Leo Laporte gets His Final Red Ring of Death (RRoD)

Tech TV personality Leo Laporte, most famously known as co-host of The Screen Savers, posted today on his personal blog that he has had it with his Xbox 360; he received his second "and final" red ring of death today. It's really sad that Microsoft made a major mistake and created a launch product that has suffered from so many technical malfunctions, causing people like Mr. Laporte to miss out on a ton of great future 360 games.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

So who's gonna try and spin this one? Bladestar? POG/MART?
C'mon..i know you want to..

[Tmac]

It will be a collaborative effort.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

"...causing people like Mr. Laporte to miss out on a ton of great future 360 games."

http://i285.photobucket.com...

[UltimaEnder]

I'm confused, are you saying that there are not any games coming out in the future that are worthy of your time or just dogging me because he uses both his Xbox 360 and his Playstation 3?

[Harry190]

Who is the guy laughing in the gif?
A celebrity?

Edit: Not Leo Laporte, the guy in the gif that GhostofSparta posted.

[disrupt3r]

Dude from star trek?

[DudePV]

The Dude from Heroes! lol

[Aclay]

@harry190,

The guy laughing in the gif is George Takei from Star Trek.... he's the guy from Star Trek.... that got married to another guy this year just in case you haven't heard. LOL.

[sonarus]

But there is always Jasper:(

[Danja]

and before "Jasper" there was the "Falcon" ,

who wanna guess the next name for the 360 ?

[rosebowl23]

"It's really sad that Microsoft made a major mistake and created a launch product that has suffered from so many technical malfunctions, causing people like Mr. Laporte to miss out on a ton of great future 360 games."

i doubt hell miss them since 95% of 360 exclusives will be out on pc anyway. smart gamers chose pc/ps3 this gen

[Michael Jackson]

Falcon, Jasper.. What's next? The Xbox 360 Phoenix? Naaah... A phoenix can withstand the heat. Might as well just call it Xbox 360 Popeye's.

[mikeslemonade]

Bomp Bomp Bomp Another One Bites the Dust

[caladbolg777]

+Bubbles.
You hit the nail right on the head. PC+PS3=Win. I'm not missing out on "exclusives" nor multi-plats.

[JoySticksFTW]

2010 at the very earliest, or so I read.

But I don't have total confidence in any of those either.

Sure, they mat seem like a good fix today. But with games becoming more complex and resource-demanding... and features like the New Xbox Experience pushing the systems harder than ever before, any "fix" that MS comes up with seems to get nullified as their system has to fight harder to keep up with the new games and features.

You always see the RROD flare up again every time a resource-intensive game like Gears 2 comes out, no matter which motherboard is being used. The only true fix for RROD is a total redesign, unless MS mandates that devs stop pushing the 360 further which I don't see happening

[pixelsword]

FOOL ME TWICE, PS3.

[thereapersson]

I hope to GOD that doesn't happen...

Developers suddenly limited because MS doesn't want them to make a game that will cause the console to break. What kind of sh1t is that?

But yeah, you're right.

[ultimolu]

...*shakes head*
That is messed up.

[mega BIG time]

Who TF is Leo Laporte?? And why does anyone think i would care about his xbox frying?

[gonzopia]

Leo Laporte, for those who haven't been keeping up with the Internet in the last ten years, is the host of TWIT (This Week In Tech) and The Lab on TechTV. He previously hosted Call For Help, and was a part of the Screen Savers. He's one of the foremost voices on internet culture.

[herbaldoctor7]

im on my 4th xbox and really getting fed up with microsofts products.vista sucks also. ps3 has give me no problems,sony is quality

[Tawnokoi]

*stops playing his PC for a moment to check N4G*

*sees a guy with a RRoD for an avatar submitting anti-Microsoft article*

*briefly laments what's happened to N4G*

*shrugs*

*goes back to playing PC*

[Maxned]

This is what I just dont get about this site. HOW IS THIS NEWS? Some washed up tech old guy who got a RROD. Big deal. It happens. And yet it reaches 1050 degrees. THIS DOESNT BENEFIT US AT ALL.
If you are getting something out of this article then you are one, sick f***

[likedamaster]

""We would now like a moment of silence in dedication to Mr. Leo Laporte's Xbox 360, which died from the terrible Red Ring of Death (RRoD) syndrome at 11:34 on Saturday - December 06, 2008. . . . . . . moment over, back to Gears of War 2.""

LOL

[dantesparda]

Im on my 5th 360 (or is it the 6th? i dont even know anymore, i've lost count) and to the guy above me you'll care when you're on your 3rd, 4th, or higher replacement

[xwabbit]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

[TheColbertinator]

lol sucks for him.Even when I got the intercooler for my 360 it still got RROD.Maybe the Jasper models will finally end this business

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

Intercoolers will RROD your 360 even quicker.

[TheColbertinator]

Yeah ironic in a way.I was about to try the towel trick the first time I got it but Microsoft considers those tampered and doesn't repair them.

[PoSTedUP]

yes, intercoolers actually shoots dust into the mother board and will even bring down the ps3. very bad accessory. stay away.

[TheCagyDies]

Don't use the intercooler... My 2nd 360 RRoDed really fast with that. Now I am on my 3rd 360 which I haven't used any intercoolers on and it has lasted longer than my second 360 and is still going...

[EVOLVED]

problem fixed with jasper..... the end. I have 3 360s and not one problem. one has the jasper the other two have the falcon. not one problem yet. one is my bro's, the other is my girls and the third is mine. However I must say with the jasper it has got alot quieter compared to the falcon chip. can't hear it at all.

[EVOLVED]

the only thing he will use on the ps3 is the blue ray/.
that is the only reason it did half way decent. judgeing from it's sales since they dropped the price of stand alone blueray players I think M$ you have to amit has got this one in the bag.
choose american products.

[agmsd]

They might lower the price to a point you can use it for once and then throw it when you finish playing your game. if it didn't rrod in the middle of the game that is. I mean they should ship every game with a free xbox 360 so you might have enough spares...lol... sorry couldn't help my self...lol

[UltimateIdiot911]

When 360 is at the 100 or maybe even 120 price. I'm jumping. At that price, I wouldn't mind seeing it break so much but when I pay 200+ and pay other investment (Live), I would expect to see quality and reliability.
These days, you can get a PS2 roughly for 100 and a lot more reliable than the 360.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Like WHAT Future Games???????????? ;-D

+ 'intercooler'??? I'm glad PS3 owners don't have to worry about things like that!!! ;)

[earwax]

Wow......let's post more Mod because THIS IS NEWS! Funny how RROD and all the 360 STILL kicks the $hit out of the PS3

[morganfell]

At the above, you are obviously some snot nosed 7 year old that has no idea who Leo is or the fact he was hosting a really cool show before G4 came along and ruined Tech Tv by giving us that idiot flamer kevin p.

Besides, it is news. The high failure rate is the real story MS has spent a fortune trying to bury.

[Man_of_the_year]

So does this mean he is throwing it out rather than sending it in for a free repair since its under the 3 year warranty? I mean what do people do with their RROD consoles if they are not going to validate their warranty...thats like saying your not going to use your power of free speech. Why wouldn't you use your 3 year warranty if it didn't cost you anything and doesn't cost anything to send in?

I just don't get it.

[UltimaEnder]

I am curious as to the same thing, why not send it off; its free to be fixed!

[TheColbertinator]

@Man of the year

The 360 warranty expired back in November 21.

[Danja]

bcuz obviously it's gonna be a never ending cycle..

[dragonslayer91]

There are NO games good enough to put up with constant console shipping.
You'd have to be an idiot consumer/loyalist to continue to support this kinda thing. that warranty ain't worth doodoo to Leo or any other rational person but the xbox idiots sure seem to think so.

[GIJeff]

he's a really considerate person, and doesn't want to sell poop to someone else. Perhaps he's not like MS, and has a conscience. Or, more likely, he's really freaking mad and doesn't think it's worth the effort/time to take care of putting it back into its coffin/carrying case. Why doesn't MS "go green" and sell cloth coffins to cut down on the number of trees they kill sending millions of paper boxes to people? Dammit, I can do this all night.

[thereapersson]

He tries to hide it, but deep down inside, this news is eating him alive. There really is no possible way to spin this news or make it so you can paint MS in a good picture. The RRoD is un-excusable for MS, just as the disc read error was un-excusable for Sony.

Why would you be willing to excuse MS for a console fault that is so widespread and prevalent, even with a "free" warranty? Not to mention the fact that the only reason the extended warranty exists is because MS would rather enable that than take heat in a lawsuit, which they know they could have a chance at losing.

At least with Sony, the problem was within the 5 percent margin for error that most electronics are allowed.

[Man_of_the_year]

So i'm a Microsoft fanboy only because i ask a question? There was no spinning in my comment. It was a genuine question. Wow i sense the ignorance in thereapersson is strong. Must be a Sony Fanboy, trying to make a fact out of an opinion and spinning everything into something negative about MS and the 360. And i guess you should ask the 25+million owners why they bought the 360 that has such defultive hardware..tell ya what - get the 18+million Sony users who have non faulty console and ask the 25 + million 360 owners...i am sure with the extra 7 million 360 owners - one would be able to answer your question...being as ignorant as it was.

Simple question - what did he do with the console if not send it in for the free repair. thats still $300 that he spent, i am sure he would like to gain his money back somehow - and isn't the 3 year warranty up only for those that were models when first created and the refurbished ones? If my manufacturing date is January of 08 i am pretty sure i am covered with the warranty of RROD.

[Tony P]

"Why wouldn't you use the warranty?"

Your question was answered, I think sufficiently. But here goes me:

Your 360 is a great friend with great games. But something's wrong, you can tell.

Your 360 has cancer. Cancer called RROD.

Every time you power it on, it gets weaker. And eventually you have to send it in for treatment. But...there's no cure for cancer. It will happen again. But rather than suffer that heartbreak over and over, you might choose to stop extending its misery and let a good friend rest. And a new beginning with cancer-free PS3 or the (presumably) working Jasper model. It's ok. It would have wanted you to be happy.

[thewhoopimen]

All you xbox fanboys PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE.

Forget that. READ THIS QUOTE! "Second Red Ring of Death on my Xbox360. Definitely not heat this time - it's freezing. What junk.”

Did Laporte say it was RROD?????!?!!!

NO!!!!!!!

So guess what? NO EXTENDED WARRANTY!

[Man_of_the_year]

"All you xbox fanboys PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE.

Forget that. READ THIS QUOTE! "Second Red Ring of Death on my Xbox360. Definitely not heat this time - it's freezing. What junk.”

Did Laporte say it was RROD?????!?!!!"

Uhhh judging by the quote you used - Uhh ya he does say its the second RROD...are you that stupid..i mean really are you...i mean your answer is right there in the quote you used. Are all Sony Fanboys like yourself this blind and ignorant?

Here is another quote from the article - actually the second sentence in the opening paragraph..

"Tech TV personality Leo Laporte, most famously known as co-host of The Screen Savers, posted today on his personal blog that he has had it with his Xbox 360; he received his second "and final" red ring of death today."

thewhoopimen - your a dumba$$ please read the article - actually better yet - learn how to read.

[phosphor112]

I fixed my disc read error in literally 10 mins. Yay youtube. Oh yeah, it broke after...6.5 - 7 years of owning it.

Honestly RROD puts MS to shame, yet I don't see why people still give them their loyalty.

[Anon1974]

Thank god my 4th console held in there long enough to finish Gears 2 and Fable 2. I don't see anything else that I want to play on my 360 now. If my 4th dies, I won't be replacing it. What a nightmare the whole thing has been. I've been without my console for 4 months, so 10% of the 3 years I've had my 360 I haven't been able to play the product I purchased. I think I'll be sitting out MS's next gen as well.

[akaFullMetal]

it sucks that his 360 rrod, and that he will miss on some good games, but this is the kinda stuff that makes me not get a 360. Not til i actually hear that microsoft fixes it, or its a cheap as hell and i dont care that it breaks, then ill get one.

[agmsd]

Moved it to the open zone...

[caladbolg777]

Move yourself to the open zone. His post is not inflammatory in the least. Negative bubbs for being a jerk.

[tatotiburon]

and why he is going to miss future xbox 360 games? hellooo MR laporte, warranty anyone?? just send it and you will recive a newer console, so the big deal is?. Before anyone say it, if he bought a launch console from 2005 he said that he had a first RROD, so he got a new one from 2006 or 2007 and his warranty still good.

[PoSTedUP]

i wouldn't want to put up with that junk either. firstclassmailBox360?

[ultimolu]

Warranty expired?

Not everyone has the patience of a fool to keep sending in a broken product so it can break again.

I just hope the 360 I'm getting is stable.

[PoSTedUP]

i would wait till the jasper fully hits the market juuken.... until then you are just playing the MS lottery.

[disrupt3r]

haha

[sweetlewfor3]

Welcome to the dark side.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It will all be over soon enough...

[Itrguy001]

the dark side shall win this so called war that the light side have started. im just kiding im not a fanboi i just like to say stuff like that cause i like the PS3.

[Sami Frey]

Thats what the clerk at gamestop said to me when I traded in all my 360 games to buy ps3 games

[JackBNimble]

Haven't some peoples warranties run out?

It's been 3 years now since the launch of the 360.Or does M$ renew the warranty every time you send in your 360 for servicing?

[DJ]

Three years is not enough; it should be a lifetime warranty considering every 360 has a high risk of failure during its lifetime.

[Homicide]

Never heard of him.

[RememberThe357]

You never watched Tech TV. It got bought and now it's now known as G4.

[Itrguy001]

i never heard of hime either till i went on youtube and searched his name very useful

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Now he can play the good upcoming titles like White Knight Chronicles, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Afrika, War Devil, and Gran Turismo 5...as well as Alan Wake for PC. (I HAVE TO GET IT!!!)

[TheColbertinator]

The warranty is done guys.

If it gets RROD now and for the rest of the 360 cycle,tough luck because Microsoft is not repairing it.

[disrupt3r]

Yes they will, just for launch people they will have to pay to have it repaired instead of a freebie.

[outlawlife]

warranty is 3 years from your manufacture date

it isn't out for anyone but launch buyers at this point

[TheColbertinator]

Fine.Repair it,don't repair it,whatever.It will still get RROD because the launch models were poorly built

[UltimaEnder]

Yes the launch models were poorly built (as well as some of the ones manufactured right after launch) but for the most part the more recent units are not having the RRoD problems....check your facts Colbert!

[GIJeff]

"for the most part" is >50%. So you only have a 49% risk of disk damage or total meltdown.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Jasper models won't prevent you from RROD'ing. Give it a month, it'll kick in.

[Light Yagami]

PS2 had disc read errors. Did you droids forget about that? at least microsoft gave us a warranty.

[Aclay]

Yes, the PS2 had some disc drive problems, but it was not on a mass scale like the RROD, and I'm sure that the PS2 didn't have a 33% failure rate during a point in it's lifecycle like the 360 did. And yes I know that the 360's failure rate has come down since then, but it's still high compared to the PS3 and Wii failure rate.

I only had just ONE PS2 that had a disc drive problem. Since I had the problem while my PS2 was still under the 1 year warranty, I sent it to Sony and they fixed it for free. They sent me back my PS2 and I haven't had any issues with that same PS2 going on 6 YEARS now...however the same thing can't be said for 360's that get sent back from Microsoft. Other than that one particular incident, I have had no other issues with my PS2.

Xbox 360 fans need to stop using the whole "PS2 disc drive error" in order to combat to the RROD because both issues can hardly be compared. Microsoft supposedly released the 360 when they already knew of the 360's faults, and that's just unacceptable.

[PeptoBismol]

With comments like that, I'm surprised you have so many bubbles

and this site is called pro-sony?

yea right, you must have a lot of 360 minions bubbling you up

douche

[InMyOpinion]

Sony were better at hiding their problems. N4G has become an RROD archive were every incident gets reported.

[morganfell]

Dumb. And uninformed. The only reason MS coughed up a warranty is they were facing a mandatory recall ordered by the FTC. That isn't generosity or customer care, it's fiscal necessity and financial survival. MS had to be backed into the corner. Go back and check. They denied denied denied up until the last moment and even now they continue to deny. Be a sucker if you want.

[dragonslayer91]

Worst console reliability EVER!!!! JUNK!!!! Somebody with clout finally shun's the 360. Just the beginning...Jaspers will eventually fail too. Either the video cards or the dvd drives or the hdmi port or the d-pad or the ...whatever.

[tatotiburon]

OMG Mr. Laporte bought a PS3, the war is over, microsoft stocks down 86%, xbox live will shut down in january, major nelson now is working with Apple.

OMG!

*lame

[RememberThe357]

Your comment isn't?

[JackBNimble]

Sooner or later the warranty will be up for all xbox users, and then what?
How loyal will they be to M$ when they have to buy an new system just to play their games?

[baraka007]

If Steven Colbert says it, then it is a fact sir. There is no need to check it out.

[TheColbertinator]

My truthiness levels are unparalleled.

[Fanboy Slaughter]

Went through 3 of them myself (within 6 months time...one was sent back to me pre-RROD'd), so I can at least say I gave them more of a fighting chance than this guy did.

*goes back to playing Fallout 3*

[Harry Pothead]

who's Leo Laporte? As in i actually don't know who he is, and why is he so important?

[UltimaEnder]

He used to be the host of The Screen Savers and Call for Help (still airs in Canada I believe) and is a very respected member of the tech community. Not sure if I would say he is important but very influential to the hardcore gamer market, to say the least....

[outlawlife]

i believe he is also a radio host and on revision 3

used to write yearly tech almanacs and such, all around a real good dude

probably smarter than everyone here as well, I grew up watching leo and reading his website...he was blogging before the word blog existed

also a point of note is he occasionally comments on major nelson's twitter and vice versa, hes clearly on the fringe of the inner circle when it comes to xbox people so him coming out and publicly saying something negative is pretty big

although this story is misleading, leo didn't say this on his blog...you really have to fish around to find it, he mentions it on his twitter but the quote is from a different site entirely

[TheColbertinator]

Unbelievable how this went on for so long.After my PS2 broke down I didn't buy another one because I was not a slave to crappy manufacturing.I missed out on the PS2 games but I was not gonna bow down for Sony and their lack of consumer support.My 360 is currently in repair for the 2nd time and if it breaks down again,I'm not buying another.Even if I have to miss out on Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake,I will not be a slave,drone,and patsy for a company that cannot make a reliable console whichever it may be.Whichever company makes a lasting console for me gets my money because I respect reliability and trust.

[UltimaEnder]

On this argument, Mr. Colbert, I have to respectfully agree with what you're saying... .. ...

[UltimateIdiot911]

I'm wondering, did you get another PS2 or plan to get one again?
Slim is pretty reliable and is pretty much around 100 price range when on sale.

[TheColbertinator]

No I'm not getting another PS2 ever.I'm done.After it broke down,I just played my Xbox and Gamecube and I was fine.If my 360 dies right now,I would just keep gaming on my Wii,PC and PS3.

[dukadork]

and you consider yourself "not a slave to crappy manufacturing"?

lol

do you guys realize that sony got swarmed with class action lawsuits over the ****2%**** disc failure rate of the PS2 (which is considered a high failure rate in this industry)

the most conservative failure rates for the 360 are currently over 30% and could go as high as 60%.

it means that between 7 and 15 million 360 owners do qualify as
"slaves to crappy manufacturing"

wag of my finger!

[cyclindk]

Oh, it comes on multiple discs for 360...well just get up and swap them out every couple of hours... I actually enjoy swapping discs, it's more fun that way!

Oh, you got the RRoD, just send it in to Microsoft every time it happens as long as you're under warranty... isn't unreliability exciting, it's like you never know when your system is going to conk out on you, it's thrilling!

We have avatars now and paying for online play is enjoyable, not having a web browser is also useful, not to mention the lack of the ability to use any third party compatible hard drive... good times all around really!

[jav0918]

system that has crappy(apparently cant use the other word) games, with very little games with a metascore above 90% lets not forget about the argument that MGS4 and R2 are great (which they are because I have played both) and the never ending OMG Killzone 2 looks awesome lets hype it up just like every Ps3 game does and when it comes out hope it doesn't flop like over half of the other ps3 games.( i hope it doesn't, it could do so much) then talk to me about a system crapping out (in which for me the games and online service make up for =) ), oh and btw Ps3s crap out also. My best friends ps3 in which I played both MGS4 and R2 on, crapped out on him and he had to dish out 150 bucks isn't that sweet =D. I have not rrod since launch... Geez i have no life typing this at 3 am...

[cyclindk]

1) Playstation online has worked flawlessly for me since day one, the difference between this fact and whether or not your personal 360 has died is that whether PS online is "crappy" is not substantiated by evidence as with the 360's statistically derived 60 percent failure rate, just fan boy claims.

2) I enjoy the games, end of story; and I'm in the Killzone 2 beta which lives up to the hype so that's shot down.

3) Your friend's PS3 was one of the 2-4 percent of failing PS3s, of which ninety percent are not due to manufacturing/technical oversights, but rather assembly/shipping errors/damages. Sony designed the consoles to work right and continue working...

[dragonslayer91]

Silliest looking things I ever did see. How could a hardcore gaming system morph into something so childish. You don't even get the choice to not have the NXE update. Just plain embarassing for grownups to have to use these stupid Avatars when booting up their media/entertainment. Oh and Netflix is a bust too. Microsoft never had a vision for the system after the failure of HDDVD, so they went after Nintendo, their weakest competitor and copied their Miis hoping to counter PS HOME. FAIL!!! At least you are not forced to use the PS HOME interface though I think it is gonna kick butt when its all said and done.

[gamfreak]

Extend the warranty already M$......... Nobody is gonna save your @SS....

RROD FTW.

Edit: More and more BOTS realised the 360 and M$ can't be trusted.

[DJ]

Not to mention game developers.

[UltimaEnder]

Yep, I think it happens to a good percentage of 360 owners, especially ones that own early manufactured consoles and/or multiple systems......such as developers and game journalists!

[TheAverage360Fanboy]

tihs iz soooooooooooooooooo fake111111 such desparate move bai sony fanboyz to make ups tihs FAKE lie1111 rrod is FAKE
iz all 1 big consperacy made upby sony fanboz 360FTW11

[jav0918]

i play both systems without a problem its that people talk crap about one system when the other clearly has its downs and seriously thanks for reassuring me that the kz2 beta is living up to the hype I'm just gonna bash my friend more to get his ps3 back already even though he has no control over that. 360 has a failure with many great games ps3 costs too much with not so many great games their good games are great but a lot of the others aren't as good as they could have been. Put simple they are both great and if I could afford a Ps3 I would buy one but right now times are hard.

How is netflix a bust where are your facts to prove this? I have netflix and it's great I stream HD without a problem its a matter of connection speed. and so what if you need to take 2 minutes to make your avatar...after that you don't have to touch it again the NXE is a stupid argument you are not obligated to play with your avatar you make it and leave it alone.

[Horny]

jav, I have both consoles and PS3 has way better games than 360 imo, and I honestly dont give a damn about all this fanboy bs I just judge the games. Theres not one 360 game I would rate over 9. And yes Microsoft does hype and markets their games extremely well, thats why I think they get the high scores. If Gears 2 was on PS3 Im sure it would have received a 8 or 8.5 average.

[Lombax]

oh shi... >.< it RRoDied on me ...again. Guess I'll have to send it in. Oh shi... no more warranty.

@ 17.1

yeah because a 2% fail rate is just the same as a 33% fail rate...

FAIL <.<

As far as online goes... i can play online, with 59 other people at once, with no lag. But i bet those 5 on 5 matches are better because you have to pay 50 bucks a year to play a game you already paid for.

And the meta score thing... come on Resistance 2 got an 87% and Left for Dead got a 89%. Did I miss something? Left for Dead was a small chunk of Resistance's co-op with no classes, half the players and only 4 enemy types. and yet it received a higher score. Compared to Resistance 2 it should have gotten a 20%.

I never bought into the 360 Media Bias thing until I noticed this.

[Nogames08_09_360RROD]

What do you expect? They don't call it the Sh1tbox -360 for no reason. With only 2 games this year and only DLC next year the eXbox -360 is as good as dead.

I can imagine the Xbot lemmings jumping off buildings and commiting suicide because they have tears of jealousy at the awesome lineup of PS3 games and a future proof console.

[dragonslayer91]

@jav0918 -

Here we go again....
Pleeeease stop whining about the cost of a PS3. I paid $600 at launch for a constantly reliable, constantly upgradable, high quality piece of technology which is only getting better. Guess what I bought. I have only watched 1 bluray movie so far because I didn't buy it to watch hd movies, that was just a big plus. The online is free and it works flawlessly ALL THE TIME. I can download and view grownup things through the BROWSER that was included. It is completely WIRELESS for free. IT IS AWFULLY QUIET and Bluray games/movies don't get scratched when playing inside the ultra quiet slot drive. This thing is a top of the line LEXUS...and everybody can't afford a LEXUS. Get over it. Deliver faster pizzas and maybe one day you could afford a PS3.

[Bathyj]

You M$ defenders act like they sent you a brand new Xbox. No you get a refurbished piece of crap, which, sorry for stating the obvious, is a machine that already broke once on someone else. I know of a guy who bought a refurb from a shop and had to return it 4 times.

Thats why people give up. Who wants that drama for a couple good games a year because if you have all the consoles, thats all Xbox is to you.

[dirtrider]

first off when you send it in they send you back YOUR UNIT. now maybe in the first days they didn't but now and in the recent past they do. couple of good games per year? really. then i guess ps3 has no good games per year since most are multiplatform these days, and well as much as you a sony fanboy hate it we all know the 360 plays those multiplatform games better than ps3. id rather deal with an inconvenience if it occurs than WAIT for the games i wanna play like the ps3 camp has been doing for 2 years. oh hold on you're still waiting now AFTER 2 years. btw it's 3 years from the manufacture date on the back of the console, meaning mine is under warranty til march 2011. glad to see that the ps3 faitful THINK they know more about a console that they don't own, and give disagrees to those that do own the console and UNDERSTAND THE WARRANTY, while the ps3 fanboys type complete BS and get agrees.

[bigman7387]

Do you like games?

[dragonslayer91]

jav0918 said- How is netflix a bust where are your facts to prove this? I have netflix and it's great I stream HD without a problem its a matter of connection speed. and so what if you need to take 2 minutes to make your avatar...after that you don't have to touch it again the NXE is a stupid argument you are not obligated to play with your avatar you make it and leave it alone.

The Netflix debacle...lack of decent content and inconsistent picture quality for how much a month in addition to paying for XBL AND already paying for internet?...Oh it's a matter of connection speed...is it? Whats the point of the Avatars again? Who wants any of this lame stuff?? Take 2 minutes to make them Avatars and then leave them alone looking all sissyfied standing on one hip and what not? Not on my $400 console! No one is forcing that on me! I am through with kindergarden and I ain't goin back. The adults are on PSN when you are ready to play games for free without the 12 year olds teaching you new curse words. Casual gaming has taken over the 360 whether you like it or not.

[dirtrider]

seems to me your comment is nothing but your pure jealousy over the new xbox experience. oh well, you always have the option of WAITING til psn is actually as good as LIVE.....hmmm maybe when ps4 is released?

[doomsonyman]

i like the way they said "o000ooo moment over back to gears2" i had gears 2 for my 360 it was great but that soon faded when my 360 scratched it to hell. i just hope gears goes multiplatform so i don't have to deal with that monkey bolony

[dirtrider]

no offense but i think you are the monkey...you don't know how to position your 360 horizontally? because once you figure out how, a miracle happens....no more scratched disks! anyways sony fanboys have "fun" with this "news" and keep in mind, the ps3 is still a distant 3rd this generation! it can't beat a "defective" console! ouch that has to hurt.

[Lombax]

I like the way you say it cant beat a defective console, that's funny.

Let me brake it down 4 you...

XB360, after 3 years has sold 25 million. PS3after 2 years has sold 17 million. Catching on yet?

XB360 sells 8.3 million a year.
PS3 sells 8.5 million a year. And costs twice as much.

[xaviertooth]

and there goes the one-year full advantage for the 360... 360 owners will now slowly migrate to the only next-gen console.. 360s run with the PS2 is now ending.

[SprayandPreycom]

ya it sucks when you dont spend the extra 20 bucks for a 2 year warranty. he prob bought his on ebay refurbished ...

[Horny]

how much does it cost to fix after the warranty is up?

[bigman7387]

I think its around $150. I'm pretty sure both systems are, but it also depends on what exactly is wrong with the console.

[Spybreak]

Leo would just repair the damn thing himself wouldn't he?

[SprayandPreycom]

right around the price of a ps3 ...

[thereapersson]

For 199, you get a reliable console that you won't have to worry about whether or not you will be sending it in for repairs.

Oh, wait...

[stonecold3]

i own a ps3 and i brought it at launch mine was working fine until i put it on my hd 1080p and since the launch ive had no problem with mine at all i even own a dreamcast and ive had it for 10 years and still going to this day now about xbox 360 they had a chance to go in and try to win this war but after 3 rrod whats the point owning 1 if they arent covered after that expiry date finishes i thought a few times about 360 but i dont blame this guy wanting to get a ps3 at least its realiable and even my dreamcast is still working to this day i play my street fighter 3 and the marvel vs capcom series im mean if i had a 360 that could last that many years i would probaly of own 1 right now but rrod has put me off of ever owning one

[UltimateIdiot911]

I'm sorry but please use periods and commas. That's just one big blob of words.

[GlibGamer]

Wall of text hits for 55355 points of damage.

You die.

[bigman7387]

IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Another day, another SDF attempt, to bad it never works. (((PS3rd)))

[Jackthepwnsaur]

sorry Jason, but you cant spin this, especially when it comes from a Former G4TV(Sorry, Technically TechTv) member.

[killalot100]

maybe this would bring a end to my friends saying that the 360 doesnt break. they been through 3 360's and they blame them self's for there 360 getting rrod. i been through a lot of rrod's and i finally gave up on the 360 but they just blame me and i just tell them that i had a ps3 for a longer time and it hasnt broken on me yet. so many people still say rrod is fake and i hope this proves that its not a fanboy myth. i still get crap for not getting another 360

[animalia85]

I have a launch model and when it rrod on me I just took it to a game store in san diego and he replaced the heat sink, that's what is poorly made. that was two yrs ago and I have not had a problem since. I did not want to send it away to Microsoft and not be able to play for a month, it was $50 well spent and I would do it again because it is a good system with some faulty parts. only fanboys who don't have both would give up on any good system with great games.

[40cal]

That's funny because I was thinking that only a fanboy would put up with spending there money on and then continue to support a faulty piece of hardware.

[thereapersson]

Cnosidering most 360 titles are multiplatform, Mr. Laporte can still play them on the PS3, PLUS he gets access to the UNIQUE library of exclusives that the PS3 offers. Unique identity is something that the 360 is *still* lacking, despite being out for nearly 3 years.

Also, LOL @ that fanboy website, pleading with Mr. Laporte to not get a PS3. What a bunch of horse sh1te!

[tk]

As the 3 year warranty expires - and as the console RRoD, we might see more people moving over.

[Lombax]

The warranty ends when Sony's 2 year mark comes around. Which, if you know your history, could be very bad for the 360.

[ustayclassyn4g]

'It's really sad that Microsoft made a major mistake and created a launch product that has suffered from so many technical malfunctions, causing people like Mr. Laporte to miss out on a ton of great future 360 games.'

hell yes for propaganda/damage control

[reelife]

Why the hell did they wrote, "don't switch to the dark side"? What's so "dark" about the ps3, all the crazy killing maniacs is on the 360.

[cajuncandb]

the PS3 is black dude - Go Obama - NOT !!!

[7h3ultim8p00]

Ugh every thread here at N4G is like a bunch of Sony fanboys just jacking each other off.

You know what the Sony fanboys remind me of at N4G? They remind me of a bunch of miserable ugly girls that like to get together and gossip about how Britney Spears sucks, because they are too miserable to face reality. Enjoy if fanboys lol. Misery loves company.

[GlibGamer]

Open Zone is calling for you...

[Obama]

so you think Britney Spears is good? rofl

[7h3ultim8p00]

That's not the point idiot.

[cajuncandb]

He looks like the kind of idiot and somewhat gay fanboy who would choose a inferior console over a true next gen platform with the best online experience and best software sales best games best everything (except quality but hey thats what a warranty is for - get over it)

[arngrim229]

wat exclusive games r coming out for 360 in future??? halo wars........thats it lol

[Magic_The_Celt]

Good man. haha everybody is leaving the 360 these days

Hell iv seen xbots turn into droids on this site when his 360 RRoD for the final time.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Everyone is leaving but the 360 is still outselling the`PS3 from 100 to 500 thousand. So who from that very large number is leaving the 360?

[Magic_The_Celt]

^ huh? what you talking about, here in europe where i live, and the only region i care about the PS3 continues to dominate, and despite shipping a year after the 360 still has the most units sold by a few million margin. :D

look at that, i won.

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

thats why things liek the RROD is tolerable.

besides it never happening to me and my dustmachine 3

[GlibGamer]

I love it when people present opinion as fact.

[tk]

I have seem some weak comebacks... but yours must be near the top of the list...

[MGRogue2017]

But... Who the hell is this guy?

Should I even care? xD

[40cal]

Hey Leo way to not put up with this kind of unacceptable crap. I was also done after my launch 360 RROD'ed on me for a second time. I know that you will find that the PS3 really is a huge upgrade.

I still don't understand why so many people support such a $h!ty product. I guess some people just love taking it with no vaseline.

[rawd]

Welcome to the club, unfortunately he wasted his money on that defective POS. I always knew Leo was a smart man

[slackerr75]

as an xbox 360 fanboy, i am embarrassed of this, and im also embarrassed by the lack of effort put into the Gears of war 2 Mutiplayer....horrible.

[ReubenSala]

I deal with people just like Leo Laporte, except they are called "cellphone consumers" and damn they are anonying. I break my ass back and forth to take care of their issues the best I can but because they got a high bill because they talked on it too long or just found they were being charged for data usage because they foolishly went to the mobile web or GIN and then all of a sudden they just say "No, this isn't right, I'm going to another carrier, I'm gonna get the IPHONE!" thinking that all their problems are gonna be settled!

So forget Leo Laporte, and leave him in his crib.

[Tony P]

I don't see how that's anything like RROD. RROD isn't something perpetrated by the customer, but an built-in flaw. This isn't a matter of irresponsibility on the consumer's part at all.

[GlibGamer]

So because you dislike your job, that means Leo is a crybaby for not putting up with a malfunctioning console that broke through no fault of his own?

Logic escapes you.

[JHUX]

Well unfortunately the reality is, is that Microsoft doesn't bust their ass for there customers. As shown now and in the past.

Then this is a flaw that Microsoft caused, that the consumer has no control over.

You don't have to be a fanboy to recognize that.

[dukadork]

3rd season, same hilarious joke, lol
xbots: you're an entertaining buncha noobs

[jack who]

Leo Laporte's? who? slow news day?

[rawd]

Laporte is a well respected voice in the tech world. And you, not so much

[Jecht]

You know, even with someone so well known in the tech world, nothing will come of this. The 360 fanboys will still argue games over manufacturing, showing Microsoft that they can shove any kind of sh1t down their installed bases throat and get away with it, meaning that there is no incentive for them to improve their product in the future.

And the funny part is that these same fanboys will say to PS3 fans "At least we have games to play".....WHEN?!!!

Is it right to play console Russian Roulette every day?

[SSCOOLCHEA]

chooose american product ....I would if they made good products .

[Enigma_2099]

... I just remembered when G4 was a great channel...

[djroberts]

PS3 FTW again. It's just too bad this has to happen for people to give the PS3 a chance. They then learn that the PS3 is actually better in many ways.

[Jamaicangmr]

Why are people still talking about the 3 year warranty? It ended on November the 21st 2008. Meaning that unless your Xbox360 was purchased less than a year of it acting up you are not covered. So am gonna assume that Mr. Laporte has had his for over a year so the standard 1 year warranty has expired, which means he would have to now pay to have his RROD repaired. Now with that in mind i can understand why he's now given up on the Xbox360.

I've seen some arguments that each Xbox360 is covered for an individual 3 years which is just simply wrong.

I can't speak for anyone else nor would i even attempt to but if i had 2 PS3's fail on me with the same issue. Am sorry but am not gonna get a third.

[GWAVE]

Now that the warranty is done for the launch 360 owners, the clock is ticking for everyone else. Day after day, thousands of 360 owners will be without Microsoft's warranty. Month after month, a fresh batch of 360 gamers will be defenseless against the RRoD.

Before, 360 owners would say "Oh, but it's under warranty. Oh, but I'll just send it in for a free repair" as if that made the hardware failures acceptable. I wonder if 360 owners will change their tune once their all-powerful warranty expires.

[Big Frank]

I dont mind taking the risk that my console may die and take a week to return as long as im playing the best exclusives, using probably the best controller ever made, have full rumble support in all my games, have in-game music and using the best online service. Oh i also like the way xbox users get to play betas exclusively and that most multi plats are being designed on the 360 first, therefor leading to a better experience for us.

Oh and im a hardcore gamer and i have to say the standard of players on PSN sucks compared to live. When i play COD4 or COD:WOW on 360 i average about a 3:1 K/D ratio, on PSN you guys are so bad i average about a 5:1, it's not even enjoyable and thats me playing on a controller im not as familiar with. So people looking for a challenge in their online gaming should take into consideration that PS3 players tend to be below par. Im not dissing you all, its just a fact.

I also notice that there seems to be 10 sony fanboys to every one xbox fanboy on this site and you all have a lot of time on your hands to post comments all day. Maybe the xbox owners are spending their free time actually playing games instead of trying to tell the internet community how the PS3 will be great one day and about all these so called great games coming out that seem to take forever and dissapoint when their released and how you've been saying for years that PSN will overtake Live. I mean c'mon, for YEARS you have been waiting for a decent online service whereas us xbox players have been using the best since day one.

No-one on the internet cares what sony fanboys have to say because anyone with any intelligence will know your full of crap, so relax, log off N4g.com and go play some games instead of commenting on red rings stories that never seem to dissapear from the site.

[mastiffchild]

@BF you can't assume anyone cares about your thoughts on the relative skills of players on Live and PSN-it's mere opinion and won't upset anyone who has played on both and found a different discrepancy-in manners. I had 7 360's in 6 months(I really tried cos it was the only HD console at the time)let alone the two this guy had but if they wouldn't exchange at the store(stopped after one) I had to send to MS. You say a week?!??? Yeah, maybe if you live next door and can go round and crack the whip! Took mine an average of 15 days(from posting) so I found myself without a console half the damn time.

I don't dispute the quality of the 360(when well) or it's library of games(though all those I like come to PC anyway)and would still have one now alongside the PS/Wii/PC-but I can see the con of it all on MS behalf and the joke was on us eager gamers who bought them in good faith that they were fit for the real world. They weren't. They were badly designed, manufactured cheaply, no QA and all to reap devs with Sony deals over to them(as the only console of this gen out at the time)or going multi and we were the ones that paid for this venture-and still are in inconvenience. It's an arrogant way to treat your customers and I'm sometimes surprised by those prepared to call themselves 360 fanboys or stick up for MS over this. Now MS have got away with this what's to stop the others from doing it thinking us thick gamers will buy anything and then spit blood defending it?. We should have been united from the first on this one-it shows us in a really bad light esp the "I'm alright Jack" type of gamer.

[hadouken007]

i guess he's lyin to right 360 owners?

[romancer]

2 months ago my 360 developed the infamous red rings of death.
It was 2 years old at the time.
Microsoft was very efficient in arranging for a shipment back... and issued me a new console with a different serial number.
When I turned it on, expecting to hear the familiar old noise, I was surprised to hear virtually nothing...
then i thought, perhaps it needs a game disc inside to get the old fan going again... but it remained quiet.
It works perfectly (so far) and it makes no more sound than my PS3 and Wii.
(i am not referring to downloading a disc to the HD... but playing from disc.)

So i would say, have some patience when technology has some defects... it's no big deal...
people have defects, too... but at least with technology the defects can be fixed.

As i see it, I got the use of a 360 for two years, then got a free upgrade to an improved
console with another year's warranty, free of charge ... nothing to complain about there!

[pshizle]

again???

and who uses an inter cooler it brakes your 360

[bee2427]

i agree sony fanboys shouldnt care, but of course there are many immature gamers. However, gaming enthusiasts should care. Its old news and these stories are getting old, but it is news since the 360 is still popular and people should still let other gamers know that this is still happening... pretty pathetic

[Cherchez La Ghost]

I have the Nyko Intercooler EX on my Elite since day 1 of purchase. It's loud at start-up, but it The sound is drowend out by the 7.1 surround-sound, baby!

[likeaboss302]

I feel his pain. My launch 360 had one RRoD. My Elite had a RRoD and the first replacement from MS also RRoD. Now Elite replacement two is in the house and it's only a matter of time. My PS3 however is running strong but then again I barely play it. lol

[robotnik]

flopbox flopping again.

[ElementX]

All of your posts attack MS and 360. Don't you have anything better to do? I randomly read 5 of your comments and they're all anti-MS. Way to be a hater. If you're just going to attack MS and not offer anything worthwhile to the discussions, why not go play your PS3?

[Neo604]

RROD, please never go away.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Sorry for his pain. Oh well, mines work fine!

[Figboy]

when they come to the PC in a few short months anyway?

anyway, the Red Rings issue is RIDICULOUS.

people love to bring up the PS2 and it's disc read errors, but Sony had that worked out by the end of the PS2's FIRST YEAR on the market. the Xbox 360 is THREE YEARS OLD, and this issue is STILL occurring? WHY for the love of God, hasn't there been a widespread class action lawsuit filed against them yet?

this is YOUR money you're spending, but it's not even JUST the Red Rings that are causing 360's to die. my roommate's 360 died of a video output failure. he had to PAY to get it fixed, since it wasn't the Red Rings that killed his console.

NOBODY that pays that much money for their product should have to deal with the uncertainty of whether it will die on them or not.

when i used to turn on my NES, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Playstation 2, and now my PS3, i don't worry about if it's not going to function properly. i don't hold my breath when i press the power switch. my other consoles don't freak the f*ck out every time a big title comes out.

i'm serious 360 owners, you guys HAVE to do something to shake MS out of their apathy concerning the Red Rings (and the other issues).

i ended up buying my roommate's old 360 for $150 (they were still about $350 back then), and i barely play it for fear of it dying on me (the most me and my fiance play is Fable 2, but it's been a few weeks since i played it myself).

[NickIni]

Oh big deal. Hundreds of people are doing the same thing as him, a whole bunch of Xboxs died after the NXE.

[Ldubbz]

So Leo Whatshisname is now the barometer by which to judge the 360?
This whole thing is suspect b'cuz if its his 2nd 360, then its still under warranty...but it would make more sense to throw it away?

Just so people are clear about the warranty...

Three years after the date of PURCHASE; the warranty is then renewed for any repaired console.

MS also offers a 1-year warranty on refurbished consoles as well.

All info available on xbox.com

All of this garbage about there being no warranty for anyone anymore is bull.

[TyLaurinaitis]

Inconvenience is the main issue... The point of this article is that Leo thinks that Microsoft suffers from a lack of good quality in the production of the xbox. I can completely agree with his statement, it is crazy to release a product that has such a high rate of defectiveness. Yes, there is warranty but if i remember correctly that Microsoft extended the warranty after a couple years of complaints. Originally Microsoft stated that the xbox would only have a one year warranty. Honestly, that three years is pretty much Microsoft admitting that they have a very defective product. Even with the new releases of an upgraded xbox (such as falcon) the red rings are still prevalent. The red rings is an issue that should of been fixed after the first couple shipments of the xbox.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

im sick of hearing 360 owners saying, if ps3 has so many good games why arent you playing them. Well im not playing because im not at home right now, im at my girlfriends house and im addicted to see what happens next to the 360 and what you dumb 360 owners say next. Oh and also why are you kids on hear if you got your awesome godly of all games Gears of war. I thought that was awesome. Oh and i have a job and attend college

[smurfie4]

Well this guy doesn't seem to have the patience, and unconditional love of some people who have had to replace their 360 more than twice.

[Sergeant Osiris]

this is why I dont really argue this console war with xbots anymore, M$ is just a dumbass rich kid who doesn't know when to quit. Ultimately their own incompetence will force them out of the console business. Their software has been substandard and unreliable for years. since you can't specifically tell when it's OS failure it's much harder for people to act on it. The minute they dipped their greedy paws into the hardware market they got called on their shoddy production tactics by failing consoles on a scale never before seen. They are just embarrassing America.

[rivithed]

Only on #2? Hardcore gamers survive at least 5 RRODs!

[no-spin]

wow that is crazy love for your games!

[foreverflame]

This guy is old. lol this guy is not in the target demographic anymore. this guy is like 50 or something.

[animalia85]

when millions of people put up with a faulty system there must be a reason. I know it just kills you Sony fanboys. I am sick and tired of hearing about games on pc, your spending over $2000 to have slightly better graphics that are going to be put to shame by the next round of consoles congrats you are morons. you losers talk about live users like were all loud mouthed kids yet you wouldn't last one round with the average live player. yes psn is free but so is herpes free don't mean good.

[no-spin]

what a load of words without coherence. Millions have put up with the faulty console because gamers are the most easy demographic to manipulate. just go to game stop and watch how the employees talk to their customers. "Reserve, buy this, what games you like? x game is coming out next year reserve it, total is a $160 only, buy more!"

Gamers love their games, and as in every love relationship gamers are vulnerable to tolerate the unthinkable.

33% hardware failure?????? yeah try that on the cellphone, computers or TV department. you would go broke because no one would buy your product.

PSN vs Herpes?????? What!?!?! did you think this through?

The console is as faulty as it gets, and the great games are there, but when can you play on a broken console?

RROD broke my heart in the past, if it happens again it will be the end of a rough relationship with my xbox 360.

[yojoe26]

who's eyes have been opened. I cannot fathom giving a piece of junk hardware more than one chance, but about four of my xbox360 fans have given theirs at least three chances each. I scorn them daily and await their inevitable jump to quality with incredible gaming experiences. If I can just convince them that life goes on without Halo and Gears of War they will be onboard quicker than you can way "Red Ring of Death"...LOL

[gerardo5566]

the same happened to me i had two rrod and i had the hddvd player and they both when out on me!!! and i only had the hddvd player for 1 month and a couple of days but microsoft couldny do anything because it was 2 days too late...bullshit!!! but this is the best thing that happened to me because i got a ps3 and experienced a true quality next gen machine... the only good games the 360 had when i traded it in was call of duty 2,gears of war, and crackdown the rest of the games were garbage. even now ps3 has the best games in every category (exclusives)!!!!! best offroad racing game motor storm pacific rift, best first person shooter resistance 2,best platform ratchet and clank,best racing simulation gran turismo,best golf hot shots golf,best jrpg valkyria chronicles,best action game metal gear solid 4, and most innovative little big planet!!! now 360 fanboys name me games in each category that i mentioned for the 360 that are exclusive to the 360 that are as good as the games i mentioned?????none. and microsoft trys to copy ps3's games but cant suceed (singstar and buzz)vs(lips and scene it)pathetic!!!!! bottomline ps3 is the best machine with the best exclusives and the best future!!! 360 boys will really feel the pain in 2009 ( killzone 2,infamous,white knight chronicles,heavy rain,mag,god of war 3, the new ratchet and clank and the secret games they havent announced yet!!!) 360 is crap and the 360 fanboys can eat crap... because ps3 has the best games right now. and forget sales numbers we aint making the money were playing the games so forget about sales!!!

[animalia85]

who has 4 systems die on them after the third time it's your fault. get it fixed yourself or get mommy to pay for you. the only time my 360 had rrod was when my nephew left the dust cover on while playing ventilate your system and get the heatsink replaced.

[AbyssGravelord]

I think the VGA's come on this week is anyone else gonna watch 'em?

[SacT0wnF1n3st]

I'm right now on my 3rd 360. The premium one scratches discs like crazy and my elite got RROD. I'm on another elite and crossing my fingers.

[Lykon]

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

MS are so arrogant and unpleasant this is another little chip away at the foundations of thier corrupt empire one day it will come crashing down in total failure and shame. Sony and Linux are the future winners.

[animalia85]

hell yeah i'm gonna watch it, the fact that we have a VGA type show makes me happy. videogames are starting to take over the world and it's about time.

[Big Frank]

It's pathetic how many of you sony fanboys are posting comments such as "im on my 5th xbox now" and "i've had red rings 139 times". The extent of the problem is nowhere near as bad as you are all lying about. I bet half the people on this board who posted these comments dont even own an Xbox. What are you trying to achieve? Pathetic.

Ask yourselves the question why are so many people standing by Xbox even with it's known and now almost entirely fixed hardware problems???

And dont talk sony up as if its all high and mighty. I, like a lot of other PS2 owners, including yourselves, were told tough luck by sony when your drives failed. I had to pay for another sony console and never again. At least MS sent me a brand new consoles along with an apology.

Time will only tell if the same doesn't happen to the PS3. Will you shelve out another £300 for a new one? Because you can bet your ass sony wont be fixing it for you past your years warranty judging by their past record.