Has Killzone 2 Surpassed the E3 2005 CGI Trailer?

Badass gamer writes

"I am quite sure we are all well aware of the E3 2005 Killzone 2 Trailer, the one which had many people deep in thought as to whether it was pre-rendered or indeed actual gameplay, yes that infamous trailer that has caused a fair bit of controversy over the years...Has the actual Killzone 2 surpassed it?"

[resistance100]

Yes

[thereapersson]

Yep

[jwatt]

I think there are some parts where the game passes the trailer but that is in the graphics. The animations are not better than the 2005 trailer, lets be serious the cgi animations are just too fluid for any game especially when they slid with the vehicle and shot the rocket.

Edit: Honestly I'm so over with the 2005 e3 trailer, the actual game looks so good it shouldn't even matter. You have to give GG props for coming pretty damn close to That awesome cgi trailer.

[iamtehpwn]

best looking console game, although I did note what it was talking about by in comparison to the facial textures being a slightly lower resolution, but it doesn't look bad at all. And Who cares when this game that runs at 1080i native. lol.

[thor]

In a CGI trailer, you have as much time as you want to tweak each individual animation, make them blend smoothly, add as many dynamic lights as you want, use as advanced techniques such as raytracing/ambient occlusion etc, add as many post-processing effects as you want, and touch up any areas of the video that look slightly dodgy. You can make it look as nice as possible by picking the camera angles and the specific parts of gameplay you want to show.

In the actual game, you don't have any of those luxuries. So visually, it actually surpasses the CGI in some ways in my opinion, but if you recorded actual gameplay it wouldn't look as impressive as the CGI trailer only because you've not been able to call the shots in the same way.

Edit @ iamtehpwn

The game runs at 720p native. There is no such thing as 1080i native; because 1080i has the same number of pixels as 1080p, and so then it would be 1080p native. When the devs said it supported 1080i native, they meant that they had a special mode that actually rendered fewer pixels so it would upscale better to 1080i. Seb clarified this after making his original comment, being asked, and then going back to the tech guys.

[JsonHenry]

Not.Even.Close.

Has it surpassed everything else? YES!

[Homicide]

Of course.

[SONYFantard]

It has not only surpassed the E3 Trailer, it has surpassed anything on the 360.. by leaps and beyond!!!

[IzKyD1331]

There is no doubt that this is the best looking console game of all time (and even that is an understatement)

[CrazzyMan]

Just see THIS - http://i37.tinypic.com/spu9...

More here -> http://allgamesbeta.wordpre...

[Dino]

that's sick! is that his helmet coming off?

[Rhythmattic]

Actually 1080i is a native resolution. its Interlaced, so draws the Odd/even horizontal lines one after the other. As with 1080P . its display progressively... All horizontal lines at once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Just wanted to clear that up.

EDIT: Maybe off topic , but there is 3 Really interesting Debug Videos , Albeit recorded in 2007.

http://www.dailymotion.com/...
http://www.dailymotion.com/...
http://www.dailymotion.com/...

[pixelsword]

- The fire in the game looks better than in the trailer (just look how "CG" the fire looks in the trailer).

- The ISA looks pretty close; I'd have to wait until I see hair in the game for my final decision in reference to the trailer: so for now, the trailer is SLIGHTLY better because I wanna see hairdos like Old Snake.

- The Helghast look MUCH better in-game.

- The ground looks about even, with some trade-offs.

- The sky looks MUCH better than the trailer.

- The atmosphere is better in-game.

- From what I seen, smoke looks better in the trailer.

- The particle effects look much better in-game.

- The tech shown in game looks much better than what they shown in the trailer.

- Some animations from what I've seen looks more organic and "better" in the trailer, but the deaths look great to the point of "groundbreaking" in the game.

[TheExecutive]

The poly count? No.

The overall lighting, effects and feel? By miles...

Its kind of a wash for me, which is amazing in itself but yeah this game is going to blow socks off when it comes out.

[Saint Sony]

Saying YES is like saying that 360 is better console. Lies obviously.

[Shadow Flare]

Box fanboys and the gaming media thought the actual game couldn't even come close to the trailer. They thought games couldn't look like that this gen. So remember that. (Well, they won't look like that on the 360). Prove me wrong

[geda]

TheExecutive nailed it

[Blademask]

No one can argue this.

All THEY can do now is point out that its not pre-rendered CGI.

I'll take the most advanced beautiful looking console game which is impossible on any other console but the PS3(tm), over a render any day.

[Kotaku_Succs]

no doubt there

[Piece Of Spooge 3]

Nasim....get a fvcking life

This site is so sad

[silverchode]

the irony

[Xwow2008]

Yes,like the lightning.

[Carbide7]

By a mile

[RPG Guy]

and a half

[ultimolu]

Yes.
...It killed meh ded.

[Kotaku_Succs]

KZ2 has killed trash box 360

u saw 5/5 from OPM US . didnt u

[she00win99]

i think in presentation but if you really take a closer look, not really..

[FunAndGun]

does it really matter at this point?

[360 man]

are u people insane

killzone 2 does not look as good as the 2005 cgi

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

[Unicron]

You said in the open zone that anyone who says "yes" has Sony goggles on.

I have to ask, then, what your opinion is of Epic always falling drastically short of their incredibly fluffed up, post processed, crazy resolution, 16xAA'ed bullshots used for showing of their Unreal 3 engine titles like Gears of War and Unreal Tournament? Which is the greater "crime" against gamers?

As for Killzone, I'd say many aspects are damn close. It's an impressive visual feat to be sure, and I'm anxious to get more play time with it.

[lil Titan]

is that a question? 360 man are you insane? looking at that vid you linked it looked like sh!t http://www.gametrailers.com... here's a better one hope that jeep made it in the game "360" man lol go back to halo 2.5

[RememberThe357]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[NaiNaiNai]

the thing is that KZ2 does look amazing best graphic game of this gen, but it still doesnt match the CGI that was made in 05. look at the flame effects. you can also see the textures in the CGI are more detailed then the ingame, on the 08 beta. truth be told its suposed to its a CGI trailer,
-nai-

[NaiNaiNai]

i guess according to the negatives im gettings. Kz2 isnt the best looking game on consoles. so what is. compairing MGS4 which is the "best" looking game currently, so i guess KZ2 doesnt look good. cause if your saying the CGI doesnt look better you are sadly mistaken and just being fanboys.
-nai-

[Strelnikov]

There is no way in hell the PS3 could render the CGI trailer at 60 frames per second, not even 10. It would be closer to 10 seconds per frame.

TECHNICALLY, the CGI trailer looks better, and you'll realize that once you take a closer look at particle effects and model/texture resolution. AESTHETICALLY, the actual game may look better, as they've developed a very distinct art style that just happens to look really friggin cool.

[madpuppy]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

[NaiNaiNai]

i was giving the game major props, and since im a "xbot" then you should be glad im doing it, the game looks amazing, but to you its just another "exclusive" you want say is the best, as long as someone disagrees withyou. i say its good, i get negatives, i say its bad i get negatives. you guys are really sad.
-nai-

[Graphics Whore]

You guy's have no idea how carefully I've studied the graphics and since I AM in the field, All I can say it's pretty damn close.

[ravinash]

To me its all about how good the game play is along with the graphics.
I haven't had my hands on it yet, but I'm looking forward to this one.
And the fact that everyone has to argue about if it is better than the original render goes to show that they have gotten it close enough that it really does not matter.

The game looks great, and I hope to see lots of particles and bits flying everywhere when I'm in an actual fight, thats what I'm hoping for. And so far this is the nearest that any game has gotten to delivering this. fingers crossed.

[jack who]

lol@the ppl who will say yes

[360 man]

they are crazy in it

they obviously have sony goggles on

[Magic_The_Celt]

Yeah? and you two obviously have fanboy goggles on

because no matter what you would NEVER say, wait.. hold on yes it actualy has, im still not getting it, i think the PS3 is still a poor console but Killzone 2 has suprassed the original E3 trailer

and that my friends, is why your not even worth bothering with :)

[ICUP]

Weather it yes or no

one thing for sure KZ2 make gears of war 2 like a Wii game.

[Wii win]

SGT Nathan Fail here again, Magic and ICUP, you're both idiotic fanboys. Gears 2 was fun, no doubt about it. Now shut up and enjoy your games, and quit replying to these guys, including pp. All you're doing is adding fuel to the already huge fire.

This comment was made by N4360G: " LOL He's a Nintendo Wii fanboy,ignore him.His opinion doesn't matter. "

It's sad, because someone likes the wii, their opinion suddenly doesn't matter.

[AbdullaMTR]

huahuahuahua moron

by the way why you care really?
go enjoy Red Faction in 2009 that Maxes out your sh!tty console.

[Kotaku_Succs]

arent u even ahsamed to use X360 in ur tag

that shi88t console called TRASH BOX 360 is fit just for repair shops

KZ2 makes anything on that suck box look like pile poo and sheetbopx 360 owners are still talking

[Graphics Whore]

Haha, I guess only the more intelligent can appreciate how good killzone 2 looks.

[TheOutsider]

Just look at 360man's icon! that's the face x-boys will have when they see the final game play of killzone 2! but mommy and daddy can't afford it 4 them so they have to just watch gameplay on youtube! ha ha ha enjoy playing your game of the year "blowjob-kazooie"! ha ha!

[PirateThom]

Mostly, yes. There's one or two things, but it's pretty damn close. Closer than anything else has come to CGI quality.

[baodeus]

then it has not surpassing it because it came close. But why the hell are we even talking about graphic in games because it doesn't make the game. What about content and gameplay? I would rather focus on those than graphics. God, i hate it when people just keep talking about graphic all the time. IT IS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR FOR A GOOD GAME.

[OuterHaven]

In some aspects no but in many other parts it has.

[Xwow2008]

with u.

[SGT Nathan Fail]

In my honest opinion, no, it doesn't. But I shall be damned if it does not come really really close. No other FPS game can top the visuals of this Playstation 3 exclusive. Not now at least. Enjoy it PS3 owners, this is one game you guys should be proud to have on your system.

[edwineverready]

Thanks for seeing this is a great game.

[SGT Nathan Fail]

You're welcome, and that stuff I said about the PS3 earlier? Didn't mean a word of it. And my avatar? I actually like the Resistance series, I just chose to make fun of it cause it seems to be one that the PS3 fanboys like the most and will therefore bash anyone who says anything negative about it. Look back on my comments and look at your replies fanboys, and see just how crazy you really are. When someone like the way I was acting does come along and says that crap, be better than them, IGNORE AND PLAY YOUR GAMES.

[edwineverready]

But i did not like res2 bought it played it sold it. i played the first on for months and i mean months.

[Bigrhyno]

I'm not a really good judge on graphics comparisons, so I can't really say. I can say that Guerrilla has impressed me either way.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Yes, i truelly think it does

there was a comparison video not long ago, E3 trailer against the BETA, yeah the BETA and the BETA had better sharper visuals and much much deeper colours

[Dr_Nefarious]

I remember the comparison. Yes, it did put the 2005 trailer to shame. Well not really to shame, but it did look better. Contrary to what the article says it also had better textures, hence the sharper visuals.

In all honesty I still don't think the game is a day one buy for me. Something about this game I just can't put my finger on yet.

[Araceae]

I some respects yes and in others no, but the fact that it is even remotely close is a testament to the excellent work of Guerrilla Games. To think we are getting this close to cgi in only the early stages of the PS3’s third year is amazing. I know most people are all about textures, but to me I think the animations in K2 are the most impressive thing (and I also really like the art direction as well).

[Wile]

Very impressed how close they've gotten. Can't wait for February!

[Fowack]

but people insist on disagreeing with you. It amazes me how blind people can be. The CGI looks better in every aspect and all this talk about it not looking better is foolish. Lets just wait for the game and try not to over hype it. We've embarrassed ourselves enough in the past by throwing our faith towards games like haze and we weren't rewarded. If this game turns out to be as good as we all hope There will be no need for words nor will there be any that need to be said.

[Wile]

Hey not everyone likes my opinion and I don't expect them to. The real problem is when people try to force their opinions on others or wave them around like their absolute facts. The public crucification of people displaying independent thought on this site is appalling.

[Fruit Loops]

Just take off your goggles for a minute and join us in reality, or this thread.

[Halochampian]

Does it look good? yes... very good.

Does it surpass? NO.

It's as simple as that. In some ways it looks better, but overall, no.

[Beg For Mercy]

think the bots are ready to start waving the white flag LOL

[SGT Nathan Fail]

^^^^ Stupid fanbrat.

EDIT @ Beg For Mercy: Glad to see you evolve from "fanboy/girl" to "Gamer". All fankiddes in general suck. Be better than them. It's ok to say something along the lines of "I tried halo 3 before, seemed cool, but not my type of game sadly." But stuff like "Pssh! GAYLO 3 sucks!" is just plain stupid. Not everyone likes the same thing, so if you talk to someone and they say they don't like the PS3 or they don't like uncharted, just hold your tongue and respect their opinion, we are all entitled to one after all.

[Megaton]

Some of it looks better, but other parts not so much. Looks pretty damn impressive either way, and if the beta was any indication, it's gonna be really fun too.

[jkhan]

Has it surpassed, well in some cases yes, in some cases no.
The fire is better in the current build. The effects are way beyond anything. The animation is great. The facial expression etc. all look great.
I think even if it didn't totally reached that cgi trailer frame by frame, it does shows how good the game looks as it came really really closer, closer then most people ever thought it would.
Apart from that people comparing a console game to a cgi video, thats an achievement in itself.

[solsub]

In some ways yes and in other ways no. Impressive nonetheless.

[Panthers]

Its a tough call, but it sure as hell beats any other console game out there!

[TheOutsider]

couldn't agree more! And go panthers 2009 super bowl champs!!

[Beg For Mercy]

your right nathan i liked resistance 2 a lot by the way ill stop acting like a fanboy, it just feels good to know that killzone 2 is not the failure all xbox fans wanted it to be so badly

[PSWii60 Fanboy]

Cmon fanboys, it obviously hasn't surpassed that trailer. But, its came damn close, almost as if one of two more levels of polish could recreate that trailer. Guerilla Games has done an amazing job, and fanboy or not, you can't deny the beauty of this game.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Hell yes it is.

I looked at that so called E3 2005 footage again.

It sucked, the only thing nice about it was the details. Even those weren't too awesome.

Killzone 2 actually has some lighting now.

Only thing that is not as good is the character models (how they move) Imo it's a little stiffer, but it certainly surpassed it.

Edit:

Fire is more detailed (when soldiers are on fire in the new code)

Facial features are much better in the 2005 footage.

The smoke is much better.

And explosions have more smoke. That's all I see so far.

[Halochampian]

The fire in the cgi trailer is the biggest thing that stands out. Especially when they are on fire.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

HaloChampian:

Really? I thought that fire looked terrible.

To me, it looks like someone took a marker and tried to color fire onto them.

[Halochampian]

... are you sure. Because the fire in the cgi actually looked like fire, not "video game fire."

[PlayStation360]

I must say no and yes.

It seems the art direction changed somewhat. And the tone was darkened. I, however, really liked the facial animation and the fluid movements in "E305".

Did K2 completely surpass E305? My opinion, no. Did K2 surpass E305 in certain aspects? Absolutely. Will the PS3 make a game that will surpass E305 in the near future? Guaranteed.

But despite anyones opinion on this comparison. I have to add. It's something really special about a game when you can compare the graphic's quality to a CGI trailer. This game will be part of my library first day. Preferably in Special/Limited Edition form. :)

[Unicron]

Very well said, and I agree with you.

[meepmoopmeep]

yes, very well said and i also agree

now give me a CE/LE Helghast figure dammit!

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Yes, art direction has definitely changed.

Much grittier darker tone now.

[ASTAROTH]

Aparently the games delivers...

Yeah! Its the Official Playstation Magazine, but they gave Warkawk a 6/10, They gave Uncharted an 8/10, Lair a 5/10 and Haze an 5/10. So for me theiy are not as biased as some people may think. For me Uncharted deserved at least a 9...

Ohh BTW Killzone 2 gets a perfect 5/5 (10/10 for the morons)

and so did SF4!!!!

KILLZONE 2 FTW!!
http://www.ps3forums.com/sh...

[celldomceen1]

They have gotten so close that at this point it really doesnt matter.

[QuackPot]

So close but not quite there.

The facials, animation, explosions, rocket trails still need improvement. And the explosions - which are truly awesome in the trailer - can be easily copied/achieved. Spectacular explosions and rocket trailers would make KZ2 such a rewarding experience just in themselves.

But the thing is, GG could have actually achieved everything scene for scene for the game.

Fck, GG would have made a masterpiece if they created the exact same level - ingame - as they had shown in the TARGET trailer of 2005. I don't think it's ever been done. Oh, well. Water under the bridge.

[celldomceen1]

I love it when we all get along.....(tear).

[resistance100]

Well this happend Last generation as well (however not to the same scale)

Once both consoles get cheaper, all the actual gamers end up getting the one they don't have already.

Its only during a console's first few years where there really is that 'fanboy war' because mainly most people can only afford to get 1.

[trancefreak]

Doesnt matter, Killzone 2 is 2nd to crysis and we know which is on the pc.

[Wii win]

killzo- I mean crysis, Crysis! >.< forgive me, they both just look so damn awesome. ;_; 360 has some cool games too, can't wait for alan wake and halo wars.

[Sangria]

Was it CGI at E3 2005? (that's not a sarcasm, it's just that i can't make the difference)

[HDgamer]

The colors are darker and the models look better. I don't think it was a CGI trailer at all. Over the years it has been proven.

[QuackPot]

The 2005 trailer was a......trailer.....in particular, a TARGET trailer.

Anyone with commonsense would have known it was all CGI trailer. I idiot reporter confused Jacks comments about a DEMO of Resistance:Fall on man that was shown before hand with a question about the Killzone 2 trailer.

Again, anyone with commonsense....

There is absolutely no controversy with the Kz2 target trailer.

[Sully]

The bots are in damage control after the 5 out of 5 from OPM.

[poindat]

Surpassed? No. I don't expect CGI quality games for a long time. But Killzone 2 is damn impressive, no doubt. It certainly is (or will be when it is released!) one of, if not the best looking games out there.

[PS360PCROCKS]

No. and I want EXACTLY 37 disagrees! Come on guys... j/k On a side note, yeah no I dunno about surpassed but is most certainly has impressed the hell out of me, it's close to say the least.

[Boty]

has surpassed the 2005 E3 trailer, but...
what about gameplay?

If gameplay is a success then he have a game that has hit one hell of a homer out of this large park.

[ForROME]

i say its about 85-90% close, but the rocket and car etc are to fluid and rounded

[IzKyD1331]

Just look at these particle effects:
http://i38.tinypic.com/346p...

[natwitgudvib]

those particles are crazy!!!!!

[xlg]

Ja ja ja ja ja Comparing KZ2 cgi vs KZ2 Game with PS3 Fans eyes... lol are you guys serious? Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja lol!!!!!!!! CGI looks like 50% better in everything. http://www.gametrailers.com... the game looks good but come on you went too far.

[milesd6]

In a lot of ways, the actual game is better, but it hasn't surpassed the cgi trailer.

[xlg]

"In a lot of ways, the actual game is better, but it hasn't surpassed the cgi trailer"

Like what?

mmm... YUP! in the gameplay cause this one you can play it. lol

[milesd6]

The physics, animation, detail, and gameplay are better in the cgi trailer. How can actual gameplay on an rsx gpu be better than cgi. Like I said, there are things that the game has that the cgi trailer doesn't have, but that doesn't mean that kz2 has surpassed the cgi trailer. You have to imagine a full game built with the cgi graphics. It would rape the actual kz2. Nobody ever said that the cgi trailer looked like a generic shooter when they thought it was gameplay. Don't think that I don't love the killzone series, because I do. I played the crap out of killzone 1. The cgi trailer looked like it was being played with a keyboard and mouse. I originally thought the game was going to be on the pc and use directx 10, because that's how good it looked.

[Rockxy]

Not.Even.Close. This game looks too low budget for me. I'll be getting RE5 and I'll be renting this.

[solideagle1]

"Were there any pieces of music or sound design that you had to leave out?

Mario Lavin: In fact we used everything. The length of the game is around 11 hours. So for the pieces of work that didn’t fit in certain areas, they were put on the back burner and used at a later date. For instance, a nonessential character’s theme had been scored, but gave too much importance to that person. The piece didn’t fit, but was suitable for a dramatic scene further on in the story with the captain’s airship transport. It had been written by Joris six months prior, and was just one example where we recycled previously conceived bar sections."

the length of killzone is 11 hours.
thanks

[resistance100]

11 hours os bloody good considering the length of the average shooter now a days (COD:WAW im looking at you)

[KidMakeshift]

But the real question is "does Killzone offer something new" and so far it has proven to be just another FPS with nice graphics and bland environments just like the first Killzone.

I think there's a graphic standard for this generation, but what I want to see is innovation or at least something new and intriguing from the FPS genre. Mirror's Edge had a good concept but poor execution just like Breakdown. Dice played it extremely safe and it shows. I'd like to see some real risk taken by developers and their publishers. I wish the majority of gamers felt the same way.

[bmatthews]

"oh what does KZ2 bring to the table?"

why can't you get it into your head that killzone 2 does what every other successful FPS does, and excels in them, what about the FPS cover mechanic and dynamic changing online game modes?

lastly, what did COD4 or Halo bring to FPS that is unique, absolutely nothing. nothing.

I don't see why killzone 2 has to give you the moon and stars for it to be considered a great game, it does everything it should perfectly,

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

all expectations as far as graphics go, from gamers!... along with Heavy Rain!

This game IS doing good and bad for me though. Sure it'll be the 1st PS3 game to truely blow all console games out of the water. Sure KZ2 will set a new standard of expectations in the graphics department.

Problem is for me and other few fellow PS3 gamers I know, agree... this WILL by far raise the expectations of Sonys exclusives even higher... to match the same quality care of KZ2. There lyes the problem with the release of KZ2. Yes it will overshadow ANYTHING 360 can do, but Sony can't afford for KZ2 to be in a different playing field than its other exclusives. This kind of quality needs to be spred to other developers, so all the games can grow and mature together, to show consumers exactly why PS3 is the better buy than 360 on the GAME front (no blu-ray jibber jabber in here). Sony needs to prove ON THE GAME SIDE, now. Why the system costs more than 360. To show that the tech in the PS3 can produce games like KZ2/Heavy Rain is worth to pay more for the system. Problem is, it's going to take more than these 2 graphically amazing games... to truely prove it's worthy!. I already own my 60gig... but am not EASILY impressed by 2 titles alone. I WANT/NEED to see Sony pushing this kind of quality out of all their exclusives, especially when I can only rely on quality mainly only coming from their exclusives anyways!

[resistance100]

I'm sure sony will share out the Killzone 2 graphics engine to all 1st party studio's, that way it will help to ensure that 1st party games look great

[QuackPot]

Will take things to a new level. and if they make sequel 4 near the end of the Ps3 cycle, then that will be unbelievable.

Look at what Santa Monica Studios achieved with the GoW on the Ps2. Amazing for a 32 Mb RAM, 300 MHz CPU hardware with no harddrive. In the words of the old Helghast...."Impressive&q uot;

[prof16440]

A big no i would say guerilla achieved about 90% of what they showed in that trailer, but they have not achieved that level of detail and chaos

[Strife Lives]

The game engine running Killzone 2 in other 1st party games too.maybe even to 3rd party devs making exclusives.this is war. .and Im glad I have both a 360 and PS3,that FINALLY we start seeing Sony bringing the big guns.I loved the Dreamcast,but dammit the PS2 had a game library one could just call Beautiful.I want the same for the PS3.

[madpuppy]

there is so much discussion about how good/not good it looks is really telling to how good a job GG did with the game visuals.

[ballsofsteel]

there are alot of little things here and there in the trailer that are better however there is alot in KZ2 the blows the trailer out of the water. the death animations and lighting are my 2 favorite parts of the graphics. i luv me the hit response and the lighting is really amazing and very dynamic

[nix]

all that matters is they came close! really close and probably surpassed in some areas.

anyone who says the game doesn't look good is a fool.

happy gaming everyone!

[C_SoL]

u don't have to agree with me but its the best looking game ive ever seen on a console. Any xbox 360 or ps3 fanboy can agree.

But straight up u can't be bull sh*ting on yourself-ves because you know that 2005 trailer looks way better then the 2007 trailer.

That's all PS4 homie, i hope. Don't trip.

iUsedToLoveHer-Common Sense

[mll09]

WTF, why do you bring Crysis into this? we weren't comparing it at this time ffs.

A tried Halo 3, and to be honest the campaign and online were average, but I liked it because of all the user-generated content. That was it.

Killzone 2 atm is slighty, just ever so SLIGHTLY below the CGI trailer.

Which is nothing to be ashamed of believe me.

[mastiffchild]

I honestly feel that in some ways the gameplay does surpass the 2005 trailer but not overall. The fact they've got so close in many areas(and easily beat it in both lighting and effects)is simply incredible and nobody at the time gave them a hope in hell of getting so close.
That we can compare the two at all speaks volumes about GG's efforts on the game. Looks amazing, and from the short go I had on the beta, plays amazingly well too. I can't wait to see the single player for myself and know that I'll lose lots of time to the multiplayer as well. It isn't just about innovation when you get something as polished and well balanced as this there's a big argument for just being the best you can be-the realism of the lighting and interactions blew me away and makes KZ2 feel really fresh to play.

[shawnsl65]

So i heard you can use keyboard and mouse for this game on the killzone forum. Be cool if you can use Guncon3 with it.

[OldParr]

OH GOD NO!!! fanboy glasses for the win!!!

[OldParr]

are u guys like 13 or 14 or something??? geez

[Paperfone]

It has and I expect nothing less because it has been 3 and a half f*cking years!!!!

[fossilfern]

oh aye

[gameraxis]

comparing it to the 07 build, are u all morons?? it looks ten times better now in 09 than it did in 07... as for which is better i won't comment cause either way i'll get disagrees

[Narutone66]

the E3 2005 CGI trailer was a target render, which means that it is what they are aiming for in regards to the graphics. It may not be exactly the same as the rendering engine can change anytime to improve the game play. It came pretty close to the E3 2005 trailer, in my opinion. It surpassed it in some elements. Hopefully, they will tweaked it some more for an even more enjoyable SP campaign.

[pshizle]

i think it does surpass it and in some areas no

[Blackcanary]

Said "18 - The fact that
there is so much discussion about how good/not good it looks is really telling to how good a job GG did with the game visuals. "

You are very true. To the point that there is so much hype about it they've done a very good job at trying to match it you have to look very close to see the difference. GG have done very well haven't see a game yet with blood that looks that real.

[SAiOSiN]

The lighting was greatly improved on, but it didn't match it. It came pretty damn close though...

[Bazookajoe_83]

I would say that it looks better now than in the E3 05 trailer. But what the 05 trailer had was alot of things going on around that was really impressive. Lets just hope they have gotten that part in the final build.

[Jeremy Gerard]

You PS3 lovers are all going to say this is the best looking game man has ever seen, but you kids say that about every new PS3 game that launches.

In reality this game looks no better than MGS4, Bioshock, or COD4.
You guys are all delusional, even if im wrong the difference is not "leaps ahead of anything on 360" like I read one idiot say.

You PS3 people have just lost all credibility, it really is sad.

Go to gametrailers.com and do side by side of KZ2 and MGS4, or even COD4, not a huge difference here, wake up people.

[resistance100]

"You PS3 lovers are all going to say this is the best looking game man has ever seen, but you kids say that about every new PS3 game that launches"

In terms of exclusives, its quite often the case. Just look at Heavenly Sword then Uncharted then Metal Gear Solid 4 and now Killzone 2. They are all games you could argue are the best looking console games at the time they are released

[devilhunterx]

Who else here was in the Multiplayer beta?

[Chubear]

and this was a game that the haters porclaimed couldn't hope to come close to the 2005 trailer 'till PS4 if not the PS5 and yet, this is being done in the second year of the PS3.

Imagine years 5,6&7. It's going to be bloody for PS3 gaming, hold on to your butt cheeks.

[ezwaffles]

I would hope any game 4 years in the making would surpass it's 2005 E3 trailer, even if the trailer was a complete fabrication.

[MUNKYPOO]

cant wait till i can snipe all you fools!

http://i34.tinypic.com/mbts...

[AriesFury]

It should, with 3 years to get things right the game should surpass any ones expectations even those at MS.

[Matpan]

It looks really really awsome. But no, it doesn´t look better than the 2005 E3 trailer.

This must be the third or fourth article about this...

Just play the game once it is released, who cares about an almost four year old trailer? Sure, Guerilla built some hype with it, but the game will hold up perfectly to that I am sure.

[Daz]

i dont think it does but thats my opinion. but still a great looking game.

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[Gambit07]

Comparing a CGI video to actual gameplay goes to show just how far videogames have come along, also the whole CGI trailer controversy has really benefited the game, it gave it tons of coverage, so releasing it was a stroke of genius from Sony.

[Rhoic]

The poly count and overall fluidity of the movement? No.

Particle effects, lighting, textures and overall feel? Hell yes.

cant wait to get this game.

[baodeus]

Does the game look impressive: Yes
Does the game look better than anything else currently: Yes
Does it surpass the CGI trailer: NO

Why are we repeating the same mistake when we hype bouncer for PS2 as pinnacle of graphic (CGI) quality, when it turns out that it is not. But doesn't really matter when it is not CGI quality? I don't see PS2 dominating the game industry because of its graphics.