New Xbox Experience brings RRoD

Oy vey... Looks like the New Xbox Experience dashboard update is experiencing some not-so-new Xbox woes. November 19: launch day for the NXE update. Not 24 hours after it went live, complaints are already piling up.

Various forums online have threads and threads of people reporting anything from connection freezes, slow downs, lock ups, broken TV connections, and so many other different numerical errors that, if all of them were strung together, could potentially measure all the way from Earth to the moon (and back).

No, but seriously though.

There are even reports of brickage - yes, the famed red ring of death is back. Some say it's limited to modded consoles only (no surprise there) but other untainted units seem to be affected by the same problem too.

We've yet to hear any official response from Major Nelson or any of the Microsoft staff. Some say the slow downs are caused by the simple fact of surging traffic accessing XBL, but the other problems are still unaccounted for.

If you are experiencing any problems with the NXE update, you might want to contact customer service (good luuuuuck!) or check out the forums to ask around if anyone's getting the same problem as you.

[tortella]

since 3 year warantees have run out for like a million gamers worldwide

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa

poor MS

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

But why do it now Micro$oft??? In November for??? It's a busy time of the year and all that. Don't make sense really to me, to do a big update near xMas. Oh well!
Oh O.K FanBoy bit, pp would do it to PS3 Fans!!! ;-D

http://www.ibitstore.com/im...

Oooooops!!!;)

[Anton Chigurh]

remember 2.40 fw ???? nasim ?? do you actually have one = PS3 ??

mine is a launch model and I updated it without any issue

another BS news from SDF

[Hentai]

Time for 360 fans to go get laid.

[morganfell]

You can't even begin to compare the few issues with 2.40 to the mountain of persistent and worldwide problems called RROD. It's like comparing a mosquito bite to a decapitation.

MS did this because they believe owners will turn around and either pay for the repairs or just buy a new 360 outright. The fact that they waited for warranties to expire reeks and is obviously a a deliberate, money grubbing action.

[chaosatom]

LOL, Just buy a ps3 PP, you'll be Happy.

:):):)

[ultimolu]

Well, I guess 360 fanboys forgot this article.

http://www.gamercenteronlin...

What, that's bullsh*t too?

[Rick Astley]

Merry Xmas, Xbots. :)

[0verdrive]

ho ho ho

ok fanboyism aside, that sucks for the xbox community. i just find it funny that a lotta xbox fanboys on this side are trying to say that the sony fanboys are spinning this, when the source is an xbox site. just something i found amusing.

[Rick Astley]

Somebody get Bloodmask some tissues his 360 just got the RROD.

[BUKKAKALYPSE]

This is truly the funniest crap i've seen a long time. How desperate are the droids these days. Seems like everyday there is another SDF member writing a blog about the 360 and MS and they're never even close on their claims. The fact is the only hang ups are due to the volume of people on live playing around with all the new features. This will be resolved quite quickly. Tomorrow when we all sign in there will be no freezing issues. Droid desperation/Jealousy stinks really bad. They're all butt-hurt because XBL got a whole new look and feel before HOME is released and it was announced WAY after HOME was.. Another case of MS delivering and Droids grasping at straws. This site has turned into: post a link to an SDF member's blog, have a flamebait title that people will read and take as truth and then spam every thread with incorrect info. And for the legit articles?? keep that flamebait title because you know damn well a droid won't actually open the link to read the information. N4G is a digital comedy show. and the comedians are PP, sir Ken the qu33r, Juuken,Dark sniper,canadianguy,rick astley, Ali the brit etc. These people need to be banned

[Xlll]

@Anton Chigurh - at least with 2.40 our consoles didn't die on us. Nice try at damage control but much like those 360's you failed.

[BLuKhaos]

POOR BOTS I GUESS THEY FINALLY GOT AN STD FROM ALL THAT EARFU(KING M$ GAVE THEM.CRY ON BOTS CRY ON.
http://i157.photobucket.com...

[0verdrive]

its sad that you assume that the writer of this article is a ps3 fanboy, because, what if he isnt? why do you assume that EVERY single negative article is written by a ps3 fanboy? equally as stupid is when ps3 fanboys claim that ms pays off all its reviewers.

but the point is, look at the site. its not just some blog that someone made up to try and slander the 360 name. its a legitimate xbox360 site, with a legitimate xbox team, who so happens to be posting problems they see occurring with the nxe.

fanboy? fake blogs? SDF? your just making yourself sound like a diluted fanboy, that discredits news about your own console from a site dedicated to your console, just because you dont like it. its a real shame that your belittling the work of whoever wrote this article as well, ESPECIALLY since he is catering to the likes of YOU.

[TheFreak]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[pixelsword]

quick: stop, drop and roll!

All kidding aside, I hope you guys get a quick solution and are back to playing Gears 2 again.

I want to see if the Falcon-chipped 360's are going bad...

...and to see what happens to people who own a 360 past their warranty date.

[ELite_Ghost]

NEW EXPERIENCE = RROD

sounds like the good old experience 360 fanboys have been getting for 3 years...

[Spike47]

hopefully MS will fix it soon. Kind of funny how its like Star Wars, seeing as the xbox360's lights are green and all and RROD is red(dark side). I don't know I just wanted to point that out.

[tortella]

plus MS themselves issued a warning too

I believe NXE was rushed and why not u are competiting with 2D avatars against 3D virtual space like HOME

The best idea is to make an impression before HOME arrives and HOME is phenomenal

[WANNA GET HIGH]

This is shocking.
MS should get ready to lose more money in replacing the consoles and now most people 3years warranty is up i can be %100 they will be a lot of pissed of 360 gamers "REALLY PISSED OFF" some might just end switching to the ps3.

[fadeawayjae]

it just reminds me of christmas

[HighDefinition]

The original warranties are almost up.

[RememberThe357]

This seems like the something Sony went through with firmware 2.40.

[B4st10n]

... following the 10% brickage NXE brought the Xbox 360, Microsoft is pleased to announce that Xbox live accounts have gone up tremendously during the last weeks. User accounts went from 15 millions to almost 17 millions in just a handful of days. Steve Ballmer was seen throwing chairs at the Sony building shouting "You can't compete with us! I will f*ckin bury you!".

[Bnet343]

I knew this would come up. Oh well, sucks for those guys. If mines RROD'd I'd be covered and have my PS3 to hold me out till' it would come back.

[Hentai]

Time to fix the problem.

[HighDefinition]

The RROD is NOT a conspiracy!!!!

2-3 "ring out" at every gaming event, MS is lucky one has done it during a presentation!

[sonarus]

But we were warned
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

[chaosatom]

Like xbox has been left 4 dead.

or He wasn't able to finish the fight.

LOL.

But Seriously, Microsoft should get right on the issue.

[f789790]

And whoever disagreed with RememberThe357 and the ps3's 2.4 update problems has their head up their a$$. It did bring problems when it first came out. I only have a ps3 and I admit there were slowdowns at first.

[barakiu]

i had an XBoX1 and I bought 20 games, but come to find out my drive was defective and all the games i attempted to play got scratched to death.

i never want to see another Microsoft console again.

donate to impoverished, starving people instead of wasting your money on a XBoX, at least you'll see a return insomuch as having a happier outlook on society.

[SonyOwnsNextYear]

watch microsofts "repairs" be added into "sales" for the holiday season, that way they can technically say "WE moved xxxxxxx (number) of x360s"

[gamesmaster]

"the xbox has been left 4 dead" that actually made me laugh out loud bubbles for that one.

[JD_Shadow]

So where is the proof that it's NOT happening?

By the way, I guess you're the only one that didn't concede that there is a problem, since we have two sources saying there are issues. Why is it that there is always one person that has a tin foil hat on every single time these stories come up and say "OMG CONSPIRACY!" to everything.

@RememberThe357 & f789790: It's not the same thing. When people were having issues with 2.40, Sony IMMEDIATELY went to rectify the problem that was not before an issue (the first widespread hardware issue with the PS3 that I was aware of). Not so here. And it's making something that they said wasn't an issue anymore come back up and bite them in the ass, and they STILL have no answer to it. Yet we're to blame for making it an issue and for bringing the RROD up in the FIRST place? Figure THAT one out!

@disagree(s): Please at least TELL me WHY you disagree instead of hiding behind it. God, why does no one listen when I said N4G needs SOME record as to who agrees and disagrees to comments so no one can hide behind them?

[Ldubbz]

"So where is the proof that it's NOT happening? " sez darkride...

That made me laugh out loud...remember that Simpsons episode, when they form a Bear Patrol squad because one bear was sighted? Lisa and Homer had a conversation that went something like this..

LISA: Dad, we dont need any bear patrol

HOMER: Why not? you dont see any bears around do you?

LISA: Thats proposterous! (grabs a rock) You see this rock? It keeps tigers away.

HOMER: Explain

LISA: Well, you dont see any tigers around do you?

HOMER: Lisa, I would like to buy your rock

[thebudgetgamer]

but there is no way we should still bee talking about rrod stuff three years into the 360 for shame ms for shame

:)

above bubble for the simpsons reference

[ThanatosDMC]

I didnt get it but i had NXE before the official release. It works just fine for me. Sucks for those people. Maybe too many downloading at one time messed it up somehow?

[ape007]

guys,after I installed sr2 on hd

I notice some slowdown and screentearing

and....damn

I already installed gears 2,sr2,gta4,cod 4,tfu and someother

am afraid my 360 get red lights

if this happens,that's it 360 is the most unreliable vg system in history

enough with my old one,it got e74 and rrod

my head will explode if this is true

guys,please tell me,DOES INSTALLS RAISE THE RATE OF GETTING RROD OR NXE ITSELF?

do I need to delete all my saved games

[Bodhi]

LMFAO, you Sony guys are just eating this right up... None of you HAVE a 360 that RROD with this update but you all are flocking to it with a smirk on your face. Hell I could do it too.

"Lol, looks like Microsoft didn't test well enough, RROD is back and it's not good."

Pffft, any of you remember Firmware update V2.40 for the PS3? Hmmmm? Freezing up and locking up of PS3s? Bricking PS3s?

No one on my 100 person friends list experienced a RROD as they ALL have avatars.

I'm not doubting this happens, it will happen, there's no way to stop it from happening. But it doesn't happen too often.

We aren't talking about the RROD in general, just the NXE RROD which is a very small percentage.

How come no one is bringing up how Live is doing an amazing job of not crashing completely when 15 million Live users had downloaded the NXE?

Of the course the bad news is the hottest temperature and the PS3 praising is also at the hottest temperature.

You guys are the ultimate FUD spreaders, I've seen at least 3 forums that I visit laugh and mock this site for the comments as they all know that everyone here is a fanboy, mostly on Sony's side. I don't like to side with any side but honestly, this is ridiculous.

I lost 2 bubbles, I went from 6 bubbles to 4 bubbles from being pissed off at Sony for stripping away their movies from Netflix 360, which made me pretty pissed off. And why shouldn't I be? Would any of you be pissed of you bought a Sony Vaio only to have it not installed with Windows? Or would you be pissed off if you bought a Sony phone and it didn't work with Windows Mobile?

You people make me laugh, hard.

[pixelsword]

So I guess the update could in theory cause RRoD.

[shovelbum]

No problems here but I feel for those who experience them. However I don't put too much stock in forums when it comes to numbers so maybe it's not as big an issue as some fanboys would like for it to be. Anyway I like the new update and look forward to more customization in the future.

[big_tim]

30 min before locking up. I got to customize my avatar and was checking out the new interface and then it froze. Turned off on again and logged into netflix. As soon as the streaming titles appeared , the screen went crazy and it froze. Powered off then on and logged into netflix and it did the same thing again. This time the RROD happened. This is my third 360 and had been fine for over a year. Now I have to MS to send a 4th. Here I go again...

[Homicide]

You get what you pay for. Cheaper costs = hidden costs.

[Ju]

Just FYI (and OT), but 2.40 did not break the PS3, it rendered it unusable. Reflashing the PS3 would have fixed the very same unit and in most cased, clearing the HDD helped (reformating it). 2.41 fixed the problem, too. But obviously, if your PS3 does not boot you need extra HW to flash the EEProm. No single FW update ever broke the PS3 HW! (That is, what the RRoD is).

But, w/e. I don't even know if this story is true. NXE == Vista for 360 ? :) Nah, if there are reports still in ten days from now, then I believe it, else I consider this a fluke.

[JD_Shadow]

>> LMFAO, you Sony guys are just eating this right up... None of you HAVE a 360 that RROD with this update but you all are flocking to it with a smirk on your face. Hell I could do it too. <<

Nice of you to just ASSUME that anyone that says of this in any kind of bad light are somehow Sony fanboys by default. Too bad you really don't know what they own, or you don't CARE to know because it may damage your already feeble talking points.

>> "Lol, looks like Microsoft didn't test well enough, RROD is back and it's not good."

Pffft, any of you remember Firmware update V2.40 for the PS3? Hmmmm? Freezing up and locking up of PS3s? Bricking PS3s? <<

Read my post up above and you MIGHT be able to know that there is a difference between the two incidents. For one, you IMMEDIATELY went to a Sony-related incident. Alot of things can go wrong with anything when you update it. That's common sense. Now, before you go and try to take me out of context and rush to reply to that, hear out the rest of this answer: Sony rushed to fix the problem, taking the firmware offline until they could get it fixed, and offered to replace the broken PS3s for free because of it. That and it was the first PS3 issue of that kind that was widespread. MS knew about the RROD for years and has yet to come up with any kind of permanent resolution, and this NXE is making an old friend come back, and MS has yet to respond or to even acknowledge that there IS anything wrong. THERE'S your difference. And by the way, none of that makes this issue any more condonable.

But I KNOW you're going to try to say that I somehow admitted that this would be the same thing as my first line (before the REST of my answer that I labeled).

>> No one on my 100 person friends list experienced a RROD as they ALL have avatars. <<

That doesn't mean that they didn't have problems once they installed it. They didn't say the RROD was the ONLY thing that people experienced. There was disconnects and lag and all of that. Apparently you just saw the letters RROD and panicked that someone would think something other than "MS is the best" and went to typing without reading the entire article.

>> I'm not doubting this happens, it will happen, there's no way to stop it from happening. But it doesn't happen too often. <<

Yes you are. You said in your last line that you had a friends list of 100 that never experienced the RROD! What the hell IS that supposed to mean. Oh, I see: "But it doesn't happen too often." Obviously you just didn't seem to pay attention the last 2 or so YEARS that the RROD has been the mark of the beast on the 360 console. That and, like I said, the RROD isn't the only thing they listed as the issues that people have had, but you never read what was said, so why bother with details?

>> We aren't talking about the RROD in general, just the NXE RROD which is a very small percentage. <<

You keep repeating the same damn thing. Again, READ! THE! ARTICLE!

>> How come no one is bringing up how Live is doing an amazing job of not crashing completely when 15 million Live users had downloaded the NXE? <<

*facepalm*

>> Of the course the bad news is the hottest temperature and the PS3 praising is also at the hottest temperature. <<

So you think that the thousands of people that DO have issues with the product just ignore them and pretend they don't exist? If anything, they should use this as a way to figure out that there IS something wrong with it and get about to fix it.

And by the way, were you here for 2007? And have you been here the past few days when a LOT of pro-MS news was on the top of the temp list? Seems to me that you think even ONE negative 360 story or one pro-PS3 story is too much for you to handle.

>> You guys are the ultimate FUD spreaders, <<

Look in the mirror.

>> I've seen at least 3 forums that I visit laugh and mock this site for the comments as they all know that everyone here is a fanboy, mostly on Sony's side. <<

Let me guess, one of those forums is the XBox Kings, right? Seriously, though, why not just argue the points without getting into this "N4G is for fanboys" argument like it's your only explanation as to why people react to stories the way they do. Maybe they are just tired of seeing the same damn issues come up with MS's console without any acknowledgment of their pleas to do something serious ABOUT it. You don't get that there are also disgruntled 360 owners that aren't exactly happy that the RROD or the other issues (regardless of where they come from) keep popping up. Why is it that with the 360, you either have to like absolutely EVERYTHING about it or else you're a PS3 fanboy? I fail to get that and no one is ever going to tell me, I guess.

>> I don't like to side with any side but honestly, this is ridiculous. <<

So...is that why you never once bring up anything BAD the 360 has done? You keep denying it happens before you say you're NOT denying it.

>>. I lost 2 bubbles, I went from 6 bubbles to 4 bubbles from being pissed off at Sony for stripping away their movies from Netflix 360, which made me pretty pissed off. <<

No, you lost them because you just blindly defend MS and keep insisting that you are completely right and say that anyone with an opinion that in any way goes against what you want them to say is wrong. You did it in the last place that you were actually responding to me. You said what you could to defend Microsoft ( http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... ) without even believing that anything couldn't be refuted with some common sense of research. THAT'S why you lost your bubbles, not because of some conspiracy against your opinions.

>> And why shouldn't I be? Would any of you be pissed of you bought a Sony Vaio only to have it not installed with Windows? Or would you be pissed off if you bought a Sony phone and it didn't work with Windows Mobile? <<

And no one that has a PS3 are allowed to be pissed that MS continues to make people like SE, Eidos, and Namco sell out by making their PS3 exclusives go multiplat while no one ever allows a yet-to-be-released 360 exclusive goes multiplat, all before delaying the game for the PS3 just so the 360 version can be released at the exact same time? It's just them saying that what goes around, comes around, and that it is about time SOMEONE at Sony had a backbone to go and do something that drastic to damage a MS "advantage".

>> You people make me laugh, hard. <<

Maybe THAT'S why you never actually READ this article (because it's obvious you didn't).

[thebudgetgamer]

but if i had to go through 4 of them you can bet your backside it would be out with the trash.
That being said i have tons of respect for the 360 as a gaming console and cant wait to get one for myself but these issues are still prevalent and that bothers me.

:)

[Wiinsight]

Anybody know Nintendo's tech support number? Oh wait! Nobody would ever need it.

[lsujester]

No, but if they have a number that will let me complain about the lack of games, I definitely want it.

[NewZealander]

ever since the update fable 2 keeps crashing on me, its a new xbox too, anyone else with this problem pm me and let me know

[KRUSSIDULL]

Those who have gotten RROD get a new one and put your old harddrive on it its cheaper than pay 100$ for repairs.

[himdeel]

...no problem http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...

[Bloodwar]

Go Sony!

[Hellsvacancy]

The Ps3 has had a LOT of stick in recent weeks its pay back time...

Putting fanboyism aside - i wouldnt wish for anybodys system to break (Except Pog and PP) but hay its tough luck

Ps3 rules

[tortella]

Think about the millions of x360 owners whose warantees have run out
I feel bad cuz now they have to pay for repairing their consoles which is very costly

[chaosatom]

Sony did an excellent job with the hardware department.

[f789790]

Eventually they will be faced with either buying a new console or paying microsoft to repair their old one.

[FreedomReign]

Wow 3 years and no problems, and blam November 23 the thing dies? That's one unlucky SOB.

Edit: Oh wait its not November 23 yet, so every single 360 since launch still has a warranty. If they really wanted to screw people over, MS should have waited a week.

[cheapndirty]

I have an arcade and a pro. No problems at all.

[ofx360]

WHAT THE F*CK... no one owns me im a free black man FREE!!!! LOL

[Sarcasm]

Power of Green doesn't have a 360.

Why? Because there's too many good games on the 360 and he sure aint playing them, he's on N4G trolling PS3 news.

[SaiyanFury]

Holy $hit. I own an original model 360 that hasn't RROD'd on me yet. I keep it relatively cool with a fan blowing on it, but I haven't played it recently with all of the great PS3 titles coming out. Things like Resistance 2, Naruto, and Valkyria Chronicles (HUGELY addictive game). I guess I won't be 'uprading' my 360's firmware until these bugs get fixed. Lord knows I'm not out of my RROD warranty quite yet, but I don't think I'll take the risk. Good thing I'm not addicted to online gaming. Not that I could anyways; I never upgraded my Xbox Live silver account to gold. I ain't giving MS any extra money for things that I can get on Sony's console for free. *cough* built in Wi-Fi *cough*

[MaximusPrime]

"Epic FAIL"

[madestar]

1-2-3 red light!!! or should i say 1-2-3 RROD!!! LOL!!!!

fanboyism aside...

i use to own a XBOX 360... i had so many problems with it... i had to ship to fix 3 times... (i know some who shipped at least 7 times)

when i got a ps3 ? after that i never turned back.. i'm glad i'm playing games, surfing the net, looking at my photos, watching bd movies, and yes all in 7.1 surround sound, and i'm also upscaling my old dvd collections, and playing ps1 and ps2 titles, waiting for HOME to hit.. all is grand on the ps3 side of things..

now imagine if i stayed loyal to the XBOX 360.. i would of expeienced who knows how many RROD.. or hardware failure... hopefully they fix it.. cause i do sometimes play games on my bro's XBOX 360.. only because he had GTA4.. (which i can get on ps3 but why when he already has the game) and GOW2...

MY POINT IS I'M GLAD I JUMPED SIDES AND XBOX 360 HARDWARE IS A PIECE OF TURD THAT SOMEONE JUST STEPPED ON. STANKNESS ALL AROUND

[Mr PS3]

Oh Fu*K IT

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[Fobuo]

RROD is part of the NXE?!??!its been here all along!

lol I'm joking but seriously though;a system dying due to an update is pretty common,it's just that the RROD magnifies the situation

[Shaka2K6]

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[dukadork]

XDDDDDDD

[Eiffel]

I updated mine and it works perfectly...

I could give a rats ass about the ones who have their system F*cked up.

As long as mine works they can cry their hearts out, still beats using the PS3's ugly XMB styles.

[solidjun5]

first you say you don't care if other's RROD as long it's not yours. Then you on to rant about XMB when it has nothing to do with it. Karma will be a know what if your machine RROD on you.

[Eiffel]

I don't know if you noticed but since the new update hit many people neglect the Open Zone and the Gamer Zone. So why only pin me against a statement I made about Sonys flat boring dashboard...Karma in all is a superstition, don't use it as a form of defense.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Ur very immature.

[Erotic Sheep]

And Home is gonna replace that dashboard... so then what? :|

[elorm9]

What's bad about it? Its simple enough to use, and you can make custom themes if you like. It's not like you stare at your main menu all day on your 360 right? I don't know about you, but I'm either playing a game or using the browser, not staring at a menu.

[silvacrest]

Custom themes anyone?

and for your stupid and selfish comments i hope (i might even pray)
that your 360 dies

[squallheart]

hmm i actually enjoy the xmb its very simple and stylish. A breeze to navigate quickly. o.O

[bigman7387]

I think the XMB is easier to navigate than the new dashboard.

[Rhoic]

Home rofl.. yeah right.

Also.. the NXE is having VERY little problems. Out of the 20 people on my friends list that are on right now.. none of them have had problems. I guarantee you that the goods far far outweigh the bads.

[Fobuo]

Yup,because you,a single Internet poster,represent 22 Million Xbox 360 users

[MaximusPrime]

well-commented. bubble for you

[InMyOpinion]

But a single RROD case represents 25 (22?) million Xbox 360 users...

[ultimolu]

Lol, bubbles for you as well.

[Why o why]

the only way to avoid the red ring of death is to BECOME A FANBOY as they are immune to any know problem know to man, beast or tech. Just ask pog , blademask et el if they've had any issues. I bet NEVER

[Ldubbz]

If u dont see it, then youre lost

[Sarcasm]

"25 (22?) million Xbox 360 users... "

www.vgchartz.com

Xbox 360 = 22.86M

Keeping note that vgchartz has inflated the 360's numbers by 1 million or more.

So where does this magical 25 million number come from?

[bviperz]

Sarcasm. So fitting :D

[rawd]

Merry Christmas Bots!!

Ho Ho Hold on a minute whats the number for the MS RMA Department

[morganfell]

I ran a Who's Who on the NXE site and it goes back to some company called Grinch Inc.

[Sparx_4_4_]

im a ps3 owner got the ylod playing cod W@W getting a brand new 80 gb next friday love the idea of nxe not that i want sony to copy the idea (yes they should npe sounds wrong tho

[elorm9]

That's why they've got home :)

They can implement those features you get on NXE if they want.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

u people are so naive until it turns into stupidity. RROD cannot be caused by software changes. its a hardware related problem. if u believe this then ur stupid as well lol

[lokiroo420]

Yeah but software affects how the hardware runs, vista anyone?, added stress to a stressed out component could send it to failure.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

the NXE is more lightweight than the previous dashboard. those people got RROD due to hardware issues, and blamed it on the new dashboard thats all. if that was the case, then every xbox 360 should be RROD'ing then. dont be gullible and stupid

[NipGrip]

How software can affect hardware heat levels.. Then I've got nothing else to say to you other than lol all you want, it's you that is the fool.

[Boty]

Just like the overclocking option in your BIOS/CMSO doesn't effect the heat of a CPU right?

[bomboclaat_gamer]

well i fix RROD xbox 360's for as my second job. just shut up if u dont know what ur talking about ok?

[lokiroo420]

I feel sorry for those people who had you fixing their box, again this is an easy example on how software affects hardware, windows vista, did you read that correctly, it does not matter on the size of the install, bad programming is bad programming and bad hardware is bad hardware, both together together=rrod. But a lot of this could be a conveniently placed towel to get one more fix before its too late.

[slinkey123]

Seriously people NXE DOESNT cause RROD, RROD is caused by heat issues! Software can make a difference to hardware but seriously would NXE stress the hardware even more than games? i think not! Games like gears 2 and GTA4 are far more likely to push it than NXE.

[VampHuntD]

You really should just shut up since you have no idea what you are talking about.

Hey, your words, not mine.

[pixelsword]

...the software demands more out of the hardware; most specifically anything that's coupled to a heatsink. If the execution of code is demanding on the processor, for example, the useage of the processor will increase, thereby increasing the heat output from the processor. In the case of Microsoft's processor, this will could potentially cause problems to occur.

[big_tim]

It just does. I was on my 3rd console. It has been fine for over a year (no lock ups or anything) until I updated today. It froze just navigating through the new menus. Then running netflix on it caused it to RROD. I doubt it was the actual netflix that caused it, but that is when it died. Now I have to wait 2-3 weeks to get a replacement from MS. It doesn't matter which was the problem (hardware or software) it is a problem to have to go through this.

[Sky Sentry]

You truly have no idea what you are talking about. If you fix RROD as your second job, no wonder RROD is still occurring in so-called "fixed" X360.

[wray77]

Are these the same people who gave Gears of War 2 a 0 on metacritic?

[creeping judas]

I thought the same thing!!!

[tatotiburon]

BINGO!!, you got that right

[InMyOpinion]

I'd say it's coincidental, they just found something new to blame it on. I think I read an article a while ago that said Gears of War 2 caused RROD as well.

If anything the 360 seems a lot more reliable while running installed games.

[Why o why]

less movement and heat going on. I think it was actually a cunning move by MS. Instances of rrod should, in theory, lessen if more people use the 'optional' install. Only silly people wont install if they have the space, i mean why not??

[elorm9]

It's probably just the hardware again, and the fact that installed games don't cause that much stress on the DVD drive is a good thing. But I don't think this feature is gonna cure the problem, most likely gonna lessen the chance.

[VampHuntD]

I agree it is a cunning move, a move that will lead to eventual mandatory installs!

I'm just speculating on that one, but it makes sense. MS has been puching larger hard drives and now an optional install. It's only a matter of time if you ask me.

[DarthTigra]

The only problem Ive had is that when backing out of someone from my friend list 4 out of 10 times the system will lock up.

[hazardman]

Is this a mandatory update?? thanks

[tk]

No you don't need the update to get RRoD. It comes standard.

[athlon770]

you still have the option to not install it, but everytime you start up the 360 or if you want to play online...an update you will be a doin.

[JackSchitt]

lol @ tk

[LeShin]

@tk

LMFAO!!!!! That was harsh....but funny as hell!

[bviperz]

That was too clever tk!

[DA_SHREDDER]

I downloaded Gears 2 on my 360,, its not even half as hot anymore. This article is bogus.

[dirtrider]

and since this article has no links to "all the reports of problems" it is bogus. i predicted yesterday the sdf would have 3 rrod articles on n4g today so they need 2 more for my prediction to be true. i have the update no problem what so ever, got my avatar dude look cool as hell and im liking the update a lot so far. funny thing is 99% of the posts on this "article" arent even 360 owners.....anyways game on man but you are right this article is BS

[Sparx_4_4_]

people said ylod is bs but its not trust me its a harware issue thing only

[Menchi]

Oh, YLOD exists... But barely.

There's a difference between 0.5~1.5% [YLOD] and 10~15%[RROD]

That's what you seem to forget.

[Fobuo]

Yes it is,it's about 128MB in size,so if you own an Arcade console you're fine with your 256MB card.

If you own a Core console though,you're basically screwed

[InMyOpinion]

Unless you own a Core with a memory card, which I assume most people do. If they want to use game saves that is...

[VampHuntD]

Then you are a fool. You are already half way there for buying a core however.

[Pennywise]

This is not funny at all. BUT-

I have been waiting for this article all day.

[Balance]

yeah you know the sony defense force fangirls would either make something up or try and magnify a very small problem for a very few people.

[Pennywise]

Balance... that was not my point.

You seem just as bad as them though. A huge update like this is bound to really cause problems. Shocking it took until 4pm eastern to hear about it.

Not every time you hear about a problem is it someone slandering the product. People arent going to spend their time making accounts to cry about broken xbox's. You make it like the problem is not real.

[Captain Tuttle]

It took until 4 PM because it's not that big of a problem. It wouldn't surprise me if these were mostly modded consoles (of course no one will admit to having one). If reports of RROD start rolling in and keep it up for a couple of days then that would signal a problem.

[ultimolu]

Just like what 360 fans did when a firmware update for the PS3 affected a few people?

Oh no, 360 fans were cool with attacking PS3 fans when that happened. But now, they're on the defense.

It's amazing that it's three years and this RROD still exists.

[Sparx_4_4_]

tho i know updates can corrupt systems and all that but rrod existed before and is still here and the guy just got it at this time coincidence i say

[DreamSnach2]

again with the crap

[blackbeld]

It's gonna be a cold Christmas for 360 owners.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Not really,360's make wonderful heaters!

[MaximusPrime]

LMAO: Heater! that the brilliant answer for life-long issue with elderly people.

[NeonSkull]

lol, this is funny, this is funny, xbox3fixme

[PlayStationGamer4eva]

More like the Xbox Please Fix Me!

[Sparx_4_4_]

rrod thing aint funny no more to either side because my ps3 broke today

[joevfx]

go read up on the failure rates of both systems, then post your comment again.

[ultimolu]

My condolences to you.

It's never a good thing when consoles break on people. It takes the fun out of gaming.

Hope you get it resolved.

[VampHuntD]

That sucks man, do you still have at least one console to hold you over while you wait for the PS3 repair?

It's true, any console breaking sucks. I still recall the days when breaking a console involved at least a 20 ft. drop off a balcony or a hammer. Those were the good old days eh?

[RebornSpy]

but besides that, I'm loving the update so far. I really like the new dashboard, especially the friends list and ability to form an 8 person party. The avatars look good too. And they look more like Yahoo avatars than Miis, but they don't necessarily look blatantly copied from any one specific thing. But who cares? The update is amazing.

[xg-ei8ht]

I had a chance to play with the update earlier, a friend has it, was working fine, and it's not bad.

Too all those people, it is caused by one thing and one thing alone.

HEAT!!!!!!!!!!HEAT!!!!!!!!!!! !!HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My m8, cut a hole in the top of the 360 and has a fan sucking heat away.

It has never RROD'D.

On the subject of xmb, i don't it's bad either. Sure they could add some colour or more icon, kinda things,etc. But with HOME coming, i doubt that'll be happening.

[Pennywise]

Has anyone here complaining about XMB look heard about THEMES?

[MediaSpin360]

There cool sliding guide is now this laggy text box thing thats just gross. XMB kills it easily even if it does lag.

Im getting multiple errors just trying to download demos as well you STILL have to go through like 9 tabs to access the game demo page.

Dont know which interface is worse but im going back to the old one I guess. The install feature is a joke. I have a HDMI 20gb console and I installed 1 GAME, yes 1, and I dont have room for another one.. LMAO!!!! Welcome to next generation. The generation where you have to buy 20 consoles just to play games... Im on my 4th 360 what am I suppose to do upgrade to that over priced hard drive? Or buy a new console?

Oh and the avatar thing is just a lil ghetto and looks thrown together. City of Heroes character editor from about 5 years ago makes this look it was done by a child.

Little Big Planets intro was more amusing then this was any day!

[lociefer]

ok seriously , never had any trouble with this update , although i prefer my ps3 to my 360 , i really cant shake the feeling of pitty and concern for those who got bricked , i mean cmon , we spent like 300 bucks ( i got elite ) for a system thats not supposed to break , its not my fault that MS wanted to beat sony to the market , i just want a good machine that's worth what i paied for

[Pennywise]

Its not supposed to break, but it is known to break... so you should really do more research before buying a product. Just because in a perfect world a product shouldnt break does not mean it doesnt.

[PooEgg]

Everything breaks eventually. ; ) But I get that is sucks when something expensive breaks.

[ultimolu]

...I knew it!
Why Microsoft never fixed this issue is beyond me.

[Captain Tuttle]

You're a genius

[ultimolu]

Yeah, I know.

Comes with the description.

/sarcasm

I had a feeling something like this would happen. Microsoft should have dealt with this problem directly.

Let the disagrees pour in. I don't know how hard it is for 360 fans to accept the fact that this update had a good chance of bricking someone's console.

[elorm9]

Oh, but no... just had to give out warranties instead. Sucks if your warrenty expires :(

[Sparx_4_4_]

im happy to know but i want home tho nxe will do for now while ps3 is broken might play my mates 360 more

[plain rice]

You just had to mention it 5 times in this thread alone though huh?

[joevfx]

I never want to hear a complaint of PS3's Home being delayed again. Sony is smart by not rushign Home out. microsoft is not.

[_Q_]

Thats the same old stuff lol

[Surfman]

Ahahah where is PP

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

;-D

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Trolling with his new account apparently..

[pixelsword]

...where PP belongs.

[mcgrawgamer]

to pop up. Oh, well boys will be.....boys I guess.

the NXE is actually more effecienct supposedly than the old dash, but we'll see if this story get's any legs as the week progresses. I don't have much faith in this blog...I mean news source

And disagree all you want, but the Contributor searched the entire internetz to find this story, just look at his post history

[RememberThe357]

It got slammed by Xbox fanboys for being "fud". I wonder what they're saying now?

[ultimolu]

Do you want to know?
I'm pretty sure it'll be the same old, same old.

[ultimolu]

Wow...just wow. *shakes head*

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Pathetic isn't it.

[ultimolu]

It's unbelievable.

...
...
...

Well, at least I'm glad I didn't buy it.

[Boty]

You know what people I'm taken about right? If you don't I'm talking about the people who got suckered into buy such a unreliable console.

*THIS JUST IN*

Failure rate has gone up form 34% to 58%.

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

this is a bullshit article from the same people who gave gears of war 2 a 0. this is not a reputable site .

DNAgent, who "found" it on this website to bring here said this same exact comment a few days ago

1 - You know what else is free?
RRoD

please, you people are pathetic.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

You're terrible at spinning.You should take lessons from POG/MART

[ultimolu]

Keep spinnin' that news Tommy!
You'll be teh best spinmasta of them all.

[ApocalypseShadow]

mandatory installs on ps3?

or

mandatory RROD on 360?

hmmmmmm......which one?so hard to choose.let me think on it.

apocalypse................i'm joking people.had to do it at least once.i doubt it's widespread.

[elorm9]

Mandatory installs really aren't a big deal IMO.

[running rampid]

this story blew up fast. watch all the haters pour in.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Its not a hating thing.Its just shocking that MS has not still fixed this problem.

[Fobuo]

The reason why people call the Ps3 hardware failure(Yellow light of death isn't catchy)BS is because it happens very rarely.

The only reason why you hear about the 'YLOD' as you put it is because of the Internet;I've honestly never encountered a person with a broken Ps3,but have I encountered a person with a broken 360?Yeeup.

Short story;One time I was picking out a Ds game at GameStop and in comes this 40-something year old mother carrying a Box looking pissed off as hell.Her conversation with the store clerk went like this

her:Excuse me,but you sold me a (store clerk still has his back facing her),EXCUSE ME SIR,BUT YOU SOLD MY SON A BAD VIDEOGAME

store manager:i'm sorry m'aam what seems to be the problem?

her:My son came to your store about a week ago and bought an xbox for THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS,he switched it on this morning and it didn't work!!!

store clerk:do you have proof of purchase such as a receipt

(store manager looks at store clerk angrily,at this point,everyone in the store understands this woman is about to explode)

her:(opens up purse and digs in,all the while muttering curses under her breath)HERE!here's your goddamn proof of purchase(hands the guy what I assume is a receipt)

At this point,I slowly exit the store,because I KNOW for a fact that this moms kid is about to be told about 1-800-4MYXBOX,and thus,is about to kill someone in the store

[elorm9]

I really would've taped it on my cell phone and uploaded it to youtube

[Fobuo]

*forgot to add she walked into the store with her kid

[Fishy Fingers]

One story below: http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N... "Top 5 Ways to Successfully Defend The NXE"

Is that not just great timing? Revert back guys :/

[steve30x]

I downloaded a demo and it wont delete from the HDD. This NXE is bugged and needs fixing. I also have Live problems.

[mcgrawgamer]

but after I shut down and powered the box back on I was able to do it with no issues.

[Magic_The_Celt]

haha well at least youl be warm over the holidays with microsofts toaster360

[Stryfeno2]

Its funny how they the only site that is reporting this news...Anyway, back to my NXE party mode.

[Grimhammer00]

I've been trolling a few forums and guess what - this is not true.
I've read one sound issue on another N4G article discussion...that's it.

How can sooooo many fanbois complain about load times on the 360 and how the mandatory PS3 installs are awesome....they reduce pop-up, load times, and framerates are often improved...all these things PS3 lovers have spouted for over a year or more....and now 360 owners get a similar (and actually better feature...if only because WE HAVE A CHOICE...), suddenly...HDD installs suk balls.

Also, you hear tirelessly about the Wii Mii's rip-off Avatars.
Guess what...with that logic, we'd all be driving around in the same cars! It's called advancement...might not be your tastes, but it is a improvement over the Mii's. I personally don't like them - but I see the trees in the forest, we 360 owners are in for micro-transaction hell, and many will welcome it. Soul Calibur 4's accessory/clothes packs sell...not to me, it actually pissed me off....but many love to spend a $4 on trivial non-sense. Who knows - a Avatar toting a Lancer and Gears outfit might chage my mind! LOL

[Gue1]

-The problems aren't the installs, the problem is that the X360 uses proprietary HDD that are small but expensive... Now go and try to analyze this because I'm not wasting more time giving explanations.

"Also, you hear tirelessly about the Wii Mii's rip-off Avatars. "

-And again, the problem is not that they are similar, the problem is that they are the same damn sh1t!

[ForROME]

Its sad because in the end it all came down to a decesion in 2005, to ship or not to ship bad system knowingly, SHIP AWAY they SAID! had that decesion been different they would be more like 1% failure rates, sad sad sad .

[PimpHandHappy]

RROD happens when you turn the machine on 55% of the time

[pwnsause]

this is not shocking, this was expected.

[enigmaticheretic]

I have a Ps3 and i hope the ps3 fanboys know that IF Home starts doing the same thing as NXE is doing the Xbox fanboys are going to be all over like white on rice

[ultimolu]

But that will be expected. They were all over 2.4 so I wouldn't be surprised.

[Old Snake141]

I've looked into this New xbox Experience and I have to say that it does not seem to be that great. I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this but truthfully, this New xbox Experience is as big a system firmware update for the PlayStation 3 and if the xbox 360 can't even handle a small update like this then the xbox 360 is faulty hardware in my opinion. I got rid of this machine a long time ago and so far I don't regret it. This Red Ring of Death to me is like Herpes, its always coming back. As for Home, I can't wait. I'm sure when it comes out, its going to have problems....well server problems anyway but nothing like this.

[Bladestar]

mmm...how predictable... I was waiting for this article to come out concidering the fact that the write is being preparing it for at least 2 weeks now. Xbox 360 haters love these stories... and this is the first? strange I was expecting at least 20 during the first day.

[Tony600]

Finally those Xbox 360/Microsoft su***** got what they deserve!I am tired of all this gaming journalist who are against Sony!They want to destroy Sony but this wont never happen you su*****!Microsoft will never live up to Sony.forget it!The Xjoke 3beefe is a piece of trash in every sense.3 year this RROD problem,pathetic cunts!

[divideby0]

You know the MS company line....

"Failure rates are within industry standards"

LOL

[Tony600]

I feel a little bit sorry for the people who have this RROD problem.

[psiom]

RROD happens all the time no matter what, so of course people that get RROD right as they update will blame the update.

[Elginer]

2 Day's after having this NXE my 360 decided to die today, how nice. So after a year and a half of NO PROBLEMS what so ever now a couple of days after the update, my 360 bites the big one. How nice, MS should be slammed for this crap. I'm on my 3rd 360, screw them. That's it Sony just got a new customer. This retarded, and to all the 360 fanboys that blind, seriously the system has some crazy hardware problems!!

[pumpkinpunker]

The NXE hasn't been out for 2 days.

Try again. Or better yet create a new account and make up a new story without a glaring factual flaw in it. It is what all your Sony fanboy friends are doing. We can also view your previous post history ( http://n4g.com/NewsCom-2307... and one can only assume from your previous posts that you already own a PS3 so why are you saying "sony just got a new customer?"

Owned. If you're going to spread lies on the internets then don't be such a noob about it. That's what really disappoints me.

[DJ]

Today's just the official release. But as for Squall, I'm sorry to hear that dude. =[

[pumpkinpunker]

At least edit your fake post so it doesn't say "Sony just got a new customer." and you may want to make up a reason for how you were in the NXE beta for just 2 days before release considering everyone else who has been in the NXE beta was in it for weeks before release.

"squallsan - 6 days 9 hours ago
PM
Track
Ignore
7 - Sony has
some big games but they don't make them feel special. They need to yell from the rooftops about it. MS does this and hypes games like no other and they sell...a lot. Uncharted is an amazing game, and I enjoyed Folklore and yet still they sold poorly. I mean come on, Sony you have some amazing games but they don't sell because they don't put enuff hype behind them."

Every post in your history is about the PS3 except this one. You've been busted. Admit it. Have some semblance of self-respect and leave this comment section with your tail behind your legs and return to your mom's basement and play your PS3.

[Ldubbz]

You just got owned homes...that was one of the worst beatdowns I have seen in a while. You may have to change your screen name after that one...hahahaha

This crap right here just goes to prove my point...(comment #23)

[Bladestar]

that's how pathetic these fanboys are... they have to lie to try to stop people from buying a 360 and buy a PS3... lol! That's low..

[Obama]

They can still use the 360 as decorations on a Christmas tree, although I must admit it is one ugly decoration.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Indeed the RRoD would look good on an xbots tree

actualy better not it would burn the tree down

[Sniper_amer]

lawl @ burning the tree down

[Obama]

Wish the bots have a burning Merry Christmas!

[Lucreto]

It is sad that people machines are bricking and the like but I am sure it is for a minority. I feel sorry to the people affected except the ones who laughed when a small amount of PS3s bricked with the trophy update.

[pumpkinpunker]

If it makes you feel better. I haven't had any problems with the new update and no one I know has.

[Lucreto]

:)

[aggh im on fire]

I always dread updates. Ive had an xbox RROD on my because of one and my PS3 went down after the 2.5 update. Really sucks.

[dkgshiz]

Serves M$ right for making those Mii rip offs.

[Socomer 1979]

are you really surprised. This is M$ way of giving back to those hardcore xbox360 fans with expired warranties. I can't wait until the media brainwashes you again & you congratulate M$ for thier tactics to move new units.

Well done microsoft. Golf claps. Those suckas are writing to Santa as we speak. To those that said RROD has been
fixed. It is until it happens to you. I used to be a xbox360 only fan too. That was until I got the red ring plague& look at me now. I'm mii free! Thanks Sony !

[Bathyj]

What? Too soon?

[eddyo3991]

I thought the Xbox 360 was the GREATEST CONSOLE this generation.

[fossilfern]

lol this is a joke like why do people put up with this ? get a PC or get a PS3 i personally couldn't stand my 360 and also i had a PC and a PS3 so i got rid of it biggest waste of money ever MS can take their 360 and shove it up their hole

[Arsenal4Ever]

360 consoles are left 4 dead I see....

[Jotenks]

I was looking forward to putting the 360 on my list, but honestly this amount of failure rate is unacceptable. Even though my friend who has had one has had the machine only fail once while a few others have not had it fail at all. I just can't stand to be without a system in the amount of time it will take to ship it out to Microsoft for a fix or replacement.

Something like this should have been dealt with (the RRoD issue) from the get go.

[air1]

wow, what a fake as$ story for these sony fanatics to eat up.

dah well, back to my 360. look at that still works after nxe...

[GWAVE]

My condolences to 360 owners who are suffering through this. I'm not the biggest fan of M$, but I didn't think they'd mess up THIS bad. For those of you who aren't experiencing these problems, good luck and game on.

[Si-Pie]

Fortunately I havnt had any problems at all and everything is running great however I have 2 friends who have had problems. 1 of them has had the most problems as hes had 7 crashes already within a couple of hours! I wonder if most of the problems are on older "xenon" xboxes? just a thought which maybe wrong!

[djroberts]

Ok usually I'm all over MS for the RROD but in this case I suspect some BS. My guess is the same amount of people are getting the RROD and simply blaming NXE since it's the only thing that's changed and want to blame something.

[Ldubbz]

Im so tired of all of these 'journalists' that go around beating a drum every time someone has a problem with their 360. Even if 1000 people had some sort of problem today, if half of them posted something about it, then it would seem like its outta control. And the internet is ANONYMOUS...what anonymous people post shouldnt necessarily be taken at is word.

How do we know this isnt a bunch of spoilers out there making it all up? (look at the whole user score fiasco at metacritic for further proof) Or even people from Sony? (again, the whole Halo 3 wikipedia incident involving Sony employees). Im not accusing anyone of anything, quite the contrary, and thats my whole point. You really just dont know.

What I do know is my system updated in 3 minutes. Downloaded and installed in 3 minutes, with no problems. Do you know that? You only know what I am telling you, which may or may not be true. But I dont need to prove that to anyone really, because my system works fine, just like the vast majority of others. If the 360's problems were half as big as some would like u to believe, it wouldnt be the SW monster that is. Those numbers are the only relative proof there is to rely on, and they look good to me.

[HighDefinition]

I guess I shouldn`t have read your comment then.

[ben806]

mine is fine

[topblood]

you sony fanboys are bloody anime geeks.

if you want beef come to london. you lots are wasteman

[redsnake]

come on ps3 fanboys instead of attacking the 360 and stuff you should be original for once. i personal feel bad for all those people especually since many warranties are now expired.

[Ldubbz]

Its pretty sad really. When two football teams play each other, people get injured, right? Those teams may be competing, but everyone takes a knee. Everyone wants their 'team' to win, but not like that.

What makes that REALLY sad is some people really DO see Sony/MS as being on a team, and will do or say anything to bring the other team down, in order to make themselves feel better. Take a step back, and look at all the negativity and anger here...you dont lash out against something every chance you get unless youre trying to fill a void of some sort.

So if youre a 360 owner and your system is just fine, like Im sure 99% of yours are, let em vent. You got Gears 2 and Left 4 Dead to play...;)

If youre a PS3 owner shaking your head at such nonsense, go play R2 and LBP...;)

and if you own both, or all three...well f-you u bastard! I hate you get everything SOB's! ;)

[austere]

my new xbox arcade handled it fine. I played a game for 3 hours just a sec ago and the console it self actually feels cold to the touch. Very good since my launch xbox always felt like it was gonna set on fire when I played for only a little while.

[ReBurn]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of.

[ReBurn]

I updated and it seems to be OK. Last year's update bricked my 1st 360, but this seems to be working just fine.

[wicked]

I have updated all 3 of my xbox 360s and have had no problems.

[DOOMZ]

Man, the Sony fanboys are just coming outa the woodwork here, lol!

[Nikkelz]

This is the reason these wack @ss dudes dont respected,come on why talk about something that aint even true,3 of my cousins upgraded today and they all are benefiting from it,no lock ups,no freezing,nothin,let alone a f-ing RRoD,to the dudes who write,publish and republish these articles,yall need to leave the computer alone and dive head first into some pu**y,then you could actually be doing something productive with your lives instead of fanning a bull s**t flame war

to all my gamers(ps3,wii,and 360 gamers)who dont believe this b.s i wanna thank yall and i want to give yall a shout out and my traditional"peace and game on" nikkz

[Sniper_amer]

Microsoft always copys others, well this time it back fired at them with RROD, thought i heard that they fixed that problem??
and that we should never see it again??
then whats going on??
they pay company's for exclusive DLC "50 mil GTA DLC" and get that money back from ppl who buys their console by giving them bugged updates and w/e just to RROD the console, then u would have to waste ur time with thier support line, and u would have to pay for a fix, when will this end?
when will micro$oft stops this problem?

[air1]

sounds like you mad cause sony cant get there sh!t together with home.

funny micro took sony's ideas like you say, and still deliverd it first.. ouch!

wawawaa bu bu micro cheated they had to cut the price, they had to steal this and that.

[captainjy]

This has to be one of the dumbest, most un-thought-out post I have read to date. Let's see, I seem to remember Phony coming up with Trohpies, but that's not really copying, right? Oh wait, on the Bronze it says, "You", on the Silver it says, "Are", and on the Gold it says, "GAY!". Stop the BS. You know damn well that every company copies the next. Besides, this has nothing to do with this blatant lie that NXE is causing RRODs. Garbage.

[Erotic Sheep]

Air1, turn off your fanboy glasses. The NXE is NOTHING like Home, Microsoft attempted to offer the same as Sony is doing but as usual rushed the product out and make stupid people like you actually believe they came out first.
But I'm sure showing your new pink dress to your imaginary friends was worth it..

[Sniper_amer]

yea u know what???

let them copy others, then rush it out and break their system, nice!!!

than ppl will still buy these defective things and defend it, then when it breaks they will say, its ok, its meant to do that, Right??

xbots fanboys bleh.

[JackSchitt]

http://forums.xbox.com/2413...

[bviperz]

To add the proof, I was beginning to think no one would. Reading the comments are like reading a soap opera play out. Some cats get so dramatic....

[mirroredderorrim]

The flames are pretty high in here.

/shades

[GWAVE]

To those ignorant fanboys in here who keep claiming that this is BS:

Another article on this was just posted on N4G. Take a peek at the front page.

[OSIRUSSS]

The New Xbox Experience? Much like the old XBOX Experience. RRoD

[Bill Gates]

You STUPID BABOONS just DON'T get it do you?

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHHA HAHHAHHA

All the warranties are up too...AHAAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHHAAHA

Enjoy your NEW, but FAMILIAR experience you STUPID BABOONS.....AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAH

Heeeeeeeeere's............... RROOOOOOOOOODEATH....AHAAHAHAAH HAHA

[firetaw]

microsoft will have more sales this holiday season. thats the good news. not good news for your broken xbox, but good news in a general way for MS since it brings more money to MS.

shame on those fanboys whos xbox 360 broke down 3 or more times and bought a new one and supported the RROD issue and bowed down to it.

oh hail RROD we will buy a new one. Microsoft breaks sales records. previous owners buy's a second time an xbox 360. sales double within days.

i can just see it happend

[bviperz]

but true. But, you also have to take into account those who have invested a lot of money into their system have no choice but to buy another one. MS is always money first. Which is why I'm still on XP and let my live gold subscription expire.

[captainjy]

Lies! Have been reading TeamXbox all day and no reports of RROD. Propaganda for Phony and it's loser owners to spin because their console sucks ass.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

seriously

[ZILLA]

JUMP OUT............NOW!!P L A Y B 3 Y O N D waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaay B 3 Y O N D !!!

[captainjy]

Problem is the only thing to play on that clunker is Bluray and even that is about to go away...

[Knightofelemia]

Well if my system dies off to the garbage it goes I still have my Playstation to play and I won't be buying a new Xbox

[Figboy]

so hopefully it WON'T, as i'd be a very upset person.

just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist, or that it's somehow "less important," because you lucked out.

that's the problem with the world today, people are so quick to dismiss other people that they become apathetic to EVERYTHING.

the RROD IS a problem, whether it happens to you or not, and it's a problem that Microsoft needs to address.

if they don't, then there will be more and more class action lawsuits happening, affecting their business, and yes, their ability to bring you games in the future, which WILL affect you, whether you got the RROD or not.

you think the closing of Ensemble studios won't affect YOU, or that it wasn't done because of the massive amounts of cash they've been sinking into covering warranties for defective systems and securing exclusive DLC?

yeah, fat lot of good exclusive DLC is going to do you when your system breaks down.

so far, i've been lucky with my 360. that doesn't mean i don't hold my breath everytime i turn the damn thing on. that in itself bugs the hell out of me; i've never been afraid to turn on ANY of my consoles for fear that it will break. it's an absurd notion for a gamer to have to worry about, considering how much money we've paid and invested in our gaming systems.

i spent $600 on my PS3. it BETTER frigging work. that's all there is to it.

for those that spent upwards of $300 on their 360's, they BETTER frigging work as well. in this day and age, $300 is a lot of money, and they should get a working product. it's ridiculous that MS has gotten a free pass on this issue for THREE YEARS!!! WHAT?? and the RROD isn't the only issue the 360 has; the disc scratching and video card failures need to be addressed as well (my roommate had his 360's video card die on him; it wasn't covered by warranty, so he had to PAY to get it fixed).

[XBox RRoDed again]

I've got nothing.......(RRoD)

[pain777pas]

Our warranties are almost up too stupid M$ take my money you'll get no more from me on your next systems launch but may crack later on though.

[air1]

sony fanatics are getting very desperate.

nxe just sh!ted all over the ps3, but hey the ps3 has a 10 year life span im sure they will drum up something.

sony failed in 07 now in 08. lets see what happens in 09, kz2 is expected to move millions of consoles like lbp and r2 did lol..

[OSIRUSSS]

Let me guess Sony paid off the media to make up lies?

[CrizzleC24]

Guaranteed, I hope...Mine and my roommates both froze up. I bet they'll pour 30 billion into the new xbox. It'l be so good Nintendo will freeze up more!

Im pissed, but then again its not like I can play Perfect Dark,Gears of War,Halo or Command and Conquer on Ps3.

But for now Im buying Sims 2 for my other roommate's ps2.

[HighDefinition]

Bungie can make games for who ever they want since they`re NOT 1st party anymore, rumor is their working on a multiplat title.

GeoW/Epic on had a 2 game contract w/ the 360, that is over. Epic has stated multiple time the 360s "tapped" and they like working on the PS3. Rumor is GeoW3 could be a PS3 exclusive, I doubt it.....but maybe.

So, not to be a prick, but........I`m just sayin.

http://www.gamedaily.com/ar...

[CrizzleC24]

and prick you are aswell....

I recall people saying the ps2 was tapped'

then a little game called
Shadow of the Colossus came out about 5 years after the ps2 was released.

We've seen games that look on par with Doom 3 run on 120kb....

so lets keep the silly 1 dimensional comments to ourselves

[italianbreadman]

I Red Ringed while playing Too Human today. It also reset the power to every electronic device on that outlet.

Luckily, after leaving the console off for a minute or so, it turned back on as normal.

I've installed one game on the hard drive thus far and done nothing else.

[Dogswithguns]

That's messed up. I dont know what to say.

[tohuman]

have any of you ps3 fanboys considered how much time you waste flaming the 360 seriously get a life!
so what if 360 gets rrod it's their choice to buy the 360 they most likely new what they where getting into no need to keep talking about it.

[SprayandPreycom]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPEND TO ME my elite was working fine yesterday i do the upgrade and all of the suddon i cant get any connection with my lcd so going hysterical i try my old xbox and the update worked fine but now my hdmi elite wont connect to any freaking that i try omg omg omg I Tried calling xbox live INDIA and can you belive the dumb broad finally asked me do you have it hooked up to a TELEVISION and im like NOO BIATCH I HAVE IT HOOKED UP TO A TOASTER SO i hung up cuz they were no help at all aside from saying do you have all of the cables pushed all the way in seriously 0 help from xbox live customer servie BOMBAY at least my old xbox is running fine with it and the netflix is working good but the selection seems really crappy i cant get any new releases im stuck with some chick doing ab workouts das boot and revenge of shaolin master omg what about my poor elite NO TV IS REGISTERING IT ITS LIKE IT DOSENT EXIST WTF .... WTF WTF

[low_thepunisher]

*Red Ring*....FAIL!! CrapBox360 gamer: NOOOOO!!! hahaha

[SprayandPreycom]

i bought 4000 live points and the arcade is totally shut down also man this could take weeks please if anyone has any way or news on how to get my elite to be read by my lcd please drop me a dime ... PLEASE... its just sitting there all sad and quite
just to explain i did the update now the tv dosent read it or register it the screen just stays black like its not there i tried it on another hdmi tv and it dosent register it either the screen just stays blue the elite turns on and everything but it just dosent read it its totally creepy never had this happen to any system ive ever owned pls HELLP even the lady at xbox live customer service BOMBAY said try looking on the internet for tips man they were the worst help ...

[KarateExplosion]

Every time I think of getting a 360, news like this comes around. I guess PSwii is all I need. I just cant buy 2 xbox's.

[SprayandPreycom]

dude it sounds like you had a power outage i had that happen once the power went out red ring came on for like 5 seconds everything got turned off i waited like 10 min turned it back on and it was fine

[italianbreadman]

Yeah, I thought that could have been it, but the only things that were affected were on the same surge protector as the 360.

Other things in the room--on the same electrical circuit--remained on, no problem...

:-\

[GarandShooter]

Has anyone else noticed the dashboard takes considerably longer to load on start up?

Played Gears 2 online about 5 hours straight this afternoon without any issue.

[boJABER]

This sucks :(

[markbob]

Can we stop with the blogs. They normally, as the case is here, never have any proof and is just some fanboy trying to start a flame war.

I downloaded the update this morning and it works perfectly. I really enjoy the new setup

[squattingdog]

I actually reported this in n4g last week and when the news got hot, you booted out my story. Remember this? http://gamingconfidential.b...

Nice work, mods. Maybe next time you should do some actual work instead of approving all those losy-ass fanboy crap you have here. News for Lamers!

[Hiruu]

Gee, I feel spoiled, as I've had no RROD's and no real problems with my 360s in the pass. I upgrade to an elite, when they were launched, but I really can't udnerstand those with 5-6 broken consoles. Other than NXE having connection problems when I launched it this morning, I've not seen any problems 9which have been corected) My point is this...I can't relate to many of the gripes, and deep down, I suspect some are "stretching the truth" of what's going on with their consoles...if you modded ur darn console, it's hard for you to complain about anything.

[YonasJonas]

My system keeps freezing now, and I'm almost at the end of Fable 2. Is anyone else getting constant freezing issues? I'm going to try, and dl it to my hard drive to see if that works.

It looks really slick though besides the avatars, but it's totally worthless if it freezes my system up. It's a brand new system too.

[YonasJonas]

Just finished Fable 2, and I'm blown away. Great game that I wasn't expecting.

[gamfreak]

You know what, it time for the Xbots only owners to get a PS3 this christmas, stop being a fool.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

quickly created my mii and dabbled with the new blades and my system froze. If it bricks my system I have a 2 year warranty through best buy... I had 3 die on me until I just bought a arcade and threw my 20gig hd on it. I got HDMI on my new system so I felt it was worth it to just upgrade. If this one dies, best buy is going to get it and I will walk out with a new one. No problem to me. I own a PS3 and a Wii (in the box going on 5 months now) so if my 360 craps... Im still getting my game on. Just hope that 1 freeze is the only problem Im going do deal with in this new update!

[HardcoreGamer]

IM GLAD I READ THIS ARTICLE NOW I WONT HAVE TO DAMAGE MY 360

im goin to wait on my patch

[gamfreak]

I'm glad i don't own one... Enjoy your 3fixme while u can and i'm not trying to be an a**hol* you know, just a reminder.

[Ps_alm3k]

WHen you know a system gets rrod or about to get from news a week before, and you
Know a system failure rate already before hand and you still sale the system.
Not only that people blindly accept it and just buys it anyways.
What happen to quality???? Do your research...this is annoying get it right.

[squattingdog]

Mods, is there a double standard here?

[OSIRUSSS]

XBOX owners your time with the 360 is fleeting!!!

[Ps_alm3k]

would you own a system with that failure rate come on, ask yorself???

[dj_funky]

i laugh in the face of evil.. which is the red rings of death.

[kurochi]

I just updated my 360 to their NXE and it fxxking RROD'ed on me!! WTF??? This is the first time I've turned on my 360 in 4 months and it fxxking RROD on me? I was trying to play Gears 2 (as this is one of the only games I'd actually bought on the 360), now I've got to send it back in to get my 360 replaced. FXXK!!! It'll be 3 weeks before I get it back!!!
Luckily, I've got a PS3 also. At least I've got R2 to play with as I choose to go through R2 first. F'n MS, you see this big fat dxck in my pants?? It's going up your ass the next time you put out a new console!!!

[Rhythmattic]

There is only three guarantee's in Life.
Death, Taxes and RROD

[drdistracto707]

you sir deserve a bubble!

[Jeremy Gerard]

my system is working fine, even better than b4 the update, and I have not heard about anyone having problems anywhere else but this PS3 fanboy site.

[Raoh]

LOL

i remember when xbox 360 owners would chime that there are no RROD issues and everyone is exaggerating or blowing things out of proportion

and that was before the 3 year warranty extension LOL

why are 360 owners always in denial that their favorite console is susceptible to errors and problems.

yes i too have many friends with 360's that never had an issue aside from some noise etc.. and when i had my 360 i too never had an RROD

but man.. som 360 owners believe that if they didnt have an issue then every 360 didnt have an issue..

[Rhythmattic]

Did you not check the other links at the top of this Post ?

Here's Just one for you.

http://forums.xbox.com/2413...

You my sir are the fanboy. Deal with it.

EDIT: In Oz the Price for a 60G with 3 games has dropped to $399. I Almost bought it on Monday, But had to work out a way to sweet talk my women..... She wants a Wii..(Arrghh) It seems however , I'll put off purchasing the 360 for a while longer, Because these problems are not Fiction.

Gears 2 gonna have to wait.

[conswella]

Mine hasn't bricked. :)

[kyleg]

there is nothing wrong with the new up date it runs fine and smooth and i have not had one problem and i been playing from i downloaded the update to midnight so what the hell is this i never even had a problems.
they don't need to fix anything because it runs fine its just the older ones that have problems and its internet problems like it kicks you from the game and chat that is all that is xbox live right now so i say again there is no problem

[Neo604]

MS harsh juicing ur money by selling cheap quality $199 console that fail 3/10 people. to get the whole online gaming experience u have to spent another $100-$200 more for accessories. I wonder if they made thier xbox in China even though they talk sh1t bout product from China.

[Lumbo]

EVERY console is manufactured in china. Xbox, PS3 AND Wii ....

[Neo604]

viva la RROD.

[bviperz]

I think it can only be fixed by redesigning the hardware. But instead of offering to fix hardware for free, they just keep selling them, and banking on expired warranties to sell even more. That's just how MS rolls. Don't fix the problem (completely), keep selling until that money hole drys up, release something new. A software version of this story is Vista. June of 2009, Windows 7 will be released. Back in the day it was Widows ME. Again, it's just how they roll. Money is the bottom line.

[N-M-E]

People are always talking sh*t about the delay with Home for PS3. It's funny how Microsoft (a software company) continues to drop the ball and no one says anything....... F*ck You Fanboys

[shawnsl65]

hmm this reminds me of trying to install Warcraft 3 on a 75mhz computer.. BAM instant blue screen!

[ReubenSala]

Got mine in April, still no problem here, although the load times are bit slow between menus, but I don't care.

[YouNoob]

it would have happened to those boxes anyway, nothing to do with the update.

i for one am enjoying to play games from the harddrive on probably to most quiet console on earth, LOL!

[squattingdog]

So much for consistency with policies. I think you guys are just biased. Oh well. That's why this site never really took off. Look at this place. It's a damn orgy here. LOL!

[donnie-2105]

own ps3/xbox and the 360 is the best gaming platform for multi in my opinion.tie on exclusives.but the the hardware is utter pants compared with the sleek,quiet black ps3.saying that had mine 13months but the manefactorors date on back says november 2006(NO HDMI)even though i bought it new from a big retail store.it crashes now and then and when it plays gears2 the disc drive sounds like its gonna self desruct rrod twice but when i left it of for 5mins it came bk on and had no probs since.peace

[squattingdog]

but when the story got hot here, the mods took it down. way to go b4g mods.

http://gamingconfidential.b...

[jluth3]

and i am fine

[Kraken]

Is laugh. Forever.

[FAQS]

This just sounds pathetic! Now serious how is this possible? How someone just spend money in that pile of crap? What are the advantages of paying any price even if it is only 190 dollars (that for me is very expensive for a deffective machine) for this? Is that the games that any bot say they have, but the only exclusive game whorth now is Gears2 against the Goty MGS4, LBP and Resistance 2, Uncharted, Ratchet,GT5, Killzone 2? Are the multiplat games that some dumbass biased sites say they are better in xbox360, but in fact is all payed off bullsh#t (Fallout 3 is the most scandalous ones...I've have it and didn't experience any issue at all, and I'm being honest)?...
The aswer, and I must say that, is in the US...
The truth is Xbox360 is only popular in the US...We have just show here that Europe, japan and other countries are completly ignoring that machine! In my coutry Portugal, the PS3 is almost 80% of the next gen market, followed by the wii...and xbox360? well I really don't know any guy that own that!...
I'm sorry, like a gamer I am, for the guys who have these problems, but some of them they got warned for it, a lot...

[robotnik]

Stupid bots and their stupid ass console, be damned evil bots of hell! Burn in RROD!

You guys crack me up.

[J8M7G]

This is great for me as i fix 360s in my local area.
£ £
\_/ - Kerching!

Ps i'm no fanboy i own all 3.

[yeswecan84]

Dang, already lol

[yeswecan84]

Dang, already. (woops)

[felidae]

no problems here .. great update.

gamertag: schnodder

[cpuchess]

Seems to work just fine, no prolems at all

[MrEko]

Took less than 5 min to download- up and running with service that is better than ever- althought to RROD is a major problem with the XBOX360-I just dont see how in the world this simple, quick download would cause it.

[robotnik]

lmao

[peeps]

just hope it don't brick my console (for the second time) sicne i'm currently enjoying fallout 3 and gow2 :| last night when i was on i noticed the friends list freezes alot. hopefully not a sign of thigns 2 come :(

[zag]

MS will seem like it's great like it can do anything in the world gives heaps of stuff (with a cost) but MS always screws it's customers, always... it never fails to scew them.

How they become so big is quite a wonder.

Maybe IF IBM didn't sell them Dos maybe people would be dealing with IBM for products and guess what the Cell came from IBM, and look at the the few problems the cell has if any.

[Vip3r]

My PS3 warranty ran out when it died but I'm still getting a replacement because of my proof of pruchase.

But will that happen for the 360s?

[Amnesiac]

I only have one thing to say,

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAAHAH

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Downloaded mine. No problems at all. I see all the fanboys at full force in here. Nothing better else to do I guess.

[ElementX]

I haven't had problems. How come QJ.net is the only site with a RROD article?

[Rhythmattic]

Its Not. Check the other links at the head of this post .

[KRUSSIDULL]

The freind page on the NXE frezzes for me so i try to avoid it.

[arika]

hehehe...lol. i told you guys. to all those who have refurbished or modded xbox 360, don't update to nxe or play for long hours because your precious console will brick on you or it will have those dreaded rrod's. whatever it is you still lose.

the worst part of it all, no more warranty's. ouch!

[LiquifiedArt]

Its like We warn people of Microsoft's BS OVER n OVER n OVER, and all we get is... "XBOx is Da L33T" AHAHAHAHAHAh. I Love this. Continue to support this sketchy company buncha monkeys. You deserve what you get.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Now I see why you have only three bubbles. Fanboys get a real joy out of crap like this. But the fact still remain that people still play & purchase the 360 & their services.

[Terror2k9]

JEALOUSLY IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY! Its obvious sony fanboys this generation are from the darkside. I guess they believe this is the only way to help sony after home delays again till next year! I am waiting for home also but jeez this is sad no one had no issues with the new dash that i know this is way over blown ......stop the crap sony does not give you money idiots!

[getheledout]

I downloaded mine last night, and had no issues with slowdown, brickedge, or locking up. I made my little avatar dude, checked out some new stuff coming out for xbox, and then jumped into a game of COD 4. I didn't know if I was going to like it but the set-up was easy to install and easy to navigate. I also liked that there was plenty of information to get to. I think it's pretty cool. Way to go Microsoft. Lotta haters out there. Maybe all you haters have to much time on your hands, because your bored with your Ps3 games, I don't know. Anyway I have to get to work. Later

[BenzMoney]

My update was seemless - it took about 3 minutes, total. And I haven't had a single problem since then. The only thing I've noticed is that the friends list is occasionally slow to populate (because XBL was getting HAMMERED yesterday with everyone downloading the update and playing around with its features, all at once).

Remember with the old blades system where you'd sometimes open up your friends list and it would take a couple seconds to populate? Or you open up a gamercard and its not instant? Same thing now. If LIVE is getting hammered, its not unreasonable to expect some lag when viewing information it has to load.

All day yesterday xbox.com was struggling to meet demand. Gamercards weren't loading, etc. Same reason.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

It was very hard getting some info from Live. Of course you will have problems if you have millions downloading at the same time. But you cannot tell your typical Sony fanboy that.

[atomdooze]

I always hear negative but never experience them myself so I must call BS on this one again.

[rmedtx888]

I'm sure Microsoft will release a patch soon.

[getheledout]

What's up with people wanting to see other peoples systems fail. Karma's a b.... Why would you stand waiting by the door and want to see someone elses hard earned/spent money in this low economic time, fail. I now there is a problem with RROD but really, if you own a ps3, xbox 360, or a wii. I think everyone would agree that they just want to go home after a long day at school and/or work and enjoy their favorite game. What's wrong with that....just because the games are on different systems doesn't mean their not fun. Stop hating and do more playing

[RaxeK]

People's equipment is breaking and a majority of you pieces of $h1ts are cheering it on. Hope you realize how fvcking dumb you look to people who don't take sides because they're friggin video game systems.

[I Call 9MM]

And this is why you need to liquid cool those old 360's people, so they don't end up having a brain fart and melting down.

[madmonk42002]

RROD FTW!

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Not only does this happen ,also if you have only a 64MB card no HD,
Your screwed!!! you cannot login!!!
YOu have to spend 50 bucks to get a bigger memory card!!!!
Why do these idiots love Microsoft!!I have no Idea!!!
Im happy with my 320GB PS3 and free online game play!!
Thank you!!!

My 360 is just a cheap budget PC console for FPS games that's all!!!

Wake the F up People!!

[r1sh12]

i havent had any problems..but my xbox is only 1 year old

[typikal82]

I was hoping mine would brick so I could get a model with HDMI, no luck! It works fine. Can't say I like the NXE though.

[shanestables]

so i downloaded the nxe and got RRoD and hands down to microsoft they are replacing my machine free of charge, even without warranty as i lost my receipt! only bad thing is that it will take upto a month! which sucks as im so into GOW2 at the moment!

However when my PS3 was bricked when update 2.40 came out sony replaced my machine within a week! so i think sony are more ontop of things when it comes down to customer care.

I dont see my self as a fanboy as i have both machines but to me sony care more about there customers so they get my vote this generation!

[LeGenDx]

denial

GAHAHAH

[Ice2ms]

Tis not BS http://forums.xbox.com/2413...
Happened to 2 of my friends so far ... I think its contained to modded Xboxs though Im Not sure.

[LeGenDx]

i feel bad for them =[

[shysun]

That sucks! Some PSN updates have bricked PS3's too. I remember 360 owners bashing Sony because of it, well now it's your problem.

These things unfortunantly happen and I hope your consoles will be OK.

[Anon1974]

When the the 2.4 update had some issues, you could send it in or you could have just reset your machine and reformat your drive. You'd lose all your game saves and what-not, a pain in the ass to be sure, but you'd be up and running again with no trouble. The 360's rrod? Not quite as easily solved. 360 fanboys love to point to the 2.4 update and scream "Ooooooh! Looky, looky!" but it wasn't even close to being the same. They also love to dredge up PS2 problems from 8 years ago. That problem was solved by popping your cover off and tweaking a screw beside the laser. Again, a pain in the ass but believe me - sure beats the non-stop hassle my 360 has been for me. I'm on console 4 and MS has been a nightmare to deal with.

[Darkseider]

If the New Xbox Experience (NXE) causes the 360 to RRoD shouldn't it then be called the Old Xbox Experience or Same Xbox Experience?

[shanestables]

i laughed so much when i read that! bloody ingenious that is!

[PantherDST]

As a PS3 owner I have to laugh out loud about the never ending RROD problem. Frankly I’m not sure why MS has not addressed or fixed the problem.

But, as an avid gamer my sympathies go out to all those effected.

[loverboifreak]

oh well xbots dont worry u can still use ur 3fixme for indoor warming

[Sniper_amer]

LAWL!

[LittleDozer]

lol right under this article for me was an add for a 360 bundle.