forza for my 360 :/

[WIIIS1]

Really? Like what might a PS3 owner be waiting for in the next 2 months that's making her hold back from buying KZ2? This year, I've already gotten Star Ocean 4, RE5, Halo wars, Race Pro, Lost & Damned on 360 (getting Fallout 3 DLC soon). I've not gotten anything for my PS3 yet because KZ2 demo didn't do anything for me. Waiting for Uncharted 2, which is coming out when?

[Unicron]

I love statistics.

100% of HHG "stories" are flame bait horsesh1t.

[crck]

I think no co-op really hurt this game just like it hurt Resistance 2. I know that's why I didn't buy either of them. I just rented both.

[Dark General]

Resistance 2 had Co Op though. Not sure if it had offline/splitscreen Co Op though.

As for this article there's still a few variables missing. Like comparing timeframes as well as comparing install bases at that current time as well. If you want to get a more accurate tie ratio. While KZ2 has been hyped on the 'net by hardcore gamers it didn't really get that sort of mainstream push. Specially since it's Ps3 iteration is more akin to a new IP or rebooting of a series (ala Warhawk) than it is a blockbuster sequel to a crowd favorite title.

[Unicron]

Careful there General, using that logic might make HHG look more a fool than he already is.

[Dark General]

Hahahaha I actually don't mind HHG (himself) he tries to at least talk about some interesting things and does pretty good interviews with industry people. I give him alot of respect for that since he's kind of just a common gamer like us trying to slide his foot in the door. I don't however agree with his choices for writers though and what he allows them to publish. He could definitely try to be more professional and present some of his idea's, articles and whatnot in a different manor. I do see some potential in his work.

[MrPink93485]

Wow, his Gears of War number is way off. About a good 2.5 million off.

Not to mention, Killzone 2 has only been out for such a short amount of time.

[onijutsu]

well i got a ps3 to play games that aren't shooters, as i got tired of being a pc gamer and playing endlessly with shooters.

[Supernatural24]

I was probably going to buy it but because it doesn't offer offline multiplayer like in the classic N64 games in which you were able to play with/against brothers and bots (spent most of my time in Battlefield 2 against these because the servers lagged)...well I'm not going to, changing my sight towards Virtua Tennis 2009 later this spring. They badly need to make another Perfect Dark. Multiplayer is boring in Call of Duty games for offline.. it also needs bots.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

you have no idea what you're missing... oh well, as long i get to play it, then im fine

[STONEY4]

Killzone 2 has offline bots.

[MrPink93485]

Also, his time argument is off, because next month, Killzone 2 will probably sell as many copies as PS3's are sold in the US........therefore the percentage number will be constantly increasing for a good amount of time.

[Sonyslave3]

damn if this is true wtf wrong with ps3fanboys this was the game they hype as the halo killer/ second coming of chirst and only 6% brought the game.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

I bought it, ranked up to General and then went straight back to COD4

[silverchode]

i went back to css. kz2 is a good game but my interest for it has diminished.

[STONEY4]

I have 3 games I need to finish, I don't really have time for Killzone 2's multiplayer right now.

[Shane Kim]

I ranked up to general and I'm still playing it. Trying to unlock all of the medals.

[Deadman64]

That easy to rank to General?

[7thNightvolley]

well..one things i would say is marketing of kz2 by sony was abit shabby if u ask me.
I wouldnt like i expected more sales thou from kz2 seeing it is a technical marvel on a console i for one was a pure 360 gamer and added the ps3 on the 27th of feb coz of kz2 (i was drunk then but i am glad i was) and its been a blast or maybe ps3 gamers dont play games as hard i dunno but if in a month kz2 does not reach 1.5mil sales i dont tihnk it will do 3 mill in a life time. just an opinion. since sales generally go down with time.

[7thNightvolley]

please would u please state ur reasons.. and stop hiding i dont bite.

[Acquiesc3]

Yeah, some random fanboy is just looking over the comments and hitting disagrees. Whoever that is, get a life man.

[7thNightvolley]

sad and pathetic

[Anon1974]

You have to anticipate that in PS3 news you're going to have a lot of PS3 fans. The exact same thing happens in the 360 news, where if you aren't 100% positive towards the 360 people will automatically jab the disagree button and few ever comment on the actual content of the post. It's maddening when you just want to talk about gamer issues, I know. You'd think if someone disagreed they'd at least give you a reason. Not the case on net forums in general.

As for your point, from my observation of PS3 sales data, PS3 games tend to have long legs. Look at Motorstorm - barely sold 500,000 in it's first month and sales dropped down to 20,000 a week and now it's well over 3.5 million. The first Resistance and even Resistance 2 seem the same way. Ok sales out of the gate but then settling into a long term 20,000-30,000 a week pattern until the next thing you know they're over 3 million. LittleBigPlanet is another example of a game with steady longer term sales.

I've heard it mentioned in reports before that the 360 caters to the hardcore crowd, and as the hardcore crowd tends to buy the hot, new thing day one we see attach rates on the 360 spike whenever a new, anticipated title is released. It's been argued that this is a symptom of a larger problem that the 360 seems unable to break out and appeal to the more casual gamers, and recent sales of Banjo Nuts and Bolts lend credit to that concern. Catering only to the hardcore is not a recipe for long term viability in the gaming market. My guess is that that's what's behind the 360's price drop, an attempt to get more casuals onboard although based on MS's last sales quarter it looks like they may have priced the 360 at a loss again as profit was down 60% on increased sales and increased revenue. It's also been pointed out that PS3 seems to be able to sell a wider variety of software titles.
Think about it. If you're a developer and you have a new shooter, or military themed game - you probably look to the 360 first as even mediocre titles like Mercenaries 2 seem to be able to move units while being largely ignored on the PS3. If you're making a game that's anything other than a shooter or military themed game - you'd most likely look at Blue Dragon/Banjo/Too Human and then LBP/Uncharted/Ratchet and Clank, or even consider multiconsole sales. Shooters tend to do best on the 360 while the PS3 holds it's own, everything else now seems to move better on the PS3 (DMC4, TombRaider, Burnout, RE:5, SteetFighter 4, and on and on it goes)
You'd probably come to the same conclusion that many developers have - the size of the install base doesn't really matter as much as what that install base is buying. Otherwise everyone would be making games for the Wii.

I think give Killzone 2 time and it'll break that 3 million mark - a truly rare feat for any videogame.

[Mr Tretton]

Just say No to HHG

[smokeymicpot]

I didn't buy this game but rented it day one. Probably won't even buy for a long time if not ever. No more shooters. There is really to many.

[Acquiesc3]

The guy should go back to grade school. His "little mathematical research" isn't even close to being accurate at all. KZ2 had atleast 1.2 million pre-orders in Europe and the full month of NPD data isn't even released yet.

I also love how he just magically spawns those numbers (probably just from a week's worth of data) without even providing any sources.

Coming from HHG, it's not very surprising though. They seem to have a knack for posting atleast one garbage article here everyday.

[Pootie Tang]

Goto KZ's own leaderboards if u wanna c some numbers, just over 800,000 played online- so 1.2 to 1.3 is prob pretty damn close if that

[Acquiesc3]

I know that. But keep in mind that a lot of people still don't have internet connection or don't even care about the multiplayer component. Even if it's as much as 60% of the people who bought it went online, it would still be higher than said number in the article.

[lomion5]

Well yeah, we all got our PS3's for rpgs. There are already so many shooters. That having been said, I did break down and get Killzone and it's pretty much awesome.

[xplosneer]

I would, but I can't, so I'll wait till I can.

[Bladestar]

94% of all PS3 are linux servers or used to watch movies only.

So, this sounds about right.

[silverchode]

see i can make up numbers too.

[Bathyj]

100% of all Bladestars I know are dikheads.

[Obama]

"68% of all 360's will suffer the rrod"

Actually this "was" a fact.

[TrevorPhillips]

I bought my copy and im loving the game :)

[myothercar]

No! The only way you can love something is if it sells 8 million copies in the first month.

[Shadow Man]

Yeah I'm so happy!!! :D :D bu bu but the cell? ahaahahhaa

PS:X-Men Origins Wolverine 2009 available for download DVD quality :D

[silverchode]

i watched it already.

[sak500]

@shadow

Thats workprint.. incomplete movie. Will wait for R5.

[Shadow Man]

$50 million down the sh!ter.

[poopsack]

man your really funny.

[DARK WITNESS]

lolololol... i don't know if i agree, but it did make me laugh. bubble to you good sir. lol

[GamerPS360]

lol another sales play. Getting tired of this thing

[OneShotThrill]

Whats the point of this article? it has no meaning... it has no purpose...why does it exist? It must be horrible when devs dont sell 1 million copies of their game in less than a week. why is every games worth measured in sales these days. If were gonna apply that logic to everything then our standards for gaming is just going down the toilet.Hell even William Hung's (That horrible little asian guy that got rejected from american idol) album went platinum...Im pretty sure many of us dont view him as a great singer

[myothercar]

The HHG site is run by people who don't know anything about games. They just know that most N4G readers lap this pissing contest garbage up like dogs.

[Ariellog]

Funny how every one beliefs any fool that post any Garbage on the net. I mostly play on 360 but i lately started playing my ps3 thx to Killzone 2 and i say it probably the best Multiplayer experience i played on a console.

I don't know why people keep bringing up CoD4, i would not even put it on the top 3 best shooters of all time. (Counter-Strike, Battlefield 2, and the first Team Fortress).

In all unless the guy start putting some actual stats from people i can believe (NPD) i don't see why people should even pay attention to this crap.

[Nihilism]

"sex panther, sixty percent of the time it works, everytime!"

[Ariellog]

"it smells like Bigfoot ...."

[Lavagasm]

And they thought a sequel to a sh*tty game was a GOOD idea. LMAO!

[cyclindk]

One error in his logic is that he stated the PS3 install base is increasing along side the continued purchases of the game and therefore the percentage would remain the same; this would be true if the PS3 adoption rate and Killzone 2 rate of sale were equal and as it stands there is no evidence to suggest they are.

Altogether, I I don't think any game would sell 30 or so percent on a Sony console, Sony's consoles don't "need" those kinds of games to survive, they have variety and quality and that's what Sony gamers like.

[khellendros1]

The reason that I don't have Killzone 2 is because like most PS3 owners FPS's are not my favorite genre. Also, there is a huge backlog of outstanding games on the PS3 that a lot of people are working through. Since Killzone 2 came out I've bought Valkyria Chronicles, and Ferrari Challenge. Not to mention UT3 came out with the Titan Pack so that new content has kept me busy in the shooter department. That doesn't include the multiplat stuff like SF4. The 360 is the land of the shooter and that's what most of its fans love. You can't expect the same results on the PS3 but Sony must have shooters if they want to compete in the Western market. To most Sony fans FPS are secondary.

[Aclay]

As a Playstation guy, I never became a regular player of Shooters until I got a PS3 and until this gaming generation started. During previous gaming generations, I only played a very small handful of shooters, but now I'm pretty fond of them.

However, even though FPS isn't my favorite genre, I do like playing FPS games, and I had always been anticipating Killzone 2 ever since it was announced, so for me it was a day one purchase and I really wanted to support the title.

Personally for me as a Playstation fan, FPS games aren't secondary, but pretty much any game that isn't a PS3 exclusive is secondary for me, mostly because I believe in supporting the 1st party titles and exclusive games first and foremost, and because for the most part, Exclusive games really take advantage of a console and I want to pay my money for the best, but that's just me.

[Firstkn1ghT]

"pretty much any game that isn't a PS3 exclusive is secondary for me, mostly because I believe in supporting the 1st party titles and exclusive games first and foremost, and because for the most part, Exclusive games really take advantage of a console and I want to pay my money for the best, but that's just me."

LMFAO! The saddest thing I have ever read on here.

[LiquifiedArt]

Killzone2 for me has been the best shooter of all time. I've already sunk 30+hours into the online alone and i'm on my second run-through on 'Elite' in the single player campaign.

I will agree its not as fully featured as say Halo, with its offline/splitscreen play, but the clan support is unmatched and the visceral feel of the game is beyond anything i've layed my hands on.

For everyone doubting, it really is a great game. if you buy it you wont be dissapointed. Just dont go playing it with a negative attitude, play it like any new game with a desire to enjoy your time with it.

[OneShotThrill]

m tired of every shooter being compared to Halo or COD....I like difference...thats what keep video games fresh...competition and new experience...not COD 38 or Halo:STD or whatever sequels might follow up the same gameplay mechanics just to rake in millions of sales and keep no talent 12 yr olds playing online

[chidori666]

i have one copie of the best game of ps3

[Deadman64]

:'(

[nefertis]

Why does anyone listen to this dude, one minute he's on sony side next he's against sony wat a loser.

[MainEventX]

It's true Playstation Gamers don't buy games simple and plain. I'm a Playstation lover and it saddens me to see Sony putting out quality titles and their fanbase don't buy the goods. One thing I give Xbox gamers is they support their system and purchase content thats why Microsoft is ahead right now, also sells numbers have nothing to do with the quality of a game.

[Myst]

Yay I'm part of that 6% and happy about it :)

[NegativeCreep427]

But how the F*ck can this assessment be made if Sales numbers for Killzone 2 across all the regions it is currently available in haven't even been made available to the public yet? Tomorrow, April 3, will mark the fifth full week that Killzone 2 has been available on the open market. No official press release yet on the numbers for the game.

What does the Hip Hop Gamer think he's Chuck Norris now and he can sneak through SCE/Guerilla Corporate and steal the financial statements involving Killzone 2 and be the first to provide the results? Not F'n Likely. This is all B.S. just to garner hits.

I call Extreme Bullsh*t on these so-called "calculations"

[Firstkn1ghT]

Not surprised. Been saying this for awhile now. The majority of ps3 owners are non gamers. I personally know about 7 people that own a ps3 with a nice collection of bluray movies and zero games. That is why the majority of Sony's big exclusives don't hit the expected sales numbers.

[sak500]

Time for GG to go under. They will not recoup the time and money spent. Even with the 50mil sony threw their way.

[Slinger420]

We all know that the 360 has a much younger fanbase who absolutey love shooters. I still think Killzone 2 will sell five million over the next two years. I have my copy so I'm happy. Along with Left4Dead it's my favorite game right now.

[Pootie Tang]

The reason this topic generates hits and all these responses is KZ2 WAS supposed to be the PS3's big thing. From the first video when it was shown at E3 it was hailed as the second coming. It WAS supposed to be the end of the 360, the greatest looking game, the greatest etc etc etc

So as it turns out the game, although great, did NOTHING. Mediocre sales which were completely unexpected. So it does draw one to question-WHY?????Why don't PS3 owners buy games??

PS- I Played Resistance 2 tonight-WTF?? This game is unreal, why isn't it selling? And where are the ppl online. That's what the big question is- WHERE ARE THE SONY GAMERS?? I can put any game in my 360 and find full online matches pretty much anytime, its 1 am and i can get a packed COD3 match of my choosing, I put in R2 and it's a graveyard. COD3 is 3yrs old

i notice some ppl wont accept the KZ2 #'s - goto the leaderboard, see the 800,000 users who have played online so far and yes 1.2-1.3 is prob stretching it.

[airforcex]

I was excited to get this game. It is fun, no doubt. But it's way over-rated, like Halo, MGS4, etc. I did expect it to sell more. Not good. By the way, I think it killed my PS3 (waiting to get it back).

[caffman]

and I'm lending my copy today to my mate who doesn't play online so he can complete it

[aaron5829]

I'm one of the 6% who's lucky enough to own it.

The place where i live, KZ2 has been sold out since day 1.

[Chippydip]

sorry we don't all rally behind one game. there's another system for that. three hundred and sixty guesses who the culprit is!

[timmyrulz]

I bought a PS3 to play this game, funny thing is i havent bought it yet.

[likedamaster]

LOL

[cpt_kaos]

Considering the variety of games genres on PS3 is vastly superior and cater to more broader audience means it's no surprise that PS3 owners aren't mindless zombies with nothing but a whole library of shooters.

[Tru_Blu]

If so, they are missing out. Killzone rocks the rocks.

[XDF]

But return the game to Gamestop after one week. The control really suck no matter how you guys Spin it.

This game will be one of the most return game this year.

[mastiffchild]

Most of the hype for the product is justified and the rest only exists on sites like this.
Demographics, choice and the relative libraries of each console make reading sales data ricky and different for each too.
Don't agree about the controls at all and I'm not into spin tbh. Imo(see what I did there?)the controls on KZ2 are the best for any dual analogue shooter ever. The extra weight adds an immersion that isn't there with even great shooters like COD4 with floaty, flicky controls schemes.
Was just playing through the train level again and, honerstly, if that doesn't impress you then you're a mystery to me. Best FPS level on consoles since All Ghillied Up in COD4MW.Obviously, IMO.

[ultimolu]

Whatever HHG, just whatever.

[XDF]

Yea HHG said Killzone 2 sale surpasses Halo 3,LMFAO, so whatever HHG is right my friend.

[ultimolu]

-_- Isn't it pass your bedtime?

Because seriously, anyone who quotes VG Chartz is full of it. HHG writers are full of it.

[deno]

I purchased a copy of this game and beat it, also played a little online. Recently traded it in for store credit for the conduit. My favorite game this gen is still uncharted and viking.

[FF7numbaone]

WELL, theres not much for them to buy over the summer. So until call of duty 4 comes out they have alot of time to go get it.

[Zephyrus_808]

Maybe this just suggests that there are more quality games for PS3 other than Killzone 2. Besides, apart from the hype from gaming websites, its marketing campaign was pretty poor, and its still not really a household name like 'Call of Duty' is now. People these days aren't willing to try new things so they stick with their well-known and well-established franchises such as CoD or Medal of Honour.

[maverick1191]

LMAO VGchartz are always right aint they? NEVER ever believe figures

[Blackcanary]

People that just through figures and numbers around just comes to show that there not real gamers. Gamers don't care about how much a game sold all the care about is great game play and more games coming to there console so they can play.

Killzone 2 is a great game and from what i saw and played it wasn't a flop.

God when you guys start getting paid by how well a game sold on a console get a life.

Be a Gamer not a how many games sold counter. That's just stupidity in the most.

The little kids on N4G are really starting to show there age.

[Blackcanary]

Don't how i got a disagree can someone till me when did Gamers care more about sales than gaming, playing games and game play.

[Mars Attacker]

When Halo 3 first came out didn't 50+% buy it in the first month? Of course most people bought 360's to play games. A large % of PS3 owners bought them to play Blu Rays or JRPGs. Killzone is much more of a 360/PC style FPS, so all things considered the dismal sales are not surprising.

[mattgdumb]

maybe because it sux ass

[DethWish]

Sony has never been dependant on just 1 title have they. Not for ps1, not for ps2, neither for ps3. The chance a title will sell more than a 360 one is pretty slim. I don't buy kz2 cuz I don't want it :) (tales of vesperia when are you coming.....)

[kewlkat007]

the sales and the market-share, you rally do not have to especially all them big 3rd-party titles that built up the brand and have now gone multiplatform.

Things seems to be different, this time around.

[newneto]

And I am quite happy with. I wish I have more time to play.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I bet if Killzone 2 were a Blu-ray movie it would be about 70% :D

[II Necroplasm II]

I don't know man MGS4 didn't hit 70% XD

[likedamaster]

ROFL!

[STONEY4]

Wow, even though I love MGS4, Necroplasm I lol'd.

[Arnon]

I loved MGS4 and that was one of the most funniest things I've read all day Necro. Thanks xD

[Hockey11]

Fanboyism aside that was LOL-worthy Necro.

[kewlkat007]

Denyit all you want.

Plenty have PS3 because of just Blu-Ray movies. No there is nothing bad about that. Sony gets a sale nevertheless but at the same time it's fanbase is skewed.

How strong is the actual PS3 fanbase when it comes to game purchasing power? as opposed to other consoles, that others would rarely get, to watch just DVD movies? Besides DVD movie players being $35 at Walmart. Unless you think DD already have a strong market in terms of the Xbox 360.

I know 3 people that would buy a PS3, if it was cheaper.(They are gamers)

[LiquifiedArt]

Sony's biggest problem is the Entry-Point. The PRICE is too high.

I do think its worth all 600$ I paid for it, along with the 4500$TV and the 5.1 surround sound. Its a great gaming experience, but for the average joe-shmoe, its still too high.

[callahan09]

I don't even care about sales. I don't understand the mindset of every PS3 owner out there. It seems PS3 owners have a very diverse set of interests and as games spread through word of mouth, their sales continue slowly but surely over the long-run. I'm not really sure, though. I know that I got Killzone 2 and it's a very, very good game. That's all that matters. As an owner of a console, I just care that I'm provided with a large library of excellent software to play, and the PS3 has certainly got that. If some games sell well, if some don't, whatever. . . I know that I have good games to play and quite frankly I only care about myself.

[Captain Tuttle]

There's some very sensitive people here on N4G.

[DARK WITNESS]

you noticed too.

is it just me or has the tune changed a little bit ?

[negative]

You lil Sony fanboys get SO hurt over this stuff LOL.

Get out more.

[deividpaulo]

that's a LIE....anotheer xplodefanboy lie...

I have 100 friends in may PSN friend list, and 96 has the KZ2...

why the xplode360fan boys are so PATETIC???

[Mr Blings]

I fired up Killzone 2 multiplayer for the first time in a week or two. I was at first searching in my region for games and there were very few. I then tried world wide and still there were only a few handfulls of full games and then a bunch with one or 2 players in them. Has the multi player community really dropped this far this fast? or was it just a fluke when I was on?

[deividpaulo]

1.1 million sold JUST IN PRE-ORDER...

Think about it!!

[Pootie Tang]

Then why don't they pick their games up from the store. That figure was tossed around months ago and is garbage. 1.2-1.3 mil worldwide after first month--------goto to the leaderboards 4 urself

[man0fsteel]

20,000,000 x .06 = 1.2 million

give me an f'ing break

these people who write articles are ridiculous

[Rock_On_PS4]

Killzone 2 is a graphical upgraded version of Call of Duty 4. KZ2 tries to copy ideas from many shooter games and well it is a good game but does not stand out from the competition.

[QuackPot]

Fact is:
* Killzone 2 will or has already made a profit
* Killzone 2 will get even better with DLC(vehicles/new maps) and tweaks.
* Killzone 2 will become a classic title to own by gaming Ps3 owners.

Sales, smales. That's the typical rubbish coming from xbox fanatics - what about the sales?

Sheez. Boring.

[someanimalsdance]

yeah, typical coming from 360 fanatics!

Sales are not important, because if they were, then the PS3 would be losing! we cannot consider SALES!

Imean its not like Guerilla is trying to SELL this game, its not like good games SELL well or anything! the PS3 wasnt created to be SOLD either! DUH sauce!

-what a stupid comment.

[prejur]

This is very odd. I thought Killzone 2 would be up with Halo as far as sales ratio per console.

[Anon1974]

That just left me scratching my head. Why on earth would you compare this game's sales to Halo? Or even Gears for that matter. You might as well compare LBP sales to Banjo - Nuts and Bolts. Different games on different consoles. I see no correlation there.
Or are you just being sarcastic?

[Lawliet]

"**Source vgchartz.com**"
ah.... That's the problem right there. Come on HHG, you guys can do better than this, be who you are! It's about time you wake up!

[JeffGUNZ]

hard to believe. Where are those numbers coming from. Almost all the people I know who own a PS3, own KZ2. Haha, is this from hiphopgamer?

[Anon1974]

Out of all the people I know with PS3's, I'm the only one who has Killzone 2. The others are curious and I get questions when they see me playing it but most of my shooter buddies are playing COD-WAW.

Here's a bit of a news flash that eludes some. PS3 games don't sell the same as 360 games. With the 360, the hot new games are usually snapped up then fall off quickly. On the PS3 the gamers tend to be more casual. They don't line up for game launches or worry about "day one" purchases. They pick up games when they're good and ready. That's why a game like Motorstorm won't break 500,000 in the first month but will go on to sell over 3.5 million. Slow and steady. We're seeing that happening again with Resistance 2 - just like the first and the same with LBP. It's just a different demographic. Not to say there aren't hardcore gamers like myself who want the hot, new game day one - but that's not the whole PS3 fanbase like it is with the 360.

[JeffGUNZ]

I respect your opinion, but I strongly disagree. You can't label millions of xbox owners, that's impossible to do. I think the main differance is marketing. I think Microsoft pushes their games harder then sony, hence more mid-night releases. You don't see AS MANY mid-night launches for Sony games, not like Halo and Gears, they throw events, where you win prizes and contests. I know so many people who own 360's that don't buy the games at day 1. I think marketing for these games is the key. Look at Halo 3, everyone including their grandmothers knew this game was coming out and exactly what date. Killzone 2 had no marketing and media, it was a let down, because that game deserves it. Sony just doesn't get people excited to pick up games right when the release.

[Keowrath]

I bought it and it's a great FPS, I'm not a big FPS fan though and actually prefer Resident Evil 5. Last generation, most shooter fans were playing Xbox, PS was pretty much all genres BUT FPS. I'd say the same still applies for the majority. I don't play KZ online, I did, for about 3 or 4 matches day of release and got completely obliterated, I'll stick with streetfighter for my online entertainment.

One thing though... This really is flame bait, there is absolutely NO REASON for this to be posted in the 360 area. I've never watched a HHG podcast so when people have said that all his stuff is pure flame bait I haven't commented. But posting how many people play a game on the PS3 has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other console.

[thelastsnake]

So what if this is true killzone 2 is a great game with a kickass online multiplayer any killzone 2 owner would agree.

[kelvin22]

First of as stated this is somewhat of anew franchise so give it some time and I noticed that these statstics were made the week killzone 2 came out which does not parallel what it has sold now. And if this was true so what this has nothing to do with how ridiculosly perfec this game is.

[Claudinho69]

what percentage of 360 owners have halo wars

[DJ]

How times have changed.

[Sez]

yeah. Only 3.5% of 360 owners have halo wars. Funny thing about that is. It didn't have 4 years of hype as KZ 2 had. Nice try though.

[crillyconlig]

variety of games avaliable and COD

half my friends list is still playing cod, there happy enough and dont want another shooter, i keep telling them they are missing out

[Anon1974]

All my shooter friends are playing COD-WAW and COD4 still. They're curious about KZ2 and have asked me questions when they see me playing it but haven't made the leap yet and might not.
I've heard a few times "Didn't like the controls. Felt slow. Should be more like Call of Duty," and I've always responded "But it's not Call of Duty and isn't trying to be. Once you get over the simple fact that it's not COD you'll have a blast! I know I am."

[All-3]

Regardless of the --> VARIETY <-- of games to choose from, for the PS3... it APPEARS that --> the BIGGEST exclusive shooter to date for the PS3, hasn't seen the sales numbers that another console competitor's exclusive shooters have enjoyed....

So MAYBE... --> just --> MAYBE <-- there aren't as many FPS fans that own a PS3 as some might have once thought?

[DJ]

Same for the 360 population. The last few titles released on that platform had big sales, but only catered to about 3~8% of the population.

If games are being purchased by half of all platform owners, that means there's not enough games being produced, or that the population isn't diverse enough. Simple as that.

[truehunter]

Whats missing ?? Well A good jRPG & Action games. Thats my part in play.

[be_wrong]

hmmm 6% wow maybe the number of sales and topping sales doesn't count here :P or maybe only 6% as well because they have a lot of games to play on the system :P

[skottey]

Morbius420 said "I may be an Xbox 360 fan
but I see no logic in your comment. You can buy a stand alone blu-ray player for less than a PlayStation 3 so why would you use one just for watching movies?"

In 2007 and early 2008, PS3 was priced at $500-$600, which made it the cheapest bluray player at the time. Stand alone players were $1000 or more at that time. So many of us bought the PS3 as a bluray player. We are not talking about today (spring of 2009).

That is what she was getting at.

Yes, now you can get a $200 bluray player and I myself have a cheaper one for my bedroom in addition to my PS3. The cheaper ones generally do not have Ethernet and support BD Live, which I don't care about. I just watch the movie. I could use the BD Live 2.0 on PS3, but I don't really go for that sort of extra content. Not yet anyway.

[Anon1974]

But even back in 2007, PS3 games sales dwarfed Blu-Ray sales. Blu ray sales topped out at about 10 million worldwide - and not all to PS3 owners. Sony sold over 50 million PS3 games in 2007.

I was always confused back in the beginning when people were arguing that PS3's were just bought as Blu-Ray players when the sales data showed overwhelmingly that people were gaming on their PS3's.

I'm sure somebody bought PS3's to melt together and sit in in the center of the room as a weird art exhibit too or that a portion of 360 sales are people buying new consoles not going through warranty repairs. At the end of the day we'll never know how many people that is so why even bother bringing it up?

[skottey]

darkrides-

it isn't about game sales vs bluray. it is about the fact that only 6% of PS3 owners bought killzone 2 and somebody said bluray had something to do with that and I agree. even if only 5% of 1,000,000 systems sold didn't buy games (like the blu-ray only crowd we speak of), that is 50,000 less peope buying games. So the pool of game buyers is only 950,000. 6% of total owners bought Killzone 2, including that of the bluray crowd that aren't even buying games. A PS3 fanboy should want this to be the case, because 6% of total buyers bought the game, not 6% of game playing buyers. 6% of 1,000,000 is 60,000. 60,000 is a higher pertcentage of 950,000 than it is of 1,000,000, so the number of gamers buying the game is actually a higher percentage. Fanboys, relax. You get so upset when somebody says some purchasers of PS3 aren't gamers. It makes the system look better. It is saying, "the system is so good, even non-gamers are buying it for bluray." Instead the touchy PS3 fanboys immediately take it as an insult to their precious system.

Take a 70 year old man. This man absolutely refuses to play games, but he would love to watch movies in blu-ray. He buys a PS3. Wow, even a non-gamer just bought the system. It must be that good! Sony is not stupid, they learned from their mistakes about the Beta-max and did everything they could to beat HD-DVD with their blu-ray technology. HD-DVD technology for movies, in my opinion, was better. But it doesn't matter now, blu-ray won! So Sony wins there with all the licensing fees from the studios. Secondly, they had a lot of people buying PS3 because other players cost more. I believe they did this on purpose because they knew non-gamers would buy a PS3 and maybe, just maybe, they would make inroads on a demographic that "would never buy a video game console" Once in the door, they would try a game or two possibly. Now, I am of the opinion that they should have released more family style games. I don't play that stuff but a non-gamer is more likely to play a wii style family game than a FPS. They lost out on an opportunity. Now, people are buying cheaper players for blu-ray. They could have gone after the non-gamers, which is why wii is so widely successful.

[DirtyLary]

And 50% of that 6% have already bored and traded in their game patiently waiting for MW2

[II Necroplasm II]

yup. Can't wait for that game.

[Sez]

yeah i was one of the 6% that brought KZ2 and i guess i'm one of the 50% that traded the game back to gamestop for RE5.

[XPC HARDonE]

the reason KZ2 isnt being embraced by PS3 owners in large numbers is because of the diverse user base.

The Wii has a diverse user base and that diversity resulted in history shattering console sales.

PS3 has a diverse user base so its in 3rd and its "killer app" the game with earth shattering graphics KZ2 is only being played by a small percentage of its owners

hip hop gamer is not a reputable site, unless of course his nonsense is pro ps3

vgchartz is not a reputable site, of course there are no reputable sources for sale numbers. go ahead pick a source and someone will dismiss your agruement because of it.

usual n4g non conversation

[Anon1974]

5 weeks in, Killzone 2 and Fable 2 had both been picked up by roughly 6 percent of the installed base. Where were the articles about 94% of 360 owners passing on one of the only AAA exclusives the 360 had last year?
VGchartz is just like NPD group, it's just an estimate. It's better for historical data as they adjust their numbers when official numbers from the console makers and publishers are available but there is no real accurate source for any type of weekly numbers.
PS3 fans were excited about Killzone 2 and rightly so and so far it delivered an excellent game and strong sales. No one was saying Killzone 2 was going to set new sales records or even get close to Gears/Halo type numbers. The idea that anyone but the most delusional fan had been saying Killzone 2 would set sales records is absurd. All you need to do is search for Killzone in the news, go back a few months or a year and read the talkback in the forums.

I think it's funny that the 360 camp jumps all over this with claims that it was PS3 camp that claimed record sales. The PS3 camp expected strong sales and that proved accurate.

[Trekster_Gamer]

The game just must not be that good. Looks like another Little Big Planet, as far as sales go. IF the game is good people will buy it, so if this 6% is true then the game must not be that good....

But at least you have a good BR player....

[Moe_OwnZ]

i blame the marketing and advertising of the game... the game wasn't given an opportunity to SHINE!...
and you 3FIXME bots probably think thats its not selling well cuz its " crap " or sumtin.. well think again FREAKS!!!!
i think sony really need to work on their advertising

[lowcarb]

Wow it sucks to see another PS3 game is not selling so well, but at the same time funny because Sony fanboys kept talking hype crap. Karmas a b!tch I guess lol.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Do you listen to yourself when to talk, or do you just say things in a forlorn hope that once it gets out that it makes sense?

[dj55555555]

Its the same as the little big planet article that came out and it will be the same with the next PS3 exclusive. It just shows the true colours of the competition and envy green is a bad colour.

[Condemnedman]

Come on, killzone2 never cost 50 million to make! did it ? why not keep the 50 million and stop being greedy how many copies do you need to sell to make a profit ?? this is not aimed just at Sony and GG this is at all the greedy companies who risk huge amounts of money to make huge amounts of money? .

[CobraKai]

If I didn't already own KZ2, that "behind the bullet" real time Demo-mercial would have sealed the deal.

[KrimsonKody]

Many PS3 owners have a variety in great game choices right about now. I mean, I consider myself to be a Hardcore gamer (been playing since The Guardian Legend, kids), but between work, life and things like that, I can only find time to 'really' enjoy a handful of games at a time. For example:
I'm having a ball online with SFIV,
I'm on my second campaign with FallOut3 (I wanted to run through the game killing everyone possible, just to build up all that 'bad karma'),
I still play LBP, at times, just to see what's new,
I just started The Godfather2 yesterday (sshhh!),
I get my shooting fixes with KZ2, RE5, and I think I'm really gonna like H.A.W.X,
And that's part of what I do on the PS3 alone, not to mention all the other games I play elsewhere (360,psp, old school games on pc)
So when it comes down to it, it's all about personal choice, and what is worth your time. I know, for me, when I sit to play a game, I no longer have time to play a decent game or even a AAA title that I'm simply just not that into. Oh course, anyone can see all the great games here/coming, but um, did'nt you just spend $60 for a game you like and enjoy, but you just find yourself playing so much of something else, ( SFIV )?
Bottom Line:
Let's stop number-crushing, people,
and just enjoy games!
(Got DAmn)

[younglj01]

I agree with you 100% its like tha gaming world is full with kids sometimes.Even though I'm 22 I miss tha days where you can just talk about games and didnt have to worry about startin a flame war.

[younglj01]

Man I thought this site was called NET 4 GAMERS.But all I see is alot of b1tching.KILLZONE 2 is a great to have if you own a PS3.Most people is not into FPS and I used to be one of those people until I played Call of Duty:Modern Warfare.And I have to say that KILLZONE 2 is a way better game then COD:MW.From tha story to tha online play KILLZONE 2 fixed everything that should have been in COD:MW.And now that MW2 is coming I might be gettin another FPS I just hope its not a letdown like COD:WAW was.And for tha 6% of tha people that is playing KILLZONE 2 hope to come across you online.PEACE

[JeepGamer]

Ah, the life of a good PS3 exclusive... First it starts with excitement, followed by months of denials about how good it will be or and assertions about how it won't 'save' the PS3... Then it moves on to being picked and poked at for stupid reasons to find something wrong with it... Then it moves on to 'it's over hyped'... Then, finally, the deniers have to dragged whining and crying in to the fact that it is a really good game that lived up to what people expected, but as this is a PS3 exclusive they just can't accept they were wrong and move on.

First you go on about #s sold and try to find a way to downplay them, and when that fails you do stupid crap like this article does.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Yeah, pretty much. Look for the same thing to happen when inFamous comes out.

[beans]

It's a freaking conspiracy and the people who dislike all the so called epic PS3 games are all in denial. whatever

[Enigma_2099]

... why the PS3 still needs saving... when the competitor's machine is the one that keeps falling over dead?

[JeepGamer]

Would you like to explain why every comment you've made recently is either anti-Sony or pro-360? You seem keen to jump all over anyone who tries to defend a Sony title and ardently stick up for MS every chance you get.

You don't have to be objective, but don't pretend that you're being unbiased, and never use the term fanboy to describe anyone else if you plan on looking yourself in the mirror.

[actas123]

smack that

[KrimsonKody]

WHY IS'NT ANYONE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE GODFATHER2?
IMO, I enjoy the first one like crazy, and the second looks to be (GASPS) better than GTAIV!
I mean, alot probably think "oh, it's a game based on a classic movie you've seen over a thousand times", but I never got that feeling playing the first one.
I know, I rambled,
But I'm just saying.....
Oh, and how many garbage games do the PS3 have? I'm talking pure, onechanbara garbage?
(crickets)
Little things like this should help show the level of quality SONY is aiming for.

[kunark]

reason i didnt but kz2 is im not a fps gamer i like rpgs like god of war and uncharted cant wait for uncharted 2 and god of war 3 i also like sports games but fps just isnt my cup of tea as my grandma would day

[sak500]

Then all i can say is u bought the wrong console. The only games good enough on ps3 are FPS & TPS.

[STONEY4]

So LittleBigPlanet, God of War, Gran Turismo, Motorstorm, and MLB The Show are all FPS and TPS? Do your research before posting comments like that.

[sak500]

@stoney

So how is GOW3 ? You must have received early copies of 2010 dated games like GT5 and GOW3. So if someone bought a ps3 in 2006, they should wait 4 years before they can play something other than fps/tps? How about realtime strategy games, JPRPGS, Platformers? racers other than MS and MS2? how much diverse is ps3s library?

Pls next time you open your mouth other than for smoking sony d!ck pls think twice.

[STONEY4]

Hey, I was just talking about PS3 retail exclusives that weren't TPS or FPS, there are many great multiplatform games on the system. Not to mention alot of the great PSN downloadable games like WipEout HD, Flower, PixelJunk Monsters, Burn Zombie Burn, and many others.

[BULLETBOI]

To be honest, sales sometimes don't show what the game is about...you know...the gameplay....I'm gonna be honest, i didn't buy a PS3 for Killzone 2 but games like FF, MGS, GTA, and sports games...but when i show killzone 2 it blew me away...and i had to buy it on day one....

P.S...wait till one year to judge this game....

[beans]

SO sales don't matter but if you wait for one year they will? Also KZ2 is a visual masterpiece for PS3 but adds nothing new to the table so why buy a game for that? SAles matter to developers and if this keeps up I can see almost everything heading to 360 before we no it.

[pshizle]

manly for a bluray player

i mean i did buy it for a bluray player last june... but i did buy killzone2 and consider it an overhyped fps with mediocre controls and dialog.

[Anon1974]

Sales doesn't back this claim up. PS3 game sales dwarf Blu-Ray sales worldwide. In 2007 10 million Blu-Ray disks were sold (and not all to PS3 owners) vs over 50 million PS3 games. I'm sure some people out there may have bought the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player only, but the evidence says PS3's are game consoles first.

And again, only 6% of 360 owners picked up Fable 2 in the first 5 weeks. No one is saying this must mean most people bought their 360's as space heaters. Why would you jump to the conclusion that "Oh, well people must use the PS3 only for Blu-Ray" ?

[beans]

In Fables defense it was no where near as hyped up as KZ2. KZ2 was labled halo status even above MGS4 and still did poorly. What's interesting is the fact that KZ2 is competing with Fable 2 and not even in the same ballpark as other high profile 360 games regardless of it's hype just like LBP.

[josephat84]

I have killzone 2 and honestly can say that it's awesome. Seriously people, the multiplayer is amazing. I have played halo 3 and gears of war 2. I love it.

[XPC HARDonE]

I'm sure back at sony headquaters they are not happy with these numbers. I'm sure they would like at least 25% of their user base to purchase this game.

Overtime perhaps that will happen.

Keep in mind despite the all the hype, this was an important game for sony. I remember all the talk that this would convince people to buy a PS3. This game was years in the making, and it shows, the game is beautiful. But I bet the accountants over at sony are looking at the bottem line and shaking thier heads.

I dont care though, its a great game, and sony has deep pockets, I'm sure this wont stop them from forking over the dough for another console exclusive that demonstrates the capabilites of the PS3.

too bad hardly anyone will play it.

oh yeah comparing killzone 2 with fable 2 doesnt work, Killzone is something fresh and new in terms of console graphics, fable was a minor update to the previous game.

Killzone 2 has a lot more riding on it for sony.

Maybe give it time, and the numbers will grow.

Then again maybe not, I wonder what the next sony non system seller will be.

[earwax]

"ur stupid enough not to want to play killzone 2, uncharted, ratchet and clank future, MGS4, resistance 1 and 2, and heavenly sword"

Who said I did not? I played everyone of them except for R&C (Kids game) funny how the games you listed are THE ONLY good games on the system and for the record.......I put KZ2 in and it is NOT blowing my mind,next to COD4 & W@W it is weak,I could not finish the 1st level yet. That is going on ebay the SECOND I finish it.

[mario888]

Just say Killzone is too hard for me.

I need a game like COD where I can just pull the gun up and let the Auto aim do my aimimg for me.

[firebat]

it just goes to show u that most ps3 owners only use it for a blueray player or else it would only say 6% havent baught killzone

[Horny]

I still havent bought it, matter of fact I havent bought anything Sony since January when my PS3s bluray drive failed and sony wanted to charge me 150 to fix it. I bought 6 games on the 360 since which were almost all multiplat which i usually get on ps3, so by not fixing my ps3 for cheaper they are missing out on more money from me.

[BobbySaget]

If i had a PS3 i wouldnt buy KZ2.

THINK ABOUT IT, 90% of all games made are First Person Shooters. ENOUGH ALREADY. I believe the majority of people who bought this game were MORE interested in reinforcing their decision to purchase a PS3, and less worried with gameplay. Thus why they spam every message board with comments on how KZ2 PWNS the 360.

sure, maybe the 360 has a large lead in console sales over the PS3. But have you seen the GAME sales? The 360 is absolutely demolishing the PS3 when it comes to the sale of games. (look it up yourself). It's because, obviously, gameplay, multiplayer, storey, etc - come first. (No im not saying the PS3 is stronger, im saying that EVEN IF IS, it doesnt matter. look at the sales)

With resistance 1 and 2, COD4, and World at WAR, and MGS4, i doubt any gamer who was occupied with actually enjoying games (instead of trying to claim they had better GRAFIX than the 360) would be compelled to waste another 60$ on another FPS with lackluster multiplayer (kz2). (pretend im not a fanboy for a second, it makes sense.

And please dont try to tell me KZ2 PWNs. I have played a million times. There is a 'TURRET LIMIT' online which is just frustrating as hell. The constant SPAWNING on top of enemies is just as annoying. I would much much much much rather player COD4.

IF I had a PS3 i would Roll Uncharted, Little big planet, and maybe Heavy Rain if it ends up being any good. Then i would save up the rest of my money for a 360 and roll Mass effect/Gears.

[HelghastKid]

"But have you seen the GAME sales?The 360 is absolutely demolishing the PS3 when it comes to the sale of games."
Where? In the World of America? PS3 has been smashing the 360 in sales of games everywhere besides 360's home base of America.

KZ2 has lackluster multiplayer? LMAO that was the funniest thing i heard all day! Just because you suck at it doesn't mean it has bad online. And having a turret limit doesnt make the game bad in fact i prefer it that wway so people dont keep spamming the sh!t all the time.

Oh one last thing.... You dont spawn on top of enimies unless you choose to spawn there loser. Go play COD cus we all know in COD people dont spawn camp like in every other game....

Ahhh sry seriously my last thing.... You dont even have a PS3 and your talking sh!t? LMAO your a funny man

[beans]

Keep on spreading fud and denying the truth. The more I read Sony fanboy comments the more I realize how out of touch they all really are. After E3 you will be on your knee's wishing you had just shut the heck up.

[BobbySaget]

Im talking about total sales, not American sales.
Why dont you go look at the charts.....

Not to mention the slew of PS3 PLAYER articles claiming that KZ2 had subpar multiplayer. Maybe you forgot to read the article you were posting under. only 6% of PS3 owners have bought this game. If the multiplayer (or the entire game for that matter) is so GOOD. Then why is KZ2 currently sitting in 20th place in sales, selling less than Halo wars, and selling slower than Wrestle Mania? RE5 on the 360 ( a multi-platform game) has sold more copies than KZ2 has in total.

So instead of attacking me for preferring the 360, id suggest you look at the figures yourself. Next you will tell me that sales don't matter. Because clearly 'GOOD' games are meant for selling.

oh and last thing... i dont suck at KZ2 MP, i could work you over anyday. Unlike you, i dont simply enjoy a game based on how many 'headshots' i get, otherwise i would love every first person shooter. Thus why i brought up the fact that everyone is a engineer, wasting their choice, because there is a limit to TURRET's. And regardless of weather or not you can choose where to spawn, the placable spawn points just cuase drama. Why exactly do you think the multiplayer is so great?

[HelghastKid]

Dam the 360 fans are in full blast today lol

I love all the comments like: "See i told u teh ps3 was just for bluray!"

In case you jackholes havent realized the ps3 is a console with many gamers who prefer different genres. Actually sony has been doing that since the ps1. So just because the killzone isnt selling like 5mil in a day doesnt mean ps3 owners don't buy games. It means we have differnt tastes in games besides shooters :)

I think this whole gen, MS and Sony have been switching up their games. Last gen it was:
MS=Shooters
Sony=Rpgs
Now it's opposite of each other and ms is trying to focus on its rpgs to draw in those gamers, and Sony is trying to focus on shooters to draw those types of gamers

Opps forgot to say i guess im one of those 6% that got the game. 1st day actually...havent been on in a week cus ive been playing Folklore to get my rpg time in....Think im gonna buy Disgaea3 and VC. Can anyone tell me if these are worth buying?

[NotSoSilentBob]

Highly recommend Both Disgaea3 and VC. Japan got a Trophy patch for Disgaea3 and there is alot of request for Eu & Na patches for trophies too. VC is getting DLC soon most people are figuring extra missions

[Spike47]

They just want to mark K2 as a flop because it didn't sell "teh 2 million copies" in what..2 days?

[ShabzS]

man i bet that 6% is here on n4g..

[BobbySaget]

Nothing said has been more true EVER in the history of.. everything.

[ShabzS]

but i've seen that game in action... very impressive

[NotSoSilentBob]

ahh this is funny DigShltGamer is desperate for hits so he has to rely on VgGuess, I mean charts, for his numbers. I just wish N4g would get some sense and block VgGuess and DesperateHitsGamer from this website.

[commando34]

People should give this game a chance it is a load of fun. I can understand though why only 6% percent bought it compared to the HUGE marketing of Halo 3 and Gears of War. Killzone 2 just didn't get the same treatment it deserved to get.

[Minimox16]

(1,320,000/21,550,000) ok you can say that, but you are not counting that killzone 2 its not release in japan and you are counting the ps3 all over the world including japan... so please do you math right or state that 6% of ps3 user buy killzone but the major place where ps3 are its japan, and killzone its not for japan yet.

@ HelghastKid
definitely disagea3 and VC worth to buy!!! ;)

[Arnon]

This game is fun but it is seriously lacking in content. A handful of weapons. A 6-7 hour story. A multiplayer with only 10 ranks and 8 maps.

I haven't touched the game in a while...

Idk.

[Claudinho69]

i just went to best today and killzone 2 was sold out..over one month later...

[XLiveGamer]

"halo 3 and gears 2 didnt really come out in the recession did they? also while 360 has only 2 BIG franchises (halo gears) ps3 has loadz, resistance, metal gear, gran turismo, uncharted + thats why games sell less on ps3, cuz theres more games :) "

LOL!!!! What a dumb ignorant post! LOL!!!!

Thats not the reason. Its because there is more hardcore gamers on the side of Xbox360

I have bought 37 Xbox 360 titles and just have keep 16 of them and i am not the only one.

Why you people don't understand that a LOT of PS3 owners got one primarily for the Blu Ray movies but also because they like video games. Example of that its my brother who only have one game (Killzone 2) and because i make him buy it. He is not into gaming like me he just rent video games most of the time. Also my friend that its like a brother to me he did the same thing too he only have Oblivion, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and MGS4.

Oh you dont believe me ask around even here on N4G ask any Xbox 360 owner.
I consider my self a hardcore gamer. :)

[Aven86]

Let's not forget that Killzone came out between two awesome games. First came Street Fighter 4, then Killzone, and lastly RE 5. SF and RE has a much bigger userbase, so what that means is that ppl that were on the edge of buying KZ, but they also like SF they will probably buy SF over KZ, cause they KNOW they will like SF.

It comes down to bad timeing, and little or no advertising.

[Becko]

I want RPGs , western or japanese I just want rpgs... I had to import Demon's Soul ... PS3 was supposed to be a RPG focus machine... not FPS focus... FPS focus is on 360... that's why SO4 didn't sell well because it's on the wrong machine.

[krouse93]

I'm one of the Percentage then cause i bought Killzone 2.

[Thoreau]

why all of the negativity?

[SinnedNogara]

Sad, it is a awesome game. Just completely amazing.

Shame on those who don't want to buy it because of what happened with Killzone 1!!

[Gue1]

Well, I am pretty tired of FPS and no matter how great they are I don't want to play any for a while plus Killzone 2 came a little too late... There are other great games on the PS3 that aren't FPS and soon more will come so Killzone 2 will need to wait a couple of years for me to play it.

[PSGamingInc]

Sony and their fanboys were worried about Killzone 2 selling systems when they should have been worried about Killzone 2 selling Killzone 2.

Overrated, Over hyped and under delivered-"Only on the PS3"

[tonywood24]

I usually don't argue with people on here....however, you have either not played this game, or suck at it. I'm sorry there is not camping or using "super-jumps" for you. Killzone is far beyond anything seen on gaming consoles. If this was on the 360, it would have already reached 3+ million. Yea, I accept the fact that many PS3-gamers make fun of Halo and Gears, knowing damn well that they would love it on the PS3. (The same is with K2) You are entitled to your opinion, but neither the Halo nor the Gears series can match the gameplay mechanics or graphics of K2. The battle at Vasaci Square is one of the greatest battles in FPS history, EVEN IF YOU CHOOSE TO HATE.

[n4gno]

Poor fanbot, you don't have a single fps like that.

[tonywood24]

Call me one of the 6% then. Killzone 2 is awesome, far better than Halo 3, Gears 2, and Resistance 2. First of all, the total sales numbers are WRONG! Yea, it has not reached 2 million sales yet, BUT the total is MORE than 1.5 million sold.

Not bad for a systems with PLENTY of true AAA titles! (I am not going to list any, not here to plead Sony's case.) However, hatin on PS3 games is funny to me....SONY ain't goin anywhere. I don't need to make excuses, SONY is by far THE BEST QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM OUT HERE!! If you can't afford one, then don't buy it. Get a cheap 360 or Wii..(Yea, I said it!) Personally, I don't think there should be a price drop, but understand that the PS3's will fly off shelves!! KEEP HATIN, AND PS3 WILL JUST KEEP MAKING MORE EXCLUSIVES.

[pippoppow]

I'm sure anyone interested in FPS games would be interested in this game as it is of a high quality. 360 fans gloat about numbers as if it equates quality. Fact is almost half the people who have a 360 has it for shooter type games. So when a top tier shooter comes out the sales will be very good to amazing. I believe the PS3 caters to a more eclectic gamer who doesn't have FPS games as their number 1 genre. Also any game that sells over 1 million is considered a big success, sorry fanboy spin masters.

[Jecht]

Another riveting piece of journalism from HHG. Does anyone here really care? I means seriously.

[Nergardless]

killzone didnt live up to the hype it didn't sold out halo (only fanboys really believed in this) maybe it really didnt even sold the amount it should have(lookin at it from the view of sony) and yeah sony once again srewed it up to advertise this game (just like R2) and i can understand the issue with the controlls though personnally i was happy when i read they wont change it

killzone is the best shooter I(!!!) played ever it's the balance in the game thats fascinating 7 classes and there's no class (except the soldier maybe) that i dont love to play plus crossing the second special of the classes how u like it is simply amazing
the objectives changin during the game and these so well balanced maps it all fits together
this where u feel why this game took that much years to develop
and by the way i now played over 83 hours online and i NEVER spawned on someone, had nearly no lag (except the bombplantin objective)
so i really dont know what u people talkin about (u should check ur conection) the clan system implemented is also very nice ->i thought i will buy mw2 by now im not sure im willin to pay 60 bucks for another fps this is just the way i feel

so what does these 6% tryin to tell me (am i really one of those happy ones who decided to play one of the greatest fps on console ever)
everyone should just look if the money u spend was a good investment if it aint the game u looked for sell it if not play it but stop the hate pass this game just like every other u werent confident and stop usein these stupid numbers as if they could tell something about quallity

im sorry for my english i know it isnt the best but im workin on it

[fm81]

killzone 2..LOL..the halo killer..hahahahahaha..what happen killzone deux..u aving trouble..

[Jecht]

Let's see, build a console on ONE franchise, or build a console on MULTIPLE franchises.

See, there's the thing 360 fanboys always seem to forget. Halo 1 was good. And it was the ONLY Halo game that was good. It started the franchise, created expectations, and that's why every other consecutive Halo game sells well. Halo is the Xbox brand. It is expected that the franchise that built the brand will always sell well.

Name the one franchise that propelled the Playstation brand into the stratosphere. You can't, because there isn't any ONE franchise that did it, unlike the Xbox brand which relies on Halo all the time.

You can remain fixed in one place, content to milk something to the very last drop, or you can progress and change. I leave it to you to decide whom is doing what.

[Blackcanary]

To the point that this article is still at the top it means a lot off people including the people leaving negative comments care more about this game than u think. If they didn't they wouldn't even leave a comment they would just read it and move on.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Hell I dont even own KZ2..why well bcuz i can play it at work

[KingKionic]

lol over 230 comments....guess killzone 2 is good. or mabye you guys are critics

[XPC HARDonE]

no one is saying that KZ2 isnt a great game.

Here: KZ 2 is a great game, with revoultionary graphics for a console, it has a fun multiplayer.

The PS# is a great system, it has great exclusives (uncharted, metal gear, etc.), it has blu ray, and its user base is growing wnad will explode when hte price comes down.

All of the above is true, no doubt about it.

BUt its still in third.

Why?

You tell me.

I could bring you numbers and stats but they would only be shot down.

In pure worldwide number the most expensive system available has sold the least consoles and has the smallest avereage attach rate.

I'd call that a success.

Also notice I belittled no one, used no fanboy language, just stating info.

I'd ask that if you respond to this you resond with info not name calling.

To fans of the PS# tell me why the PS3 is not doing as well as it could be, and what you would do if you were in charge of the situation.

Please leave the 360 and wii out of it, just some ideas of what sony could do internally to push this console to no.1.

thanks

[mt]

fanboies want killzone 2 to be down so quickly .