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Midway: Secret game looks 'better' than Gears 2

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at a Wheelman press event which took place in London yesterday, creative director Simon Woodroffe has revealed that the future for Midway Games' titles is looking very good indeed and it's all because of the publisher's shared technology.

"I just saw a demo of a new Midway game that's in development. I can't tell you too much about it, but they've been on it for three months and it looks as good if not better than Gears 2," said Woodroffe. "This is only possible because of the sharing of technology."

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Deviant5620d ago

"but they've been on it for three months and it looks as good if not better than Gears 2"
...lol

thor5620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

... says a guy from Midway. How can he possibly be credible?

Furthermore, they're still using UE3 as far as I'm aware. That engine is getting old. Sure it can look better than Gears 2 which also uses UE3, but if they want to go much further, they've got to get a new engine.

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Rob0g0rilla5620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

and in 3 months they got it looking better then gears 2. Pssshtt

I kinda feel sorry for these guys. Grasping for straws, hoping to catch a break. There best just isn't enough.

InMyOpinion5620d ago

Gears 2 uses a greatly updated version of the UE3 engine used in Gears 1.

Rock Bottom5620d ago

I don't think Midway have what it takes to make a good game, not to mention making something better than gears.

blacsheep5620d ago

the recent comparison video shows miniscule difference between gears and gears 2.

The Killer5620d ago

certainly there is many games achieve greater heights in the graphics department, and if anyone doesnt agree is me is a pure fanboy, metal gears solid 4 and uncharted easily beat gears of war 2!

thor5620d ago

I know - I suppose you're right, the UE3 _now_ isn't the same UE3 as _before_. It's going to hit its limitations at some stage, though. It's always best (for the graphics at least) to have a custom-built engine for the game you're trying to produce.

I lol at fanboys who don't think Gears 2 is a tremendous graphical achievement though. And I lol at Midway for claiming to have built a game with better graphics than Gears 2 in 3 months. It probably looks good, but no doubt he's exaggerating.

jackhammer065620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

I felt was Gears 2 was better in some ways than Gears 1....

Doppy5619d ago

That's nice if it's true, but I doubt, they have much of a game then. If they've only been working on it for 3 months I'm pretty sure they only have about 1 stage done.

And even though it looks as good as Gears 2 now, they are going to have to step it up because as I have been saying 2009 is the year of Graphics. Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GT5, Forza 3, GOW, Crysis (possible PS3), so Midway is going to have to step it up because Gears 2 graphics will probably become the standard for multiplatform games, rather than being what Gears of War 1 was back in 2006.

I'm guessing it's a 3rd person shooter with a cover system since they said it's similar to Gears, but I'm interested in the different concept they were talking about.

solidsnakus5619d ago

midway LOL! the last good game they put out was NFL blitz for ps1

shovelbum5619d ago

Yeah right and it plays worse than Blacksite: Area 51. I am not much of a fan of Midway but I did enjoy The Suffering.

ShinMaster5619d ago

There ARE more games out there that look better than Gears 2.
That is nothing new.

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Fishy Fingers5620d ago

I'll hold off on the excitment until I see it with my own eyes. To many games are given unrealistic labels prior to public showing.

CloudsEnd5620d ago

Better than Gears 2 but not even as good as Killzone 2.

The Matrix5620d ago

This story might be believable except for the "midway" part.

Rob0g0rilla5620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

Oh wow....

Current 2010 lineup

- Secret Midway game
- Cool Midway game?
- Final Fantasy XIII
- Final Fantasy XIII Versus

Keeps getting bigger. Can't forget another Madden game that swears it's so much better then the last one.

Rock Bottom5620d ago

Final Fantasy XIII Versus for 2010?

Make that 2011.

Mr PS35620d ago

Well thats not Hard to Achieve

Come Back Gears when you got a game that looks half as good as Drakes Fortune never mind Metal Gear
Never mind BoTs
AHAHAHAHAHAH

HateBoy5620d ago

Lol @ blind person above me.

Gue15620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

I agree with Mr PS3.

quote from IGN of MGS4 for my friend @HateBoy:

"Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a title that exceeds all of the hype that was attached to the title.

10 Graphics
Incredibly detailed and visually breathtaking, with amazing camera angles, MGS4 is one of the most beautiful titles ever made."

You seriously need to play uncharted on an HDtv @HateBoy because that game looks too good too...

Find me a quote like that for GeoW2 from a respectable website as IGN. 1up, gamepro, gamespot, gameinformer,

Kill Crow5620d ago

the game everyone wants to beat graphics wize is gears ...

I'm sure when someone beats the longest cut scene MGS4 will get a mention ....

morganfell5620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

He isn't going to play any of those games because the truth would be too much to handle for him.

Before I even read Mr PS3's comments and I was looking at the headline and I was already thinking, "When it looks better than MGS4 give me a call."

It's like the moron above me that doesn't know that the cutscenes for MGS4 are in engine and move directly into game play. He also is unaware that the gameplay minus the cutscenes in MGS4 (interactive cutscenes for the most part) but the game play alone is around 20 hours. Twice as long as Gears 2.

Bangladesh5619d ago (Edited 5619d ago )

I can't wait to see the spin you little Sony twerps put on your comments when Gears of War 2 takes Best Graphics at the VGA's.

On topic: First rule of marketing a game is don't openly compare your game to another from a different dev, let your game stand on it's own merits.

Here is what IGN,Gamespy, and ZTGD had to say about Gears 2 graphics.

"Fantastic looking characters inhabit splendid worlds that feel truly alive. You?d be hard pressed to find a better looking game anywhere"

"While it's certainly open to debate, we're going to go out on a limb and call Gears of War 2 the most visually impressive game yet made"

"One of the best looking games ever "

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BIoodmask5620d ago

I have no faith in Midway after the travesty that is MK vs DC Universe. They have been on the verge of bankruptcy for years. The last game I remember enjoying from them is Hydro Thunder. That was probably about 10 years ago.

MK_Red5620d ago (Edited 5620d ago )

Come on, Psi-ops was awesome. Original Suffering was also not that bad. I'm with you on having no faith in Midway though.

TheColbertinator5620d ago

I agree with MK on that one.Psi-Ops was awesome.

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Gamers seek legal win that would stop devs from rendering online games unplayable

The organizer of "Stop Killing Games" hopes to get France and other governments to examine the legality of live service shutdowns. Scott has launched a new website, Stop Killing Games, to rally opposition to the games industry's "assault on both consumer rights and preservation of media," as he puts it.

-Foxtrot11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Should probably get them to implement offline mode when it comes to games you can play single player

It's shitty playing something solo and having to be connect despite being offline within the game.

It's worse when you get the games which can't be paused, I remember the doorbell going during a huge fight in Monster Hunter World, it took me ages but realised you couldn't pause. I ended up getting slaughtered after spending so long almost killing it.

Yi-Long10d ago

Driveclub is one of my favourite games of all-time, but once Sony killed it, it's barely playable in offline; Leaderboards are obviously gone so one of the things I liked to do most in the game, Time-attack, is now pretty pointless, and every race you start there's a red text on thr screen telling you you're offline.

There honestky was no need to keep the offline so integrated with the online stuff, and it's made me wary of other games which are now 'always online'.

purple10110d ago

should do what gran truismo on ps54 did, after severs shut, they unlock everything in the campaign to be played offline

there's no need for anti-cheat 'always online' which was always their excuse, thats and updating gamer progression

neutralgamer199210d ago

I didn’t know that. That’s awesome

Jingsing10d ago

and put out a physical version at the end, it is extra money for them at the end of the day.

blacktiger10d ago

Ppl get confused about this lawsuit, this guy has a point, if you don't want to pay for server cause no one is playing that's fine, at least make it PVP, that isn't hard and people paid for the game. So there for it shouldn't be unplayable. Offline is not what he's fighting for but that would be single player. He just fighting for PVP as to dedicated if you going to take it down.

I agree with this one! I hope he wins!

SimpleSlave10d ago

"Offline is not what he's fighting for but that would be single player. "

Always Online does include fully fledged Single Player Campaigns as well. And that's why I think The Crew is being used; The Precedent that covers it all.

Games like The Division 1 and 2 also have Single Player Campaigns, and Ghost Recon Breakpoint is a fully fledged Single Player game but always Online. Which mean that unless uBeSawft patches them they will all cease to exist once uBeSawft pulls the plug.

Again, I think this is why The Crew is being used as the precedent, because it covers all the Online Only bases; Not just the usual Multiplayer PvE and PvP like an MMO or Shooters and their Servers, but also actual Single Player Campaigns that are sadly always online.

Inverno10d ago

Should pin this to let it be on top for a while. This sort of stuff should get some good amount of attention, could actually make some good change in the industry.

HyperMoused10d ago

SP games yes, MP games, its a question of whos maintaing the servers etc and keeing them online.

blackblades10d ago

PvP games it should work. I remember playing black ops offline with AI opponents but of course its funner with real and AI bots. I know some games are server base but I imagine if hard work put in to it that, it can work offline.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

At least on the PC side I say if a company doesn't want to support a game anymore just give it to the fans. They will keep it alive for years and years. Like UT2004 for example you can still play it today, or BF1942. For any SP games I just torrent and keep it forever if they pull the plug. 😊

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Square Enix Already "Hard At Work" On Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3

Development on the next game in the Final Fantasy 7 Remake trilogy might be further ahead than we thought. In a video discussing the series, the project leads say they are "hard at work" on the finale, right after launching Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.

This comment was made by Remake and Rebirth director Tetsuya Nomura, who says that he and the scenario writer Kazushige Nojima are already working on the next game. Better yet, composer Nobuo Uematsu says that he'd be "honoured" to return for the finale, despite previously fearing that he doesn't have the "strength" for another game.

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just_looken16d ago

So i take it they won't be fixing there last game with the visual/movement problems.
https://youtu.be/B2rHUbqauU...

Just keep tossing them out

Barlos16d ago

Nothing worse than a grammar nazi

_Decadent_Descent15d ago

@Barlos

Nothing worse than those that let others keep on making a fool of themselves and say nothing to correct them. That's why they continue to keep making those mistakes.

Pyrofire9515d ago

I appreciate that many more people are agreeing with the grammar correction and disagreeing with Barlos.

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garos8216d ago

yikes talk about nit picking and strawmanning

roadkillers16d ago

This is something most crtics bring up... but they still gave the game 9+ score. As big of a deal as you are making it, a VAST majority of players were just fine with the graphics compared to waht they got with Rebirth

DarXyde15d ago

Dude complains about everything.

I haven't finished the game yet, but I'm having a blast.

Just negative for the sake of being negative.

dumahim15d ago

While I'd guess they're probably not going to do much else about it at this point, just because they're working on the sequel doesn't mean they can't have someone working on the visual issues for Rebirth. Likewise, it also doesn't mean they're not working on a DLC for it either.
Either way, I'd put money on it that they'll update the game for PS5 Pro.

Exvalos15d ago

Keep up the hatred fanboy, and we will keep playing great games

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GoodGuy0916d ago

Sweet....and hopefully can actually answer all the wtfs rather than giving us more questions that has been happening in these games lol. And I hope they just end the game properly instead of trying to milk VII even more. I'd very much like to see remakes of other FF titles on the same level.

-Foxtrot16d ago

God I hope this is it for VII

They’ve milked it far too much over the years, I mean Wikipedia has its own VII specific page because there’s so much media for it

It’s time for other FF games to get some love

gold_drake16d ago

im all for it, remake and rebirth were fantastic, especially rebirth, my god wat a brilliant game.

i mean, we had 16 and 14 still be a thing.
and 9 is getting a remake too, apparently

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

As much as I love FF7, they have really milked it to death, 2 compilations of FF7 which includes novels, games, mobile games, movies and animation...

They really need to put more effort into newer FF games.

-Foxtrot15d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic

Yeah I mean look at it man, why does anyone want it milked even more when other FF games are starving for attention.

https://i.ibb.co/3mT2TRc/12...

Furesis16d ago

Well when you have Tetsuya Nomura hands on something, that is what you get. Whether you like it or not that's another thing.
I don't think they should make remakes like this anymore, and they won't that's what they said also. It takes too long and it just fragments the game too much for my taste. And i'd prefer a more 1 to 1 remake with maybe a slightly smaller budget so that it would actually be made in a reasonable time rather than these 10+ year projects.

gold_drake16d ago

nomura doesnt ely that much of a role in the trilogy, its Nojima u need to blame ha.

as for the og, there are mods u can use for that.

we'll never get an updated og game. it would take them years to finish it, even if its 1:1

fr0sty16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

nobody will buy a 1:1 remake, they already know what is going to happen exactly... and you can't properly remake a 20+ year old game 1:1 anyway, so much needs to be done to bring it to modern standards, that you have to change some things.

Michiel198915d ago

@frosty that's the same thing the execs at blizzard said about WoW classic and here we are. You think you do, but you don't

dumahim15d ago

They did a Remaster for Crisis Core, which seemed near impossible due to a licensing issue not too long ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for Dirge of Cerberus before part 3.

I do worry what they'll do with part 3 though. They're not just going to abandon the nonsense. Rebirth was like 98% fantastic, but those whispers moments and their take on what is one of the most iconic scenes in video games ever just upsets me.

Hofstaderman16d ago

80 hours into rebirth and loving it. Bring it on Square.

gold_drake16d ago

i had 118h at the end. with everything done minues the queens blood stuff. and i absolutely loved every minute of it

Hofstaderman15d ago

I just want to say bugger mog house level 6. Will return to that later

Shiro17315d ago

Only one thing I hated it and it was the relic hunt for the sand spot next to the flying saucer. I hated that mini game for the relic. Killing those cactus with Aerith was annoying.

fr0sty16d ago

I like the remakes better than the original that I grew up playing back in the 90s... they are doing it right. And that soundtrack... I still jam the Gongaga theme all the time.

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Real-Time Resurgence: The Story of Shadow Tactics, Stealth Strategy, & Mimimi Games

In this retrospective, we'll cover the revival of the Real-Time Tactics genre and the story of the developers who did it, Mimimi Games.

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DaReapa15d ago

Same here. I got it and its expansion. A shame that Mimimi had to close its doors.